This is like the one thing you don't give a child (AKA modern puny humans) access to.Jung and party were and are fools for publishing this kind of work and not keeping it to themselves (I believe). no one should have to tap into the deepest parts of their psyche without sufficient warning.
>>41570986Why do you care? Honestly?Jung's work is barely even acknowledged by the mainstream, and never even thought of by the slaves. They are too busy wrapped in green chains and chasing smoke. What are you so fucking scared of? Smart slaves are still slaves. You're giving off a lot of weakness.
>>41570986Too late. The damage has been done.
>>41570986Quintessentially speaking, archetypal works are older than modern literary formations. Certain authentic forms of archetypal literature can manifest itself as amalgamations of various genres through esoteric renditions. Being in the written word is another medium out of many potential emanations. Semiotically, archetypal literature derives from mythopoeia itself. To advocate burning/banning such conceptions chases a chain of logical deductions where mythopoeia itself is eventually censored and destroyed to maintain retardation, for some odd strange reason.
What is it all about OP? I wanna know
>>41571068>To advocate burning/banning such conceptions chases a chain of logical deductions where mythopoeia itself is eventually censored and destroyed to maintain retardation, for some odd strange reason.In a sense, this is what "atheistic materialism" has achieved. maybe this whole atheism business wasn't so bad after all. at the cost of loss of meaning and nihilism, it keeps the eldritch horrors at bay at least.
Seethe more, /pol/cel. Instead of these books, it is you who are burning, every day and every night, full of rage for never experiencing sex with demons. Keep spamming your threads calling everything a larp, it is entertainment. Feels so good to see your kind seething, I'm going to send a truck full of cow poop to your lawn.
>>41570986>its true>destroy itwhere have I seen this pattern before?
>>41571020anon, OP is a fed
>>41570986y u so butthurt bro. normies dont read, let alone read about it and self actualize
>>41570986i like carl jung and his workshes a cool dudeur a faget OP
>>41571130>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FExBwfQHXlE
>>41570986Jung's psychology is kino.
>>41570986itt: gay persona fans
>>41571865Kek didnt even know there was a song with this meme.
Jung's anima is the same kundalini from hinduism. Exactly the same force. It is called serpent power in satanism, and caduceus in the greek tradition. Once awakened your life will never be the same. You will feel her cuddling you at night.
>>41570986What do you mean? Jung was the good one. Freud however was the crazy one.
Jung is absolutely amazing. I was awakened because of him and I can't agree with his perspective more.Psychological mastery is the only way.Once you become a weapon nothing in the universe can stop you. Sigma out.
>>41570986>Only the elites should have this knowledgeNo
>>41571444Right. I dont even know why I engaged. Were feds always this lazy on this board? I don't remember them being this fucking lazy.
>>41571130>not liking Jung>/pol/ackPick one. It’s freud who the chuds (myself included) want to burn, every well read natsoc loves Jung
Carl Jung archetypes is just astrology for men. Evola was right about him.
>>41573262They're just getting younger and some of em are just stupid compared to how things worked before, like the integrity or quality of their work just dropped to an embarrassing degree, maybe thats the point and that's the psy op, it's just a really shitty one
>>41571865Based Mangione fan
>>41571865>>41571992>>41573530Man, I tell you, there's nothing like coming home after a long, hard day of work and throwing on a Chuck Mangione record. That's real music right there, good old Chuck, I tell you. Man, Chuck Mangione can bring a days-old corpse back from the dead. I'm totally exhausted, right? Completely wiped out from sucking the cum out of CEOs bukkake-style, throwing it up into buckets, then bottling as hair product that I can't even be bothered to wash the cum out of my hair or clothes. I can't even brush my teeth, my arms are so tired from stroking corporate cock all day. I can't do anything but drop my shit on the floor and hit play. "Feels So Good" pours out of the speakers and Chuck's trumpet on the opening cuts right through my soul, and instantly I'm whisked into an altered state, a heavenly pinnacle of high spirits. Pornographic memories are filled in, replaced with images of butterflies and fields of wildflowers in the sun. I lay on my couch, blissful, euphoric, waving my arms around in manic delight. All of a sudden, my day of sucking suit's cocks evaporates, the lingering taste of cum doesn't seem so bad, and I'm completely at peace with my deranged existence. All I can think about is the song, it's catchy melody taking me up and away from all my problems. I don't worry about tomorrow, the mandatory, weekly butt-fucking I'll receive from the members of the Board, the complimentary donut they'll give me after they zip up their pants and pat me on the back. I'll still have to bring my own donut for my ass, of course, and as I return to my desk, as I'm inflating it and placing it on my chair, I won't be thinking about AIDS, I'll be really happy I have a Chuck Mangione tune stuck in my head.
>>41573314>every well read natsoc loves JungWhy? Jung knows how evil nazism is.
>>41573314Freud is pornography.
>>41573352There is nothing wrong with astrology.
>>41571773This
>>41573352>he doesn't know astrology is realnormalfaggots gtfo
>>41570986>no one should have to tap into the deepest parts of their psycheElite fingers wrote this. You are just scared people will stop following you.
>>41573352Evola believed in astrology
>>41575013There IS something wrong with Evola tho
>>41572008You're trying and I admire that. Let me throw you a bone here. Barbelo and Shakti are good analogues. The Anima isn't exactly the same, but in Jung's system it functions that way if you have the right perspective. Is Barbelo the "God Mother" in your system, a sort of distant motherly figure (like a Gaia, for example), or is it more like how Shakti functions, like Artemis to Apollo, Isis to Osiris or Attis to Cybele?So if you use Shakti-Anima-Barbelo in the Tantric sense, like with a Shiva and Shakti union, that's the reliable means of framing this. If you have Anima congruous with Kundalini, you're a bit confused.>called serpent power in satanism and caduceus in the greek traditionI don't know who is helping you with this, but please call them a retard on my behalf. Thanks.
>>41572874>Psychological mastery is the only way.Magic, Occult stuff or whatever else, is quite literally Psychology, anon. Did someone tell you it wasn't? They're wrong.>>41573314>every well read natsoc loves JungI just wish they'd also read de Vere so they have the fuller picture. They get that there's a genetic egregore with Jung and that's helpful, but we need to frame it properly and help convey the historical precedence for the development of the genetic egregore.This is essentially why they killed de Vere, by the way, it's because of how he framed (properly) the history, ramifications and current circumstances of not just killing the monarchy, but killing the oracle (they were the same things, dummies).
>>41576810>>41576824>pilpuls to discredit>elitist diction>the caduceus isn't the kundalini>magic isn't real>here's the official trademark story>retardJust say you're mad some anons are helping themselves, you don't gotta type so much anymore.
>>41576869>y-you're a fedI just built a comparative mythology framework for you, synthesized Jung and de Vere (I'm not sure many other people would consider doing this in public, let alone attempt it) and offered a more holistic explanation for the psychological backbone that is Occult stuff, newnigger.Again, the Anima is not Kundalini, retard. Anima is the feminine other half that you interface with in non-physical ways.Or is this just a desperate attempt to frame my posts as le totally the fed in the thread despite my overt willingness to benefit anyone who desires it?
>>41570986>Nooooooo don't reveal anything clearly to any uninitated being!!!! You will disrupt the carefully shittified consensus reality we have spent countless millennia cultivating to dampen the human spirit!Jung: You vill eat ze self and be happy.Selee/Magisterium/Globohomo Elite: Implodes
>>41576889>eat ze self and be happy.With Jung, it was more like eating fungus and being happy, but that's close enough, I suppose.
>>41576810>You're trying>>41576824>is quite literally>>41576886>framework
>>41576893Yeah, the eucharists identity was implied, but the catalyst to the experience is ultimately immaterial to the fact of the experience itself. All methods are valid.
>>41576886>comparative frameworkLol where? You threw some terms around yet constructed nothing, then you finished by namedropping De Vere (again saying nothing) but to throw out a few more discredits and adhoms. Give us one concrete example of something you've provided because so far all you've done is discredit then immediately kvetch when you got called out hahahaha.>>41576889Kek the OP wasn't cut out for it so they got one with better WPM to derail the thread.
>>41576895>you've mentioned these qualifying words/sayings and so you're clearly a fedYou're trying a bit too hard to consensus crack, don't you think?>>41576900>it doesn't matter how they got thereI understand why, from your perspective, it seems unimportant, but mentioning that Jung enjoyed fungus is important enough to the right people and for the right reasons.Anon, did you know that "red meat" did not mean human flesh, but fungus?Caesar was a stupid, lying nigger.
>>41576910samefagI'm not here to wag my tail and bark for treats just because you don't like my posts. It's clear you're sliding the thread. Are you making good overtime pay today at least?
>>41576912Not the same anon, but I wont doubt you might be a fed, pseud.
>>41576930You didn't even respond to the right post, you retarded nigger.Can you guys at least, if you're going to send some stupid faggot to disrupt our conversations, send someone that isn't so fucking dumb? At least entertain me sometimes with someone that's not a drooling, helmet-wearing brainlet. Don't you have someone who can pretend to be smarter than me for a few minutes? Just a few minutes?
>>41576916>The shill cries out in pain as it calls you shill.I'm not the one discrediting Jung or derailing anons' worthy interest in the most sacred force of life. They deserve their chance too, some are already making great leaps and bounds in their mythic associations. But that's why OP was made to damage control, yes?
>purposefully misunderstands posts>calls you a fed repeatedly>y-you're derailing, not me!Right. Everyone believes you. Don't worry. We totally think you're a serious poster. Don't worry.Can we go back to our thread now, faggots?
Kundalini and the inner Shakti are the same principle. Before she takes her female form, she irradiates love as a transparent serpent coiling around your body. After she takes a definitive female form, the serpent wont appear anymore. Btw, souls have fallen from the upper realms, after mistaking their original anima for a pandoran anima. Hence all the rat race around pussy, the soul believes itself to be separated from its source. To find your original anima is to be one step closer to remember your psychic origins. I'm talking from direct experience, not from books. Personally I prefer the words caduceus, anima and pneuma to kundalini, shakti and prana, because I'm more western.
>>41576912Its important to know insofar we all understand the role of any alchemical reagent in spiritual work. Is it important to know to lible the man as a "druggie"? Nah. I take it you are a mycopilled based eucharist enjoyer, and not the normie libleist type.But mycomancy is not the only method was all my point was.
>>41571431Forgot the name of the creature but it has a cartoonishly large nose, and obsession for small hats and constantly rubs its hands
>>41576968I don't know why you keep conflating Shakti and Kundalini. Kundalini is an energy in the Chakra systems and is a layered, heavily obscured reference to the endocrinological system. Just as the Gnostics spoke in detail about Jesus "rescuing Sophia", the Hindus speak of performing the Bhakti Yoga with Shakti (imagine you're Shiva or something), sort of like how Jung's system speaks to Shadow Work (ie. integrating the Anima).As I said before, it's a deeply interwoven understanding. If you want to prance around and get all butthurt that's fine. I'd like to just go back to the thread. But, no, Shakti is not the Kundalini energy and it's weird you keep rerouting us to Shakti = Kundalini. This is a poor understanding of what Shakti is, how to access it/her and how to adequately frame analogues across systems. And, yes, you need to be literate in other systems and capable of translating. They're languages, systems, and your goal is to learn them and extract the philosopher's stone from their coalescence.Now stop being a faggot.>>41576980>not the only methodAnd we certainly agree, anon.>label him as a druggieNormalfags are stupid. Their sacred cows deserve to be disrespected and stomped on. If you waver, they won't respect you. If you coddle them, they'll find ways to outmaneuver you (as if they could ever manage in the first place).
>>41576994>and get all butthurt>I'd like to just go back to the thread>rerouting us>adequately frame>philosopher's stone>coalescence>faggot
>>41576982You mean the ones who flood a topic with useless data around which they construct a specialist narrative to shoot down actual info? I don't remember but I hear they're getting rare to find these days.
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>>41577019>>41576994Actually, after some deeper reading, thanks to your persistence, I think this fills in some gaps to me. It appears I suffered the confusion of a hurried explanation somewhere in the past. When we say that Shakti is the Kundalini, it seems we're not equating Shakti to the Hormones that move about or are synthesized by the chakra, we're saying that Kundalini is the Shakti energy within us. I guess that the local manifestation of the Marriage or Alchemical Wedding (for others following along) is that particular union - the union of the Shakti energies inside us (Kundalini) and our physical vessel.I don't know why you had to be a nigger and couldn't make an attempt at explaining it.>>41576968>muh irradiates love>souls fallen from the upper realms>pandoran animaThis is why we need to learn to be more specific with our words. If you'd explained the common confusion westerners have, where Shakti and Kundalini are first atomized to help beginners, this may have gone a lot smoother. But, sadly, you probably shouldn't be here doing this, so all you can do is wail like a sorry newfag when someone disagrees with you.Maybe grow up and you won't find yourself in situations like these in the future. Thanks for helping me despite your best efforts.
anyone /jung/ here?what does Liber Novus(the red book) mean to you?it just seems like a messy train of consciousness recounting of dreams and visions brought on by intense isolation. i find this relatable and my psyche goes through the same things. he talks to Philemon a lot and i cant help but draw parallels to my own experiences interacting with fictional characters. anyone smarter than me know what the fuck that huge book actually means?
>>41577263>messy train of consciousness recounting of dreams and visionsHe was using fungus, like we discussed earlier. They're not "dreams", anon, they're trip reports. Philemon was his guide from the fungus, who helped him sort through his journeying. The Red Book is a Shamanic Trip Report, anon.Odin's name means "Frenzy", right? He was heavily associated with the Fly Agaric. Well, Odin's role as the guy who takes drugs and does wacky shit, like killing or maiming himself (especially while high), is intensely reminiscent of the various similar mythological tropes like a Osiris, for example. In Osiris' case, he ventures into the Duat to conquer Death while Isis works to rebuild him. Jung is doing the same thing himself during his fungus fiascos - dying (and rising). Philemon, for an analogue for you, is an HGA or a Higher Self or the Adonai or Divine Companion or Atman or Nous or a/your Daimon (if you're a newfag, please watch His Dark Materials - it'll explain things better, but in reality they're not animals).>what does it meanRed Book is Jung's Magnum Opus (a view into his shamanic journeys, compiled for your entertainment, largely). It's his magical dissertation. You're meant to write (or perform, if that's something that makes sense to you) your own. What that means is up to you.
>>41576994>Normalfags are stupid. Their sacred cows deserve to be disrespected and stomped on.reminds me of Jung's interactions with Izdubar. after much conversation Jung basically gets a dressing down from this entity and there's some sort of two way capitulation where Jung admits this deities great size and power(he was almost accidentally stomped on by it as a roach in the dream world) and they talk about why it has 'fallen off'(in the mind of mortals) as gen z would say. In the end he put this gargantuan beast of a 'sacred cow' in his front pocket through his human free will. I got the sense that this was one of many 'sacred cows' and this was a typical form that these deities would adopt as their own.
>>41577324>Red Book is Jung's Magnum Opus (a view into his shamanic journeys, compiled for your entertainment, largely). It's his magical dissertation. You're meant to write (or perform, if that's something that makes sense to you) your own. What that means is up to you.i think this is true but it's very confronting. i can see why the elites do not want us to do this.
>>41577348Nah, the "elite"s don't want you running around discussing egregores in public, talking about how to utilize archetypes (you tune into them, sort of like how your radio has dials on it that only get the signal if you tune it properly) or realizing you can access other versions of yourself (or something else, perhaps) while using entheogens since those are just for pretty colors and music festivals or something mundane like that, not spiritual experiences... right?The vast majority of you simply cannot (and will not) perform a Magnum Opus and thus that's not a concern of theirs. Frankly, most of you won't do the other things either though. What you'd best take away from Jung, I'd measure, is how his Archetypes overlap with Deities, Saints, Planets, Chakras, Virtues (as opposed to sins), Stars and, ultimately, segmented, internalized versions of yourself. If you knew, for example, how to couple Jung's works and what he did with what all of you call "MK Ultra stuff" (though you rarely seem to properly frame its meaning), then what you could do may be more potent, but how could the vast majority of you ever manage something like that when the best you can muster is calling someone gamer words on Twitter sometimes?
>>41577382>If you knew, for example, how to couple Jung's works and what he did with what all of you call "MK Ultra stuff" (though you rarely seem to properly frame its meaning), then what you could do may be more potenti think this power is being co-opted by Israeli rage bait farms operated out of India. most people dont even realize they're interacting with egregores.me personally, i have my own dream world, and jung is a big part of it. even though i admit i only understand a small fraction of his work.
>>41577382Nigger.
>>41577432interesting how you're able to demonstrate exactly what that anon is saying in a single word. just goes to show how right he is
>>41577424>i think this power is being co-opted by Israeli rage bait farms operated out of India.They'd have to understand it even modestly and THEN be capable of finding a way to use the understanding. If you think most of the people in question are remotely as competent as this hyperbolic hypothesis you're proposing, it might be time to ask where your taxes are really going (again).>>41577432Thanks.>>41577444check
>>41577450>it might be time to ask where your taxes are really going (again).if i were to guess, probably to a small handful of elites well versed in Jung's works and esoteric magik. i'd ask what is the fuel for this magik? money? no. humans? almost. they're turning us into batteries for the egregores(which they know are very much real) to feed off of.
>>41577484>a small handful of elites well versed in Jung's works and esoteric magikUnfortunately, this would be a poor guess.>fuelIt's Inspiration. You want to couple Inspiration with your Will. The Syzygy that emerges from a fusion between your Will and your Inspiration will be the Desire, your consummated Child-Goal, the Alchemical Gold you aim to transmute.That last line, now, was right where we want to go, actually. So, yes, well done. The aim is for all of you to fall under their hivemind bullshit where none of you have Agency, they do some Wizard of Oz bullshit and hide all of the real control behind some curtain, and to basically exploit all of you as much as they're able.>which they know are very much realThey can no longer dispute it, really. It's why they get pissed whenever we have these more candid chats.
>>41571020>Jung's work is barely even acknowledged by the mainstreamhis work is aimed to only a select few - me included
>>41577532His dad was a renown Freemason. Freemasons used to be pretty informed. These days? Not so much.
>>41570986It's just Lurianism through a semi-secular linguistic lens. Jung didn't invent anything, and it's been around for hundreds of years.
>>41577532same anon hereand yes, if a normie would to read his work, it would go over their heads since none of it would apply to them
>>41577541>jung was actually jewish, guysHoly shit are you still on the clock? Here's another shekel, I guess.
>>41577555I never said he was Jewish, you just have terrible reading comprehension. Which might explain why you find Jung's work on self-improvement so dangerous lol
>>41577582>pretends everyone is retardedAh, I was correct. You're not here in earnest. Thanks for playing.
>>41577593Not everyone. Just you.
I think Jung agreed to some degree. Facing this stuff is shocking and scary. I agree we should warn peoplebut at the same time inner world isn't just machinery under the hood that will run silently if we ignore it. Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life and you just call it fate.
>>41570986imagine cucking yourself like that
>>41577123>poor understanding>Hormones >physical vessel>specific>atomized>this may have gone a lot smoother>sadly>wail like a sorry newfag>grow up>situations like these>your best efforts
>>41577541Just throwing some speculation here: was Jung into the septenary?
>>41572008The anima mundi is the divine whore (matrix) pulled over your eyes. Everything men do is for pussy, the drama of life all revolves around pussy. All the worlds a stage and the matrix is the center of it all, holding it all together.
>>41570986Gate keeping universal revelations is antiethical to the unfolding of them.
>>41579414The anima mundi is the pandoran anima. The name comes from Pandora, which lured Prometheus to this tartaric Earth. She isn't part of you, but paint herself as something which would "complete" you. That's why Jungs was wrong in stating women would have an "animus". The personal animus would be the anima of a homosexual male. Women are devoid of anima because they fill the role of the pandoran anima, or anima mundi.
>>41575009It's absolutely insane to think that there is a non-zero percent chance that your post is genuine, and that you truly are fucking retarded. I'm not just slinging insults either. If your post represents your authentic self and your real thoughts and opinions, your IQ is abysmally low. You are an extremely simple person, and the worst part? You're in denial about it.
>>41570986>>41571020>>41571069>What is it all about OP? I wanna knowJung was an honorary jew who placed way too much emphasis on the "divine feminine within". The jews love him because they're a matriarchal hivemind cult.
>>41579820>I dont need the divine feminine for anything! Yet the main talk in the MGTOW movement is... pussy. 24/7 talking about meatholes. Meatholes are the core, the center of gravity, for the average mgtower. Every thought, every decision, have the meathole as the main paradigm. So much for "going your own way", isn't it? Only the anima will free you from the meatbags. She will also free you from industrial porn, which is glorification of the meathole. And porn is more jewish than anything Jung wrote.
>>41579854>Yet the main talk in the MGTOW movement is... pussyAre we in a MGTOW thread? You sure sound like a defensive jew.
>>41579868Oh, you must be one of those simps who still believe in reproduction with the meatbags. My bad, I thought you were one of the redpilled. Then it is even worse. No use in discussing it. Well, good luck with the divorce courts, feminism, landwhales, diseases, etc.
>>41579879>Oh, you must be...Ok if you say so. Moving on...
>>41579375Are these just a list of words you're butthurt about? That's cute. The rest of us are enjoying the thread. We'll be ready to have a fun chat again once you're done sobbing in the corner like a toddler.
>>41570986>no one should have to tap into the deepest parts of their psyche without sufficient warning.eh... feel free to write a warning pamphlet for the books then, you sperg
>>41579905They aren't spergs doing this. The spergs are the ones dangling it around and laughing anytime someone gets all hot and bothered that we'd dare discuss these things with the measly useless eaters. You're supposed to be watching sports and wondering what slop you'll be eating today in between arguments with your fat wife, not pondering what sort of means might rescue you from this hell.The only warning we should give people is how it'll feel to realize everyone around you is an SSRI zombie who only continues to play into this bullshit because they can't properly extrapolate the Prisoner's Dilemma.
>>41579893>you're butthurt>The rest of us>sobbing >corner>toddler
>>41570986Jung's Shadow:>Can make items fall of the shelves>Knocks on wallsOccultists Integrating their Shadow:>Resolve Past Traumas??????????????????If the Shadow is a part of yourself and you're sync'd with it shouldn't you be able to remotely make a cup fall of the desk too?What do you mean the power gained is a psychotherapy session for free that need to be renewed regularly?
>>41579976Only Satan is real, cunt. Get used to it.
>>41580074ur satan.
>>41580074Then get it to come and say hello, plot twist you can't, who are you to tell me what's real or not even LOLImagine seeing 666 online once or twice and making your whole persona out of it
>>41580074Nope. Only individual or collective fears manifest these weird entities of "pure evil".Satan is other people, to paraphrase. But so is the opposite. "Evildoers" are perfectly capable of turning right around and doing good.But is is good or bad to forgive them? You want to label some as evil, satanic, and never forgive them...
>>41579820>Jung was an honorary jewNo retard, Jung was a non-practicing christian that recognize the role of spirituality in humanity and society and it is well documented that played an important part in his rupture with everything freud. Freud saw the younger Jung not only as the heir he had been seeking to take forward his "new science" of psychoanalysis but as a means to legitimize his own work: Freud and other contemporary psychoanalysts were Jews facing rising antisemitism in Europe, and Jung was raised as Christian, although he did not strictly adhere to traditional Christian doctrine, he saw religion, including Christianity, as a powerful expression of the human psyche and its search for meaning.[10] Freud secured Jung's appointment as president of Freud's newly founded International Psychoanalytical Association. Jung's research and personal vision, however, made it difficult to follow his older colleague's doctrine, and they parted ways. This division was painful for Jung and resulted in the establishment of Jung's analytical psychology, as a comprehensive system separate from psychoanalysis.https://wikimore.private.coffee/wiki/en/wiki/Carl_Jung
>>41580074>only what I believe is real 2. You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.https://www.4chan.org/rules
>>41570986>senseless faggotry prose. this is related to /x/ how?
>>41571020It's always a marxist trying to push their ideology into every topic the one with the shitties opinion
>>41580307Said the 15yo kid.
>>41580323What does this mean? We're not supposed to notice we're slaves? You a proud lizardman toady?
>>41570986Funny way to say you hate yourself.
>>41580316Prose and any other form of poetic speech is, according to the vast majority of ancients, Divinely-Inspired. Whether or not OP issues his posts via Divine Inspiration is a topic of further debate, but whether or not Prose, for example, is related to /x/, isn't.
>>41579613You can insult him all you want. Beside making interesting observations on nazism and ww2 Germany, Jung was never too positive on nazism and if you would have read anything written by Jung on the subject you would have known.
>>41579976How tf was he able to actually do that?
>>41575013>>41575021>>41575055Anon is obviously referring to the astrology of women, horoscopes in their fashion magazines and excusing their behaviour because "well I'm a leo so I'm quirky like that xD".
>>41570986BasedOnly the CIA and culture writers should have access Gatekeeping W
>>41571020>Jung's work is barely even acknowledged by the mainstreamOne famous mainstream music band heavily promoted his work. The only reason I navigated my shadow encounter.
>>41584635What band?
>>41570986>This is like the one thing you don't give a child (AKA modern puny humans) access to.>Jung and party were and are fools for publishing this kind of work and not keeping it to themselves (I believe). no one should have to tap into the deepest parts of their psyche without sufficient warning.If, having read the following and accepted any risk associated with commencing this study, can anyone recommend a good starting point for Carl Jung's work? A search on those terms suggested: 'Man and his Symbols' Thank you to anyone who can help with this question and thank you for the discussion which has been interesting to follow.
>>41584925The Red Book, though I suggest preceding or supplementing its reading with some of Joseph Campbell's work like the Hero With A Thousand Faces. When you understand the framework of what Jung was doing (which Campbell and others better translate to the modern reader), his own writings become much more useful to your own work. He proves "being schizo" can be a high ritual artform (which is why the shills are so desperate to derail it lately.)>Jung referred to his imaginative or visionary venture during these years as "my most difficult experiment". This experiment involved a voluntary confrontation with the unconscious through wilful engagement of what Jung later termed "mythopoetic imagination">"From December 1913 onward, [Jung] carried on in the same procedure: deliberately evoking a fantasy in a waking state, and then entering into it as into a drama. These fantasies may be understood as a type of dramatized thinking in pictorial form.... In retrospect, he recalled that his scientific question was to see what took place when he switched off consciousness. The example of dreams indicated the existence of background activity, and he wanted to give this a possibility of emerging, just as one does when taking [psychedelics]."
>>41584586Which is precisely why Jung and de Vere have something important to synthesize. If normalfags weren't so easily distracted and if they were capable of abandoning these pathological desires they have (programmed by other people, mind you), they'd be able to see why someone would bring the two names up together and why it would matter at all to someone talking about "natsoc"s or Hitler.Though it seems like someone wasn't too keen on such a discussion taking place.>>41584925>>41584964Man and his Symbols was a fine work for sure, but you're mostly concerned with Jung's sections. This was written later in his life, I believe the last work, and Jung manages a bit more candid explanations.>good starting pointAs the other anon said, foundational works that really outline Jung's process, from a third person's perspective, help frame what he was doing a bit better. Campbell's work, as mentioned, is certainly helpful here. I'd also like to submit Frazer's Golden Bough and Huxley's Perennial Philosophy. Frankly, these works should give you a strong foundation overall. After you understand the Dionysian-Odinic platforms and how they translate to what Jung was doing, how it resembles those discussed in the books and how it relates to your life, it'll be much clearer what particularly you'll be aiming for.>mythopoetic imagination>>41577382
The dionysian-odinic platform tells me books are for fags.
>>41570986I love active imagination. Iv been doing it since I was little, and still do it to this day. I grew up poor and didn’t have any toys. I remember cracking this tech out chilling on the stairs while my father watched the news. I all of a sudden could transport my self into another world (built by the things i see and liked up to that point) I would create characters and play each one out as if I was that person. It’s really fun and the ideas flow like a river. As schizo as it sounds it made me become pretty emotionally competent. I can’t explain how but i think it’s because I would “act how each character would feel or react to my own decisions ect. So if I was being mean to another character or they fought dbz style, i would in fact be reacting to my own self, naturally as well. I never had any particular story in mind it all just kind of happens and it’s a really good time.Ofc if anyone saw me doing it as an adult they would think im insane. I’m perfectly sane and it’s just a way to “play” and learn.
>>41579820What's wrong with a matriarch? Way better then all the patriarchal death cults we have
>>41571115Eldritch god of love and happiness should not be kept at bay.
>>41571115Stop conflating Jung with Lovecraft and maybe you wouldn't have to be such a massive pussy about the inner workings of the soul.
>>41585526>What's wrong with a matriarch?External authority might have to go entirely. Women created men, as they do every generation. I have not found valid reasons for this act, ones that give a positive or benign view of women. Why didn't they create something actually good? Where are our tits and curves? Women are the more powerful sex, and they have always made sure this was the case. They biologically and physiologically dehumanized men, and cultivated a human sacrifice none would miss or love. The ultimate machine.
>>41573647bot post?
>>41575009Judaism is evil.
>>41579820There's the problem."The divine feminine within".How many people take it for the metaphor it is?Most take it literal, and especially women who talk about Jung's work take it literal and manipulate the concepts to push a matriarchal narrative where men once again are the petty little weaklings who need to humble themselves before the ancient wisdom of the pussy.It's pathetic to mistake his work this way, yet it's how it's taught for malicious purposes.
>>41585575There's been quite a few bot posts in this thread, actually.>>41585595>divine feminine withinThe Divine Feminine, Mother Goddess business began as a result of a misunderstanding of Jung's work. I agree.Having a fundamental understanding of the process of feminine creation is wholesome and a good framework to work with, but subordinating everything to muh Divine Feminine, confining God to only feminine forces, is a huge mistake. In each instance where we disrupt the balance and revert to dichotomous thinking, we're limiting a proper reception of these ideas. Jung stressed a synthesis of polarities heavily and was made famous for his Shadow Work process - which highlights exactly this process in his work.
>>41585607Agreed.It's ironic that many of those Jungists will talk about the dangers of Yang-dominance and then fail to recognise that overt Yang-dominance is what makes so many women so unattractive, because those women are Yang-dominant, out of balance, and never will balance as long as they keep projecting this issue onto men exclusively.
>>41585575Is Chuck Mangione created by AI?
>>41585620I find non-dualism to be fundamental to Adetphood, actually. All the people I have found respect for and was eager to learn from have repeatedly insisted (almost incessantly) that if we think in black and white, we're just stupid propaganda zombies.While I'm certainly not advocating anyone removes their penis or tries to strap a fake one on and pretend they're something they're not, I am definitely advocating for a purely mental version of that as long described (in code, we'll relent) by the ancients via Alchemy or practically any other preceding spiritual venture, regularly discussed throughout the thread.
>>41585668I suppose one way to express that sense of duality is to reduce the impression of category in our daily lives.A particular example of this is gendered clothing. I won't suggest that men should wear miniskirts, the "should" is part of the category.The thought that keeps repeating itself is "why are these shirts for women and those shirts for men when they're the same cut, the same length, and made of the exact same material".That can extend to dresses as well I suppose. Put one tag on an article and it's a reserved maxi dress, put another tag on the exact same article and it's a priest's robe.There's a certain hypocrisy there, or perhaps more accurately a negligence in pushing certain thoughts (equality for all, f.e.) all the way through every category.We're all equal, but a woman can wear anything a man can wear and a man Can't wear anything a woman can wear because those articles are for women even though they're the same cloth.Meanwhile in some cultures, men wear skirt-like garments (Scotland and Indonesia) and traditionally women wore trousers in the cold, both for the same thermal reasons in the nether region.And in Morocco, the djellaba is a unisex robe that men and women can wear just fine. Not in Europe.Somebody who is in Yin-Yang harmony wouldn't even think to gender clothes. It's fucking cloth shaped to fit a body, albeit loose or tight.Yet in this world, the masses live in the realm of the imagination, with structured categories littering the lot with destabilising garbage.
>>41585722While a heightened perspective is respectable and, in basically all cases, transcendent (as you describe), the norms we keep are for the collective cohesion of our species. If we break too many norms, the people with low agency will get too confused about who to emulate and why, causing them to spiral into an easily imagined low-agency chaos where no one knows what the "right" thing to do is anymore.While I did rant about sacred cows a bit before, we should really understand where the line is. Boys shouldn't be given puberty blockers (nor girls). We shouldn't be removing sexual organs. Look, I don't care what clothes you want to wear, dude. Be my guest. Shove a dildo in your pocket and get your rocks off surprising less-masculine dudes at the bar for all I care. But just leave the kids out of it.>sexual disillusionmentWe're not describing physical sex when we have these conversations. This is exactly where the conversation went wrong prior and what they weren't able to properly synthesize; we're describing a mental or spiritual androgen, not anything physical. So the line is the physical world. We must delineate proper sexual barriers for the purpose of survival of our species, the one we wear currently. However, the union of Masculine and Feminine in our mental space or our spiritual space grants us exactly that transcendent thought we first described; the one that unshackles us from these sacred cows (again, leave the kids alone though), that help us realize how petty it is that one cloth length determines who is permitted to wear it and how trivial it is to reduce our humanity to what garments we wear. The Physical understanding is copulation, continuation of the species, "immortality" (to be poetic). On a physical level, it talks to intercourse. On a Mental level, it's Alchemy, the union of Will and Inspiration. On a Spiritual level, it's about corporealizing in these bodies - animating them to service higher versions of ourselves - Great Work.
>>41585668>>41585722>>41585764Not going to read this wall of text, chat. Next time post a tldr, I no longer in my 20s to lose time with walls of text.
>>41585842>i'm not reading that many wordsGood. Thanks for telling us.
>>41570986>This is like the one thing you don't give a child access to.The Freudian systems are far worse. Jung has liberated mankind from yet another torture box. Would you like to wage war eternal, or mutilate your genitals to the end of time? We need to grow.
>>41585764>we're describing a mental or spiritual androgen, not anything physical.The feminine connectivity is emerging, the aquarian merger. We can no longer separate sex from sex.
>>41585722>Put one tag on an article and it's a reserved maxi dress, put another tag on the exact same article and it's a priest's robe.>There's a certain hypocrisy thereMale priests are unnatural, and took the position from women. The garments followed.
>>41585722>why are these shirts for women and those shirts for men when they're the same cut, the same length, and made of the exact same materialMarketing playing off the leftovers of old sacred traditions. It's good to dismantle these things, but only to understand their importance and how said importance gets washed away in this new meaningless world. It's not about simple social norms, it's about magic in its more material expressions, the deeper meaning behind gender, social roles, how man relates to his environment, etc. These things carry over from earlier animistic and shamanistic times when constant engagement with the unseen was a requirement for a decent existence in the long-term and life had to be ritualized in many ways to account for that. Especially with clothing, which was basically an everyday ritual implement.
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>b& or burn booksOP is rather antisemitic, evil evendo you know, who else burned and b& books? he had a funny moustache and oftenly raised his right arm, for no reason at all.firstly, people interested in such literature are already rare AF.people actually comprehending these things, even more rare.finally, actually acting upon the things, the rarest.actually finding the literature is already pretty hard and costs lotsa $$$these 4 points together can already be counted as b&bumping
>>41587170>actually finding the literature is already pretty hard and costs lotsa $$$costs next to nothing nowadays. besides it's not about the money, this is the weakest point. someone curious enough wouldn't stop even if it cost them an arm. and thus they'd endup with no arm and a buckbroken mind if they're a novice which they almost definitely are.>inb4 man up pussy!but yeah, don't take my comment too seriously.
>>41579820He literally wrote that Saturn was the god of the Jews.
>>41584899https://youtu.be/GIuZUCpm9hc?si=HZvlBul5v9rgiC45From the album 'Ænima'
I don't think that the existence of Jung's work is dangerous since the average person will never read it and even if he does he will never put in the hours of work needed to even get a glimpse of what lies deep in his psyche.
>listening to anything a cokehead saysmistake!or was it only the other “man” mr fraudeither way untrustworthy sources who never even sought out psychedelics but instead booze coke and tobacco like a pair of retard monkeyslisten here jerky I don’t need to talk to your underlingswhat is some fat bitch gunna know about being a manwhat is some pussy liberal douche who is ruled by his wife going to know either no one conservative becomes involved with psychology because a conservative would read history books about psychology itself and realize they have been up to dirty tricks and many times are known snitches and entrappers, historically bringing the NKVD to your doorno, they need to get therapy from methis involves me torturing the liberal out of you by dropping your white jew ass in an all black ghetto neighborhood full of killers and voodoo fuckin magic manif you come back alive we can talkand if still hear some liberal shit I am putting them through real life until it breaks themmaybe they can enjoy being in a hospital and having people trying to force you to write a will because they don’t think you are going to livemaybe they need someone to hurt them or worseno loser sitting behind a desk with a non eventful life has anything to say to meno western woman is qualified end of story fuck cokeheads
>>41570986Don’t worry they are. I was just taking a class and they removed the material on him. When I asked the teacher why he was absent she had no answer. I do not agree with this. Gate keeping it from the unwashed masses I suspect.
>>41576869kek
>>41577382> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.> Philippians 4:13This is the power they don't want you having.Read the BibleSave your life.Locked In: How to Escape Your Prison (BY JONATHAN KLECK)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf5jXxf4gqw
>>41579414We are all born into sin (aka the dualistic body system). The XX energy signifies the satanic serpent energy, while the XY energy signifies the Father Most High energy. Look into Jonathan Kleck, he literally explains it all. an understanding of the following verse will benefit you more than you may ever know.Proverbs 9:10 "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all who follow His precepts have a rich understanding." the whole idea of being converted is being on a rock foundation.> And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.> Matthew 16:18 KJVThat foundation is Christ and Peter is the little rock that had the key that would be inverted.
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My thanks to >>41584964 and >>41585380 for your replies. I think I'll take your advice and begin by reading either Cambell or Frazer. I'd not come across the Huxley before and that also looks of interest.
>>41570986Fuck redpill, bluepill, blackpill, Andrew tate, Motivation goyslop, stoicism, Nitszchean philosophy in some sense, /Pol/ shit posting, Change your life goyslop books, gurus... and everything.The Jungpill is the only truth, if anyone's ideas had the most life-changing effect ifunderatood properly and applied. It's Mr.Jung. He just figured it out (life as a whole) whther from spiritual or scientific perspective.And don't worry OP. NPCs and normies and most people want grasp a glimpse of Jung's ideas. They hate reading or even watch a 40-minutes documentary, and at best it's a mindfapping book about self-improvement or a Netflix Goyim media.Truth will only reveal itself to you when you are mentally aware and have the courage to face it and grasp it
>>41589451judeo slave mindvirusliterally tells you to be stupid children,stupid sheep, caught fish, stupid cattle and be a noahide slave
>>41589466Failed prophecyThe church was built on Paul
>>41589466Wrong, the serpent is the Y element, the X is just matter over form. There are two serpents, coiled at each other and separating on top, like in the caduceus, which Y represents nicely. The serpent and the logos are the will of man. X is just unformed matter waiting to be impregnated. A target.
>My soul answered and said, “You speak to me as if you were a child complaining to its mother. I am not your mother.” I do not want to complain, but let me say to you that mine is a long and dusty road. You are to me like a shady tree in the wilderness. I would like to enjoy your shade. But my soul answered, “You are pleasure-seeking. Where is your patience? Your time has not yet run its course. Have you forgotten why you went into the desert?”Unto the amusement park return.
>>41570986dude, who forced you look into the abyss and bring you make this thread?and trust me, people in current still haven't conditions to not play dumb to dig deep down theirself and get depression to ask who am i?
>>41584964Shit makes a lot of sense when you understand man is a walking tuning fork, and sometimes a dosing rod
>>415873461 book 40$ plus shipping thats 50$, thats the remade reprinted versionwhats that, you want the original version? thats 350$, per book, if you are lucky. too bad i need like 6. regarding just this one single subject.so either some paperweights or a used car. what will it be?>inb4 what booksim not telling you>weakest pointno shit thats why it is the last point in my listbumping
>>41570986we are already post pokemon its too late to go back
