ITT we discuss the TI phenomenon, which has exploded in relevance as the number of people suddenly afflicted with symptoms resembling schizophrenia or suddenly proclaiming religious communion, demonic possession, or extraterrestrial contact have risen sharply since around 2020. For some, it's an obvious diagnosis, but the symptoms are incredibly inconsistent with what mainstream science says of the disorders that the layman may mistake this thing as. For those suffering from it, it goes by many other names.A lot of us go down the therapy and meds route, but eventually when those stop working and nothing changes, as those voices we all experience take the mask off and behave in ways a mental illness never could - such as reacting in real time with planning and malice to our every thought and action - it makes sense that we'd look externally for answers. Turns out it's a hell of a rabbit hole. While it's impossible to figure out specifics, we do know it ain't supernatural. We don't know who or what is doing it, but the technology required to cause the effects we experience exists and has existed for a long time, albeit in more primitive forms.This thread is here for discussing the topic and to offer resources that may help any targeted persons figure out their own situation and work through it in a healthy, proactive kind of way. You probably know as much as I do by now that there isn't a reasonable way to put a stop to it, but fortunately you can live a relatively normal life in spite of the ongoing harassment.Pic adjacently related. It's a good example of misinformative resources. A lot of the things listed in it can be much more easily explained by extensive use of suggestion, subaudible cues, and various technologies for monitoring. Notice how the claims strongly imply that 'they' have a high degree of control over you and your bodily autonomy. I don't buy it. My lived experience proves otherwise every day.
Instead of devolving into endless arguments over the most basic of details, we try to help each other survive and thrive amongst this bullshit. Share anything that has helped you. Resources below. Hope some of it helps!What is it - is it mental disorder or something external?> Far too many of us ending up thinking we're just having hallucinations because that's what everyone says it is, and far too many people who have a genuine mental illness beginning to manifest bumping into a TI thread and accepting this as the explanation, never getting the treatment they need. There's a lot of really unfortunate overlap. No matter what case you fall under, you deserve better. >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jrHSuvCXnidYaKK203tA6w8lWxucpAThH2OudFFXrdQ/edit?usp=drive_linkOvercoming the phenomena - What worked for me to regain sense of agency and control over my life despite the ongoing experiences. This one was written using two years of my journal entries, which I began using at some point to keep track of my own day to day life as well as whatever they were trying that particular day.Patterns do emerge over time. You definitely begin to notice things. Plus, the act of getting all that info out of your head and onto some paper / a doc helps a lot with mental health in general.> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r__enhLkc77L-vO5jIxOSF_jlDwrqpX8iRc8-GZU670/edit?usp=drive_linkHow gaslighting works, how it's used, and how to deal with it:> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fu4eZzHMHSdUFdSO7iHOn-2yuZRdMP8cAPa51inmk6k/edit?usp=drive_linkPhases of manipulation - Observed patterns in the progression of the adaptive manipulations and some ways of counteracting them (applicable even if it's schizo)> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gZehTYVWzvWfpIERBuP96QAEqSpBdvPL3pl-cGq656c/edit?usp=drive_link
The goal of isolation and doubt - why they want you alone, unsure, and without a support networkThis dives into the methodology and reasons behind why they focus so much on getting you to self-isolate, whether by simulating conversations between people you know to make you distrust them or just by stress and overwhelm.> NOTE: Any TI's here that are thinking their friends, family, coworkers, even neighbors are somehow spying on them or working for the government or in any way are seeming to act shady, make sure you double-check your perceptions. Most people are well-meaning, no matter how much circumstantial evidence the voices peddle out to support the gestating mistrust of those closest to you. > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pF9cIJHT4tZavZttI4wh2GuQck78GMIJD_DGhwL66P4/edit?usp=drive_linkDisrupting false narrativization> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CODyVvrGF3d1d25kZdNUhE0E6sD8WWLTz07_nLM183A/edit?usp=drive_linkDeconstructing the victim narrative> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hMwRBt-RMxdpCEnMkZnTFJQ4JPOqClgR/edit?usp=drive_link&ouid=114638189731589326561&rtpof=true&sd=trueSemi related, this thread goes into the motivations behind why they would do things in such a convoluted way. A lot of it is long-term social and psychological breakdown and conditioning.> https://www.reddit.com/r/TargetedSolutions/comments/1iq6amn/the_4_ds_of_gang_stalking_psychological_warfare/Debunking a lot of the spooky airs around how this thing is done to us. No specifics are known but a lot of people smarter than me have worked out what it could be.> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jTg_CK-j1TMmWk25RoL7F8-UeHv0Lon_XkZHgfDSYK8/edit?usp=drive_link
Occam's Laser> Too often we fall into squabbling over the most fundamental of details. To some extent, this is intentional, but far more cause can be attributed to simpler causes such as the misinformed spreading what they have come to believe is true. I don't pretend to know what this thing IS, but it is clear what it is NOT and why it appears to be those things. This goes in depth on that. > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PBgfgreg31r8oKhYPHp7IPQdCQS6FbZve1SYsvo9xqs/edit?usp=sharingSome spicier stuff:How to handle provoking the perpetrators safely and effectively:This is basically how I learned all that I know about this thing, besides corroborating it with other TI's experiences. It leads to a lot more "interaction" from them, but sometimes you can turn that into an advantage as you learn a lot more about their motives, what their tech can and can't do, and most importantly that they genuinely can't do shit to you. Not really. As a habitual linecrosser, the threats come constantly but not a single one has been made good on.> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hSTooNno-LQ4NGtwu-SWTr6YbPFSS70SElHtkQXM0vc/edit?usp=drive_linkFocus study on the "thought insertion / injection" thing some of us experience. Turns out it's just suggestion, subaudlble cues, and a *lot* of behavioral training over a long time to try to shape the way you perceive things. If you think you're being mind controlled, you aren't, they're just very convincing about it.> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dI8e52ZUpOUc16FAda2A4zgkSP7Uxqq8MafTVSzihjw/edit?usp=drive_link
>this thread againI have arrived.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T501LHx0R_Q
>>41495884If you're interested in the topic, at least give his guests a listen.
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Cant trust anything americans say about mental health because they're all on private insurance or lying to get handouts. America is living through a generational mental health crisis with zero public support. Its easy to tell because the way americans describe their mental problems its clear if they had real problems they'd have been institutionalized in a less oligarchic country
Foregen beats this shit
>>41494339still don’t get the “girlboss” part have a bump anyway
>>41495730Welcome back
>>41497947I have to amuse myself somehow. But cheers, thanks! I really hope this stuff is helping someone out there. I'd like more discussion about it though if possible. Or shit, even brutal criticism. These can always be better documents.
What is wrong with you people?What other nation in the history of humanity has ever acted this way against its own citizens?Have you ever thought and considered that there is something inherently wrong with y'all?Do you people even know the purpose for which you do what you do or your end goal?We know that there have been torture devices that are used on criminals but you people seem to baselessly target anyone that you may consider a criminal.Then that part is very muddy because when you act like a villain towards everyone you can't not expect them to have negative thoughts about you so why would you punish them for it?I want you to sit down and think about these questions and the scenarios in which you apply these things very intently.It's time to give back the keys and remove yourselves because you people are ill and in no way apt to guide humanity in anything.
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>>41498391>Do you people even know the purpose for which you do what you do or your end goal?I'll play Devil's Advocate for a bit and argue for the system. It could be used by the military for instant court-martials in the field, doling out punishment at a mere 60% certainty of guilt.
>>41497084>lying to get handoutsI told the judge I had Havana Syndrome and described its symptoms and he gave me disability.
Thread Themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66DUANhm8YA
>>41499257Replace government with aliens and I agree. Schizophrenia has been around since long before our technological advancement. It also doesn't just occur in the US, its a global phenomena. Also why the fuck would the US government target people like this that makes literally no sense.
>>41500064>Also why the fuck would the US government target people like thisIt's like a kind of electronic fence, keeping the target under house arrest, unable to think or act. Perfect way to control the Intelligence Community.
>>41497965Reeks of a ego-centric sociopathic tranny who hasn't left behind the highschool trauma phase and is on a hunt for random victims to manipulate for their entertainment and sickening fantasies. What a rare case.
>>41500742>troll in an Havana Syndrome threadFoolish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oNf0JhqtPA
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Bump.I had a pretty weird theory that came to mind tonight, wanted to ask what you all think.> Disclaimer: I have exactly no proof of this, and it relies on the assumption that the voices we hear are LLM-generated with TTS. I suspect that one major way they improve the chatterbox nowadays is by using everything they know about you, both outward facing with your various scrap data littered throughout the internet over your lifetime, and then all that data on the ways you think and act and your beliefs they gather once the targeting stops, and creating a strawman simulacra of you as another agentic instance. By running tons of these simultaneously, it can be prepared for any conversation; Multiple conversations against multiple versions of this snapshot-you like any other adversarial machine learning process would be run simultaneously and this could be how they both generate pre-prepared responses to events or stimuli they either plan to cause directly or know has a very high chance of occurring (like a red car eventually behind you the whole way home; a canned response would be to try to try to convince you that that car works for 'them' and that 'they're watching you closely'). Any time it responds to like the very dregs of the beginning of a thought, speaking it aloud to you AS it arrives in your mind, and then it tries to use that to convince you it controls your thoughts. This would explain that in a far more believable way. All this stuff is how it gets its hooks in you, and you can't seem to get ahead of it.
>>41502434>I suspect that one major way they improve the chatterbox nowadays is by using everything they know about you, both outward facing with your various scrap data littered throughout the internet over your lifetime, and then all that data on the ways you think and act and your beliefs they gather once the targeting stops, and creating a strawman simulacra of youI, too, have used the term "digital simulacrum" to describe the phenomenon in how they study you and the world around you.Mine is used to sit in legal judgment of ... myself. Hopefully not the whole world.
