>don't have kids!>espoused by those with wishy-washy morals>most of human history was civil enough to make little to no mention of such blasphemy>followers are outcasts, losers, and contrarians>followers end up going nuts and dying young (typically anhero) or other unpleasant means>consist largely of pseuds who think they're enlightened because they fried their brains from too much porn>"existence is suffering" gets BTFO by the existence of supermorbidly obese people and people who've been wealthy their whole livesRemind me again why i keep seeing posts about this braindead ideology?
>>41524097>followers are outcasts, losers, and contrariansThat unironically makes it more likely to be true, you NPC retard
>>41524097>gnosticism is just one unified paradigm>taoism is just one unified paradigm>christianity is just one unifed paradigm>buddhism is just one unified paradigmNotice how none of these are true, but you are making a stupid generalization and attacking that generalization instead of saying anything real about the specific flavor of gnosticism you're yapping about. Didn't even fucking read your post btw, waste of my time.
>>41524104Indians must be peak enlightenment then since they're the only country in the entire world where poor sanitation is the norm.>>41524116"Uhhh you made fun of people who wear jeans but not the specific brand, get owned bro uhuhuhuhuh"Only a hit dog yelps retard congrats on outing yourself in front of the entire internet
Archons and Hylics still butthurt about that thread I see lmao
>>41524104Gnosticism is repurposed bastardized persian iconography... which in turn is bastardized vedic. Yknow
>>41524132>NOOOO DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN RABBI YESHUA AND DEMIURGE WORSHIP
>>41524097>"existence is suffering" gets BTFO by the existence of supermorbidly obese people LOL they dont suffer from back pains and feet pain or have any emotions. OP is a third worldy seething at Americans.
I'm not 100% 'gnostic' but I will always encourage it if it means the downfall and destruction of this longhoused rat race we live in.your kids will be skipping social studies class to practice theurgy in no time and that's a good thing>followers end up going nutsthat's a good thing
>>41524097>Remind me again why i keep seeing posts about this braindead ideology?Because you are on /x/ and not /pol/ and you should go back to your board.
>>41524097Christianity is the spiritual equivalent of being a battered spouse.>The world God made is full of suffering, but it's our fault because 6000 years ago two people ate a fruit they weren't supposed to!>He gives kids cancer and watches while they die in agony, but that's all part of his plan!>He loves all of us, most of humanity is going to be tortured forever for not guessing that he's real and worshipping him but that's just tough love!
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>>41524241Which is just bastardized Mesopotamian polytheism.
>>41524241God pre-exists any human cultural practice, hylic.
>>41524097>don't have kids!Straw man. is anyone who doesn't want kids for any reason blasphemous? They're not telling you not to have any.>espoused by those with wishy-washy moralsAd hominem + guilt by association. >most of human history was civil enough to make little to no mention of such blasphemyAppeal to tradition + argument from ignorance.>followers are outcasts, losers, and contrariansAd hominem + appeal to ridicule/authority.>followers end up going nuts and dying young (typically anhero) or other unpleasant meansHasty generalization + false causation. There are thousands of perfectly healthy gnostics.>consist largely of pseuds who think they're enlightened because they fried their brains from too much pornAd hominem and factually incorrect.Gnostics generally held that physical desires and attachments to the material realm, including lust, were distractions that kept the soul trapped in the cycle of reincarnation, preventing it from achieving higher consciousness. >>"existence is suffering" gets BTFO by the existence of supermorbidly obese people and people who've been wealthy their whole livesI'm gonna break down this last point into twoStraw Man"existence is suffering" isn't "no one ever feels pleasure," or "everyone is constantly miserable 24/7."It means that, for one to exist as a being with limitations and desires is to be structurally exposed to dissatisfaction, loss, decay, and unmet desire.Cherry PickingYes, fat person eat lots of food. Yes, rich person enjoy luxury thing. But both a rich fat man and a poor thin man worry the same late at night about what comes next. Both fear the future. And the few rich men who don't are in such a position because they've put others down to get there. This also ignores rich people with depression, addiction, loneliness, etc.Obese people with shame, pain, health anxiety, or compulsive eating patterns also exist.Essentially: ur cringe & wrong.
>>41526402Not really
>>41526416And yet you use... cultural attributions!!!Im very smart
>>41524097>"existence is suffering" gets BTFO by the existence of supermorbidly obese people and people who've been wealthy their whole livesI don't even have to address the rest of your post because of how retarded this part alone makes you sound. Most people are poor and miserable and obesity is demonstrative of how God makes everything harmful
>>41524097it's the most Jewish thing I've seen pushed on the Internet but losers latch onto it because it absolves them of all personal accountability for their failings
No one: BlaChristians: Waaah Waaah Waaaah
>>41526948>it's the most Jewish thing I've seen pushed on the InternetWhat is? 'Gnosticism' is a derogatory term made up by trolls like the OP that has no intelligible definition. These trolls have never read a single verse of scripture and it shows.
>>41524097It's just Vedanta, but with Brahma as some wierdo enemy instead of the manager who knows he isnt the owner.They even stole the lotus and turned it into some freaky lion snake thing.
>>41524097>>don't have kids!Why should I?>espoused by those with wishy-washy moralsSuch as yourself>>most of human history was civil enough to make little to no mention of such blasphemyInstead they worshipped jewsBecause jews are those morals you crave>>followers areBecause there are ancient gnostics in 2025, you know them>>"existence is suffering"Is a christian mantra>They kill themselvesNo, they don't.>They go insaneEvery schizo I've met was christian, disregarding the fact that mental health is made up
I'm a gnostic btw, I practice J-Horror gnosticism, and I think life isn't enough of a Nightmare still, so suck my dick
>>41527014How it functionsA hostile creator: Horror gnosticism reimagines the Gnostic Demiurge not just as an ignorant creator, but as an actively malicious, or at least indifferent, force that traps humanity in a horrifying world. This is often portrayed as a cosmic "concentration camp" with an ever-present, tyrannical ruler.The terror of true knowledge: In Gnosticism, salvation comes from gnosis, or spiritual knowledge. Horror gnosticism twists this, making the pursuit of such ultimate knowledge a source of terror, like a forbidden fruit that leads to a painful abyss rather than enlightenment. Characters who gain this knowledge may not be able to unlearn it, leading to a state of permanent dread.A horrifying reality: The universe is seen as a malevolent, indifferent, or hostile place created for its own ends, not for human happiness. This is often contrasted with the concept of a higher, benevolent god, but hints of this true god are fleeting and unreliable, providing no true comfort.
>>41524097>t hylic
>>41526996Lion head with snake behind doesnt ring a bell? Even mithra they never seem to connect the word mitra to the other...But they dont know anything
>>41526996All mystical traditions agree because they all receive from Source. To speak of cultures 'stealing' spiritual wisdom is the mark of the hylic.
>>41526996>They even stolePre-dates advaita
>>41527056>>41527059>>41527091>they seethed for he spoke the truthSource allows them to see that others had it right, and they twisted it to fight their antagonistic ways.
>>41527099Nah, your antagonism is just part of the maya. Means nothing.
>>41527059Evam parampara praptam imam rajarshayo viduh sa kaleneha mahata yogo nashta parantapaExcept if you dig you can find clear signs the tradition was one, originally, and it broke off and each developed culturally separate so now we habe these similarities. Actually the opposite is closer to truth: that people try to erase these similarities. Rabbis have tried to erase their obvious lifting from egyptian, chaldean, sumerian, persian... you dig?
>>41527099I'm atheist, your source is inexistent to meI believe it's possible to, achieve gnosis and become a God, but this isn't an ancient way of inner knowing, rather, the left hand path
>>41527106No lifting necessary. It all comes from the same source.
>>41527059>All mystical traditions agree because they all receive from SourceWe are the ones defending this truth. You just dont want to admit that source is Veda because of your racism towards indians. You are the hylic
>>41527111>tldr
>>41527119Yes, we know that. We even know the source. Thats why we are telling you, where did the other traditions drank fromImam rajarshayo viduh...
>>41527129And I care about politics because potato.Now kid, because I know you're a kid, ever gotten up from the sofa and done any discipline?
>>41527122No, the opposite. I am a great admirer of the Shankaracharyas. As I am of the Neoplatonists, Christian mystics, etc. It all comes from God, not from human cultural artifacts. You outed yourself as a hylic by profaning the One Spirit, foolishly attempting to reduce it to a mere bauble of national pride.
>>41527140>where did the other traditions drank fromFrom God directly. Not from humans.
>>41527164Krsna is God directly and we are merely quoting Him
>>41527411You're a fraud who is very far from moksha.
>>41527157>reduce it to a mere bauble of national prideBecause we defend the veda from atheists attacks such as reducing it to mere "human cultural artifact"?We cant tolerateAnd we are not even indian but why would that matter
>>41527451Your nation's sacred tradition needs less "defending" and more understanding. You clearly don't understand the first thing about what you claim to be defending. Embarrassing.
>Gnosticism is silly! >500 ai post and 700 infographicsLel
>>41524097People are hurt and simply want something to lash out at. So they think that somebody who made a sandbox is the ultimate evil, yet when they are giving the choice between freedom or peace they always choose freedom. They are spoiled children who want both worlds when it's incompatible.
>>41528221The world is inherently bad because God is bad. The proof that the world is bad is that the default condition of life is bad (starvation, exposure to elements/predators, boredom, loneliness, etc) and the things that have to be done (physically/mentally harmful labor, submission to domination/abuse/sadism, etc) to cancel out the default negative condition of life and achieve homeostasis are themselves inherently bad/negative things, such that it's impossible for most people to even achieve a neutral or stable condition of life, instead having to choose between two bad conditions. Meanwhile anything even remotely good is violently gatekept, a consistently "good" condition of life practically only exists in the realm of fantasy/imagination, and even the THOUGHT or IDEA of good conditions of life are violently gatekept, even thinking about having desirable things will cause me to be abused because the inherent nature of this world is bad, the default condition of life is bad, good things are violently gatekept, it's nearly impossible to even achieve a neutral or stable condition of life and good conditions of life only exist in fantasy.
>>41528283How do you plan to drive yourself forward without "bad"? How much of your favorite art would exist without "bad"? How would we even know and appreciate "good" without it being compared to "bad" which wouldn't exist?How would you achieve change without the "bad"? Are you only thinking like this because you yourself feel bad for others, other people who you cant control the emotions of, that no matter what you do will always find a reason to be upset at something?
>>41524232>so butthurt he has to reply to no one in particulartypical narcissistic death cultist projection
>>41528357I feel bad about my own life because my own life is bad, it's easy to find things to be upset about because like I said, the default condition is life is bad so it's full of upsetting things. I already created literally millions of dollars worth of rap music and I didn't benefit from it all so I don't know why I'm even supposed to care about "art", I would rather just not exist, the millions of dollars worth of rap music that I was forced to create that I didn't benefit from absolutely doesn't justify my suffering. Only the idea of bad would have to exist to appreciate good also, just like I can understand that my life is bad because the idea of a good life exists.
>>41528523>He feels entitled to greatness because of the art he createdWe are already starting to get to the root of the issue.
>>41524097>>"existence is suffering" gets BTFO by the existence of supermorbidly obese people and people who've been wealthy their whole livesI missed the part where that's supposed to be a counter-argument.
>>41524132your analogy is fucking retarded and you're a fucking idiot if that was your takeaway from what I saidmy point is that you don't know what the fuck you're even talking about, NIGGER.
>>41524097The only people fat "people" are btfoing are themselves, let's not kid ourselves
>>41524104Antifa is full of those same types does that make their retarded political ideologies true?
Why is reality so evil bros Is it really that onions creature behind the curtain
>>41524097>Remind me again why i keep seeing posts about this braindead ideology?we're here to make you die from seething
>>41524520>if it means the downfall and destruction of this longhoused rat race we live in.Nobody promised you anything like that. You're just a gnostic and a skeptical/cynical person.
>>41528221>simply want something to lash out atand when people post 5 green text of picrel i read it all.>I AM GOING TO CUT OFF THE DEMIURGE'S DICK AND AUCTION IT OFFshits too funny
Ah, the platonic republic! The /pol/ utopia of ascended masters! The pleromatic armchair dream! The sleep in the pleroma, surrounded by the divine light! The philosophical stone of the scholars, to reach the peak of alchemical brilliance! The higher intelligences from the upper planes ruling over the low-IQ hylic animals from below! The superhero deus ex machina who comes to save humanity! The spaceships with waifus who comes to bring sex to the incel! The capeshit movies who taught humanity about the ascended masters! Ah, how it feel to the platonist to obey and bow down to them like a good sheep, in order to dream in almight pleroma and finally find peace from inceldom, and then in the end just say......BUT I DREAM
>>41524097>followers are outcasts, losers, and contrariansAh that's why gay men have the fanciest resorts and dominate fashion & fitness.
>>41524097Not having kids is actually incredibly Christian. The OT is the only part that ever mentions having kids and then Jesus comes around and tells everyone that those things were only said because the people were too stupid for the real doctrine. He never had kids and said there was nothing wrong with choosing not to have kids.
