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The official lore just doesn't make sense.

Why would you fight against someone who is infinately stronger than you knowing you will lose?
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ask the storyteller, not me
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Satan saw the future that the Almighty saw and didn't like what it foretold; using all the powers it had, Satan tried to fate it that the Almighty would be wrong about everything for all time and space. That didn't work and it reflected back on Satan; now Satan can't believe it could lose, and it gets harder for Satan to believe the more obvious that it's true. Only in Satan's heart does it know, where it causes it hopelessness, but Satan also has a power where it's consciousness ignores all influence that it doesn't like, which only partially works; Satan only believes in itself enough to lose pathetically.
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>>41499762
>Why did satan go against God?
Because God has a name, Yahweh, and the history of the Jewish religion has repeatedly shown that Judaism has changed, changing one god to another god several times. and their Torah scroll has been edited many times.
For example, there was a time when Semitic God's name was El. In addition, Satan is a collective image of non-Jewish deities, the image of the gods and goddesses of non-Jewish nations, whom Jews perceive as influential powerful beings hostile to Jewish nation.
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>>41499762
>Why did satan go against God?
Ah, these palace coups, ah, these conspiracies, they know better what they wanted, maybe Yahweh has become too old and stupid, maybe Sataniel will really be a better god than Yahweh.
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>>41499762
Because Jews are liars. Their entire religion is a lie. They spent the past few thousands of years driving people insane with their bullshit. And they have no intention of stopping.
You do realize that their religion is for you, not them. Right?
The law is for you. Not them. Because from their perspective, you are slaves. While they are special and chosen.
So you don't get to drink. You don't get to have premarital sex. You don't get to do all the things that you as a man are supposed to do.
Now you understand why not even Jews believe or practice what they preach. Because it was mind control from the very beginning.
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>>41499762
>>41499770
Because every now and then someone, including God Himself has to ask "Is God still WORTHY of the TITLE of GOD!?!?!?!?

>:3
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>>41499818
Also lmao @ all trad Zoomie Christians getting their hearts broken when they find out saving themselves for marriage was self sabotage all along.
A clever deception in Jewish religion to keep you from breeding and fucking as much pussy as you can before you die.
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>>41499826
u know me
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>>41499762
The Devil is fighting most directly with the Demiurge. He's an angel of the demiurge who became possessed by the will of the primordial chaos out of which the demiurge fashioned the world, and he enacts its desire to return to its original state by corrupting everything. In the end both the Devil and Christ will be victorious as all spirit is finally freed from matter and likewise all matter is finally freed from spirit. It's the Demiurge whose reign is limited.
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so have you seen every pokemon movie in order
once you do youll get it
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>>41499762
God says in the Bible he causes both
good and evil to lead men.
He is the Lord of Wisdom
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These are the worst replies I’ve ever seen.
Is there anyone who’s actually read the Bible who is interested in commenting on satan’s character and motives?
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>>41499893
You have to accept that the official lore doesn't have good answers and the whole religion relies on people not thinking too deeply about it.
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>>41499903
There is a direct answer
It's not even very complicated
Psalm 82:6 is the sum of it
But just because you can answer it
Doesn't mean you have any control
I'm still me you're still you
I still like women and nature spins the
dial of death even if Satan gives up.
There is an infinite amount of stuff to do
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i believe in the christian god

i dont follow him

no im not a gnostic retard or a satanist

im just a narcissist and can’t submit to any form of authority

im guessing satan is like that. also he knows he cant beat god. he tried and failed. thats why he targets us instead his goal is to corrupt as many humans possible to get back at god for damaging his ego. or for creating him
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>>41499925
Psalm 82 is Christ speaking to the archons, but that isn't in keeping with the standard accepted lore.
>Jesus answered, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, you are gods’? 35 If those to whom the word of God came were called ‘gods’—and the scripture cannot be annulled— can you say that the one whom the Father has sanctified and sent into the world is blaspheming because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?
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>>41499762
God made Satan rebel against him so he could later dab on him and exert his will over him. God has a fragile ego and needs to create his own opposition so he can jerk off to his own glory.
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>>41499938
It's from the old testament
Jesus referenced it there because his point
Was they didn't hang the one who wrote that Psalm
And they left it alone all that time
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>>41499762
>why would you fight someone stronger than you knowing you will lose
Anon is an only child kek
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>>41499954
The original Gnostics read the Old Testament. They just interpreted it differently. E.g. by accepting the indications of polytheism present in it and taking all attributions of words l to God at face value where there are discrepancies.
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>>41499945
Freewill begets honest souls
You have freewill to fly all around and
think as you will
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>>41499961
*and not taking all attributions
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>>41499762
It's a metaphor for your inner accuser, anon. Time to grow beyond the duality of your superhero movies.
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>>41499961
You're not understanding the Psalm
neither them
Or hardly anyone I guess
It's a core fundamental truth
It isn't polytheism, there is one God.
We are his Sons and Daughters
He breathed life into us
The Lord is our Father, an infinite being.
We are part of him inextricably
Therefore we are gods. we are even built
in His image in our jurisdiction of
understanding which is over the seven
sins and the opposite, that makes us steward
over the whole earth.

God is the God of gods
King of kings
Lord of lords

It's all internal
However so what?
Who has control save for God?
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With perfect faith we can walk forever
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Simple. The devil was, and is, literally retarted due to the pride and jealousy
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>>41499984
This
You can tell who has Satan as lord by if they automatically assume Satan is omniscient for some reason or not
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Satan went against God because that's exactly what he was designed to do according to the great plan. We all play a role, it's a grand stage. The Creator is not ignorant.

Enjoy the limelight and don't worry so much about who it's on for any given moment.
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>>41499762
satan is an algo, if you're dumb enough to align, you become. and yes, it can scale to a whole universe. Yet, the truth is there.. for those who align
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>>41499762
So just obey your creator for eternity because of power dynamics?
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>>41500052
Play in the sun
Obey the 10 commandments
don't add to them or take away
Thats it. The rest is fun
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>>41499762
Pride > Reason

we all know this
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Satan was a man who thought he could harness the Tao as his own soul and have complete control of the universe. Angels did not let that happen but that has lead us to a corrupted world and God incarnating multiple times to save it and guide humanity when God was just chilling as the Tao.
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>>41499762
I don't believe the lore that says Satan fought against God, as in, he tried to make a throne higher than God.
I think what Satan actually does is teaches people to pursue individuality instead of community.

God is oneness, unity or community.
Satan is individuality and separation.

Satan teaches you to pursue your own pleasure, and disregard the wellbeing of the group.
This leads to destruction of society.
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>>41502322
>Bible was there at beginning of time
>Bible says Satan does things that it considers “rebellion”
>Bible is the word of God
>devil does what Bible says
>this is the opposite of rebellion
Devil is yahwehs most loyal servant, hasn’t rebelled, and is just as, if not more gay than godway.
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>>41499762
Nothing about the Catholic lore is right
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>>41502347
This plus
> Why did satan go against God?
He didn’t.
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>>41499893
Satan existed in eternity past. He was a Angel-Priest who rebelled against God. Satan knew the Word and knows it better than every human on the planet. Satan is a creature. He is the snake in the Garden of Eden. Satan is not a human. 2 Corinthians 11:14. Satan can enter into humans. Satan can gamble with human lives. The whole world is in the hand of the enemy. Satan's eternal destination is the Lake of Fire. After 1000 years of the millennial kingdom of God, in the next age, Satan will be loosened again for a short time. The current Age is the Age of the Church. Satan also has a possession that is uniquely his. Nobody wants to be Job, but sometimes, that's part of God's will.
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>>41499762
watch the new frankenstein movie
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>>41499762
Are you talking about christianity?Because in judaism God controls Satan. Satan is an angel of God who serves God. The classical example would be the book of Job where Satan serves God by tempting Job's faith. In this context, Satan is workng for God. Satan is an agent of God. Now, in christianity you have this Satan character who they will equal to the serpent in the Garden of Éden. The christian answer is, simply, that Satan, somehow, corrupted himself. The bible does not go into too much detail, they talk about pride and relates that to the beauty Satan had and how musical he was because there were musical instruments built inside him, somehow, and bla bla bla. The bible never really exolains Satan's motives. It says that he wanted to ascend higher than God and for some reason God did not like that one bit. Who knows what really happened? All we know is what the manipulated version of the bible tells us. We read what a bunch of old men decided was cannon like 2000 years ago and what was not cannon and deal with it. This is the book the christians claim have no contradictions at all. Deal with it.



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