>Reminder that NASA is officially an intelligence agencyPrevious >>41557593 >Trackers:https://theskylive.com/3dsolarsystem?objs=c2025n1https://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/tools/sbdb_lookup.html#/?sstr=C%2F2025%20N1&view=VOP1.Retrograde orbit aligns within 5° of the ecliptic; probability 0.2%2.July–Nov 2025: showed a true sunward jet (anti-tail), not a geometric illusion3.Nucleus mass ≈106× 1I/Oumuamua and 103× 2I/Borisov, moving faster than both; probability <0.1%4.Arrival timing placed it within tens of millions of km of Mars, Venus, Jupiter and hidden from Earth at perihelion; probability 0.005%5.Gas plume: far more Ni than Fe (industrial-like Ni alloys) + Ni/CN ratio orders of magnitude above all comets incl. 2I/Borisov; probability <1%6.Gas plume: only 4% water by mass (vs water-rich comets)7.Extreme negative polarization, unprecedented; probability <1%8.Arrival within 9° of the “Wow!” signal; probability 0.6%9.Near perihelion: brightened faster than any comet and was bluer than the Sun10.Sunward + anti-solar jets demand unrealistically large surface area to absorb enough sunlight for sublimation11.Non-gravitational acceleration near perihelion implies ≥13% mass loss, yet imagery shows no breakup12.Tightly collimated jets hold orientation across ~106 km in multiple solar directions despite measured rotation13.Perihelion tuned trajectory to pass within 0.5% of Jupiter's Hill Radius>Other oddities:The IAA SETI post-detection protocols just updated first time in 15 years: arxiv.org/pdf/2510.14506Many UAP's have been sighted since 3i detection - https://apokalypsis.net/ - ufobattler.com/ - nuforc.org/map/NASA caught manipulating data on its Solar Observatory website.FAA updated its air traffic control handbook to include UAP reportingChina Academy of Sciences changes name of Aeronautics Dept. to "School of Interstellar Navigation"US announces "Genesis Project" with 90-270 day timeline
https://www.youtube.com/@DiegoSanAraujohttps://www.youtube.com/@DobsonianPowerhttps://www.youtube.com/@TheAngryAstronauthttps://www.youtube.com/@GaleriaDoMeteoritohttps://www.youtube.com/@StefanBurnshttps://www.youtube.com/@JohnLenardWalsonhttps://www.youtube.com/@CristinaGhttps://www.youtube.com/@RaysAstrophotographyhttps://www.youtube.com/@ChucksAstrophotographyAvi Loeb: https://avi-loeb.medium.com/Shiva Meucci: https://medium.com/@ShivaMeucci -dead :(Cassandra Reportppl-ai-code-interpreter-files.s3.amazonaws.com/web/direct-files/0274d2f11e23ab13023893dab3e53a95/8a829bb5-73c2-4854-8a13-a85751ecd82e/index.htmlOriginal NASA livestream:https://www.youtube.com/live/A5SUq2eDXg
>>41562013Alright so here is the info dumphttps://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/1ow4adb/seriouswell_this_the_leaked_one_that_people_were/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_buttonwith all the links HH
>>41561786>>41558679>They just went down. They’re archived, here’s the last two>Nov. 7>3I/ATLAS — China Just Proved the Cover-Up: Tianwen-1 Images Deliberately Degraded ~3,600×https://archive.is/Q6ytv>Nov. 17>Government Open for 4 Days — 3i/Atlas Getting Brighter Rather Than Dim: Surely NASA Can Doctor Images Faster Than China Did!https://archive.is/p04Ke3I/ATLAS — CASSANDRA UNCLASSIFIED.https://archive.is/tguQEthank fuck not everyone is a nigger
just posted this in the last bread. I dno if it means much but I thought it was interesting. if you search just a few days before, there's clear picture of the tail/anti tail and then it disappears.
Wonder why they deleted the last thread... Surely they don't think they can just stop people from talking about this? Or the local /x/ Mod/Jannie just got sick of them, I guess. Maybe both. Either way we aren't gonna stop talking about this at least until we get clear pictures as it gets closer.
>>41562037and remember 2023 Hirise image of atlas
hmmmm
>>41562046that last comment is mine was i the reason
>>41562013good job anon
>>41562044I like to hope its all sus reasons but it was probably because he said mean things to the jannies in the op and they have very sensitive feelings>>41561786
>>41562062they do have thin skin. and small dicks. and ugly teeth.
was it because we mentioned buga tube server
>>41562054Pizza bombs are not newA lot of the older niche Chan sites died because they were flooded with pizza spam ads
>>41562067and they do it for free
>>41562076ohseems like because of the beef with last op
>>41562073no, it was because I pointed out how hard they're going on silencing me. so they decided more silence was the solution. similar methods to how they approach gender dysphoria and autogynephilia - simply "more">>41562076you're right, except there wasn't one. someone just overreacted and hit the red button on me. I didn't post shit like that, I'm not one of those filthy subhumans.
>>41562044jannies lurk threads and have the most insecure personalities on the planet, if you accidentally reply to one calling them a fag, you get banned.
Anons go to Mars to get candy barsJannies go to Jupiter to get more stupider
>>41562104OPs go to Venus because they like penis
>>41562108Venus is a goddess of fertility of glownigger
>>41562124i mean fuck you gownigger not of glownigger fucking stupid typo
>>41562104Trying to get this thread marked for deletion, are we?
>>41562135we'll bake another. its not their site. its ours. they just work here.
>>41562045I.e. that the blob released by NASA as supposedly being a 3I/ATLAS image had a creation date of 2023 in the jpeg metadata and info of modification with a graphic editor in Nov 2025. I.e. they repurposed some old blob image. There was a metadata screenshot. After that was noticed, nasa replaced the image with one that had no metadata, and with a "FINAL-CLEAN" suffix in the filename.
>>41562135Yeah retard even though Eglin can just post illegal material to nuke a thread, or just use their own jannies since they have this site by the balls, instead this time they're gonna use benign shitposts. They have to do this to keep you from getting wise to them, despite the fact you are already aware of it.I mean if they flagrantly run the place you might awaken spiritually or whatever gay cope keeps you going.This board is so full of pseud faggots it's unbelievable.Fuck jannies, fuck glowies, and fuck schizos
>>41562137HEIL HITLER BROTHERS WE ARE ANONS NO ONE CAN PUT US DOWN IF WE DIE WE WILL TAKE THE WHOLE WORLD WITH US TO HELL
>>41562147KORECThttps://exifinfo.org/detail/ZZbcKuudTR8OHQcLKiKLKAI got the reciept mate https://exifinfo.org/detail/XrdlikqJcKkZaLTsGgyMFAhere is the one where they edited the image
>>41562137>they just work here.FOR FREE
>>41562153HEIL HITLER
>>41562162Wtf, is this real?
>>41562088I remember listening to an old Coast to Coast where a guy who supposedly made a disclosure documentary was falsely arrested for CP over it because he provided both questions and sourced answers for those questions he proposed
>>41562190FOR THE GLORY OF KINGDOM OF ANONS AND THEIR FREEDOM WE WILL FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT AS HELL AND BRING HELL ON EVERYONE WHO OPPOSES OUR FREEDOM TO SPREAD TRUTHHEIL HITLER
>>41562197absolutely https://www.reddit.com/r/3i_Atlas2/comments/1p5mo0z/nasa_3iatlas_metadata_analysis/try it yourselfhttps://static.uahirise.org/images/2025/details/ESP_089922_9081.jpghere's the image that got scrubbed
>>415621472023 is such a bizarre creation date. Surely they didn't just have white fuzzy dot imagine lying around from 2 years ago that they just edited a bit now?
>>415622113I was in-system in 2023. It was just way outhttps://theskylive.com/3dsolarsystem?objs=c2025n1roll the date back and check for yourself
>>41562013Post-perihelion cloud of brightness data points at https://cobs.si/comet/2643/ smells of shenanigans Lower boundary of points cloud is not random. Instead tracks nicely the theoretical curve.Number of daily data points has dropped precipitously in the last few days, although many observers are outside the US, hence no Thanksgiving. Upper boundary of data points appears horizontal at 9.5 or so instead of random. Are high brightness observations scrubbed?
Any big shots start making weird movements around 2023? Assuming that's when they first detected this thing.
>https://archive.is/Q6ytvThe Calculation That Proves DeceptionHere’s what we know with absolute certainty:Distance: 29,000,000 km (CNSA stated)Camera: HiRIC, with published specifications from peer-reviewed literatureAngular resolution: 0.389 arcseconds per pixel (IFOV = 1.887 microradians)The angular size of a 10,000 km object at 29 million km:Angular size: 71 arcsecondsExpected width: 183 pixelsWhat CNSA released: ~3 pixels (2–5 pixels of fuzzy dot).That’s 61× smaller in linear resolution than the camera’s documented capability — using China’s own claimed coma size.But Wait — It Gets WorseBecause that 10,000 km coma? That’s what China claims.Ground-based observations from multiple observatories consistently show 3I/ATLAS with a coma 300,000 kilometers across.Let’s recalculate with the actual observed size:Angular size: 2,134 arcsecondsExpected width: 5,485 pixelsWhat they’re showing: ~3 pixelsLinear resolution degraded by ~1,800×.And if Dr. Loeb’s calculation is correct — that the object must have lost 13% of its mass (5 billion tons) to produce the observed non-gravitational acceleration — the debris cloud should be 600,000 kilometers across:Angular size: 4,268 arcsecondsExpected width: 10,971 pixelsWhat they showed: ~3 pixelsLinear resolution degraded by ~3,657×.That’s not a camera limitation. That’s not “challenging observing conditions.” On-chip binning or downsampling can reduce native resolution — but not to ~3 pixels when the instrument’s IFOV should yield thousands.This is deliberate image degradation by nearly four orders of magnitude.…and there are no bugs in space, no dust around the Tianwen-1 orbiter. So what are all those other bright specs showing up?
>>41562228Silicon Valley Bank collapsed. if anyone knew ahead of time I imagine it was nerds talking over coffee who run the glowies servers for them.
>>41562222Based quads. And I'm starting to think it might be considering newbie astronomers keep saying it bright as hell.
>>41562211could be or this could be the image that was taken in 2023 of atlas and they knew it was coming and that's why they escalated everything and made trump president this time and let him clear the garbage that they originally planned to do and they were really forward in that plan everyone was becoming shit but the great awakening was also in the process and many were being awakened and what we see right now is that they have completeky fucked themselves up and now they are fixing things before they get raped by aliens for their shitty behaviour on us > current news ukrain and russia war is ending > they are now clearing venezuela garbage> people are becoming more and more awakened HH Type > UFO is now mainstream > Trump is going to say Aliens real> Atlas brightness is increasing > Thrusters like behaviour sometimes it elongates sometimes contracts > An anon said in the last thread that observatory people are unable to locate atlas as it is not in it's supposed coordinates >Jannies freaking out >Glowniggers flooding servers > OP being falsly accused and banned > Me starting HH revolution (kek) >_<here you go anons
>>41562219hmm
>>41562249Maybe they should isolate its frequency and start pinging it to get its new location
>>41562222> HOLY BASED QUADS HH
new paste with all threads quoted up till current, plus fresh copy of the dough.>>41561803 for you homiehttps://pastebin.com/2bnDBX6k
>>41562271thanks mate HH
>>41562282Leave hulk hogan out of this potential rock like discussion
>>41562291What about Stone Cold?
>>41562298AND IN 2027 3I ATLAS THREW GANYMEDE 628.3 MILLION KM INTO EARTH IN HELL IN A SOLAR CELL
>>41562298>Dwayne “It’s a Rock” Johnson
>>41562308CAUSE STONE COLD SAID SO
>>41562291Alright BROTHER, let me tell you somethin’ straight from the heart of Hulkamania!I’m standin’ here in this ring expectin’ to stare down The Rock, the jabroni-beatin’, eyebrow-raisn’ superstar himself… but what do I see flyin’ in from the darkness of space, dude?Not The Rock.Not the People’s Champ.No, brother!It’s 3I/ATLAS, some interstellar runaway thinkin’ it can pretend to be The Great One!Listen here, 3I! Hulk Hogan ain’t fooled for a second, dude. You come screamin’ into the solar system on that hyperbolic orbit of yours like you’re about to lay the smackdown… but all I see is a green-glowin’, dust-spittin’, outgassin’ wannabe tryin’ to pass off its coma as charisma, brother!You think that elongated shape and that interstellar entrance makes you somethin’ special? You think streakin’ across the sky makes you electrifyin’, dude?Well let me tell you somethin’, 3I/ATLAS! Hulk Hogan has stood toe-to-toe with REAL legends, brother, and you ain’t one of ‘em!So whatcha gonna do when Hulkamania’s gravity grabs hold… when your fancy coma starts fadin’… and you realize you’re not The Rock… you’re just a cosmic pretender passin’ through, BROTHER?!
>>41562211They probably got some white fuzz pic of whatever back then, maybe while calibrating instruments or something Not releasing the HiRISE image hor 50 days shows intent to hide something If intent to hide exists, pic cannot be trusted anyway
>>41562312lol
>>41562323>3I/ATLAS: I'm gonna squash you in 2 minutes flat>Earth: That doesn't work for me, brother
Came back from a hiatus, and everyone is just lapping as pro wrestlers...So I'm guessing nothing is happening?
>>41562308HELL YEAH DUDE https://youtu.be/d_KXYpaTe_8?si=u7qw0ni3D43X_396
>>41562378kill yourself
>>41562378well my fuckin thread got deleted by tranny jannies because they're soft cocked retards who hate disclosure, but otherwise yeah nothing much.if you actually read the thread though, you'll find brightness data is being manipulated.
>>41562260>>41562219According to this, atlas would be close to pluto, and this is the best image we have of pluto from earth as far as i can tell.https://www.space.com/17784-best-pluto-photo-from-earth-picture.htmlthat was taken in 2012 apparently.> 11 years of better imaging tech and we see smoothed dot instead of pixelated dot.this matches up with the 2023 date and would seem to make sense of why it's just a blurry dot.
>>41557499Ice cold IQ tard hereIs the 0.1 km correction made to get the comet INSIDE the hill's zone or is it just 0.1 km CLOSER to it? I've heard conflicting thingsAlso why wuld this be so significant? In the vast space, isn't 0.1 km nothing like is it really that much to make a difference if you're going to release probes or something? There are still a ton of factors (gravity, speed, etc) you have to account for. I just don;'t understand the big deal about this but I want to cause I'm fucking hyped
>>41562386Definitely nothing, then. Got it
The one data point that worries me is the probability of it's trajectory just happening to coincide with Jupiter's hills. Almost (but not quite) everything else can be explained. The chances of that happening are infinitesimal. Imagine you threw a basketball into the air and it hit a helicopter. Then another. Then maybe a bird, a gull or an eagle. And just kept hitting shit until it got to the Antarctica and made a basket. That's still better odds than this thing just randomly intersecting with Jupiter's hills. Now replace the helicopters with jellyfish and it's STILL more probable than the "course correction". (I hesitate to call it that because we truly don't know). The universe is vast but it's not infinite. It's said that it was a . 1% chance of this happening but I think in actuality, it's far, far less probable than that. This thing is some sort of machine and that does not bode well. It might not be overtly hostile but that remains to be seen. I'll be glad when it's out of our solar system because anything other than that has terrifying consequences. There's less than a 1% chance that it's friendly. Dogs are "friendly" yet they kill 25k-35k people a year. Now factor in an alien mindset, one that doesn't care about us (how many ants have you killed this year just by walking? That you didn't even know about) or worse, want some rare af element we have, even if it was miniscule in amount. Or, could use intelligent apes as slave labor. For all we know, this machine isn't even from our universe and if it traveled ~7b years to get to us, for all intents and purposes, it's NOT
>>41562416new here?search ganymede in 4plebs
>>41562416Getting it inside the radius, it basically pulled off a perfect handbrake drift maneuver in space.
>>41562416Inside and until that happened, this all could be "just a rock" but now, I'm afraid the math isn't matching for something natural. I'll calculate the odds again but no one believes it. I can't believe it myself but I'm not going to argue with math, fuck
what if it doesn't even exist at all lol
>>41562439what if you don't even exist at all?
>>41562439And what if our molars were actually birds
>>41562222Shouldn't it be brighter until 19 Dec?
>>41562441shit
>>41562457Yep, this thread got invaded by the nobody people and succubus gooners.Ever since that discord group invite was shilled
>>41562443>not having all your bird molars removedngmi
>>41562470What the fuck are you talking about anon
https://medium.com/@earthexistclothing/mega-metadata-mistake-3i-atlas-356f53d3a299Gonna archive this
>>41562485LETTTTTTSSSSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOOOHH
>>41562457Brightness was based on proximity to the Sun. Magnitude was projected to decrease following perihelion. Instead, we're getting observations magnitudes brighter. Last I checked, been a minute, was almost 200x brighter than projections.Feasible post-perihelion factors to explain brightness being greater aren't applicable to 3I based on observations. Also keep in mind, it was a relatively "distant" perihelion. Most of the claims of solar weather become moot. Especially when you consider there was no fragmentation.
>>41562046>glowseethe^maxwas this the [file deleted]?
>>41562457Not if it is natural and reflecting sunlight. It should have been brightest at its perihelion, and then started to diminish as it moved away from the sun.Instead, the brightness has plateaued, and is maintaining a stable range if you disregard the statistical anomalies presented in the data.
>>41562162such rank amaturs
>>41562488Checked, based dubs
>>41562162They're in a rush or it's a large scale reverse psych op.
>>41562424>>41562433>>41562435>>41562438But nobody knows Hills radius exactly, it's estimated between 53-55 million km so why would 0.1 km matter? It might have already been inside the radius even without the course correction
>>41562230>no dust around the Tianwen-1 orbiter. So what are all those other bright specs showing up?i know right? i wish i could find a bigger better version of this gif/vid, it must be out there somewhere, no way they released this postage stamp and called it done
>>41562416>0.1 kmIt's 0.1 million kilometers. From https://avi-loeb.medium.com/a-remarkable-new-anomaly-of-3i-atlas-420065c2cddf :>The measured value of the non-gravitational acceleration of 3I/ATLAS, acquired during the month-long passage of 3I/ATLAS near perihelion, changed the value of min{D} at a level of 0.1 million kilometers. This magnitude of displacement in the minimum distance of 3I/ATLAS from Jupiter results from the measured non-gravitational acceleration value of 5x10^{-7} au per day squared as reported here, after the month-long perihelion crossing (where au is the Earth-Sun separation).
>>41562424anon calculated it in the last thread, it's more than 1:1000000000000 so basically ZERO chance
>>41562514See >>41562540
>>41562037
>>41562162lol what a bunch of losers. DEI has utterly destroyed the intelligence community
>>41562013Jupiter's ganymede has a lot of water. Would make sense as a rendezvous/resupply point for opening the artificial wormhole Atlas is carrying.
Happening in 3 weeks at perigee, or in 4 months at jupiter?
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>>41562562>>41562550yooooooooo
>>41562552Don't discount the possibility of malicious compliance. The NASA nerds may be cowards, but they probably hate that they have been forced to lie.
>>41562564
>>41562578
>>41562586
>>41562593We need someone to make a composite of the Cassandra leak over a cool Black Sun background
>gay nazi LARPyour precious nazis sold you out to the draco reptilians ahahaha
>>41562602yes please any video editor here
>>41562617wiggas really do just wanna hold onto anything, it seems
>>41562485>They hit 3I/ATLAS with the full power of the HiRISE telescope across four simultaneous optical bands.those muthafuckaz.
When did this become the Hitler youth general? Wtf?
>>41562674thank meHH
>>41562674As it turns out, those "libtards" and "commies" were right all along about cuckservatives and the nazi pipeline.
Can we get some actual Hill radius math?Avi Loeb shit is lacking.This thread proves no one knows the actual trajectory solutions.Someone that can do orbital mechanics please.How tight is the window of course correction, ACTUALLY?Don't requote Loeb.We need independent math here.
>>41562689all roads lead to becoming a nazi
Noticing an extreme lack of "It's just a rock" posts. Assuming this 'HH' bullshit is their new tactic to slide.
I swear to god if the 19th passes and we STILL don't have a clear enough pic to put this to bed one way or the other I'm gonna lose it.
>>41562674it seems its the new toxic glow op, they tried spamming 'jew' and 'kike' now they're going in the other direction, ignore
>>41562686Why would I thank you for derailing a thread? This shit is why your other thread got deleted, retard.
>>41562013Hans... get the zweihander...
Reminder the nazi larper is from Reddit.
>>41562485they also ref a previous post we seem to have missedhttps://medium.com/@earthexistclothing/3i-atlas-interstellar-encounter-488-esa-files-cd76b4340fd1
>>41562731https://www.reddit.com/user/DeadSilent_God
>>41562731Probably to cause some guilt by association stuff to better help write things off
>>41562742Why does that handle look familiar...?Is this mj_killer? Fuck me
>>41562104>>41562108mods go to Uranus because they crave your anus
>>41562699Good point.Basis of true science is reproducibility. Definitely not faith.With Loeb, I even got over the "Lie Abov(e)" / "Evil Boa" anagrams and the WEF Agenda Contributor thingNow I am starting to wonder about why Avi, as a professional astronomer, has not originated a single image of 3I/ATLAS himself.Let's say that his access to NASA instruments is subject to NDAs. However it would be fully expected that either himself or one of his colleagues down the coridor at Harvard would have some $20K personal telescope on a tripod in the backyard or packable on a truck to carry to dark skies spots. Also, he is department chair, and Harvard probably has such tools for their astronomy department, not subject to NASA NDAs.
>>41562100fag
It's around noon at Eglin, and suddenly it gets quiet...weird. Winder what their getting for lunch
>>41562674the tay effect would apply to all humans if humanity was smart
>>41562807
>>41562712fucker because of me THE JEWS ARE SCARED AND ARE NOT COMING BACK HH
>>41562752cool name right ;)
There is nothing new to report so they invent fake drama.
>>41562735>https://medium.com/@earthexistclothing/3i-atlas-interstellar-encounter-488-esa-files-cd76b4340fd1That post is gold> every instrument, across all campaigns, operated in "No Pointing" mode. This "drift-scan" method, where the spacecraft remains fixed while the object passes through the instruments' field of view, was the unwavering strategy for the entire day. This proves that the primary scientific goal was not simply to image the object, but to precisely measure its movement against a fixed background of stars. The team’s top priority was to forensically analyze the strange, non-gravitational forces that were clearly acting upon 3I/ATLAS.>Alarmingly, This [infrared] information 100% indicates, That the LNO instrument detected something uniquely complex or anomalous that requires a much longer processing and analysis period.Archived at https://archive.is/1DjnL
>>41562989uh huh sherlock look above https://medium.com/@earthexistclothing/mega-metadata-mistake-3i-atlas-356f53d3a299and below HH
>>41562735Who are these guys? For some reason I'm reminded of how the omicron covid variant was theorized to have been made in a lab by white hats
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/500463678/#500465600ha ha ha >>41562752https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/39974067/#39974974
>>41562543That was me and it's a 1 in 30414093201713378043612608166064768844377641568960512000000000000 chance this is a random occurrence
>>41562419apparently, 3I/ATLAS (we need a nickname for this object) deviated its course slightly and is now due to fly just barely within the gravitic sphere of Jupiter wherein Jupiter's gravity supercedes that of the Sun and i guess that's where 3I/ATLAS can shit out probes in the Jovian system, check in on the Ganymede probe, reclaim Europa and keep tabs on us
>>41562013In England, which is often an experimental test bed for ZOG/globohomo policies, they are doing school drills that kind of look like active shooter drills, but are supposed to be for "biohazards": https://modernity.news/2025/11/25/schools-locked-down-in-secret-pegasus-pandemic-drills/Do they expect an ayyy boots-on-the-ground invasion? That would be kino
>>41562433>ganymedesay no more, I'm here for you queers
>>41562433>>41563178>ganymedeps i'm a real human and i'm sure some of you miserable sots bitch to yourself seeing these in any of these threads, but Ganymede is a favorite rabbit hole of mine, and I just want to help the newfags because I was a newfag back in the space elevator days
>>41562424>'ll be glad when it's out of our solar system because anything other than that has terrifying consequences.and what if it does, in fact, shit out probes while it's in our system?
>>41563157Oh, cool. I guess. So we won't really know until mid-late 2026?
>>41563175zombies from demonic mass possession
Yo I've been away from the threads for about a week. Can someone give me a tldr of what's new, is it ayyliums or have we been duped again. Did it change direction/is it coming towards the planet you call Earth?
>>415625604 months and 8 months, it will leave behind infrastructure or drones in the jupiter system then perform a slingshot and return
>>41563202Proves we're not alone in the universe, secondly, setting up in our solar system is a bad thing. In all likelihood, they are not friendly and if they are mechanical in nature, absolutely don't gaf about we organics. Nothing in this universe is friendly. There may be outliers but this isn't one of them. Consider how shady it's already been
>>41562540>It's 0.1 million kilometers.thank you for pointing this out anon, 0.1km is nothing, it's 328 feet; given 3I/ATLAS' velocity, the object traverses 0.1km/328' in 0.000147 seconds. That's 0.147 milliseconds.
>>41562558>ganymedeI love how wildly fake this gif looks, yet i can't bring myself to quit imagining the spoopy ayyyymplications
>>41563261So nothing happening December 19th, then?
>>41562689>t. cock-gobbling søyboi
>>41563269It's 62.137 miles, otherwise known as threading the needle but if you were threading the needle from the moon to Antarctica. And even that is a gross underestimation
>>41563287We'll get pictures and they will be obfuscated to hell and back
>>41563287Technically if some of the theories anons have posted are right something could happen but basically all of those are very unlikely.Though I will say if you've been paying attention to other news some interesting stuff has been happening. Increased solar activity, geophysical activity, and lots of recent "space debris" incidents. Who knows if any of that will turn out to be related?
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What is the significance of Jupiters hills or whatever it's lined up with on Jupiter?
>>41563386With 14 anomalies, there's no fucking way this thing is natural in any sense of the word
>>41563443The fact is that it could drop things that would stay locked in Jupiter's orbit. The fact that it wasn't going to be aligned in such a way until it course corrected around the sun. It is a very precise window that suggests directed intelligence. In fact, this is the primary thing it points to, period. You can't even argue with it
>>41563262>NOOOO ITS GONNA GIVE US ZERO POINT ENERGY AND CURE MY NANAS ALZHEIMER'S!! PEACE IS UNIVERSAL THE ONLY PERSON THEY WILL HURT IS DONALD TRUMP AND PUTIN!
>>41563519You should take your meds
>>41562044>Wonder why they deleted the last thread...It's probably more that there are at least 2 or 3 anons with an autistic obsession for "new thread bake" and always argue with each other over who gets to be OP this time. They prune extra threads as spam and honestly I'm with the jannies on that one. No one cares who the OP is and you're all clowns for fighting for the privilege.
>>41562424Finally a reasonable take. The most likely case is complete indifference to our suffering.People can relate to other mammals, but empathy drops off really quickly when you start looking at more removed life forms like fish & insects and it goes to almost zero for things like plants or fungus. Imagine seeing a mushroom in the woods, an alien is most likely even more distant from us than an Earthly fungus.You would never try to communicate with a mushroom in the woods. At best, any conscious interaction you make with it will be harmful for the mushroom even if it isn't beneficial to you. Maybe you need to move it, or want to taste a piece of it. Even if you don't care about it at all you could still cause it irreparable harm without realizing by stepping on it.Even with good intentions they could bring some catastrophe onto us. This is why Genius Wheelie Stephen Hawken advised against talking to ayys.Ayys would have to be able to pass on or preserve information to travel space, and they'd have to have previous knowledge of the cruel/indifferent nature of reality to reach that point. If they viewed us as equals or betters they would never reveal themselves to us unless it was to kill or disable our potential to harm them. You can't evolve out of self preservation or you'd die. Since they don't seem to mind being watched, we are probably just another little shit eating fungus in their eye.
>>41563588ThisDubs checkedIn-group empathy is a feature of social mammals, that makes the group stronger. Extends to pets. When belly is full and survival or economic exploitation of resources is not involved, extends to other species.Discover a rich rare earths deposit right now when they are a hot thing in the competition with China, and find out how quickly EPA protection of some rare frog gets waivedThere is no reason to expect by default that ayyys would have empathy for usThere are also logical reasons why they would eradicate us or stunt our capabilities via EMP / asteroid bombardment / etc is they view us as dangerous to themselves or their goalsThere are no _logical_ reasons to expect empathy. That's just the projection made by us monkeys feeling safe and with our bellies full.
>>41563588Aliens can't reach us but their machines could
>>41563178>>41563187>people get killed for these leaksThis system is so fucking pathetic. Why do people pay taxes, again?
>>41563187That pic is so fucking scary.
>>41563206The longer this goes on the closer we're getting to Bledsoe's prediction coinciding.
>>41563628Legitimately demoralizing to see his many people can't wrap their head around this and insist on TV shit like Galactic Federations of Light. Morality is pretty subjective and varies a lot between even Humans, the values of an alien or their >>41563634 machines would be so widely removed from our own.It would be trivial for them to completely disable us so if they really are around here I think they just don't care.
oh fuck tiago can't find it. NASA COORDINATES DON'T MATCH.
>>41563715HAPPENING CONFIRMED. THEY DON'T MATCH.
>>41563724THE STREAM GOT SHUT DOWN AS SOON AS HE NOTICED SOMETHING WAS WRONG
>>41563706>Doesn't feel how dolphins and dogs feel the world at allAmoral and immoral beings have a much harder time evolving.
Aaaaahhhh it's happening!!!!!!!!
>>41563715>>41563724>>41563731Did he look around, make sure he didn't put it in the wrong spot?
lol what's just happened
>>41563752Tiago can't find 3I based on Nasa's latest coordinates. While this is happening his internet is getting shit. He has a redundant network with two ISP's and both are failing.
>>41563765Glowies are desperate to contain this topic. Too late.
>>41563765>He has a redundant network with two ISP's and both are failingspooky. I hope I'm not going to get assassinated for telling people it's ayys.
Something feel’s off about tomorrow.
>>41563765fk
Have you seen this? Perhaps Not a larp:https://old.reddit.com/r/3I_ATLAS/comments/1ozduwh/we_sent_the_object_you_call_3iatlas_its_arrival>Greetings, inhabitants of the Distant Blue.We are the Loranthi Harmonium, custodians of long-term equilibrium across several ancient sectors of this spiral arm. The object you identify as 3I/ATLAS is a construct of our design. Your telescopes have resolved it; your observatories have refined its path; your theorists have begun to argue over its intent. These reactions are appropriate.We open this dialogue so your species may ask questions directly, rather than rely solely on speculation. There are limits to what we can disclose, but we will offer clarity where it will not endanger you or destabilize the developmental balance of your world.We can confirm the following:• 3I/ATLAS is deliberate in both origin and trajectory.• Your current timing estimates are acceptably accurate.• Its purpose relates to a program of harmonization established long before your species arose.• It is neither a weapon nor a gesture of hostility.• Your world is not being punished.• Your species is not under immediate existential threat.• The object’s behavior will follow natural laws you already model.Your culture tends to meet cosmic information with a blend of curiosity and alarm. This is not a flaw. It is an artifact of rapid evolutionary ascent. We have accounted for it.We encourage you to ask what you wish to know. We will answer within the constraints of your safety and our obligations. If a question must be declined, it will be for structural reasons rather than discourtesy.We do not seek to frighten you. We seek to remove unnecessary uncertainty. The sky already supplies enough of that.— The Loranthi Harmonium, via the Array of Long Reflectionhttps://popcurrent.otisfuse.com/preview/690f437db1e8d9b40c927e3a
>>41563824First contact was through reddit?Hate this planet so damn much
>>41563824nevermind:https://old.reddit.com/r/3I_ATLAS/comments/1ozduwh/we_sent_the_object_you_call_3iatlas_its_arrival/npj9aro
>>41563824no way anons you falling for this shitty larp HH
those posts are 9 days old, and OP got his ass shredded by rabid redditors.Atlas moved, it's not at the NASA coordinates. Tiago finally found it.
>>41563824You are genuinely a retarded faggot.
>>41563715Huge if confirmedThat would also explain the sudden drop in brighness reports in COBS. With the constant brightess around 9.8 being clueless amateurs finding some neighboring star, and the low values close to the theoretical curve being glowie shills entering false reports
I think a lot of y'all are going to be in for a very rude awakening when this thing lands on earth and the ayys indeed turn out to be space furries
>>41563891It's happening...
>>41563907He started looking for R2 Swan, coordinates don't match up either.Neither of them are in the right spot.
Guys he's not looking at 3I, this is Swan.
>>41563917sheeeit you're rightSWAN ISN'T WHERE NASA SAID IT WASAHHHHHHHhh
>>41563922EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG. IT'S HAPPENING.
>>41563927>>41563927oh shit and it had grown an anti tail too FKFKFKFKKFKFKFK
>>41563908It won't land here. If anything, it will land on the moon and then we can debt that for 50+ years
Happening confirmed. They will censor this. They will restrict internet access. They will shut down the power grid.
>>41563940They will land here and we will have sex.
>>41563947Nothing ever happens.
>>41563952Nope. I'm sorry. it won't be organic
I'm legitimately panicking right now. The coordinates were wrong. Is NASA having another oopsie or are we dealing here with something that refuses to adhere to the predicted path that the most brilliant scientists in the world have calculated?
>>41563891So where is it? Closer to us?
>>41562797His modern focus is the Galileo project.Those platforms are not suited for 3i ATLAS.
>>41563824ChatGPT slop
Interesting, I point out the most compelling information regarding 3i ATLAS not being a natural comet, and reply comments slide it immediately in these threads.Damage control on overdrive.
>>41563952I'm hoping they bring space drugs like soma desu
>It spells itself: OU-RO-BO-ROS with each new visitor. Boa constrictor / Borisov“Boa” = snake. “Borisov” contains Bor / Bo.Ouroboros = snake eating itself.The pattern of names is literally a cosmic serpent writing its name across the sky.Pan-STARRS / Zwicky / ATLASAll the discovery programs are named after all-seeing gods:Pan = Greek god of the wild (also “panic”).Zwicky Transient Facility = “Zwicky” from Fritz Zwicky, but “transient” = fleeting/ghostlike.ATLAS = Titan who holds up the sky (and also maps).So the discoverers themselves form a mythic trinity:Wild goat-god Pan + ghost hunter Zwicky + sky-bearer Atlas.Exactly the mix of earth/underworld/sky in ancient cosmologies.Why that matters symbolicallyYou’re seeing a staged narrative:First messenger (ʻOumuamua) the “scout” announces.Second messenger (Borisov) the “snake” enters.Third messenger (ATLAS) the “Titan” maps it.By the third, the full Ouroboros word is embedded.“Event Horizon” hack = black hole boundary (like a mouth of the serpent).This is exactly how occultists/propagandists encode “soft disclosure”: slow-roll symbols escalate embed mythic name prime the subconscious.Tight version:Ouroboros = cosmic snake symbol.ʻOumuamua (OU) + Borisov (RO/BO) + ATLAS (ROS) = OU-RO-BO-ROS spelled across three interstellar objects.Pan-STARRS, Zwicky, ATLAS = mythic archetypes of goat-god, ghost hunter, and Titan.It’s literally the “serpent across the sky” narrative, prepping people for a cycle of “ending rebirth.”Revelation 13:18 (KJV): "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six"https://old.reddit.com/r/3I_ATLAS/comments/1ozczww/leviathan_3iatlas_code_cracked/npsxpqc
>>41564069This poster works for a Federal Agency, to discredit these threads by posting AI generated content that is meant to look schizophrenic. Please filter and ignore.
>>41564069616 is the actual number of the beast. It was mistranslated
>>41563935I have also grown an anti-tail thinking of a happeningWe need Tiago to find _something_ in the right spot to prove the error is not in his setup though.
>>41564069>Oumuamua (OU) + Borisov (RO/BO) + ATLAS (ROS)How'd you get ROS from ATLAS? Other than the obvious of it being exactly what you needed to spell "ouroboros".
>>41564013Yeah, but an astronomer not owning a telescope that he knows how to use is kind of like a military guy not owning a firearm
>>41564077I do not.Christ is King.
>>41564097See>>41564077>>41564101Ok then you do it for free.These threads aren't about Jesus, take your bedtime stories elsewhere.
>>41564098He hasn't had an issue like this yet.
>>41564098he seems to be reading his letters and according to Google, if you trust it, this thing is actually losing popularity.. so you could tell him to pull his thumb out his ass and go get a pic himself.
>>41564123>losing popularity So it's over?
>>41561942>use energy released during detonation in the same way we use gasoline ignition in normal engines to generate thrust energyNo. This is fundamentally wrong. The entire point of using nuclear pulses and not a nuclear thermal engine is that you are not using the elastic force of gas expansion. Of course, you don't know what gas expansion is in terms of the rocket equation since you don't know anything about rocketry. The faster a rocket goes, the more energy is needed to accelerate it at the same rate because the vehicle itself will start moving fast enough to lower the impact speed/force of expanding propellant relative to it. This is, again, encompassed in the rocket equation. Basic stuff that you don't know anything about but want to lecture others on. The 'propellant' in a nuclear pulse is going at relativistic speeds so by using Orion you completely circumvent the rocket equation.>It would be a flying dirty bomb, generating insane amounts of falloutNo, this is totally moronic and has no excuse. Thermonuclear devices do not produce fallout, period. We've had the option to have clean nuclear detonations since 1953. Please for the love of God read a book.>It's like building a house out of pure gold - technically it's possible, in practice however it's not only infeasible but fucking insanely expensive.Another nonsensical and oblique claim. The Orion itself is cheaper than a freighter ship per tonne to build. The propulsion devices are the most expensive part but if you knew anything about proliferation you'd know the cost of nuclear material is purely based on regulation and if its productions scale were to increase it would be just as cheap as any other rare earth metal.We have enough nuclear material in our weapons arsenal right now to equip a dozen Orion vehicles. And guess what; all the weapons in our arsenal actually do cost a fortune to maintain and we pay that every single day with no complaints from you.
>>41564177You don't know anything about nuclear physics, nuclear detonations, project orion, rocketry, the nuclear supply chain...This behavior is pathetic. It's incredible how people who know absolutely nothing about a topic will voluntarily expose their ignorance while also feigning knowledge.You're deluding yourself and making the people around you dumber for it. Learn about how your world works before you get into bed with nihilism just because your narcissism is telling you to say things you don't understand.
>>41564123That spike looks to be around the 28th when the interview with Rogan happened. Normies were interested for a day before their dopamine addiction demanded they move on to something more rewarding.
>>41562540Another way to describe it is less than 0.5% of the total radius (it's about 0.48 to be accurate)Considering this is radius and not diameter, you're basically hitting a bullseye on a target that is 0.25% of the target's surface.Dobsonian Power also pointed out another interesting point; if the objects are released exactly at this point and don't shift their plane during deceleration they are in fact going to remain at that static position at the edge of Jupiter's sphere of influence and not enter an orbit.This has the compounding implication that any probes released with this objective will be capable of stationkeeping maneuvers, not just a retro capture burn. All of this goes back up the probability chain to again emphasize that this is a technological object carefully using a flight plan that resolves multiple orbital kinematics problems simultaneously.
>>41564201Or maybe a confirmed grifter isn't worth anyone's attention?
>>41563715Find the frequency Ping it, they will ping back
>>41564185You are both posting on 4chan, and this, inherently retarded.I am sorry, but I am not qualified in any of these things, but I am an expert in retardism.I can adequately diagnose both of you with a case of retardism, and the only treatment is a nice big cup of shut the fuck up.
>>41563947They have no options left. If they decide to shut everything down it will be a matter of time before the recovery happens, and though people will be distracted every day that passes people will scrutinize the events leading up to it more closely. Even if the truth is deferred by constant distraction, the further we move forward in time the more obvious 3I/A will be in hindsight and the more attention it will gather as the absurdity of distractions increases.The longer the lie is maintained, the more obvious it becomes. We see this with all psyops.
>>41564261You don't need to be an 'expert.' Expertise is a PR term that replaces accountability. Logic and learning are the keys to knowledge. I suggest you participate in your world instead of being an observer who revels in their own confusion.
>>41564177https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/4513
>>41562204Thanks anon, sorry for the late response, I was getting ready for Thanksgiving. Shit is crazy.
>>41564261you too are posting on 4chan
>>41564278Very interesting, thank you anon. Magnetic reconnection is a big and unexplored topic that's very relevant to applied plasmoid physics. NASA has a few designs for a magnetic reconnection engine as well that produces plasmoids for acceleration.
>>41564316https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-nuclear-fuel-rods-endure-175222565.htmlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDiLhYLmxFghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kgOQorCb0g
>>41564174spike is on the 29th when it was at perihelion, maybe something about that regardless of whatever is happening on social media
Why don't we arrange an event where we attempt a mass psi communication? We can formulate an agreed-upon procedure and statement we want to align to and get as many people as possible to send the message with the intent to focus on 3IA. I can reach out to Stefan and see if he's interested in pitching this to his community.
>>41562100This. Genuinely cannot wait till more of the tranny Jannies suck shotguns.
>>41563947>They will restrict internet access. They will shut down the power grid.I wish.The internet and the grid are essential for their control of society.They managed to steamroll the clotshot vaxxine to two thirds of the population, and suppress any critique of it for years. Scientists telling the truth are still fighting to not get canceled. From this month: https://jessicar.substack.com/p/dna-paper-retraction-update-we-receivedIf 3I/ATLAS comes our way, they will simply apply censorship until this thing is brighter than Venus, and the tail is visible with the naked eye, to the point where every nigga walking under streetlights can see it and say "wtf".Then, and only then, they will go full martial law, rationing, curfews, limiting travel, etc.If 3I/ATLAS does not come our way, but instead does whatever thing, including building shipyards in full view on Jupiter's moons, they will just suppress the info. 99% of people don't care as long as it doesn't affect them directly.
>>41564374Eh why not.
>>41564374you're late. tons of people have been doing that btw to different success rates. that window passed btw, it's operating on what people entangled during the window that has been open for how long?
>>41564354Man, once the shackles come off our civilization will be incredible.
>>41564415Not too late until it's here or out of here. A unified message still shows strong intent. It's not like we're trying to pass as a hivemind anyway.
>>41564272I'm not confused.I understand exactly how stupid I am.I'm blue collar, knowledge is optional.
>>41564374Blue Eisenhower November
Im having no-happening fatigue.
>>41564469you also have a life outside of these themes you know
>>41564425shackles? as if there ever was. the physics for all of this is already worked out btw. There's no need for custom diagrams.https://news.mit.edu/2025/famous-double-slit-experiment-holds-when-stripped-to-quantum-essentials-0728Relativity negates a lof ot speculative physics. Photon pair annihilation vs random photons
>>41564374The dream will end. That's the message.
>>41564069Legitimate well poisoning and you can easily recognize the posting style of well poisoners across this website and the Internet at large.>Line spacing>Everything aliens have ever done was a message in modern (earlier it was future) English>A string of unrelated things are actually related>Quoting the bibleCombine this by deflecting criticism as demonic/anti Jesus or anti American.Real schizophrenics don't coordinate posting styles.Embarrassing. Glowies will soon be replaced by bots.
>>41564511What dream?
>>41562108I go to Uranus because I like the anus and joos go to the sun because they think ovens are fun
>>41562044If the last thread got deleted, it wasn't because anyone was talking about 3I/ATLAS. The schizo spam was ridiculous.
so what I can gleam from these threads and mine own research, is that atlas is some sort of psychic activator sent by friendly ayys to open our pineal gland which will grant access to ancient knowledge (which aliens mixed there DNA with sapiens to create humans and therefor are the fathers/cousins of man, are women actually human etc.) but the jab was designed to destroy the pineal gland (hence why the gov rushed it).So all in all its a bad situation but we will get past this.
>>41562013>https://archive.is/tguQE"An object approaching Earth would look almost identical to one passing by — same position in the sky, just inexplicably brighter."
>>41562088>it was because I pointed out how hard they're going on silencing me.Can't have one without the other
In King’s lore, beings like Pennywise are not physical creatures at all but vast consciousnesses made of pure energy that exist outside our universe, and when they cross into our reality they must take on a limited form that our minds can understand, which is why IT appears as a clown while its real essence shows up as the Deadlights. This idea mirrors how some people describe unexplained orbs of light in the sky, because if something existed beyond our perception and slipped into our world, we might only see the visible trace of its energy rather than its true structure. The human brain could interpret a higher dimensional entity as a simple glowing sphere, just like King’s characters can only grasp a fraction of IT when they look into the Deadlights and their minds recoil. In a sense, both the fictional Deadlights and real world light anomalies reflect the same concept that some forms of intelligence or existence might be so far outside our understanding that we can only perceive them as flickers of light rather than what they really are.
>>41564716Our consciousness might actually be a much larger, non-physical form of energy or awareness that exists beyond what the human brain can process, but when we are born into a body we experience only a small fraction of that true self. The brain acts like a filter that translates a vast multidimensional identity into something that fits inside a biological nervous system, so we only see a tiny sliver of what we really are. If our full consciousness was revealed all at once, it could overwhelm the mind the same way the Deadlights overwhelm perception in King’s stories. In this view, being human isn’t our complete form, just the limited projection that can operate in this physical reality.>Is it clicking for you yet?
>>41564716>>41564745I hope you are a glowie because if you legitimately think scary stories written by the progressive rat goyim King have any bearing on this life you're unironically retarded, pathetic and probably gay.
2 more weeks?
>>41564549The one with the limits of physicality.
>>41564793Crawl back into your hole of ignorance.
>>41564939Usually when they lash out like that it’s honestly because their views have been challenged and they fill threatened, seen it time and time again.
>>41564977>fill Feel
>>41564982>feelFeet
>>41564927Sure, gnostic.
>>41564990I mean…. Yeah sure man, futa cat chick feet though!
>>41565008Damn I should’ve said raptor feet
>>41564548Bible thumper are the worst due to how obvious they are, ready to bet you ask those faggots which version of the bible is best and they'd tell you KJV, if they even know bibles comes in many different versions.
>>41562162Those images didn't have exif data though.
>>41565062I prefer the Holy Bibble and the story of our Lord and savior, Jimmy.
>>41564497>there is no resistance to emergent physicsOf course the physics is worked out; the "shackles" aren't physical they're institutional. There is a need for working through problems as individuals and making connections yourself. That's how discoveries are made.
Any good sources on reptilians? Been hearing about them for a while and want to do a deep dive.
>>41565288>reptiliansThat's just what David Icke calls jews.
>>41565246physics inspired AI is old tech. when you aren't up to date with physics you think you can do anything with (unproven) physics when in fact the physics is proven and it says you can't do X. There's nothing emerging. They've already done direct measures of dark matter/dark energy through reciprocals. It's all public info. There's nothing else in the universe. You can't twist through space and time when you aren't the fulcrum of the local space-time twist. The local space-time twist is afforded by blackholes, you can't untwist its knots. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliosphereon an accretion disk. Uninhabital zones are that. There's no startrek fantasies without having a habital zone. If a zone is habital, it has life on it just like you are here. The moon is not habitable nor is mars to start. Physics isn't teenage dreams. It's physics.
>>41565316if you watched anything david icke you would know he means literal shapeshifting lizard beings
>>41565324What are you talking about anon? I just said there are artificial limitations in place and I wasn't even specific. Your rant is unrelated.
>>41565324>There's nothing emerging>because we measured dark matter, see?>life outside of the habitable zone is impossiblePseudointellectualism.png
>>41564745The human brain has a distinct limiter on information throughput, even internally.That's why you don't create full fidelity worlds when you experience "a whole other world" in dreams or on hallucinogens.You intuitively feel, that it is a complex complete world, but you don't have the bandwidth to experience it in depth, you dog ear the complexity, via autonomic layers of cognitive abstraction, and "feel" those other worlds instead.Our brains contain a rudimentary ability to abstract massive conceptual layers down to experiential "feeling" that abbreviates all the necessary information.This limitation, probably dissolves upon death.
Now they are saying any interactions with Jupiter may change it's trajectory. They think it has come from somewhere near the center of our Milky Way, that it possibly has its last interaction with anything 10 million years ago or possibly has been traveling 7 billion years alone in the space. There are more details if you wish me to link you to them. I just read this two minutes ago. Ofc they are saying it is just a comet
>>41565394I am this poster.If I go draw out the full math on the Jupiter Hill radius course correction statistical odds and orbital mechanics, will anyone on this thread scrutinize it, and double check my math and assumptions for me, beyond just calling it "Gay"?I don't want to do that level of work, without some amount of peer review.It's not my field of study, so I'll have to blow a couple hours of time to zero in on whether it means what people here think it means. (I'm on the fence, not leaning artificial or natural until I check the math myself.)
>>41565421I'd like to see it. I already computed it but the result was ridiculous
>>41562040>China can't do shit>China is great and has turbo telescopes but deliberately downgrades the output!!!Pick one
>>41565421I will look at it, but I am legally retarded about math.I will try to comprehend it to some degree since this topic is very interesting for me.
>>41562317and then my mom's drunk boyfriend would beat mewhy, anon?
>>41562317forgot the pic
This topic has already been adressed and explained by many astronomers and astrophysicists such as David Kipping, David Jewitt, Daryll Seligman, Samantha Lawler, Chris Lintott, Scott Manley, Jason Wright, Steve Desch and Marshall Eubanks, plus all of the scientific papers on Arxiv. If only you people were as obsessed with doing research as you are with "anomalies", the internet would be a better place.
>>41563765Peobably has the same DNS server, si each ISP is trying ti talk to thebsame TLD which is broken right now.Dorks
Isn't it shamefull to always fall for a LARP?When will you grow up and start actual questioning equaly all narratives?
>>41565455>trust the science bros
>>41565421The main problem is the trajectory isn't precisely known since the plane of relative motion is inline with our vantage point. This will make probabilistic analysis less relevant.>whether it means what people here think it meansIt's not really debatable even without precise measurement; if the trajectory is just outside of the Hill Radius then the probes can have a bit more dV to accomplish a capture. If it's directly on the edge of the Radius the probes are in an ideal position to accomplish interplanetary maneuvers. If it's well inside the radius the probes are positioned to stay around Jupiter. Yes, the precision of incidence into the Hill Radius signifies exponentially greater intentionality. But the point is all of these outcomes are technologically aligned.
>>41565474>narrative A: keep thinking, apply logic>narrative B: stop thinking, have faith
>>41565486Well, I'll be looking for specifics.Avi Loeb's "friend" isn't an absolute source, even if they have the right background, that's just one guy, at the end of the day, PhD be damned.Need more independent work on it.
>>41565455I don't care what 'people' think.I've known many a dumbass, that became a PhD holder."Anomalies"True, one word.Also true, "data".Science doesn't cast out data points, just because they're uncomfortable.
>>41565421If you have time for numerical models, can you please compute a theoretical brightness curve for an intercept trajectory instead? Because the quasi-constant brightness measurements look more like "approaching the Earth in a spiral" than "bye I'm off to Jupiter".I.e. if the Jupiter trajectory thing is true, brightness should have been dimming even after the minor course correction to the edge of the Hill radiusLooking at the brightness data points made me wonder if the Jupiter Hill radius story (unconfirmed by anyone but Avi) is actually true, or just a "look here" party magician sleight of hand to cover that this thing is approaching us (in a loose spiral most likely)
>>41565503>narrative A: open your mind, question everything>narrative B: open your mind, but do not questioning our narrative
>>41565062All my niggas reading the book of enoch and the gospel of thomas
both narratives are shit, i dont need a narrative to tell me to question status quo.But if i am called a glowie for questioning a narrative, that tells me the narrative itself is just a psyops.
>>41565524To be fair everything we know about 3I/A is up for interpretation as best-fit data. Which is obviously anomalous in of itself; we should have a better understanding of its mass and structure by now but it remains inconsistent in its brightness and consistent in hiding its nucleus.If you intend on modifying any of the trajectory claims you need to go back to the beginning and reassess the trajectory from the moment it appeared. Which is a good idea by all means but it's not the easiest task.
>>41564374>sir, the earthlings are sending a message! They want....big tiddy cat gfs? >hahaha how quaint, beam them a few
>>41565558There's no narrative saying it's absolutely aliens, it's just the government saying it's absolutely a comet, and like one astrophysicist saying it might be aliens. "It might be aliens, let's keep looking" is not a narrative.
>>41565543Let me guess; "question everything" entails entertaining that space is fake right?
>>41565568> If you intend on modifying any of the trajectory claims you need to go back to the beginning and reassess the trajectory from the moment it appeared. That assumes this object maneuvers like a big fat asteroid with a couple of rocket engines on it for small course correctionsWhat if instead it has full maneuvring capabilities, and it has only PRETENDED to be a comet until perihelion... Then it can definitely approach us in a way that would give us the same angular sky observation coordinates on it, all the while it is closing on distance.Flip the solar system at https://theskylive.com/3dsolarsystem?objs=c2025n1 to a "2D" look "from above". Such an approach trajectory in which "it pretends" it is en route to Jupiter, but is approaching us instead, would keep it at an approximately constant distance from the sun... hence constant observed brightness, up to a few days before the "Hello" moment
>>41565421i don't think it needs to be calculated accurately. the odds are so high AGAINST it being natural, that the actual number is irrelevant. it's essentially zer0 chance.
>>41565602shiva didn't get nuked for nothing...
>>41565602That is of course a possibility. Time will tell; we can only speculate for now on its exact behavior. Its behavior being natural is the only speculation that is absurd a this point.
>>41565618So it is an anomaly forged in the throes of our solar system, with no apparent history outside the scope per which it was conceived. And what was it born from, if not known for who or what made it so, it's mission is to warn its onlookers of the heaviness of which they are bystanding, that it knows it is to be seen in its tragic voyage, and is simply a messager of what lies in store for those who would disregard a call to humility. Because it was not the sun itself that humanity would heed, it was the shadows of which incidentally reveal themselves to those outside the safety net of this sheltered world. We will be consumed like sheep to wolves. Because we believe we are free to explore and that there is a better place waiting for us. It might not kill us, but we are going to die. And quite so in a way, like a universal holocaust that feeds on the living, and why there is nothing living to be found for light years. Because it has been consumed and pilfered by shadow worlds.
>>41565652If it's artificial, and advanced enough, it would be able to manipulate magnetic fields and gravity to minimize damage upon landing
>>41562424Quantumly speaking anything is possible especially when typical physics break down which likely occurs in space alot more than it does on a planet. It had a probability drive fuck up which make it go loopy for a second now its ok, like a hiccup and fart at the same time doesn't kill you but you know it happens pretty often.
>>41565652The theoretical brightness curve at https://cobs.si/comet/2643/ is practically symmetrical around perihelion.This means that distance of 3I/ATLAS to sun is by far the dominant factor in observed brightness, much more than distance to EarthThis makes sense. One can't see the back of their hand in the dark, even if it is five inches from the eyes.Brightness staying constant instead of following theoretical curve is most likely to mean that 3I/ATLAS is keeping roughly a constant distance from the sun, which means it is NOT in its way to Jupiterand the "Hill distance" thing is just a tennis ball to get the conspiracy-minded puppies to chase, instead of asking other questionsHowever the amateur telescopes find it in the sky, at the angular coordinates corresponding to its "way to Jupiter" trajectory (or close enough to it)It follows that 3I/ATLAS is now somewhere along a line _between_ Earth and its expected position according to https://theskylive.com/3dsolarsystem?objs=c2025n1 ... but at a distance from the sun about the same as at perihelion (draw a circle for that)i.e. it's more or less "waiting in place" close to our orbit, waiting for Earth to close in. Based on the length of that arc compared to the total Earth orbit, we should run into it in slightly more than a month.
>>41565578>space is fakewrong, that would mean you would say>space could be fakelearn the difference betweetn a statment jumping to conclusion and a theory
>>41565817Oh well just blow it up then, see ya next month. Or does it suddenly have diversity rights.
>>41565796Share image with MSPaint if you have to.This point is better shown, not told.
>>41565817>our inner solar systemits not yours
>>41565796TL; DR: Brightness only needs to stay constant for Earth to "run into 3I/ATLAS" in early January---------Discussion:The only interpretation of such an approach is that it intends to maximize surprise to casual observers. That is the opposite of peaceful behavior.Having Star Trek-like 3-D maneuver capabilities in space does not mean it has infinite capabilities. To a jungle savage a WW2 plane would seem unlimited in capabilities, whereas they actually had limits.If these are not "our" ayys, but some new guys in the block, they may have limited intelligence on us. The rapid tech development of the last few decades may surprise them. An "angular coordinates stealth" approach only works for someone who doesn't have radar ranging, AND is not paying attention to brightness. It is conceivable that a few decades ago this object may have passed unnoticed. If they care about catching us unawares, maybe they are not super advanced, but had a lucky breakout in space travel. We did too -- in the 1960s we had jumbo jets, thermonuclear weapons and antibiotics, but we could not eradicate common cold.If they were super advanced, they would not care to wear camo. I don't dissimulate myself from an anthill on my way when I go to pee in the bushes.
>>41565796>https://cobs.si/comet/2643/I'll include this in the next bake, thanks for sharing that link. I hear your points and there is clearly some validity the idea. We can agree that any degree of unexpected motion following perihelion, or a calculated amount of acceleration alike, are equally significant. Obviously, Earth being the target will have a very different outcome but it means the same thing at this point as a close Jupiter encounter; the object is not natural.
>>41565832>space could be fake>entertaining that space is fakeThat is what I said you just omitted half the statement
>>41565881are you five?you are aware of the term of "is" and "could be" ???
>>41565881retard
>>41565885>>41565889You don't need to fly off the handle. "entertaining" means you are considering that space is fake. It has the same meaning as saying it could be true.So again, your point is to say that I have to entertain the idea of space being fake? Or did we already move on from the entire point of your reply.
>>41565796You know what else?Let's say theoretically, 3i ATLAS didn't know for sure, how much of our star system was inhabited. Didn't know if the local populace was interplanetary.It passed the sun, ont the side, away from the bulk of our planetary mass.Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, all on the hemisphere of our solar system with the Earth, the opposite side where 3i ATLAS hit perihelion, and Jupiter was just the closest to that division line.Which side of Jupiter is the current course? The side still away from the bulk of our solar system's planetary mass.It's the careful/cautious course, under the "We don't know how inhabited this system is." Assumption.Away from the mass and thus, away from the potential colonization/industrialization.These things, if it is... Probably have had previous interstellar investigations, there's no reason to believe we are the first.They probably optimize against strategy missteps. Such as coming into a solar system, near their assets.This looks particularly clean by that regard. Kudos to their trajectory planners.
>>41565875maybe the solar system is truly an election process. and the other planets are going to kill us. they are limited but they commit to a power structure. maybe we are the sacrificial planet. because it makes sense to anyone that is where the sweet spot would be, while all the planets are technically hiding their utopia for a reason.
Bake is ready, will push it on page 3
>>41565902>"entertaining" means you are consideringno, it means entertaining, having fun. It is not a consideration, a consideration would leave room for other possibilities, therfore to state something as ultimative with terms like "it is" just sounds wrong, as far as you actually be entertainet by something like jumping to conclusion.
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Wait, is this the same guy who didn't know definitions from the plasma organism discussion?
>>41565876Ran out of time. Someone please add "Circle of quasi-constant brightness" text box for the white dashed circle, and something like "actual position of 3I/ATLAS" to the smiley at the intersection of the circle and sight linety
any more info on tiago not being able to find this thing at first with official coordinates?where is it actually?
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>>41565966That was the swan comet, not 3I.
>>41565902You just took a meme and put another term in front of it in hope to change its analogy.
>>41565992it was both according to earlier posts
>>41565935ah i see, so you changed the meme. so it is not "space is fake" it is "the consideration of space being fake", so you actually not talking about "space is fake", but that would mean my argumeent still stands: >>41565832
>>41566065I'll have to go back and sift through the video, then, if anything in that video was 3I, then that thing pretty much lost all of its luminosity in less than a day.
>>41565915Yes but... if brightness is constant, it ain't going to Jove
>>41566091as if it's parked up, waiting...
>>41563187I'm stupid. Can someone explain what the purple image is showing? I know its the moon of Jupiter, but why does it have that shape?
>>4156676790% of that collage is bogus, but the image is real, from the dead man's switch drop. The purple thing is officially assumed to be a derelict ship or station that still has some operational capabilities and responded to the ping sent by Juno in 2019.
>>41567134Wow, that is fucking wild. Thank you for explaining anon.
