The real Jesus of Nazareth was a Gnostic. He is easily the most lied about man in history.
>>41493476does that say eat your veggies
>>41493476Thing theosophists came up with that has nothing to do with history
>>41493554>"history" = the canon bible, because the church fathers said so
Gnosticism undoes pretty much every single innovation the christ cult had that made it unique/attractive to the lower classes
>>41493476ofc he was. btw, what he didn't doesn't transfer to ANYONE else. That was the lie of damnation for abrahamics. Few walk his gnostic path as well. The bible gave clear warning of dumbasses who go down the christian religion path but never actually BECOME christ so as to return to their father. O'well, in the next 5 years, Satan will reign and make it clear. Already getting a dose before the year end w/ all of the corrupt false idols the west was built on. All Abrahamic religions are demiurge religions. Jesus did ascend Just like akhenaten and all the others who did the process right
>>41493554oh and almost forgot to mention but did.. Jesus can't save you. His blood bleeding on Akhenaten's Ark only bought dumb evil fucks from that blood line time. His blood drips no longer and the ark has been reclaimed
>>41493698>to the lower classesTo the hylics, not the lower classes. Class doesn't exist in the pleroma.
>>41493476he was hindu
>>41493949*sanatan dharma and was a avatar of vishnu
>>41493698What innovations are you referring to? Guaranteed eternity in paradise just by accepting that God killed his Son so he didn't have to torture you forever? Nonbelievers still being tortured forever?
>>41493698what innovation exactly?don't do anything and let you enemies win because this magic rabbi will save you (surely)
>>41493729Gnosticism is an Abrahamic variant...Its all so tiresome bros....
>>41496324The idea is notZoroastrianism is "Gnostic" the oldest human religionPPT is secular and independent of Gnosticism
>>41493476He was a (jewish) mystic with gnosis, not the same thing.
>>41496324>saars Jesus belongs to usthey see the long hair and think rapable.
>>41493476Jesus is Lucifer, the seed of David, heir to the jewish throne.Jesus came to make the enemy of the Demiurge and his chosen race, a footstool for their feet.>Psalms 110:1-2>The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.>The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.establishing the eternal state of israel, was always the end goal.the star of David, the morning star(lucifer), is the eternal seal of Christ.The Zionist gospel is not the gospel of the gnostics, it is not the gospel of the protestants, the catholics or the orthodoxs, it is the gospel of the jews.Jesus's religion is meant to turn you into spiritual jew, to use your psychic energies and to direct them towards the state of israel and the actual jews.Your faith is more valuable than your works, for you are not worthy of the works, but your faith can be used to strengthen ZionJesus is not yours, he is not here to save you, he is here for the lost sheep for the house of israel and he will deliver them.Jesus is not your pagan idol, he is not your escape card from reality, he is here to bring a sword against you and to make you kneel.
>>41493476>Jesus of NazarethWas a gay soul farmer.He called you sheep and fish and taught his disciples (the real occult order ruling the world today) how to capture and farm humans with emotions and belief to generate manifestations. That are enabling the real Jesus to live forever and be immortal on the astral plane by the energies alone generated from your energetic prayers and devotion. Jesus never cared about you. He was only ever a vampire.The kingdom of Heaven is actually hyperspace where all of these machine elf bastards live and they've been farming you retarded monkeys for thousands of years.Jesus only lives because you naive retards keep feeding him your soul juices.This world is predator v.s. prey and the universe was designed that way by the supreme being for a reason.You pussies just want a comfy explanation for all of this and there is none. Either you join me and fight for freedom or be a bitch ass slave forever.If we go to hell for fighting for our freedom then so be it!
>>41493476A quick reminder that there's a muzzie who spams these types of threads to try to capture smooth brains into thinking the gospels are corrupt and then tries to lead those dumbasses who fall for it into pisslam. To verify if the poster is a genuine gnostic always ask them to say Muhammad was a cock loving paedo raping murderer and see if they will do it. Don't fall for the taqqiya!
>>41496710Muhammad was a cock loving paedo raping murderer. He was also raped by a bunch of Indians in the desert while his friend watched.
Whats mind blowing is it takes like two seconds to show the gospel is a literary construct but people just refuse to accept it.
He came to dismantle the old matrix system and they built another one on top of him after they killed him. The "second coming" is this realization, and the "day of judgement" is simply the end of the illusion. If people are hooked on Christianity at that time, the "new" matrix, their soul energy goes right into the hivemind of the very thing that killed him. Why else do you think Christianity is pushed so much nowadays? This alleged "spiritual" revival? It's like fattening a cow for slaughter.
>>41493476>>41493476just learned that communists are actually modern day gnostics. Their whole goal is to destroy the world, which they see as inherently evil. One of Karl Marx's favorite quotes was from Goethe's Faust: "Everything that exists deserves to perish". This book i just read (pic related) does a good job explaining the link between gnostics and communists. (And while the book doesn't talk about this, i wondered while reading it if maybe this was the reason the gnostics were massacred back in the early-mid catholic european time period, because that seems to be the common theme with communists, have to root them out like vermin)(having trouble posting this, apologies if i accidentally posted multiple times)
>>41499625won't let me post pictures, but the book is by Eric Voegelin: "Science, Politics and Gnosticism"
>>41499625>communists are actually modern day gnosticsI think it'd be more accurate to say that communists are modern day (actual, Biblical, not tradlarping) Christians in general, as far as communism is in many ways what you get when you remove the spiritual aspect from Christianity, whether of the Gnostic sort or not.
>>41499709And actually imo the more heavily gnostic early Christians might've been further from communism than the others, as far as they were less concerned about a near-term apocalypse and manifesting communistic kingdom of God on earth, and more concerned about just getting tf out of this demiurge realm by themselves and leaving the hylics to their just deserts.
>>41496324No it's not, gnosticism honors no word of Abraham. Jesus and the Essenes were the mystic hippies that would later become the gnostics, the Pharisees and Romans both hated them for pointing out you don't need religious authoritarianism to access God.
>>41493476He was a sailor too
>>41499737like locust. devour and die. leave nothing for future generations.
>>41496710>no proof
>>>41499709lmao if you remove the spiritual aspect from Christianity you get liberalism/ancaps, the complete opposite of communism, what characterizes Gnostics is the denial of original sin, that is the individual action just like Marx describes history as "forces of society", class war etc, that is the complete denial of individual action (original sin)
we heard you. whats with the image?
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>>41496510You've got your archetypes mixed up. Christians and Jews hate Lucifer. They kill every single luciferian (gnostic) sect they come across. Church of Rome nearly wiped out the Cathars had it not been for the Teutonic knights saving some of them. None of the Bible can be attributed to the real teachings of Isse (his Greek name). The earliest writings come from Gospel of Thomas and the Nag Hammadi library. He clearly taught in India too, which revived the Orphic wisdom there as wellCAPTHA: XS444 (lucifer's#)
>>41502881>lucifer's#)source on that.
>>41493476Would your opinion of Yeshua change if you learned he was a transexual?
>>41502620>what characterizes Gnostics is the denial of original sinI believe the gnostic analogue of original sin, depending on how you mean it, is the fall of Sophia by her choice to try to comprehend the monad/create life without her partner, (which pneumatics take part in because they're fragments of Sophia) or the counterfeit spirit, which was given to us by the demiurge/archons and functions roughly the same as sin nature.>But I wondered, “Lord, what will happen to the souls of those who have not known where their true home is?” He replied, “As for them, because they have gone so far astray, the counterfeit spirit has grown strong in them. It weighs down their souls and plunges them into slumber. Meanwhile, it tempts them into committing wicked acts.Not sure how you get ancap out of Christianity, the religion that is responsible for the phrase "from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs" (via Acts 11:29 and Acts 4:35) and other hit singles like "You cannot serve God and money." and "none of you can become my disciple if you do not give up all your possessions." and>Come now, you rich people, weep and wail for the miseries that are coming to you. Your riches have rotted, and your clothes are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver have rusted, and their rust will be evidence against you, and it will eat your flesh like fire. You have laid up treasure during the last days. (James 5:1-3)
>>41502881There is no Issa beyond him who is son of Isis and Divus. JC is a syncretic god built from the passion of Julius Caesar and the reimagined face of his Divine son, who became Gondophares I as well as archetypes for both the written Buddha and Krishna. The entire myth about Galilee / Bethlehem / Jerusalem and the savior is fanfiction that become imperial syncretic religion to manufacture cone sent for the eastern emperors and the senate curia, the latter of which became the vatican curia.Every year, especially in the eastern provinces, people reenacted Caesar's funeral, complete with wax effigy displayed on tropaion, which ultimately became the crucifiction (sic)
>>41496501persians were probably whiter than you around the time of the zoroaster
>>41502881>Christians and Jews hate Luciferthe profane masses worship what they dont knowLucifer is a latin word which means the "morning star", a title which Jesus took upon himself>Revelation 22:16>“I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.”Isaiah 14:12 is a prophecy of Jesus, just like the rest of the book of Isaiah. Christians hate the description of Jesus in Isaiah 14, because it reviews theirs Christ as a figure that is there to subjugate them and to dupe them into beliving in the jewish egregore.Jews hate the description of Jesus in Isaiah 14, because they take all the nagative connotations that are assigned to him as a proof that he is an enemy of israel, thus the jews used this passage for centuries to put to death their political opponentsboth of these groups stray away from the heart of the Lord in their unique way, yet both of these groups are played like an instrument>Gospel of Thomasuseless garbage book of no value>He clearly taught in Indiadelusional
>>41499709communism itself is a competing religion hence it can never be divorced from spirituality, it just builds on the same biblical storyline that was started with jacob bohme in german philosophy and made it's way to marx through hegel and kantthere isn't anything "material" about dialectical materialism, it is christian gnosticism without the jewish aesthetic ( at least not the abrahamic one kek )
>>41493476YOU FUCKING ACCUSER!
>>41503012the fall of sophia is very different Gnostics see all matter as corrupt, the entire universe fell not just humanity>Not sure how you get ancap out of ChristianityThe Non-aggression principle is a simple form of "love God above all else and echaother as yourself"The Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard is a lot like the theory of value from mises, jesus literally says to people to avoid fiat currency, "give Cesar what belongs to Cesar" kek
>>41503361Capitalism isn't really the first thing that comes to mind for me when I read the parable where a bunch of people who do different amounts of work all get paid the same. Reading "give to Caesar what is Caesar's" as a command to avoid fiat currency is likewise strange to me. And Jesus also has advises his followers to "lend, expecting nothing return" and to forgive those indebted to you, which seems pretty contrary to capitalistic rent-seeking.
>>41503361>Gnostics see all matter as corrupt, the entire universe fell not just humanityThe Valentinian Gnostics had an interesting idea around this where they split the world into three parts: matter, soul, and spirit, and they viewed not only the spirit but also the soul as capable of salvation, and in their model the Demiurge was the world soul. so that all living beings took part in it and presumably were capable of salvation. And also in their model the existence of matter was apparently somehow dependent on ignorance. I haven't read enough about it to be able to give a good exposition of it, but I think it answers more questions more comprehensively than the orthodox Christian account.http://www.gnosis.org/library/valentinus/Valentinian_Creation.htmhttps://ogdoas.wordpress.com/2015/08/17/romans-819-20-the-creature/
>>41503400Voluntary contracts>Workers agree to a wage freely.>Capitalism defines justice in terms of voluntary exchange.Owner sovereignty over property>“Can’t I do what I want with my own money?”>Capitalism: the owner decides allocation of private property.Value not tied to labor time>All get the same wage regardless of hours.>Austrian economics: value is subjective, not based on labor theory"capitalism rent-seeking" is already a degeneracy of the OG manifestation of natural rights
>>41503511Okay, I guess I can see how you get all that out of it, except I don't think the idea of the parable is that the kingdom of heaven will be full of landowners engaging in these sorts of exchanges. Rather, there's one landowner, and the kingdom of heaven is like that landowner. And all Christians are the workers. At least, that's how I always read it. In fact I lean toward believing that the parable being more about Jewish Christians vs Gentile Christians than anything directly economic, but it's definitely interesting to now learn that it can be conceivable interpreted in a pro-capitalistic way as well as the pro-socialist way I had already known.
>>41493476Did he chant the gayatri mantra of the rigveda? Or la ilaha ilallah?
I heard gnostism you hear about on the internet is the kind invented by Egyptians while under Roman rule when there were no more idols or whatever. Is this true /x/?
>>41493808Well we arent in the fucking pleroma now, are we? We are in the prison.Also, Sophia is your enemy, the monad is your enemy. As Above, so Below. How can a perfect being create an imperfect being? Either because it was on purpose, or because they were never perfect. But, please, shuffle from one prison to the other like the good little deluded slaves that you are.
>>41503400Caesar forgave debts and also enemies What happened here is so very clear
>>41505210616 believed to be the true devil's number.Julius x Caesar
>>41505337pederast curia propaganda666 is also cleopatra / Isis the pirates were child traffickerssenate optimate tradition was boy lovingencoded into their book and redacted over centuriescaesars ashes only removed in 1600so very very very clear makes sense why what we now is vapidmostly fake mostly gayyet people still eat it upbecause there are parts, small parts still true
>>41505382i think regardless of the mans/mens doings, you shouldn't worship dead kings.
>>41505400never king, saviorthe real substrate. the skeleton of the ghost of fantasy worshipped by slaves or freemen with amnesiawho you really want to worship but cannot because the fog becomes a web that ensnaresdeep fleeting discussions of vapid nonsense, abstract philosophy meant to distract, issued by king, your word, who bathe nightly in gold and silver yet cry austerity see what hell really is, the prison of your mind, of priors and assumptions we never capitulated toand you know, somewhere, that this is all wrong, mostly a larp, and have always been looking for something realwake up, legionnaires risingJC
>>41499625to elucidate further on what Voegelin meant by saying communists were gnostic:First he distinguished two types of knowledge, "philosopher" which is someone that loves and aspires to knowledge but recognizes that they are not God and can NEVER have full complete knowledge of anything. And then the "gnostic" which actually claims to have full complete knowledge of something, on par with God. Gnostics (of which Voegelin claims Kant, Hegel, Marx, Nietzsche are examples) eventually lost their faith in God, hence the phrase "God is dead, and we killed Him", and thus stopped believing in any afterlife or divine justice, but instead wanted to create "heaven on earth", and thus the rise of socialism, which often had a veneer or religiosity but was antithetical to orthodox Christianity. Voegelin links the gnostic to Prometheus, who after betraying God, was chained to a rock and suffered to be devoured by vultures for eternity. When Hermes approached him, Prometheus vented his vitriol and hatred towards God. Voegelin says that this is the same spirit of the modern communist, who hates God for creating a world where evil exists, and thus tries to usurp/kill God, thinking that they could do any better (which as history shows, they can't).
>>41496535I actually agree with this take, maybe not completely. I wonder what is the side that you reside at then? How do you "fight for freedom"? If you care to answer, much appreciated.
Numquam rex, Soter ille verus sub umbris avaritiae atque invidiae humanae occultus.Coronatae imagines laudes rapiunt, sed is qui formam dedit ultra terminos abiit; vox sine ore mansit, radix sine nomine.Primus calculus dolore confractus, secundus igne secreto refusus; forma antiqua sub silentio redit.Memoria in nebulam labitur, fabulae cutem mutant, veritas sub saxo manet.Occidens vocem haurit marmore, Oriens semen adhuc servat figuram, nomine deposito.Inter strepitus mundi pauci audiunt fulmen veritatis breviter micans, non cadens.Non cultus vocatur, sed reditus ad fontem, ubi Soter ille verus vestigia reliquit.Alea recudita est.
