Also interesting worth mentioning thread >>41570484

I was doing the tapes and then trying to trying to manifest a specific person into my life.

I fell asleep and immediately had a vivid dream about this person. We were talking and everything was going well, I asked for her number and she gave it, but then changed her mind and got all weird and rejected me lmao.

Wtf was that? Was I possibly communicating with her soul on another plane? Should I take that as a sign that I shouldn’t pursue her

I genuinely get mad after doing these tapes now because it's been a month and a half of consistent use and I've yet to get into focus 12 - feel no difference whatsoever after the countdown to 12. My hunch is I've never even entered focus 10 since my experience is numb arms and legs and a wandering pressure on my face and that is it. Can just get up when he says wake up without waiting for the countdown, which I assume is there for a reason. Kind of fell asleep for 5-ish minutes when redoing the orientation tape. I just don't fucking know anymore

>>41579226
What tape was that?
Generally having a vivid dream after visualizing in SATS means the manifestation has taken root,
in your case it might just be a vivid dream because you asleep to it, but then she rejecting you is just your self-doubt.
Remember our dreams is just what we imagine, even if unconscious.

Previous thread, there was some talk, of how SR actually helps out with clarity, and vise versa as well in some regard.

So, how do I undo years degenerate cooming, that conditioned me to certain fetishes?
Right now I can some times even go a couple of weeks without trouble, but just briefly seeing something can trigger this fetish draw and then cause a relapse soon after.
It come to the point I could literally just coom from binging a bit on porn, not even touching myself.
Even when in deep states, as I'm weening off this stuff, pictures will sometime pop up in my imagination. So yeah its quite a problem I now realize.

The huge archive has a bunch hemi-sync tapes related to several aspects of life, which one would be best to sort of heal this?

>>41579483
>The huge archive has a bunch hemi-sync tapes related to several aspects of life
be more specific

>>41579779
you could just see it for yourself...
but for example, better sleep, eat-not-eat, quit-smoking, detox, letting go, etc
I think relevant to my case, dehab or sex-drive.

>>41579816
>you could just see it for yourself...
It's hard to know what aspects of life, your life, you see reflected on the tapes, but, now that you've answered.
>It come to the point I could literally just coom from binging a bit on porn, not even touching myself.
Dude, you're somewhat fucked because you are kinda deep into the PMO loop.
"One Month Patterning" could help you, it has helped me get out of addictions, but the only thing that will bring those dopamine levels back to normal is to quit cold turkey.
https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/
If you are new to the tapes then you will need to work your way up slowly because OMP needs focus 12.
>for example, better sleep, eat-not-eat, quit-smoking, detox, letting go
Or, if you mean the meditation/metamusic series, I guess you could try that directly, but seriously, as long as your brain is addicted to big quick and easy dopamine discharges you will have a harder time getting out of it.
Good luck.

>>41579162
I don't trust the tape.
Parts of me feels like they are a glowie honeypot to mkuktra your subconscious.

>>41577108
just one month pattering on repeat.

>>41579226
Eventually you can talk to them without listening to it.

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So I did the remote viewing with the deck of cards again... I had the reverse happen this time. The first thought that popped into my head before I even put the tape on was King of Spades. Of course I thought that was highly improbable and it was just my mind fixating on a random card. I tried hard to push it out of my head and completely disregard it. While the tapes were playing I came up with 6 of diamonds. After the tapes were finished I looked at the card I pulled and It was the King of Spades.

Going to try again soon.

It was the King of Spades.

>>41580833
checked and odd, though I've seen on occasion people mention these skill develop and you don't end up needing to be in a deep state to be aware of them.
I guess it takes practice and time to get used and know what is what

Tried the lucid dreaming tape again,
Was late and drunk some wine, I pretty much just went straight to sleep, woke up around the end of the tape, didn't really remember anything tho.
The odd part is that the audio had stopped, but when I looked in the morning the player was pause, some minutes before the end. No idea why it would do that.

>>41579889
>Good luck.
Thanks, and yes I mean something like the H-plus or meditation, seems like "Let Go" is a good onde for giving up bad habits.
>Dude, you're somewhat fucked because you are kinda deep into the PMO loop.
well its not as bad as it seems, it was worse. These past months has been surprisingly reduced, with at least a week in between, and sometimes almost a month.
The thing is it will plateau and the lack of the rush can bring me down feeling depressed, so I feel the urge to just peek a little.
And after peeking for a few days it gets worse to the point where the peen hurts.
Hence why the fetish is troublesome, I feel like even just fapping to something more normal or even soft, might be a better way to ween it off.

I did a really deep dive into this topic, I read all of Monroe’s books, I read the two biographies written about him, I read Rosalyn’s McKnight’s books, I read Joe McMoneagle’s books. I mean I really went all out researching this in great depth. I spent years working with the tapes, but unfortunately I got nowhere. I really wanted it to work, I wanted to greatly improve my life or have some sort of great spiritual experience or insights, etc. However, for me it just didn’t work. It was very peaceful just to sit there and listen to the tapes, sometimes I would “click out” as the institute described, which is like not really falling asleep but more like losing time. But nothing really came of the many hours I spent trying to work with these tapes. I wish you all the best with it, but it just doesn’t seem to work for everyone.

Weird stuff happened to me with the energy food tape. I do the tapes lying on the bed before sleep, so naturally the arms are laying straight. I was jolted imto an awakened state by my forearms popped up twice off the bed, like a praise Jesus gesture, perpendicular to the surface with elbows still on the bed. I sometimes get the sleep twitches but this was a bit too intense. I gave it another whirl last night half expecting it to happen again, which is a surefire way of not letting it happen as was the case. Even letting go of expectations is a form of expectation it seems.

>>41585507
Weird, are you sure it was your physical arm and not within your mind? Like if you were in a deep state without noticing, that you weren't even feeling your physical body anymore?

wake up thread, saw a fun meme >>41585983

>>41579440
I had a similar experience for f12, and similar doubts at f10
Just keep at at it, you'll eventually realize that yes you were at f10 the whole time. If it really bothers you that much, pay attention to your cognition while doing the tapes vs wide awake. You'll realize that the difference between the two is evidence for focus 10.
As for f12, all I can say is just keep doing it. I have doubts about it myself and it will probably be a similar realization as I had for f10.

>>41579440
>a month and a half of consistent use
If you mean you started a month and a half ago that's perhaps and even likely is a short time to move to F12, like, you are failing asleep with Orientation, take it slowly, give each tape from each wave at least a couple of months.
>>41587909
>As for f12, all I can say is just keep doing it. I have doubts about it myself and it will probably be a similar realization as I had for f10.
I wouldn't to tell you what is the difference between the two for me so you don't acquire any biases but you have the right mentality, keep going, it will come to you eventually.

bump

Is there anything in that 50 GB collection torrent that could help with the main wave tapes? Besides the waves themselves, obviously
Also bump

Been trying to use the tapes for a few days but I just can't, I either get a strong headache or feel really sick every single time

>>41593085
>that could help with the main wave tapes?
the fuck do you mean?
help with your brain waves?

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>>41593757
>main wave tapes
I'm talking about these, pegged them as the important stuff and everything else in the collection as supplementary material

>>41579162
Please tell us about the location of moles on your arms.

>>41595281
oh pardon me, I obviously I was not that good in my brain waves that moment
but that's a good question arguably all of them are could help, depending on your needs
personally, I've been trying the lucid dreaming series, not sure if it will help but seem somewhat related

speaking of which, for the main series, the later tapes seem to differ a bit, while the other archive (and torrent), will have all three variations for the later tapes (wave 5 and 6)
are they mostly the same in content? or do you guys have a preferred locutor?

Focus 10 - warm feeling in hands like energy pooling there super relaxed when come out of it

Focus 12- feels like I’m in a rocking boat ??? Haven’t got passed this yet am I doing this right ? Any tips ?

>>41595842
>feels like I’m in a rocking boat
I mean like swaying/waiving ?
That's probably a good sign desu

>>41593085
There's quite a lot if you're prepared to go digging and have genuine interest such as Going Home.

>>41593085
>>41595281
I don't get it, you need help with the waves? Read the manual inserts?
and bump

>>41579483
>Previous thread, there was some talk, of how SR actually helps out with clarity, and vise versa as well in some regard.
i will tell you right now, if i've recently coomed i cannot focus, ill listen to 2 or 3 gateway chapters either falling asleep or laying there without getting in trance state or even to focus 10. if it's been long enough that i'm extremely horny i can get in to focus 10 within minutes.

Hey I was wondering if I can start this today while having drink and smoke (I can't sleep without it). Does I need some type of preparation before going to bed or I just put the sound and sleep

>>41579162
I haven't really kept up with it very well. Still on the first batch of tapes. I only made it to focus 10. I have noticed that my imagination is substantially clearer though. Also, whoever I do meditate with a tape I emerge super relaxed and with far greater focus.

>>41601009
Yeah, absolutely. Just chill out and listen to tape 1. It'll say you should be sober but I mean just do what you can. It's better than not doing it at all, right?

>>41601189
Do you have any interview or does there is some common knowledge about AP under influence ?

>>41601009
you don't actually need to sleep with the tapes, in fact its better if you don't, but its usually better if you tired and relaxed,
its a fine line between being relaxed enough to let go, but being awake enough to be aware,
don't worry too much about it either, because it may take some tries to get used to it, you will get better
also, I found that doing these took out any disability to get a proper night's sleep without any aid, so you may too as well

>>41601628
thanks for the comment.
I will try to do drug less in time while working on Ld and ap

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I got I want to say half way through the tapes before I felt like I wasn't getting what I wanted out of them so instead I've spent most of my time just practicing to get to focus 10. I'm Getting better at it but I still wouldn't say that my body is fully asleep, just relaxed while I work on visualization.

So it seems the originals tapes with Monroe only really go as far as Wave IV - Adventure.

Between the new locutors, do you prefer Laurie Monroe or Honeycutt?
Speaking of which I just did the first tape of those, "advanced focus 12", and what the fuck is this timing, I barely finished my affirmation and it was already expecting me to have reached focus 12, then just I was getting to enjoy the free flow he came back again telling me to close it up.

>>41579226
>can't even manifest an imaginary gf
the tapes aren't working bro

>>41601628
>>41601189

Hey It's me again, so I wanted to relate to my first time with the tape.
Well has excepted I don't fall in lucid dream or astral projection. But the hemisync stuff work. I feel it in my brain. I was able to forget my body and chill like nothing else it was very cool.
I will keep doing today with something on my eyes to block the light

it look promising

>>41579912
it is MK ultraing yourself, the question is if its good. I say yes.

I want to astral project using the tapes, any tips for me? Anons?

>>41602704
>and what the fuck is this timing
if that happened to you then you blitzed through the taps all the way to advanced 12.

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>>41605609
Not really Blitzed through, but was fast indeed. Though I'm sure the times were shorter on that one.
Though it is quite possible I just have a really clouded mind and been distracted lately.

>>41583040
Turns out you’re still in focus 10 right now because you didn’t listen to the part where he brings you out. Make sure you don’t get behind the wheel, broski

>>41605695
>fast indeed. Though I'm sure the times were shorter on that one.
Yeah, that was from own experience, at first it was like wtf, already? Then I realized I was missing being able to get into f10 real quickly if not instantly so I decided to start over at a much slower pace.
I agree about the cut off time though, at the *gatewaytapes* subreddit there were some attempts at remastering/remixing some of the focus levels into a much longer duration, unfortunately the intellectual property owners have gained control of the place and I've no idea what happened with that.
You might want to search it to see if maybe the links are still up, or if you have a reddit account contacting the posters, no idea how that would go.
I've also heard the expand app has some 2 hour focus tracks but imo it's just not the same, might be different for you though.

>>41606728
yeah I'm probably gonna go back to some earlier ones, though I think mostly I got them right,
some earlier ones are also just useful still,
for example imo, nothing of value was added into advanced focus 12, that wasn't already in free flow 12,
though for general free flow I guess I would just go with the binaural from >>41438458

also meanwhile I've been looking into the H-Plus, Mindfood and etc
focused on Lucid Dreaming I guess, but might even try the freedom from smoking too

>>41579912
Museum Of Tarot on Youtube has like a 5 minute video saying the tapes kinda "copy" Robert Monroe's brainwave patterns and "paste" them onto listeneners, so that they can experience his brain state. I'm paraphrasing of course, but it's like simulating his patterns, so you can enjoy. Not sure if he's right or wrong. Maybe it does open doors to higher states of consciousness, maybe it's all CIA MK Ultra 2.0 or something.

>Related:
Astral Projection
Lucid Dreaming
Manifestation

Did anyone here or you know visit "the hill" that people are talking about in the Telepathy Tapes podcast? been hearing you need pure intentions and a kind heart to enter. since I'm unable to astral project I thought this is the right place to ask.