>>41506261 If you can imagine it, then it is possible—of course there is a way. But remember: before you can ever hope to throw a fireball, you must first master the conduit: your own mind and body.

And what would a fireball be for? Just buy a gun, and use the time you saved to learn something actually unique.

>>41506261
Dip tennis balls in gas. Hold ball in one hand lighter in other . Light balls throw fire balls. Boom now your a wizard.

Whether it was tricking large men in jail into giving me food, defending myself against impossible odds from superior attackers, or getting laid despite my autismal behavior, I wouldn't call those results mind games. Sure I did most of it by changing the minds of others through magic, but just because it's largely telepathy and not something more dramatic like levitation doesn't mean it's not real.

>>41506261
something about visualizations making whatever more something
install mind computer
complex shapes
imagination-land intersecting with physical reality
idk i don't have any powers
or maybe i just never use 'em
maybe both
maybe a master does the basics with perfection every time forever

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>>41506261
Yes and no. You can develop many interesting abilities but many, most even you can only develop at certain level of innate understabding of yourself and the world - or if you'd like, spiritual development/mastery.

The thing is the further along that path you are, you will care less about base human drives and ego trips of shooting fireballs. In fact, it's likely you'll just fuck off to live peacefully, die and move on into some greater sphere of existence more befitting you, not reincarnating here anymore.

So all of those who want flashy powers are unlikely to be ever able to use such and those who could make use such had to change in a way they are unlikely to ever attempt to do so.
Though fireball if we are to be honest is absolutely impractical bullshit no one knowing jack shit about magic wouldgo for. Pure childish audiovisuals, hardly effective and much harder to make than it's worth - given it requires opposing shitloads of laws (fire without furl, spherical shape, levitating). Real magic is about effect, not making things retardedly hard for yourself for the cool factor. An occultist able to kill someone won't ever do it by rolling up to their opponent and throwing glowing shit at them. He'll stay at his house, far away, and in the next few days his enemies will die by convenient, unlikely freak accidents, onsets of sudden health issues, sudden lapses of judgement - with distance or armor not making a difference.
Magic is best done when it's along the lines of probability and coincidence, not directly throwing your will against the world.

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>>41507325
I guess to explain it for more clueless/green anons, basic shit about magic many who never got anywhere never understood:

Magic of the practical kind seems more like psychology than power because ultimately the ability is not a skill you exercise but expression of yourself - not a thing to do, but result of who you are.

The truly powerful adepts are those most who aren't related or otherwise acquainted with them - will never realize nature of. They'll never have to cast deadly spells, because if it's not needed reality will ensure they have no enemies to fight or their enemies are toothless and take care of themselves.
They'll never materialize wealth because reality will provide what they need in a fair manner.
They won't need for immortality or fame because they already moved past earthly desires and their life is just now a short break they let run its course before whole new, higher level of existence.
And if they'll levitate objects, charge electric devices with a touch, set things on fire, disappear to appear elsewhere etc? Tricks they'll take for amusing application of their understanding they won't show anyone but close ones, mostly for amusement.

>>41506814

How did u accomplish it?

>>41506261
>There isn't a way I can lean to shoot fireballs from my hands?
not with your genes, thanks to the anunaki. but some people can push a little and do something close to it. i summoned a fired ball once by accident and it was a really traumatic situation. watching the world around you change into something you weren't taught should exist? It's frightening, but it does exist, i can't deny what happened.

>>41507528
By foreseeing that all of those things would come to pass when I was 5 and setting about creating and destroying brain cells and making other changes in myself and others that would guarantee that future I saw came true. It was not "easy" pulling off even such small miracles, you couldn't call the time I've put into this "easy", but I seek to make it easier for others. It'll get better.

I tricked the large men in jail into thinking they'd get out soon, and they kept giving me their food over and over not realizing they weren't getting out. Easier then making them scared of me. As for defending myself against impossible odds, I trained at and memorized the exact moves I'd need to win, if I hadn't foreseen the future or got one move wrong I'd have lost. As for getting laid I targeted highly sexually frustrated, needy people, sluts, and with my methods I was able to at least nut in some sluts. Kinda embarrassing that I had to bend space and time to make that possible but whatever.

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>>41506261
if you wanna unlock those powers, careful. you can, but energies like that attract others. not to mention that you could end up becoming a vessel for some entity to feed on your ambition. all is energy, make sure yours is healthy.

I dont know about shooting full fireballs but here’s what we have as confirmed powers or siddhis that is possible for the average human with training. Based on the testimony of various orders of monks both east and west, witnesses and magicians of various orders.

>mind reading
>clairvoyance and clairaudience
>levitation( but not full flying apparently)
>growth and shrinking of body at will
>shapeshift(animal and opposite gender)
>healing
>super strength, super speed
>teleportation
>making the body extremely heavy or light at will
>making objects heavy or light at will
>extreme temperature resistance
>communicate with animals
>making desires and wishes a reality effortlessly

As for mastery over the elements. I have studied siddhis for some time extensively and I’ve never heard of being able to manifest fire from your hands from nothing but taking control of fire that already exist is entirely possible. That is you can light a candle or something and manipulate that fire off the candle and throw it somewhere else. So there’s that if that is satisfactory to you?

>>41506261
>shoot fireballs

Google Jhonny Chang Magus of Java

>>41506488
This. Like what the fuck would one even use fireballs for? Take over the world? They'd be iced so fucking fast, they'll wish they fireballed themselves.

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>>41509338 Like we give a shit about world domination. Fireballs are just cool, plain and simple. Think about it – if you have the power to throw a real fireball here, you're already capable of way more insane shit.
>>41509326 Interesting, thanks anon.

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>>41507325
>base human drives and ego trips of shooting fireballs
My guy, if someone is coming after me I don't think it's too much to ask of my ego to lob a fireball at my attacker just to get them to leave me be.

>>41506261
You can study engineer, and shoot the fire ball. End result is the same.

>>41506261
That's all it is. You can see everyone in here devolve their answer to "Why would you want to shoot fireballs, lol???" or "When you learn it you won't want to"
>>41507553
You can tell that this guy thinks he is the main character in some kind of anime while in reality he has never been in a fight. It's so obvious if you've seen real fights.
Magic isn't real. At least not the "magic" everyone on this board "practices". Everyone has deluded themselves for some kind of personal satisfaction and to socialize here on this board.
Nobody itt will admit it but they all know it's true. I once made a massive thread where everyone in there ended up admitting that's the truth.
The harm is real though. You can make yourself really paranoid when you start messing with your psychology. Like believing there are "entities" behind you because you had to believe it first in order for "the magic to work". That's why there are memes that are like "the average /x/ guy can't sleep without a lamp on".
/x/ should be for aliens, cryptids and conspiracy theories, not this pretentious, egotistical bullshit. Leave that shit for /r9k/.

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>>41506261
We exist in a high magic setting where we used ancient sigils used to bind demons so we can make lightning think. Looking at liquid crystal displays (LCD) and seeing without seeing and listening to sounds without hearing. Electricity and magneticism is the magic of this world.

>>41506261
Yes, magic is bullshit and not real.

The anons saying otherwise clearly need help.

Forget guns. A 9mm is a toy compared to the raw plasma anon can summon from the aether. Their entire agency is built on the lie that reality is solid and predictable. Your first successful fireball shatters that lie forever. They see your posts about occult theory and their HRR departments have meltdowns. They aren't watching you to arrest you, they're watching in the hope you never, ever succeed. Magic is real. Now go practice.

>>41511712
skeptical anon who thinks is all bulshit goes to a treath filled with his same bannered and uses it as evidence that thier is a secret code that non of its real , somehow enforced on a anonymous schizophrenia forum.

I do think a lot of the excuses this places have are a little bit cope. like they don't even have the usual argument that in theory you could cast fireball but its hard , like a lot of places have , but anon.

your logic disgusts me.

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>>41506261
>There isn't a way I can lean to shoot fireballs from my hands
If this is your belief then this is your reality.

>>41514685
Anon I'm not saying everyone is following some kind of code
Everyone who gets hooked on this just propagates it. It's like finding a hobby and a social circle. The only reason I get annoyed is because not only most people advertise it as real, they are also being egotistical about it. And I've come to realize the real "hobby" here is feeling superior over others. It's a dick measuring contest based on empty air. So of course I'm going to make fun of it.
Not to mention all the pressuring into doing drugs I've seen. And it's done to people who are innocent and just want to see if something like magic exists.
I come to /x/ for the very rare interesting threads, but when I see someone asking about it I have to tell them the truth. If magic exists, /x/ is farther away from it than the average normie.

>>41511397
>I don't think it's too much to ask of my ego to lob a fireball at my attacker
It is, in that it won't work.

>>41515362
>If magic exists, /x/ is farther away from it than the average normie.
Obviously false, lmao. The average bluepilled normie's brain would melt if it tried to process a single /x/ thread. You know what they crave? Primitive slop. The dumber, the better. It's not about a superiority complex, it's the sheer agony of listening to their NPC takes on reality. I have to wade through this shit every single day. No wonder /x/ is seething 24/7.

>>41515536
In my experience it depends on the normie. Many times it is the case that a normie used to be really into schizo shit, be it magic, conspiracy theories, aliens or what have you but grew out of it and realized that there's a lot of bullshit out there and they need to take what joy they can get, and that joy comes from simplicity. Have good friends, make some money, have fun. Knowing overly complex lore about something that is probably made up doesn't constitute enlightenment or wisdom.

>>41515761 The world is a lie agreed upon, and that agreement is shattering. The normie is an empty shell, a golem animated by the glamour of trending notifications and social conditioning.
The social contract is COPE. It's gone. You're just witnessing the Great Unplugging, while the NPCs desperately try to log back into a dead server.
Let us speak the forbidden truth: not all conspiracies are theories.
Magic is the hidden science. The only thing they truly fear is the day anon stops shitposting and starts spellcasting. They know what happens when a random anon manifests a goddamn fireball IRL.
>Knowing overly complex lore about something that is probably made up doesn't constitute enlightenment or wisdom.
Wrong. It rewires your perception.

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>>41506261
>orb

>>41515536
I do not think I am smarter than everybody else or that everybody is a retard. Your parents must have done a number on you, learn some humility. We all have to start somewhere anon.

>>41517043
>learn some humility
Translation: let them thought police you.

Weed is suppose to make you schizo but it's only when I stop that I feel I could nuke a city with my mind.

>>41506814
>was the prison bitch
>offers up his ass when attacked
>getting topped by a bear counts as getting laid apparently

>>41507553
>made himself a retard
>is now the best chunibyo wizard in the whole universe

>>41506261
To me, magic is just art. Your pic is magical. Someone had to edit an image and put Kek's face on it. That is magical to me. It's funny. It made me laugh, therefore the image caused a change inside my mind, that is magical. The individual used an image to cause a change in reality. By editing that very image he changed reality. It is magical. Everytime you experienced someone doing something artistic and that probably got your attention and inspired some kind of feeling and made you think, behold, you were contemplating someone doing magic. When you go to a tit club and you get mesmerized by the beautiful naked women dancing that is magic because dancing is an art and the music that they are dancing to is also art and they are on a stage after all, it is art, therefore magic. That's why you magic wand gets hard. Their magical movements designed to trigger sexual emotions are you is working. Dancing seductively in order to arouse one's moods to fuck is a most ancient magical art. It's because we live in a world where magi has become something mundane and it lost its purity.

>>41507572
What training do they do? I need help with healing, flying, teleportation, super strength and general mental re-railing among many other things

>>41518505
>magi has become something mundane and it lost its purity.
Nice try, glowie. Pike himself said the Magi doctrine is sub-rosa.
>magic is just art
Exactly what a powerless normie would say. You either can control it or you can't. It's that simple.

>>41518665
Are you OP?

Are you a literal child? You know how to cast fireball. Yes how you're thinking. Yes it's that stupid. If you want it to be worth it, it's a ritual spell. And by now you see why people don't bother casting it1.

>Isn't that (field of science)?
Science is to cause & effect as magic is to ???

1it gets cast all the time, the gov't puts a lot of resources into casting it.

>>41518840 The matter is more nuanced. I don't dispute that ritual magic can produce such effects—it likely can. But who is the true source of the fireball? A summoned daimon? The deeper question is, why would we need such intermediaries to command the universal energy that permeates all things? I am convinced we can learn to access and wield this energy directly.

>>41518888
m8 you're overthinking it. when cast modernly as a ritual spell, you're taking advantage of energy that's just waiting around. You don't need to cast it as a ritual (and therefore there's no deal or daimon), but you need the material components even if you're casting it instantaneously so imo it's not worth the stress compared to taking your time and ritual casting.
If you haven't figured out how to cast fireball for fun already then you probably will not be able to cast it until you have a good reason to