>inb4 you recommend me some abysmal books telling me to wave my hands and feel energy ballsI never encountered a satisfactory explanation and I can't feel energy or anything like that. Tried meditation for a few months every day but I never felt energy or anything special either. If you get occasional magic attacks from someone how can you protect yourself? I am really tired of being a target of a witch. Also how can I know if there are spirits involved? I heard there are other more powerful beings but nobody every explains what they are. Are they just thought forms from the "world of ideals" kind of thing or are they actual living beings? Apparently shamans used to battle these predatory creatures but were they actually real physical beings than or were they spirits?
>>41502242It's just this but played out unironically.
>>41502263I am asking for mechanics behind it. Not how it looks.
>>41502327The mechanics are how it looks like. Believe the other person is getting owned and pushing it outwards while believing yourself to not get owned.
>>41502242my uncle told stories about aboriginal clever men pointing a bone at somebody and them dying, mostly people from the tribe. maybe its power of belief or faith. anyhow, do you know a witch is targeting you and is it a wicca or one of those creepy bog witches that collect hair for curses
>>41502339What if you are not aware someone is attacking you? You get physical symptoms but you can't get rid of them no matter what you think or do.
>>41502364I know she is targeting me but I am not the only one. I assume she learned it from someone and it's maybe vlach magic.
When others use them on me I typically grow a brain cell or more than one in them or others connected to how they think in the loosh of Creation. Sometimes it's a cell in their reward centers that causes them to secretly (to them) want to aim at someone else, or somehow else...sometimes I plant a cell elsewhere in their nervous system that will cause their aim to be "bad" and lead them to the targets I want them to aim at. I can plant things in them that make them want to do something completely different then what they think they want. Sometimes though I just figure out what the being wants to force on me, and if I don't like it I simply forbid it, and if that doesn't push the influence out I'll destroy and create things until I can successfully push the loosh away. Sometimes I let attacks come through and harm me because they're going to harm me in a way I included in my plans.
>>41502398have you visited a priest? you could always just employ psychical magic, break all her pots and mailbox as a message
I also take preventative measures. I plant brain cells and change neurology in other ways in evil and good people, both to make certain parts of me more or less evil but also as a safeguard; there are evil beings that will not let good loosh affect me because they don't want me going more good, there are good beings who keep evil loosh out of me because they don't want me going bad. I arrange like a seesaw, to tilt the direction I want when I want until I have to change things in myself and/or others to move more in the direction someone has suggested to me.I want occult powers to obviously work in real life in all areas of life. That will take time, it's hardly that obvious yet, but in order for occult powers to take root in ALL areas of life, I must change as I age, becoming a slightly different person of a slightly (at least) different personality every day, each new moment, so that I will take different actions. I want occult powers to be involved in things I don't like even, say for example racism, because though I hate racism I love the occult and spreading it takes priority over how or why, often. Besides, occult powers already work in all areas of life, and adding these cells and making these changes will bring that hidden thing the occult more to the surface. Until we're judged not just by how we look, our money and our skills but also our occult powers. Until occult powers being very real is common knowledge.
>>41502425When it happens to me I am not aware I am attacked. I just feel physically and mentally disturbed so it doesn't seem like it comes from an external influence. I only find out I was attacked when it's over and someone who knows this stuff dealt with it when someone close to me reports it to him. Family member was attacked once and felt the need to go to church but it didn't help her. Not sure what the priest would even do or say because I am pretty sure they don't believe in this or have the skill or power to fight it. I can't confront the witch because she won't stop until she is dead or me and my family are dead.
>>41502495is this witch a gypsy? finding out more about her race and folk magic would be a good. only suggested church because sometimes the spiritual bubble it creates can help shield you from those things
>>41502568Not gypsy. She is related to me. There is no way for me to know what she exactly does. >spiritual bubble it creates can help shield you from those thingsI heard the same from some russian video where ex witch claims she couldn't touch muslims because the egregore was protecting them.
>>41502614shes related to you? any idea what pissed her off? grudges often supercharge curses from stories ive heard. yeah christians have the same, its weaker now thanks to christians behaving like we're in laodicea
Post 1 of 2>>41502242>What are magick attacks?We exist in a massive field of information expressed by many different physical forces, most importantly electromagnetism. Each thought, emotion, action, and word have their own electromagnetic field. Ergo each human has their own magnetic field which normally protects them. If a person concentrates sufficiently, that field can be expanded and utilized to send positive or negative fields toward others via the quantum field. >Can I be protected?Yes. I recommend everyone be skilled at this. Meditation and concentration is excellent for building and repairing the aura (magnetic field) but insufficient during active attacks. Ceremonial magick (banishing rituals) and prayer are useful to defend and send counter attacks. Thing is you have to believe what you're doing is working. If you don't, you're invalidating the working. Quiet the rational mind, focus, and simply DO with strength and faith. As if it's completely natural and you know for sure it will eventually work. >Why does it work?You're shaping your auric field through mental will and concentration. Think about it like an extension of your physical body that hasn't been exercised. Right now it's to the point of extreme atrophy where you can't even feel it there. By feeding it (meditation and concentration) and shaping it via "exercise" (ritual, prayer, mentation) you can use it to ward off attacks and even counter attack. I've used many rituals over the years but these are the best:
>>41503162Post 2 of 2Less banishing ritual of the pentagramLesser banishing ritual of the hexagramDavid Brand's sword banishing (see his book "Magickal Protection)Prayer of St Benedict (Latin)Prayer to Saint MichaelStar Sapphire (thelemic, sounds badass as fuck when you speak the lines in ancient Greek)The shapes and movements are like a shield and armor.
>>41503202Damon Brand* His entire book is filled with helpful measures. Available on scribd and Anna's archive. Gypsy magick is very weak compared to Jewish, Satanic, or the Aryo-Christian stuff.
>>41502263I cast fist
>>41502242if u don't believe in it it can't do anything to u
>>41502242There are way too many to enumerate, but what you need to understand is that magick is ALWAYS net-positive.ALWAYS.This was a misunderstanding in the implementation, so it's not as obvious as it should have been.All magickal curses are blessings in disguise, all of them.Don't get me wrong, you can bless someone in a way they will never understand and totally fuck up their life in the process.But if you find yourself under magickal attack simply ask how to turn it into an advantage, there's always a way, 100% of the time.All curses are blessings in disguise.All of them.Without exception.Not even one.No, you can't game this law.
>>41502242Have you tried visualization? I find it's a very effective practice.
>>41502965>any idea what pissed her off?I will never know. But if history thought me anything it's that you don't need a reason to do evil to others. Just the fact that me and my family exist pisses her of.
>>41503162>>41503202I heard LBRP attracts things to you because it makes you glow. Thanks for the information by the way. This could just be my own imagination but in the past there was a time when I felt full of energy and when I noticed family member was acting strange I assumed it was a directed attack so I imagined feeling as if my own energy pushed that harmful shit out and back to the sender but I can't recall or tell if it had an effect or what happened. I would like to think it did something. A thing with prayers and rituals that always repelled me is that I am not religious and there is a lot of dogma, belief and cultural baggage that made me disconnect and even be afraid of dabbling with stuff like that. Especially since I don't know what egregores and spirits may be involved. >>41503721I hear visualization is a harmful thing in certain contexts at least
>>41502242 A Summary of the Attack:"I hate you!""You did me wrong." There is no other way to resolve this. You did [alist of grievances] to me!"I concentrate my hate onto you." (I put your name on a plate and throw it as hard as I can until it breaks, so you break.I write your name on paper and burn it as you will. YADDA). I visualize my hate and project it onto you." I hope [a list of bad things] happen to you." Have you screwed someone over to the point where they would spend a whole lot of energy sending curses your way? Offensive magick employing spirits doesn't come cheap! Access to Plato's World of Ideal Forms needs a spiritual guide. Read the 23rd Psalm and receive the gifts it offers, you just got access to it -- it doesn't matter whether you're religious or not! Or could go to the clergy and tell them what you did and have them remove it. Next, the Attitude Adjustment Chant --"Return to Sender,Address Unknown,No such Number,No such Zone"repeat it as much as you have toSee a white light beaming down to the top of your head. See it spread from your heart as a shield surrounding you. Order curse to return to its source. If you are really being attacked by a "witch" and need to go further than this, you might want to visit wizardforums.com. I won't freely give out spells anymore. But research Bindings...
>>41504020>Have you screwed someone over to the point where they would spend a whole lot of energy sending curses your way?I haven't done anything. Like I said this is not that often but occasionally me or some people close to me get attacked. With help of a clairvoyant it gets cleared but it's getting annoying. I don't want to just protect myself but my entire family. Are there any talismans or ways to protect us at least in our own homes?
>>41503845maybe if you ask her nicely she might stop. jokes aside, what anon said is generally true, the more you believe it in it more damage it can do.>>41503202 doing something said here or praying, might help you feel less uneasy about it
>>41502425No, dont do that. Many an unscrupulous astral zoomer might harass you for the plain purpose of ostracizing you. >>41503845>Just the fact that me and my family exist pisses her of.>>41504081You dont need spells. You just need awareness of the foreign thoughts or limitations and "spell" against it. In addition you must cut any etheric cords if you sense their presence and lastly just imagine that breaking into someone's house in the usa gets you shot. You have a tazer in your right pocket, you can shoot burglars. You just dont think about it when asleep or in lower consciousness. Get the astral cattleprod and taze that witch.
>>41504081>the more you believe it in it more damage it can doAre you implying that if I didn't believe it wouldn't do any damage? That is wrong because I never believed it at first a close family member who was under attack more and longer than me went through hell but didn't know magic was in question for many years. It's not something that comes to your mind even when you have unexplainable problems. You just assume it's in your head or some physical illness, you just have bad luck and it's a coincidence and your negative attitude and thoughts are your own and not influenced in any way.
>>41504148im joking about asking her nicely.>astral zoomerare you fucking kidding me? theyre not only invading the the gym on 3pm but the astral realm too
>>41504159>Are you implying that if I didn't believe it wouldn't do any damageyeah thats just a theory from what ive heard about curses. how strong was the first attack you got?
yesyou learn magickal protectionjason miller has a popular book on thisas for magickal attacksyes some use spirits some use their pure willit's like real life it doesn't hurt to have a first aid kid and it doesn't hurt to have some self defense tools
>>41504180My first time that I know was at least 6 years ago and I can't remember it well. I only found out I was attacked years later. At the time I thought I was just depressed but there were also weird sensations of body being stressed and being short of breath as if I am anxious but that feeling never leaves even when my mind is calm and I am in a chill setting without stress which made no sense to me.
>>41504327did it get stronger over time?
>>41503884There are three main ways of perceiving energies. Visually, auditorily, and through "touch" or feel. It's pretty rare for individuals to be outside of these three, but possible. You just have to find your style.Visualization is open to trickery, but there are ways to safeguard yourself.
>>41504076So, it’s unjustified. Magick requires raising energy. That kind of hate does more harm to the sender over time than it does to their target, but what I wrote can taken to the next step. the 23rd Psalm itself is protection. Visualizing the white light can be seen as a liquid you can fill a bucket with and pour it over their heads. See it form a bubble around them and visualize it becoming an inward-facing mirror which reflects their hate back to them. This is not revenge! Don’t use hate back at them. Take a string, tie it in knots and say something like, “You are bound!” If you tend towards mercy, then set a time limit on this to expire. No entities needed! See this white light become a barrier around where you live. Magick doesn’t need to be hateful!
>>41503884>dogma, belief, and cultural baggageDude I totally get it. I was there once and decided to just set aside my pride, ego, and fear and trust that mystics throughout time probably knew more than I did about any of it. Like if these people had good results and were protected for years despite living in difficult times (like Crowley who would have died literally 5 times without magick), what did I have to worry about?I chose to see the beings in the rituals as extensions of myself, like archetypes. >LBRP badFear mongering. I've not had any problems ever and I'm a gnostic. If something demiurgic about it, I'd know. It should be the main prayer, just something to get you in the mood for others
>>41502242It is not currently possible for you. Any protection concept requires a territory, which means nothing to me and is easily overstepped. Some day, if you can secure the invite meant for you, it is possible to learn how this works at magical university.Right now I have other projects and will help magic get through regardless of what you or anyone else wants. My neutrality is the primary fuel for all affairs right now and it could change in five minutes
>>41502327The witch would be using her energy in a way that adversely effects your energy. We are not entirely contained within our bodies, we have an energetic field around us, that's what people are referring to when they say they can see your aura. Fortunately, the physical body is essentially a faraday cage that can stifle energetic attacks. Unfortunately, it doesn't work very well when you exist half outside it 24/7. Start meditating again with a focus on feeling and moving the energy inside you, eventually you can figure out how to retract your aura inside your body like a turtle when you feel attacked.
>>41502242>I half-assed it and felt nothing!Then what the fuck are you worried about?>I am really tired of being a target of a witch.Are you sure you even are?Alright, fuck it. Try this one. Get a bottle. Fill it with pins, needles, thorns, broken glass, and other uncomfortable things. Also put some of your hair in it, out of a brush or comb. And your own piss. Seal it and bury it near your home. Now your attacker will go after the witch bottle and harm themselves instead.I'm sure there's also something you can do with a mirror but I'm not as familiar with reflection magic.
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There are more options now. (' - ')
>>41510004>if you are cursed sell all your shit and move awayIf that were the solution I’d just pretend Jesus were real, but I guess he wants you to sell all your shit too and give it to the poor so..
>>41512538prayer didn't even work for the apostlesprayer didn't even work for paulthey just coped that having demons was gods lesson despite promising to drive them off in earlier verses
>>41515865>sell all your shit too and give it to the poorif you read the bible this actually means to give all the money to Peter. they didn't want you to give it directly to the poor literally lol the judeochrist cult need $$$$.
