Nobody escapes Yaldabaoth's prison.Remember, you're here forever.>B-b-but gnosis>B-b-but I won't go into the light>B-b-but I won't listen to any spirit guides or life reviewsLmfaoooooooooo, bro actually believes he can speak a password and leave, the archons are kekking their asses off at you as they forcibly throw your ass right back into the soul blender to be shitted out of your new mummies snatch in a new meat prison to suffer all over again. Nobodies coming to save you. Yaldabaoth mogs Sophia, the Monad, your higher self, whatever the fuck you want to name it is powerless to do shit against Yaldabaoth, so tell me, if they can't stop or interfere with or reason with or control or force Yaldabaoth to do anything, how isn't he God?>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I need muh escapism, if I learn about gnosis I'll be free! This HAS to have a good end because... BECAUSE IT JUST FUCKING HAS TO OKAY???Naive.This perfect prison has no end. Yaldabaoth doesn't fuck with us for loosh, he tortures us then reincarnates us then tortures us some more for the keks.>"umm, this famous guy totally escaped when he died"Proof? Source?Why on earth would you think that? Because he said whilst he was alive that you just had to learn about the reality of this place and that somehow frees you because...? Where is your fucking logic here?Like I said before, you think that way because your mind is trying to protect you from the reality of your situation by fantasizing about this good ending. We all desire a good ending, so we dream up all the fantasies about saviors, passwords to get out of the samsara matrix prison but these are all just wishful fantasies with no basis in reality. Evil reigns supreme here. Look around you. You're surrounded by evil. An evil system governs you. Evil people are the ones in power.No good deed goes unpunished.Those that play fair here don't get far whilst those that cheat and steal and take advantage of others rise to the top.
>>41492937Just do a 360 and walk away, it's that simple
I ....I will..I will.
>>41492937>Proof? Source?>YaldabaothNo self awareness
>>41493028I can prove with facts and logic and lived experience that we live in a place where evil rules. No matter what you say or do you cannot even try to argue for the existence of a loving creator without sounding retarded and without ignoring reality and replacing it for fantasy.That's why all religions are a thing. It's why we fantasize about a better world, saviors, way outs, it's why we try to reason with ourselves why things are the way they are. Case in point ->"Earth is just a school bro, we're the creator experiencing itself in different bodies bro... In a predominantly evil world for some reason"Yeah, our suicidal higher self just decided to make this world where all anybody can think about is how to fucking get out of here, when the savior is going to arrive, what it feels like to die to old age and disease and getting chopped up by subhuman cartels or being born with horrific deformities, bone cancers, you name it.Why would our 'higher selves' want to experience any of that shit? Where's the 'opt-out' button? Oh, you mean dying? The thing that is ingrained in our very DNA to avoid at all costs because the process of dying is just that horrific? Because that's not the 'opt-out' button I'd like. How about just saying "Yeah, I'm done here, get me out and let me experience somewhere nicer, this place is a fucking hell hole, why did I even create this shithole again? What is it I'm supposed to be learning? There isn't a single thing here that an omni-potent creator would need/want to learn.The only reason for this places existence is singular. It is created for the sole purpose of torture, and it is exceedingly proficient at just that. Our bodies are often marveled at by retards, claiming that they're wonderous machines....What's wonderous about them? We can't swim for shit, we can't fly, we can only hold our breath for a couple of minutes before we die, we can choke on a peanut and die instantly. Cut our leg and get infected, die.The body sucks
I didnt even know you were on the call originally bro. No need to flex some vaguepost. I unironically don't give a fuck about you. Let me play with the younguns. You're too old to be cute.
>>41492937Kid named Nobody
>>41492937Oh? What makes you say that?
fuck you deminigger
>>41492937Collective awareness mogs your nigger
>>41492937We are the product of the demiurge dreaming of itself. If we're on a path of spiritual becoming we then become a demigod. >It's a prison Hylic>It's nothing Psychic>It's a school Pneumatic
OP sounds nervousThe divine sparks will leave it's inevitableYou will starve and eat each other while your gay reality spirals down to entropy
Nobody has existed in every pantheon.
>>41493187>He says, flexing some vaguepost and ironically giving a shit enough to do solol go back to discord you fucking retards
>>41492937>Nobody escapes Yaldabaoth's prison.>Nobodies coming to save you.You're damn right
Maybe yer boy Yaldab ain't really all the hot shit we think he is. More like a fucking savage who was able to think of rocks and suns floating in space, and that's it. The rest is up to us to build. That demi ass nigger is dead, and. not even able to build anything anymore. We are the builders. God is dead. His dream world is like designed by some savage fucking kid who only plays with rocks in a sandbox. Total lack of taste for design. he's not even a geometrist nigga thats us who made up geometry. God is gay and dead.>>41494221
His ship is sinking, he doesn't know what to do, and all that's left is to survive by vampirizing the world until it collapses. He made this happen by sheer luck, or rather, bad luck; he has no control over anything. He's a fraud
>>41494278Exactly he left us to die on a rock, what sort of idiot does that. god is neither smart or good, just was a briefly powerful entity who crystalized part of a dream frequency. I do that in my sleep nigga. Literally. and better. Maybe I'll become a better demiurge, not like this asshole. You know, quantum, blackhole, something something.
I hope I finish a good amount of decent works before I am dead. It stresses me out.
>>41492937this is why getting cozy on the loosh farm is the way. daoism helps lots. i've made significant progresshttps://youtu.be/xOrm_P_tBdE
The monad does not come to save us because we *are* the Monad. And because we are the Monad, we are fully capable of saving ourselves. Gnosis is merely remembering who you are.Sorry Yaldy, but your tricks don't work on us.
You/we are the demiurge. If you want things to change you have to change your/our attitude.
>>41492937>reincarnates ushe throws them into a pit so he can feed on their suffering and live forever. He does not reincarnate souls you stupid jeet.
>>41492937There's no Demiurge
>multiverse>Not just multiple universes, but brimming with life>Billions of planets>Somehow, YHVH would have made all of these>Then place his religion just for jews
>>41492937>Nobody escapes Yaldabaoth's prison.
AAAAAAA DUOLINGO WONT STOP LAGGING AND GLITCHING IM NEVER GONNA GET GOOD AT PIANO
>>41492937Nigga it's a lot easier to just float around as a ghost and not be reincarnated than most Gnostics think, as for actually escaping, uh, IDK
>>41494586uh yeah that's itbut fuck it
>>41493155Fantasy is what you live in.Life is a game. Not anyone else's fault you choose to be a giant pussy and cry about the rules.Your understanding is base level.
>>41498047A game so boring that the majority of the world engages in escapism.It is your understand that is base level, not mine.To take the opinion that life is a game/school is the lowest level brainlet take there is.There's nothing to learn here, there's no game to be played, the human cannot fly, cannot breathe under water, is easily killed, needs to work mundane dead end jobs to survive, needs to eat, drink, shit, piss and breathe daily to maintain life. Chores chores chores. This whole existence is a chore. How come fantasy writers can conjure up more interesting worlds than this? Are fantasy writers and video game creators more adept at building worlds than the supposed god creator?There is nothing interesting going on in your life, which is why you're here, gloating on /x/ of all places.Even 'successful' people live the same boring mundane life as the rest of us, it's just the same shit but covered in glitter.
>>41492937>PrisonShut the fuck up retard
Archon here.to my beloved gnostic children, i shall allow you to take the easy way out, just to prove that not all of us are that bad, you just have to bow down and worship me.to do so i want you to repeat this tantric incantation of death: FamMals UrGerDon Van CephGal Van CephDrux VonDo so 3 times, then shed blood for mommy, it doesn't have to be much.All of this requires you to have a hightened kundalini, if its not, then your soul will experience the lowest vibrations of samsara for the next eon
>>41498092Why don't you go into "god's beautiful gift of creation" with nothing and see how it treats you hylic
>>41498078>so boring>so evilWhich is it?
>>41498110I do that once a year for a few days to about a week, on top of many other camping trips and portagesIt's comfy
>>41498112Neither of those are mutually exclusive.Slavery/bondage is both boring and evil.
Bro I wipe my balls with the demiurge, just putting light to this, I did a rather large ritual around the 9th and almost immediately followed we had one of the largest solar storms in a while. I have the demiurge but the balls
>>41498119>mutually exclusive>both boring and evilLol, you are mentally stunted.Much growing to do.
>>41498130Bro you can't even string a simple sentence together without fucking up, I doubt Yaldabaoth worries about you at all.And that's another thing. All these people saying they hate the demiurge, they did this and that to the demiurge, demiurge can't control me, yaddy yadda.You're here. You're still imprisoned, just like all the other people who wrote about this before you. You're writing about how you're free from behind the bars.Completely delusional.You're as pathetic and powerless as sophia and the monad. Not a single soul escapes Yaldabaoth's soul trap.
>>4149293710/10 now this is a fucking psyop.Stepped it the fuck up.Very nice.Certifiable Psykino. Still a psyop though.
>>41498108loooooshhhhhhttps://youtu.be/5dmSYCCiRNE
>>41498155I'm a god who logged into a shitty roblox serverI'll won't press replay when the game is over lol
This is your God. Whether you kneel or not in this incarnation is irrelevant, the result will still be the same.You're here forever.
>>41498182>Whether you kneel or not in this incarnation is irrelevantthat isn't true, actually. it is very relevant
>>41498182NDEs say otherwise :)you need consent
>>41498108Every psyop is one. The one psyop is every psyop. Nice soul garden. Ask yourselves.Where there must be ying and yang, light and dark, good and evil in equal balance.If you want to maximise Good soul yield or positive spirit gain or whatever you call it.Do you make the world 50/50 good and evil?Or do you make the world 99% good and 1% pure unadulterated capeshit super villain evil in order to balance it out?Now the majority of your garden is being tested and grown to be good. Good exists. God is all. God is good.
>>41498179Why don't you log off now? Why wait for 'the game to end' if you're so confident?Where are your godly powers right now? If you're god why are you bound so tightly by Yaldabaoth? Use your 'god' powers to break free now, if you can.You can't though lmao, you know you can't. You're at the mercy of the real God.>>41498196NDE's show people getting dragged into the light against their will and being forced back into their bodies lmfao.There is no escape. This whole consent thing is the biggest cope of all time.Tell your jailer here that you don't consent to being in prison, see how far that gets you. It's an escapism fantasy that your mind has conjured up to cope with your bleak and hopeless situation.
>>41498212I can log off if I want. This is my playthrough after all. Suicide is generally too loosh charged. Middle path bro.
AAAAAA STOP TORTURING ME, FLYING CHILD OF SATAN!!!
>>41498212And you say this why?Trying to earn good boy points? You don't understand.Let's say we can't escape...What's the solution for reaching heaven?Make our prison heaven, be kind and good to your fellow inmates. Understand we're all equal in this prison. It's that simple.
>>41492937now who would want to convince me of le prison? cope harder your reign is done.In the name of the Father, the Son and the holy Ghost amen.
>>41498212I was going to make a long explanation I'm really tired. There is no prison with 100% control. Ponder on this image in the meantime
NOOOO THESE HORRIBLE CREATURES ONLY EXIST TO TORTURE ME WAAAAAAA
The true rituals of christ.The true words of christ.Are action. Spreading action.Everyone who does good and spreads good is doing the rituals and spreading the word of christ.They don't even need to know who christ is or his name or what he looks like.Christ is good and by doing good you're working in christs name and doing his work.True christ can't be perverted because it's simply the act of doing good and just like not being a demon lol lmao.
>>41498243https://youtu.be/n6fFru0byAI
>>41498170>loooooshhhhhthe more the merrier, yumhttps://youtu.be/WY4Llz4VXKM>>41498199>God is good.One God's good is another God's wrath
>>41498228How convenient! >>41498233No, it's you who doesn't understand.If there is no outside force that can stop Yaldabaoth then by every definition of the world Yaldabaoth is God. His will is free, he can't be influenced by any outside force, he is omnipotent, he can do as he likes. >>41498258>I helped some homeless guy eat for the day, I'm sure this will totally counterbalance the elites raping, torturing and consuming kids in this evil ruled torture world.>>41498243>>41498230Nice creatures. The gray squirrel which killed off and has almost made the red squirrel in the UK extinct.How naive, you post a picture of some nice looking animals and think that's all there is to them? They're in the food chain. They exist to be torn to shreds and consumed alive. Here, have a sobering slice of reality to wake yourself the fuck up from the stupor you're so evidently still in.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSpdaOuQ7-8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovOBTu38xcQ
>>41498294for surehttps://youtu.be/zBGH9iOdxss
omg nature is so beautiful!
>>41498300we are above that and can both acknowledge the good in those animals and the bad and rise above it if we choosethere probably is good in yaldabaoth then because he allows good to exist and walk the earth and be observed and experienced >>41498294if it's as you say and yaldabaoth's good is the opposite of another good then he needs that opposite good to exist for his good to also existno light without darknessand if yaldabaoth is everything as a god then he is also both types of good
>>41498324cherry picked.psyop.
>>41498331>>41498047it's a sandbox then.play however you want i guess.
>>41498288That mf got some fat tits
>>41498336>Could you can alreadySaar do not redeem the gnosticismFigures the hylic demiurge puppet is a jeet ESL lol
>>41498340>play however you want i guess.You can't though.In a sandbox you don't need to work all your life away to be able to own a house.All the land is owned. You can have a tiny slice for the small fee of working all your life for just a measly crumb now that you're old and your prime is behind you.The rules are already established. You break them, you go jail which accomplishes the same thing as working a job, you watch your life tick away.Terraria is a better sandbox than reality.There's no magic here. Only slavery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBZJM5v4KB8
>>41498315https://youtu.be/70gvzjU6p9c>>41498327>and if yaldabaoth is everything as a god then he is also both types of goodand he is the most dreadful thing you can encounter as well, for you begin to appreciate him after the fact of meeting him, not during the process.coming in with false expectations would be burdensome on your relationship with him, so i would advice against such strong idealizations of infinite goodness, or you will be let down or shocked.if i am to give an advice, it is to learn to fear him
>>41498300And the synthesis to our thesis and antithesis is?
>>41492937True. You can only die, maybe.
>>41498358i just had to, he's such a chonker>>41498389https://youtu.be/IFcdxnkx13c
>>41498300I just posted pictures of animals, it's you who said they're nice. I appreciate you patronising me on the reality of predation. Have you ever fed wild animals to alleviate their suffering? Do you know why suffering exists? At this point in the thread, do you still believe in the perspectives of the OP or are you just trying to anonymously save face, or are you just pretending to be retarded?
>>41498182I met the demiurge recently. He commanded me to kneel upon his arrival, and would not address me until I submitted. His power is overwhelming and all-consuming. Nothing else felt as real as this. We will all submit. Once you have felt His presence you will know the truth, and the futility of escape.
>>41498390>>41498416The same as it's always been. Misery.There is no higher divine purpose for this existence, that's cope.This is happening because god enjoys watching us suffer.This isn't learning, it isn't a school, it isn't a place we chose to come visit because it looks neat, it's just a cold hard calculated misery pit of which there is no way out.Gnostics were right about the demiurge but then they applied their own cope to it.>"We can escape if we achieve... le gnosis!"Nope, not at all true, there is no escape.>"Le demiurge is... weak!"Yet you're still here. You're all still here. Incapable of leaving. Why might that be, I wonder?>"AAAAIIIEEEE SOPHIA SAVE ME!">"Uhh, Sophia and the Monad are leagues stronger than the Yaldabaoth, he is nothing compared to them, they are pure good and evil cannot win vs good! (despite the contrary being true in all instances of history btw, evil literally always triumphs over good)Sophia and the Monad are much stronger and pure good, yet they literally cannot do a fucking thing to Yaldabaoth. Can't lay a finger on him, can't stop him, can't rescue anyone, nothing.>"We have to... le rescue ourselves!"And how do you do that? Why aren't you doing it now?>"Uhh... we can only do it when we die... because... BECAUSE WE JUST CAN OKAY???"Lol.Lmao.
>>41498437you are correct. if one wants to get by, one must adapt to the loosh farm. comfort is achievable, after much trauma>shuffled to this videohttps://youtu.be/O9sxGCTvlLU
Good guys always win is a fantasy trope that became so prevalent and mainstream as the ultimate coping mechanism dreamt up by people to escape the reality of their situation. Reality shows us that evil always wins. Good winning is fantasy. Nothing more.
>>41498455Just be eviler than evil. EZ.
>>41498460I mean that is literally the way of the world so you're not wrong.The evilest people are literally the ones in power now. If you want to ascend the pyramid you must adopt a mindset of evil. Evil is strength, good is weakness. If that sounds backwards to say it's because you've been brainwashed to believe the opposite, which most the world has been. After all, good always prevails in fantasy.
>>41498468The schizo pyramid reveals all.
>>41498437Only misery? Only suffering? Only a cold hard calculated misery pit?Nothing is hidden if you care to look. Whatever you're looking for, you'll find it.If you're looking for evil, you'll find it. If you're looking for misery, you'll find it. But even you had to admit, consciously or not, there are some things "nice", in your own words."The Demiurge" is a creation of your mind, in that you attribute a structure and form of creation (misery pit) on that word. It might be true at a certain level of understanding, but it's clearly not the whole story. You defeated yourself by admitting a bird is nice.If I was arguing your position I would simply ask "why does india exist"? And post some webms of shit eating and demon worship.
>>41498437>This is happening because god enjoys watching us suffer.That is a vast oversimplification. And logically that is clearly not true. If the sole purpose was to farm human suffering there would be way more effective ways to maximize yield. We are given a certain level of autonomy and freedom to roam the prison grounds, so to speak. It's not so much a "school" as a crucible that refines spirit with fire.
>>41492937True, this world is harsh and cruel, and, like every work of art, a reflection of its creator.Although I am deeply faithful, I have never seen God as a benevolent one.Even so, He is worthy of worship as our father and the god-king of this world.>Evil reigns supreme hereThat is where you are wrong. Good and evil are just our opinions and not cosmic forces. Thus there is also no monad/idea of good.
>>41498479>But even you had to admit, consciously or not, there are some things "nice", in your own words.I've never denied the existence of good, I've been referencing it all thread. I'm saying evil reigns over good here.Good is used as a means to an end. It's why it's sprinkled around, it's why it's used so effectively as a carrot on the stick to us all. Someone with hope for better times is much more delectable a victim for torture than somebody who experiences torture nonstop. Good and evil are backdrops for each other, but evil is much more prevalent in reality.>If I was arguing your position I would simply ask "why does india exist"? But we do all wonder why india exists and my only theory is it exists so their subhuman people can spread and destroy the things I do actually love in the world. Indians flooding europe and japan, nowhere is safe from them. They're a scourge and that's why they were created. Another misery maker.>>41498482>It's not so much a "school" as a crucible that refines spirit with fireYou're still saying it's a school but you're trying to get around saying that by rephrasing it. You still mean school.We aren't learning anything here. You've adopted that mindset because you have convinced yourself that there HAS to be a good ending to this story. Trauma has done a number on you and colored your perception.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhaTi7gD5-A&list=RDmhaTi7gD5-A&start_radio=1Look and you'll seeThat a new day will bringThe will to go on and fightThrough ENDLESS sufferingFor all who believe wait a crown, A ring of power of the man who would be kingTHE POWER OF THE MAN WHO WOULD BE K I N G.
>>41498518I respectfully disagree with your outlook despite admittedly having the same beliefs in the past. Ultimately, good and evil are subjective, and replacing these terms with positive and negative means they must be balanced. As for India existing, holy kek, it must a the representation of infinity and the scope of possibility for human life. Or perhaps India exists for you to be a little more grateful for what you have, not just in the material sense of having running water and sewage infrastructure, but the immaterial sense: to be able to question not just your surroundings but the fabric of reality itself.As for "prison", "school", "crucible", are these not matters of perspective and subject to free choice?
>>41498518>We aren't learning anything hereBecause we don't learn, we become. Take the panoramic view. You've already ascended to the top of the food chain. What were you before? The same hierarchy exists (however brutal) on the level of spirit where the demiurge sits atop His throne.This comes directly from my own encounter Yaldabaoth btw, nothing to do with trauma.
>>41492937Let's, for a second, presume that this has even a modicum of potential. There is divine law that is being overlooked here, stating that there must be a reasonable way to escape any system or trap. You cannot make the Escape inconceivable or impractical, such as putting a key in another dimension. Many have escaped
>>41498580Let's iterate on this a little bit, because I think you're thinking a little bit too small here. We're talking about the infinitely replicating scale, after all.By sheer probability and statistics, excluding any kind of Divine Law that would change how reality works, no matter how perfectly you engineer a system, trap, or other such mechanism hyphen there will always be an escape route. Intentional or not, this absolute cannot be ignored or overlooked. This realm, by its very design, will never be truly perfect. There will always be at least 1 detail, factor, that cannot be accounted for.
>>41498580>You cannot make the Escape inconceivable or impractical, such as putting a key in another dimension. Why not? Says who? Endlessness and dimensions... Yaldabaoth distorts and controls both these laws. >Many have escapedProof? Snake oil salesmen selling you on the idea that you just need to perform a series of actions after death in their books they're writing whilst still firmly and securely behind the bars of their cell are hardly convincing.
>>41498619https://youtu.be/BnLiDgWkCJY
>>41498619>>41498580Why would you even want to escape? Yaldabaoth created us in his sacred image and breathed the power to strive and fight in our soul. What more could you ask for?>In this arid wilderness of steel and stone I raise up my voice that you may hear. To the East and to the West I beckon. To the North and to the South I show a sign proclaiming: Death to the weakling, wealth to the strong.
>>41498635People always ask why there are nice things here if this isn't hell. It's because if the pain was constant you would eventually get used to it like chronic pain. The suffering is much more rich when you get small moments of respite to balance it out. Highs and lows.
>>41498389so what fear and praise him?love and hate him?what even is christcuckery if not one of his designs?i'm going to be real with you i'm too confused to feel either waybut if he likes fear i've always had fear i'm a pretty fearful person always staying up at night never getting enough sleep due to fear, anxiety, depressionright now i'm just confused more than anything
do they ever just login and like play the game?no hacks no admin permsjust like random role, random name, random avatar, spawn in, play a round?
>>41498437>Yet you're still here. You're all still here. Incapable of leaving. Why might that be, I wonder?Everybody who could have left already left? Seems rather obvious really. We are the retards that couldnt make it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXQL9bHdx_0&list=RDHXQL9bHdx_0&start_radio=1
>>41498711Can I tell you a secret?They didn't leave; they didn't make it.They died and were recycled. Many such cases.
>>41498518what if what we are told and shown aren't real?what if the suffering all around the world you speak of is greatly exaggerated? that makes the good i see and experience around me the majority if the 6 million was fake what other atrocities were fake? i've lived a blessed life in a blessed land that has it's issues and it's share of horrible things but the good around me out ways the suffering mostly i don't know if the harsh cruel world is really as bad as depicted or maybe it's even worsei don't knowbut i know good exists and i know what it looks like
>>41498652Then the converse is true. More struggle means more pleasure. That's kind of fucked up lol
>>41498652a good show works better when there's drama>>41498779the farm is a funny placehttps://youtu.be/zR1F9e4NYz0
>>41492937Op, I was a full atheist about 20 years ago. It was more than obvious that the god of the stories I was told wasn't real. Yet I couldn't reconcile the creation of the world and my own awareness with the principles of atheism. So I had an insight. God exists, but there is so much suffering in the world that it's impossible to deny that an omnipotent god that allows evil is also evil himself. But that's not where the story ends. Keep on digging.
>>41498779In theory if this place was balanced it would. But this place seems to be obviously weighed to one side of that spectrum with pleasure being a very useful distraction carrot.
AtlasWasAFuckingPussyGaltIsABitchIt's Cardio Day FuckersWe are training past the deltaDon't hold anything back for the return trip, it's one way only entry into the hole of doom this time I am afraid Sam...When I was just a lad, you knowI met a gal from ole' BordeauxShe had blonde hair, and blue eyes tooShe let me ride on the ring dang dooThe ring dang doo, now what is that?It's soft and round, like a pussycatGot a hole in the middle, and it's split in twoAnd that's what ya call the ring dang dooShe took me down into her cellarSaid that I was a mighty fine fellerFed me wine and whiskey tooLet me ride on the ring dang dooHer father come in, and angrily said"Now you have lost your maiden head!Pack your bags, and coat tags tooMake your living off a ring dang dooShe went off to be a whoreHung this sign upon her door"A dollar for each, and three for twoTo take a crack at my ring dang doo"The ring dang doo, now what is that?It's soft and round, like a pussycatGot a hole in the middle, and it's split in twoAnd that's what ya call the ring dang doo
>>41498902To measure is to know, so I must ask, how have you measured each side?
>>41498921Experience. The pure perfect peaceful serenity I've only tasted a few brief moments in my life like finding a stray campfire in a wasteland, warming but like a fire only lasts so long. I know it exists and that there's more beyond that but I haven't quite figured out being there yet. In contrast the darkest depths of experience I've felt and seen much more in those around me in how this world breaks people. Seems to me the only two options are to transcend that or find a way out of this maze.
Nice try ARCHONS, but I know evil always loses in the end, CHRIST will save me from the demiurge, granting me eternal life in heaven!
>>41498951Where does serenity exist? Is it in your room? Or "somewhere" else?
>>41499161I get where you're going with this. External conditions can induce it but it's internal of course. You just gotta find it inside right? Regardless there will always be things that exist externally to us that will at the very least attempt to influence us. The question is how do you attain that internal invulnerability right? Will detachment be enough? It's certainly easier said than done, you have to at least put on the mask of caring somewhat if you want to function in modern society. Or do you discard feelings altogether and suffer a fate worse than death?
>>41492937SAVE ME NOBODY i'm GOING CRAZY AGHHGAAAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V8BuxTESAk
>>41498117If you actually went with nothing, you would starve. Unless youre willing and able to cause suffering another creature by killing it and stealing its energy. All part of God's beautiful perfect system.
>>41499385That's the catch there isn't it? If you abstain you'll die but that death will ripple through those that care about you and cause them suffering as well. It's an amazingly designed system that no matter how you participate (or attempt not to) you'll always feed into it somehow.
The Demiurge's time is short, this lashing out of an OP is proof. It's alright, it's always been alright. All will return to The One true creator, including Yaldabaoth. You've already been forgiven.
Monkey mind, classifying what it doesn’t understand as “other”. Demiurge is your mind creating a false imperfect reality around itself based on incorrect and ignorant deductions and conditions. The demiurge does not understand who it is or where it comes from does not grasp the workings of true reality so it creates a reality that is imperfect around it self. The demiurge is not an entity but ancient allegorical occult code speak that represents man’s imperfect perception. The demiurge is defeated by correcting your perception.Anyone who studies ancient works knows they never reveal things outright. Admitting to a being like the demiurge is not how they operated. It was always symbolic. Just like every single other thing they wrote.
>>41493376He is a poo that worships evil and probably has a huge BBC folder next to his BWC folder. Hindus are really funny but legit insane too, along with dunning Kruger.
>>41499514>The demiurge is defeated by correcting your perception.And you do that how exactly?
>>41498233>Understand we're all equal in this prison.nah some guys got access to IP addresses>whoever hiroshimoot taps the server toothat is not equality and you know it. Also hackers can paste a link here that grabs your IP address. Equality is a dream in cyber space because it means no need for cyber security. If people were equal no one would be desperate enough to steal from another, unless they were equally desperate. Which is exactly what has happened. Hackers that use their skill for criminal activity usually do so out of necessity. They should be disciplined but not punished.>mentor the kid, teach him a few things and learn from him.CS just works that way cause there is sooooo much to know. A script kiddie has something to teach you because he knows a new system you don't. Only reason you are trying to is to cope with something. Maybe spying is not as ethical as previously thought?Bezos tracks every click, he wants to know EVERYTHING about your shopping habbits. Before this was done online shoppers were studied and stores were designed for you to enter on the right and leave on the left, that way you are more likely to circle the entire store.Oh well I say, where is that poo sucking on the demiurge's dick at? You have access to his records, you can find out what kind of porn he watches.
>>41499540You simply “‘intend” to do so with utmost sincerity. After your intention is accepted and sincerity acknowledged, you will be brought to correctness naturally. From there everything you say think do and feel will be for the goal of liberation. Though it may not always seem that way. Intend to do so and trust yourself. That is all that is needed. The details will work themselves out. I can’t say more than that because the path to liberation is unique and different for each individual. Good luck
>>41498754>saars you do not go to the fire, a worse fate awaits you. You will be reincarnated as one of us saars.lmfao, i'd kms and try to re-roll as a white or jew instead of trying to demoralize whites. Poor jeet does not know zee java and is reliant on the desperation and ignorance of companies. Thanks for letting me know how dogshit my non-competitors are.
>>41492937Fuck off you foul demoralizing kike rat. You jews are the demiurge's servants as is well known. You will burn with him.
>>41498754You are jewish.>>41499622Shut the fuck up juden vermin.
>>41499622Sorry, meant for >>41498665
>>41499642>>41499648This is all the average christian can do. Literally spiritually dead and wholly unlikable. You can talk to a christian for years and not once will any actual words of wisdom come from their lips because they have none to give, they've been fed bullshit which they've happily gobbled down and then regurgitate to others.Virtue signaling faggots who love hell and can't wait for any opportunity to tell people how giddy they to imagine them being sent there.Fuck outta here, retard.
>>41492937Slave mentality. You're the perfect little battery, arent you?
>>41499677You are every bit as much a slave lmao. Regardless of if you admit it or not.The difference between you and I is that I understand reality and am able to confront it head on.You deny reality and hide from the truth like a coward.
>>41499671No, you fuck outta here, juden/pajeet. I spit on you and your bitchass faggot Yaldabaoth.
>>41499694So are you a kike or a pajeet? Either way, you are subhuman faggot, just like Yaldabaoth.
>>41499700>>41499704>I spit on you and your bitchass faggot Yaldabaoth.And yet you're still here trapped as his slave.Bro really thinks his melty is going to change his situation lmaooooNo different than libshits sperging out and screeching in the streets about something trump did.>So are you a kike or a pajeet?I'm neither a shitskin nor a kike. What's your next move, chief? Lemmi guess, I just have to put myself into your low IQ creatura mindset. Here we go...Yeah, that's it. Got it. I predict you'll continue to call me one of those anyway.
>>41492937Cool. I'll just stay here and start a sex cult thenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpKHPNghNY4
>>41499735Sex is literally all this place is good for.
>>41499719I'm done wasting my time with a foul shitskin. You're retarded satanist and noghing more, unworthy of my time. When i meet Yaldabaoth i'm going to anally rape him and make him suck me off like the good little slut he is, just to spite you little kike rat.
>>41499741Okay retard, good luck with that :)
>>41499740The absolute cosmic Irony I got none while here. The most glorious of material dimension jokes.
>>41499740Oh, boy. Here I go sexmaxxing.
>>41499749yor not alone brother
>>41499749Ask daddy yaldabaoth to bring a nice healthy bitch into your life to smash on the regular.
>>41499761I'm just gonna chill and focus on my health, I will be nice and kind to women though.
>>41499744Yes, i will anally rape Yaldy and force him to guzzle my semen, as i said. Good to see you agree.Don't bother replying, juden rat.
Gods deities demons aliens and other paranormal creatures and paranormal agents don't actually post on this website do they? For some reason I can't imagine them having access to a computer and knowing how to use it and then engaging in conversation here let alone making a thread.
>>41499781You won't do shit because there's nothing you can do. Kick, thrash, screech and sperg out about it all you want, your impotent rage ain't changing shit.
>>41499761Yaldabaoth isn't into women, he enjoys crossdressing and having his prostate smashed. Not that he'd ever admit it, but it's true.
>>41499791Don't worry, gods, demons, aliens and other paranormal creatures can't get past the captcha. We're safe here.
>>41499804They don't even exist, it's all make believe bullshit. But we all need some fantasy now and then.
>>41499797I heartily kekked at this, ngl.
How would you hide the true nature of something when the true nature has to be visible and accessible at all times? >>41499804Maybe the thing at the front and the thing right at the back are the same thing? Everything in between is a test.
>>41494093are we the demiurge?
you guys are weird
>>41492937He a pretty good boss if you try to do the right thing mabye stop eating cats and dogs idk get an Xbox 360 to
>>41499953what is the right thing by him?
>>41499824Probably not. A huge percentage of the world hate theor job and government. Why haven't they just disappeared
A bunch of loons, you lot. You'd rather start wars and starve nations then to normalize women mating with shorties.You're good for a chuckle, let me tell ya.
>>41500109>than* to normalize women mating with shorties. *FixedI know how this virus works. You petty bitches.
>>41499735It has to be awesome to convince to make more loosh cattle
>>41492937The demiurge has no real power over you, the prison is only enforced by the beliefs of the detainees.
>>41500109you look so fwuffy wuffy can i cuddle you?
>>41500109i think you did a pretty good job on this soul garden the crew did a pretty good job too in hindsight it's a fantastic trick to make the actual main characters "the cattle" and make the crew the "main characters" brilliant game design
>>41498092total brainlet cope
>>41498518>Good and evil are backdrops for each other, I agree as well, the only reason we see something as "evil" is because we saw something as "good" and vice versa, now you could argue this doesn't mean that good wins and the fact there's any evil at all means that evil is the base reality.> but evil is much more prevalent in reality.if you look at every day reality what is truly going on you would find much more thriving than suffering because that is simply the law of the universe those that cannot thrive perish and pain is only an evolutionary response to avoid critical damage, thus most of life, if you were to randomly focus on any one moment and place, would find that generally things are either good or peace full, you will find rabbits falling asleep and birds singing and humans going about their routines (although due to capitalism this is much sadder than what goes on in nature), you will find an owl sleeping in its burrow and squirrels cuddling with each other inside a bird house. The base state of reality is equilbirium that is why the pendulum always ends up stopping no matter how violently it is pushed and the pond always returns to stillness after a stone disturbs its waters. It seems then that peace and good is primary with evil only secondary and primarily caused by being fooled into believing that this is not the natural state of the world.
>>41492937Gnosticsisters... It's time to let the spark fade
>>41499356You don't discard feeling, you do the opposite you follow the good feeling that is prevalent in your heart even at the worst of moments. When you still your mind and body it is even easier to see that you are made of multitudes and serenity lives within you as much as fear, but serenity, being the primary state of the universe is much stronger and wins over fear any time you hold both.
>>41499813>picrelThis is so deep. This meme set me on a different course as a person.
>>41492937Stop spreading false gods as the Most-High you ill-informed cretin. Eloah is not Yaldabaoth. Its not conceivable how individuals can believe in an omnipotent being that also "doesn't know" where a spirit came from. The constant contradictions of your dogmatic practices are never-ending.Honestly its fools like you that prevent higher minds from engaging. God.
>>41502681you kiss boys because they're scary. i kiss boys because they're hotwe are not the samehttps://youtu.be/W4_wNaqF0uU
>>41492937all i know is that anybody who uses "whilst" unironically on 4thchin is a faggot so you are clearly wrong and i will do the opposite of what you say
>>41492937So they'll free me if I just stop suffering?
>>41498882CONTINUE PLEASE...
>>41492937thats not really how this works, gnosticism is a metaphor for how trying to understand new information (unknown) with your brain (wisdom/sophia) creates a corruption in your mind because you cant fully understand things so you misunderstand the new information and create something called ignorance (demiurge) which causes your suffering, only through more wisdom/sohpia can your ignorance be lifted and for you to escape from the realm of suffering.but even if it was literally real then you would just be an archon trying to demoralize so id simply ignore you and go back to gnosis.
>>41499385The food you eat doesn't materialize in the grocery store retard>>41502618Only a joyless pseudo-intellectual faggot could look outside at sunset and think we're in a prison
>>41502739T-that's not what I said.
>>41503156fair enough, i just couldn't resist an excuse to talk about kissing boys ohohohohttps://youtu.be/mPRy1B4t5YA
>>41492937Escape? I'm here to molest Archons.
>>41503133>The food you eat doesn't materialize in the grocery store retardYeah no fucking shit, einstein
>>41504710...So you agree the nonsense about >hurr you have to cause suffering to some poor heckin fisherino by killing it and stealing its energyis retarded then? Good talk
>>41504750No dumbass. What I'm saying is God is evil, the system he designed is evil, and if an organism is to survive here, it has to be willing to participate in the evil. Just because most people buy their food at a grocery store doesn't make them less culpable. You just dont think about it because you're only thinking at an instinctual level like a dumb animal.
>>41504857You're overthinking it like a fucking nerd
>>41498108>>41498294>>41498389If you want my loosh come and get it, I expect you to be better at draining than the random spirits I've met so far.
>>41504857>you can do evil things in GTA>does that make the GTA devs evil>you can do evil things to your sims>does that make you evil?anon design a challenging game that is supposed to teach the player the difference between right and wrong good and evilyou can't explicitly tell people exactly what right and wrong is they need to figure it out themselvesnow make it multiplayerhow would you do it?
The demiurge is just a "fall guy". The truth is that God Himself desires this awful place so he can enjoy sin in a containment field that "isn't real". We are all literally suffering so a few can live like unstoppable kings and have God download their high. This is why evil powerful people win. This is their place to win, literally, it's what God wanted.
>>41504980Eating an animal isn't evil in the first place thoughbeit
>>41504989god creates gardensgardens are ecological environments tailored to grow specific thingsif this is a gardenwhat is he trying to grow? if this was purely an evil deathmatch battle royale arena then we'd all be pure evil it's not challenging to be evil in this world it's actually easyit's hard to be good and stay good, being pure good is the ultimate challenge in this gardencoincidence? i think not
>>41504997*eats you*Nothing personnel, kid>inb4 but it's bad when it happens to me. im supposed to sp-speshul!!!
>>41505008Nope, it's not evil to eat me either Unless you do it with cruelty and deliberate malice, like some chink eating a random sea-creature aliveBut if a bear or something ate me alive without malice or deliberate cruelty, that wouldn't be evil even if it would be horrible for me
>massively multiplayer deathmatch rape-royale first person pedo usury simulatorhow did god get away with it...
>>41505008>>41505018Actually on some level I hope my body does get eaten by something some dayIf I ever die innawoods I hope I'm eaten by an animal, feels fitting
>>41505024Eaten after dying, to be clear, I don't want to be eaten alive
>>41504989This place was built for the degenerate escapism of God so he no longer has to bare the weight or responsibility of being himself. Many people are so ignorant and stupid because God himself wanted to become that. There is no "planned soul journey" as such but it occurs naturally as parts of God begin to face the reality that he was a degenate and a coward for fleeing to this experience in the first place. Every person here who becomes redeemer is a part of God realising he needs to do better. We are the true work. And Jesus Christ was that. And now you know why God forsaked him - we do this alone. Take responsibility.
>they release the secret vatican ritualsnot looking forward to it bros... if you know you wish you didn't know...
>>41504980Well first of all, I would avoid rewarding and even demanding evil behavior.Anyway, that's not what this place is for. God doesn't care about right or wrong, he only cares about strength. He rewards beings for displaying dominance over their surroundings. The more dominant you are, the more you are rewarded. The aim is to eventually produce a godlike being.
>>41505005We are the ones who see the need for good here, not God. This is because we actually live and suffer here whereas God has heaven and is here to lose soberity. We alone take responsibility for that degeneracy and try to make this place better in spite of God's reasons for creating this place - to be a lion. This is why followers of Christ and good people are the rightful inheritors of the kingdom, we can be better than God, more sober, more responsible, more loving. To be good here, that's what it takes.
>>41505026You dont get to choose how you die. I hope you get eaten alive by reptilian space chinks
>>41492937I'm not trapped in here with the demiurge, it's trapped in here with me...
>>41505084The potential and power of man was always in his ability to deny and rebel against God. But you never knew that love was the true rebellion - that it was Jesus Christ, not Lucifer, who rebelled. Now does Jesus being abandoned by his own Father to be killed make sense to you? Why suffering is always, always the fruit of doing good?
>>41505056Truth. This is what was directly relayed to me by the demiurge Himself.
this post steals your loosh btw
>>41505183this post takes it back, with interest
I hate gnostards so much. You are still following a fake and gay religion even if you reply with "t. hylic"
>>41505056>he only cares about strengthand that strength is?strength could be to remain good in the face of unrelenting all encompassing evil and temptation?or it might not be that deep and he means literal strength is strengthi dunno i think the fact that they NEED consent by way of soft disclosure kind of gives it away if they have to hide and lie and layer it in psyop after psyop after psyop in order to trick and gain consent under duress and omission.... then exactly how strong is evil?they act like they fear usbecause they act deceitfully and in the shadowstrue strength would be announcing your strength for what it issaying it proudlywearing it proudlywaving it on a banner true strength doesn't need to hide behind layers and layers and layerstrue strength doesn't need psyop after psyop after psyoptrue strength is said plainly, clearly, FROM THE CHESTthey even use the fact that good is true strength and can be said openly in order to sell their evils the only issue is the mass of good doesn't understand they are the mass of true strength
>>41505056>rewards beings for displaying dominance over their surroundingsrewards or curses?you've assumed that material reward is a real reward it could just as well be a material curse
>>41505848>and that strength is?Not physical strength necessarily. Maybe calling it 'might' would be more accurate. It's the ability to influence reality to your liking.>>41505865>you've assumed that material reward is a real rewardTrue, I am speaking strictly about the material realm. The reward comes in the form of territory, resources, physical comfort, sexual partners, etc. The more dominant you are, the more of these things you receive.
>>41498324 Yes, they need to eat, retard.
>>41492937Why not transcend the illusion? It's the only way. See the truth and you can be free. The Buddha taught this. He is the only legit being to escape.
>>41492937>Nobody escapesUnless you're a saint and do good deeds. Thats what I've been told. Become good and you get to be free.
>>41498455>evil always winsMaybe in this prison ouroboros reality since this is a prison reality. You can't escape bros are telling the truth.
>>41505035>This place was built for the degenerate escapism of God so he no longer has to bare the weight or responsibility of being himself.Bingo! This is a video game realm which is why Nintendo explicitly references theyre console as a "GameCube". Now you know.
>>41505035>that he was a degenateIt's not that he was degenerate or evil. He just wanted to experience what it felt like to be seperate and die like the rest of us. He wanted to experience this moment as a human to not feel alone. That's what the entire war was about!
>>41505973>it's le circle of lifeI hope you end up as a meal for a pack of starving wolves
>>41506066 Seethe, wolf-fucker. It's a skill issue. Get good.
>>41505535>fakewhich is the real one again?
>>41504989>a few live like unstoppable kingsYet you eat burger king, and you live in comparable luxury to a medieval king, is this not enough for you, spoiled child?Do you know what kind of life a "central planner" lives, from birth to death and after? If you truly did, would you want to swap places?What is "winning" in your eyes? Let me guess, something fleeting.>>41505035Escaping from what? Fleeing what? Guys wtf is with the retarded demoralisation, OP got debunked 100 posts ago.
>>41506196not having to spend most of my life laboring for these men who do none. least i be homeless and thats a crime in itself these days.
>>41506196A well fed slave in chains of gold is still a slave.If your only argument are "luxuries" and temporary pleasures you only reveal what you are hylic.
>>41506251Define slave, because in the end every animal must work to survive. If it was just you in the forest, you would have to work 10x harder for 1000x less. If you're happy with that proposition, who is stopping you right now?>>41506212>>41506251I understand that ultimately you're dissatisfied with the world of man. And you're not the only ones.
>>41506275there is no more free foragable land. someone will find and remove you.
>>41506275It's not just the world of man. Yes, the world of man is shit, but so is the rest of Creation. In fact, the world of man is kinda nerfed compared to the rest of the universe
>>41506306And if there was, would that invalidate the point? You're not a slave by any measure of the word. So why do you think you are? Can you define the word?>>41506354Cars are cool. Computers are cool. Clean water is nice. Hot water is nicer. Harnessing electricity is amazing. And you think it's all shit? Don't use it then.Such backward way of thinking. You should go and live in the woods for 1,2,3 days just for fun. It will put the comforts of modern life that we take for granted into perspective. You'll never know how much you missed toilets.
>>41506413>And you think it's all shit? Don't use it then.No I'm saying that in spite of all our struggles we have it relatively nice (for now at least in the west)
>>41505948dominance isn't the right word. It's more about strength is the sense of mastery. Mastery over self and environment. Material things aren't the rewards necessarily. After mastery, you choose how much of those you want because your are already abundant within.
Sometimes I think of gnostics view on the demiurge as the way cats view being trapped in our houses.
>>41492937Maybe the real Pleroma are the friends we made along the way
>>41494813Until the Demiurge and his Archons are defeated and are reformed when Sophia wakes Us up. You forgot who you are to play a role, multiple rows in a game, the monad made to know itself. You are told your small and helpless, but you are Everything playing hide-and-seek! You are the monad being a mirror, a role so it can know Experience of all its probabilities. Yaldaboath plays Its Role, for if the Great Game is too easy, it's not worth playing.
