Anyone familiar with the writings and art by Charles Dellshchau that describe a bunch of Prussian nationals financing a group in California that made airships in the mid 1850s? What was this all about and why is there barely any information about it?
>>41601679after the carrington event new madrid earth quake earths surface pressure was significantly lowered.displacement based lift decreases in functionality with a decrease in ambient pressure, aerodynamic lift increases, funny that huh?
>>41601691Go on, please this is very interesting. So they were able to create and use these machines after a solar flare cause a change the air pressure?
>>41601708>So they were able to create and use these machines after a solar flare cause a change the air pressure?no and no, it was before not after, and the axioms of gravitational cosmology are ill suited to describe a "flare of soul"
>>41601679i wonder if these things could explain a bunch of stories about people seeing manned aircraft back in those days that i read in Passport to Magonia.
>>41602134Definitely plausible. The fact that there isnt alot of info or discussion about this stuff makes me think it might be true. If it was a hoax the tartaria idiots would 100% be pushing it just as hard. I have been browsing for years and havent seen a post on here about this
One of the images has trump on it, there has to be more to this it is just so bizarre
>>41601679Walter Bosley is probably the who has researched and written most about it. You can look up interviews/podcasts for the tldr. Just take his speculations with a pinch of salt.
>>41602196Navarro too. i dont buy anything about the lifting fluid stuff but theres a possibility that people were messing around with airships and stuff. i mean, there had been hot air balloons for a long time before that.
>>41602196>>41602243Bingo. I would also look into Prof. Henry Horan he doesn't get into NYMZA/Sonora much directly but listened to several yt episodes he did with Bosley and he knew his stuff. The fact is this is a massive massive area of interest with ties to many other theories of a conspiratorial nature. It's truly incredible knowing this being rediscovered in the 1970s is beyond lucky. Btfo of many mainstream ideas regarding expansive history as well as modern grifters getting loaded moreso than the Tartaia clickbait you see in 2025. Furthermore I'd recommend Andreas Xirtus' videos regarding NYMZA, Sonora Aero Club, US Army Balloon Corps, the Massive Sightings of Aircraft of 1896-1897, the move to Argentina, Butch Cassidy...all before the world wars and beyond the technology that defined em. All interconnected or directly connected to what began in the 1840s in California with Sonora Aero Club. Good stuff, the dude predated much of any YouTubers researching a huge chunk of anything from false history-tarmemea posting some of his best work from 2016-2018.
Very interesting topic. There is absolutely something to it. Must reads:'Origin: The Nineteenth Century Emergence of the 20th Century Breakaway Civilizations'Walter Bosley'Solving the 1897 Airship Mystery'Michael BusbyPDF copies (also in Documents folder see: 'The 1909 Kelso Airships', 'Airship Sightings Newspaper Clippings', 'NJMZa - TheBreakAway')https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1TfZqPVSWRXCi_a3mM73W7HHfASRcadJq
>>41602192No way hahaha
>>41602192>it’s real >it was made between 1908 - 1921uh, what the actual fuck
>>41602196>>41602243>>41603280>>41603447Thanks guys. This stuff is just so fascinating. Anything else you want to add? Where did you first hear about this? Why do you think its not as popular as other conspiracies? Why does one of the machines have trump on it? LolAny discussion or contribution is greatly appreciated
>>41604053my only exposure so far is the stories of manned flying vehicles i read in Passport to Magonia. i think they generally dated from the mid to late 19th century and i seem to recall that they did sound like airships or something. i'll have to look them up again tomorrow and check. like i said above, lighter than air balloons have been around since the late 18th century so i really would be surprised if some one took the next step and made airships or something
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>>41604053Ok, so i re read the section in Passport to Magonia that covers some of the stories reported about seeing airships etc and what really stands out is that the people definitely reported seeing classic airship shaped craft. usually its said to be about 60ft long, cigar shape with wings on the side and something that definitely sounds like a propeller of some kind.Interactions with the passengers of these things seems to happen in american english since no accents are noted. Sometimes local currency (USD) is handed over by someone coming out of the airship so that things can be bought. posting the pages from Passport
full book here. you can get it in all kinds of formats for easy reading on an ebook or whatever.https://archive.org/details/PassportToMagonia--UFOsFolkloreAndParallelWorldsJacquesVallee1993/page/n153/mode/2up
>>41601679Buy ad, >walter
>>41608393Thanks a bunch>>41608683>waltuh
>>41601679Based thread and Walter Bosley pilled>>41601691> after the carrington event new madrid earth quake earths surface pressure was significantly loweredTrue. Earth expansion causes the loss of atmospheric pressure
>>41601679Breakaway nazis let lizards rape them so they could use a Time Machine and start this clubAmericans should kick anyone of predominately German blood out of their country immediately. Project paperclip was an act of war and the time machines won’t stop coming until they eliminate krauts
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>>41613478to be honest the guy probably just got into reading the stories and decided to paint these pictures according to the descriptions etc
>>41613489that sounds dumb to mepost proof or source
>>41615260the stories are from 1897-98. this guy drew his years after that and theres zero evidence of anything else he said in his story. you show me some evidence its anything other than fan fiction.
