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Sooner or later I knew I’d end up here asking for help, you lovely schizos.

I’m a convention artist who makes self-designed merch, and I’ve been holding back my unhinged love for paranormal and esoteric themes in favor of something more “mainstream.” I’m done with that.

I want to reimagine angelic hierarchies and Ars Goetia demons as Tamagotchi style creatures. Cute, collectible, and weird.

Demons are easy, there are tons of messed up designs to draw from. Angels are trickier since they’re usually shown as humanoids, legions, or abstract mandalas.

So I wanted to ask if you know any “canon” angels with abstract, geometric, symbolic, or bizarre traits that could inspire this project.
And if you feel like going wild, suggest other themes that fit the vibe. Astrology, tarot, mysticism, whatever sparks ideas.

I’m planning on making 5 angels and 5 demons.
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>>41617325
We're not your ChatGPT or Stable Diffusion.
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>>41617731
I know, I'm inviting you to take part, not asking you to do anything for me lol
I can do it on my own, it's more fun when there is a community involved, I've worked like this before
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>>41617739
You mean you've stolen other people's ideas before. Yep, no need for LLMs when you can just "crowdsource ideas".
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>>41617748
You are really not forced to do anything here, no need to be mean or contrarian, you can literally do anything else
Fandoms enjoy asking artists to draw things all the time, you are free to ask next time, cheers
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>>41617781
i do like the art wholesome anon.
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>>41617826
Thank you, anon, I appreciate it!
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>>41617748
>>41617731
shit like you is the reason /x/ is a shit board

cant help OP but your art looks awsome
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>>41617325
Make a Demiurge tamogatchi
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I'll c what I can cook up later
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>>41617325
Your artwork is super cool, I've thought before of how compatible the goetia and solomonic magic are with pokemon type stuff. Kudos on embracing your esoteric interests with your artwork!

Yeah the visual depictions we get of angels are generally pretty lacking because they were conflated with caricatures of pagan gods for years in order to humanize them. However, it's all about the art of interpretation, which I can tell you're obviously good at.

There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of lore devoted to them, but as far as angels go, Af and Hemah seem up your alley. According to the apocryphal Gedulat Moshe:

"In the last heaven Moses saw two angels, each five hundred parasangs in height, forged out of chains of black fire and red fire, the angels Af, "Anger", and Hemah, "Wrath", whom God created at the beginning of the world, to execute His will. Moses was disquieted when he looked upon them, but Metatron embraced him, and said, "Moses, Moses, thou favorite of God, fear not, and be not terrified," and Moses became calm."

If you have time to watch a huge documentary about Angels I think this could be useful, particularly the descriptions of the Seraphim.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nKfZ8RJ487M

While its not "canon," as far as astrological concepts go, I think the planetary spirits might be useful.

https://www.occult.live/index.php?title=Planetary_intelligence&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop

Each of the 7 planets has their own angel AND demon, with their own slew of signs, metals, and other thematic stuff.

Good luck!
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Did you had an heretic astral projection?

You have a friend in jesus
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>>41620105
Thanks!

>>41620131
Definitely doing this one, nice one

>>41620173
Can't wait to see

>>41620404
This will be very helpful! Yeah, as we said, angels are a bit lacking for said reasons. Hildegard von bingen also has some crazy stuff, psychedelic and abstract ideas of angels. I surely can do my own interpretation based on symbolisms and concepts, but seems a bit of a stretch to me since it may not be that faithful to the OG "design"
Thank you for your takes!

>>41620408
Brainstorming or Astral projection, either of those are good enough to me if I get a sick design
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>>41621501
Looking at von Bingen's choirs now, how beautiful. I love the old art of the mystical, divine or infernal.

I've absolutely never played it, but I guess the artist behind Shin Megami Tensei has some pretty creative designs for angels derived from his interpretations of the Islamic equivalents of angels from Christianity. Such an avenue might be fruitful for you inspiration-wise, the old artwork is certainly captivating.

Come to think of it, a Seraphim design with a screen which simply reads "HOLY HOLY HOLY" could be pretty cute.
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>>41622457
Here! I was inclined to do the singing face to keep the "gurokawa" element in, but you've been a real one so I'm willing to take your advice :D
I had actual nightmares while doing this one today, not the creepy eyes, but the amount of detail
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>>41620131
Trying something, not sure about it but going there
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>>41617781
Fuck you.

>>41620105
>/x/ is a shit board because there's gullible retards like you who don't even know when you're being used.
Nah, actually fuck you again.
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>>41624644
bitter anon wasting dubs on hate rather than creation
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>>41623350
Damn dude that's even cooler than how I imagined it! Glad I could be of help haha, definitely impressed by your level of detail. I'd love to be able to draw like that but the muses didn't bless me in the visuals department. Nightmares are scary but our homeboy Howard Phillips shewed us how helpful they can be in the creative department.

>>41624540
Coils wrapping around the material sphere, I dig how you fit in his false halo. A cute little lion face on the screen would be great.

A weird quirk in medieval art, certainly non-canon but I love it, is demons with their bodies segmented into multiple heads or faces. It implies a surreal, chimeric physiology.
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>>41624659
He's probably just a little kid, don't worry about it, anon. There's no harm done and I said everything I needed, so it's fine if he wants to bump the thread lol

>>41626192
I mean, if you can write you can definitely draw. It just takes practice and knowledge.

It is a bit hard to represent the multiple heads without destroying the base tamagotchi design, I'd say I adventured myself far too much by adding a fourth button on the Bael one because I thought it might look like a spider
Still I think I can work with something.

Is the demiurge related to alchemy? I see some related imagery there
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>>41617731
>>41617748
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>>41627924
Thanks, and you're right. I drew a lot when I was younger before I put it away due to time constraints in life. I could come back to it the way I did writing.

I didnt even notice the fourth button on Bael, that's cheeky. Now I like it even more lol

As for alchemy, I'm thinking the prima materia? Because it's the basis of the physical world. There's also the male/female, sun/moon union of opposites in the creation of our world. Or in lead/Saturnine vibes from being the creator of the basest state of existence.



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