In this video the prof talks about the foundation of the church. And he presents a pretty different story. He says that the original message of Jesus was to realize the divine spark of the Monad (the real highest divine), that we all have, and be liberated through that. So worship of Jesus wasn't required and not even desired. But Paul, the prof says, changed the narrative to one of Jesus worship. That was a poltical move because to create a church it was much better to have a doctrine that requires the worship of a deity for liberation, and an organisation of priests that is needed for this worship. The original message of Jesus (that is basically gnostic) wouldn't work for that, as it gives all people the possibility for individual, independent liberation.That's an interesting thought that Jesus was actually preaching gnosis and not worship, and that the church is a negative inversion of his message, making him an idol of worship that Jesus never wanted to be. In that view the church loses all spiritual authority and becomes a mere instrument of roman power politics.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XGAc_OqCbU
>>41631403Tell me more, I am interested but I need to know how true this is.
>>41631416>I need to know how true this is.I'm not a history crack, so I can't say how true it is (also I doubt the truth of academic history in general). But there are many rumors about the vatican and how it is involved in the secret politics, so it wouldn't surprise me much.Unfortunately we can't ask Jesus what his real intention was.
>>41631403This is unironically true, and everyone who disagrees with me is either Catholic or jewish.
>>41631403Gnosticism is jewish
Literally just his projection. Zero evidence for anything he said in that video.
>>41631403Paul changing the teachings of Jesus in his writings is fairly well-accepted. There’s a reason why the way he describes Jesus is completely different from everyone else’s account. His writings are also what caused Christianity to become a “cult of Jesus” rather than a religion of God.
>>41631769Incorrect>>41631770You have no idea if the "christianity" the judeoroman church preserved is the correct oneThey would not adopt the version of christianity that would actually be truthful and be a threat. They pick the one that tells you to be a noahide slave lol.
>>41631769>Gnosticism is jewishNot that I would trust the academic history,but according to official sources Gnosticism was greek and maybe influenced from Persia (and maybe from India, but that's not mentioned).
>>41631812You are incorrectGnosticism is a jewish spin off of a jewish cult
>>41631403This guy has repeatedly said that WW3 would start with Iran in sept-oct and it hasn’t happened yet.He’s right with certain things but fails spectacularly short when it comes to topics like Christ and the jewish question
>>41631416Do watch his other videos. He's damn good.>>41632393No. You'd know better if you read up on the subject.Gnosticism came first. The martyrs were gnostics. The Greek scholars/literates who first heard the stories coming out of the region put these accounts to paper and made sense of what materials today make zero sense. The Paulist cult for controlling a slave population. Paul, a jew, brought that religion in as a scapegoat. Just watch the video, man.
>>41631403A lot of what he says is true. Look deeper.
>>41631424Ask away, mortalLet's wake up cicada 3301 together
>>41631403Professor Jiang has a lot of great topics and interesting discussions and I appreciate his openness on being wrong. You'll see that ever class vid is his working knowledge of the subject so his geopolitics especially guesses since he's a man from beijing he's only making his own educated guesses. What's interesting though is most of what he says is not wrong. His discussions on secret societies and how Christianity was formed is entirely grounded. Paul was actually a Roman so he was protected as a Roman scitizen compared to Jesus who was crucified, he really did butt heads with gnostics and Jesuses brother James the Just, he truly did think he talked to Jesus (20 yrs after) believing zealously in his mission to establish the foundations of orthodox Christianity. Since he was a Roman citizen he was protected, he had the idea that Jesus was God so he established and emphasized the structure of how the church would act.Legit just think on that for a bit. James the Just was also preaching Gnostic ideals, literally continuing what his brother was preaching and Paul and James on record did not get along. this would only further separate the two. Paul's references in the bible were about foundational input on how the church would run but it's very likely Jesus wasn't really that motivated in founding a religion, but just preaching and teaching such truths they lived in. If we take the time, we should consider the area. The Levant was a nexus of world views and many early gnostic groups and other local indigenous traditions were there as well. Jesus was Jewish but practiced gnostic ideas. so why did Paul get to and not pets say James the just? Paul was a Roman citizen, he'd actually be sent to rome and come back knowing the priests back in the area wouldn't be able to do anything to him like Jesus. But, since he's a Roman tool he used it to spread Christianity hence all the letters to other groups.
>>41634214>”The disciples said to Jesus: We know that you will depart from us; who is it who will be great over us? Jesus said to them: Wherever you have come, you will go to James the Just, for whose sake heaven and earth came into being.” - Gospel of Thomas 12
>>41631403I considered the idea of James the Just. He was on record the brother of Jesus. So how come it was Paul who got to expand Christianity? I think it's because James like his brother wasn't actually working on establishing a religion. These were truths, but in the Roman system you'd need a priesthood to speak to some god. Who was to be their god? Jesus. Paul was able to travel throughout the empire and be protected as a citizen compared to James and even Jesus who were not citizens. This is a large part I think on all of this. Paul was Ray Croc and Jesus and James were the McDonald's brothers. They saw something they viewed as an inalienable truth but Paul saw churches and religion.And Jesus may not be really preaching Gnostic ideals either. There's a core truth and I'm certain that was his main study. Paul saw Jesus as God. Overtime the establishment of the orthodoxy would take place and other early christian, hermetic and gnostic sects would be taken out (often violently) from human psyche.
>>41631769judaism is bastardized christianityhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPHyR92MQic
>>41632418Yeah, he knows history. But we're off the tune. It's why /pol/ started getting things wrong - human nature is changing. Growing, maturing.
>>41634254You should check out Professor Jiangs discussion on Judaism discussing covenants w god. What was likely revisions from kings, etc.
>>41634267Yeah. Was very certain it's just an educated guess. His idea that Russia would take over Ukraine mentioned indication of further resupply and blocked talks at the time w the US govtand prior to Ukraine gamble of invading Russian territory. His talks range and are pretty grounded which is refreshing imo.I like his esoteric discussions as they're just classroom compared to most YouTube videos trying to give you part knowledge and pushing you with emotional intrigue.
>>41631403To every seeking Gnostic, here is John 3:13-17 NKJV. These words are in red. I became disillusioned with Gnosticism once I finally sat down with the Bible. Our only enemy is ourselves.13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
>>41634267>It's why /pol/ started getting things wrongThey've always been wrong.
Right from the get go he’s wrong about why Jesus was killed. It was the Jewish chief priests who wanted Jesus killed for challenging their authority, not the Romans. Pilate said he found no reason to charge Jesus with anything under Roman law. It was only after the Jewish religious establishment basically begged Pilate that he finally relented.This guy is a CCP information warfare agent. He mixes just enough truth and insight to have surface appeal, while he poisons any legitimacy or value of western civilization. It’s a psyop. Just look at the title of this video and the contents.Look through his other videos. All poisoning thinking on Western civilization and values, while other videos praise Putin, He starts of his Mandate of Heaven video by saying it’s actually an video about civilization. Look at all the comments heaping praise on him…most you can tell are from the Chinese social media mob.
>>41634377Actually he gets into it. Pilates revisions were very likely and yes the Jewish clergy didn't like Jesus, so they asked the governor to intervene. So consider this. If Pilates didn't mind then why did it still go through? How can we tell there was a revision? Paul. Likely Paula and the slow integration of Christianity into Roman society. So when the Jewish clergy didn't like Paul, they actually had him arrested but because Paul was a Roman citizen he was able to speak w the emperor of rome. Not only that he gained an ally and was able to go back without fear of the Jewish clergy as he likely had a strong Roman ally.
Thestory about Pontius Pilate being pressured into killing Jesus sounds weak when you look at history. Pilate was a ruthless governor who didn't hesitate to execute troublemakers. If he truly didn't want Jesus dead, he had the absolute power to stop it. That washed-hands version was probably added later to make the new Christian movement seem less like a threat to Roman rule. It was political spin.Now look at Paul. After his vision, he became the main guy spreading the message to non-Jews. But Paul was a Roman citizen. He understood how Rome worked—it needed order, clear rules, and a chain of command. The original teachings of Jesus, which pointed to a divine spark inside each person, were too loose and personal. You can't build an empire on that.So Paul effectively rebuilt the faith in Rome's image. Jesus was elevated from a teacher to the one and only divine Christ, a singular figure of authority. Belief became a matter of correct doctrine, not personal experience. He organized followers into structured churches with overseers, much like Roman administration. This put him at odds with James, Jesus's own brother, who led the original Jewish followers who kept the old laws.Paul's version won because it was designed to survive and spread across an empire. The gospels softened Pilate to avoid Roman anger, and Paul built a church that Rome could eventually recognize and even adopt. The cost was the original, radical idea that God is within everyone, which got sidelined for a more controlled, organized religion.
this guy is retarded and obviously a fed. saaar brothers and sisters indians were right and we are god totally not luciferianism repackaged and propaganda for the galatic federation Yeah fuck off nigger if you have god inside of you do something divine otherwise you’re just a narcissistic retard who wants to feel special and has too much ego to submit to god. this is so incredibly common jesus said this jesus said that ancient egyptians did this. stop appropriating god’s message if you have no intentions of following him
>>41631812>You have no idea if the "christianity" the judeoroman church preserved is the correct oneThey would not adopt the version of christianity that would actually be truthful and be a threat. They pick the one that tells you to be a noahide slave lol.there exists zero alternative versions. we have the oldest hebrew scriptures that have been found. all translations are consistent. the idea of some rewritten bible is literal nonsense atheists made up google wny bible verse most sites have every single translation in existence right there.
>>41631403I like this guy but he frequently lies and or strawmans his way around, but at the same time he does have good points and theories also.
>>41634762>there exists zero alternative versions. we have the oldest hebrew scriptures that have been found. all translations are consistent. the idea of some rewritten bible is literal nonsense atheists made up google wny bible verse most sites have every single translation in existence right there.Wrong there were many sects of christianity today and there were many sects of christianity in the pastExcept your "holy romans and paulite pharisee cult" killed them despite being commanded to be harmless as dovesLook at Cathars for example
>>41635232“many sects”Zero different bibles though at most they add or unadd books. but they’re still there and still canon according to the original church off you go now little nigger
>>41635232muh people from the Languedoc!
>>41635290>zero differentYou burned all the real/alternative bibles you disingenuous faggot. We know some survived because Nag hamadi proves you wrongChristianity says that worldly powers would persecute and oppress you But your judeo paulite roman cult has been used by every empire as their default religion
>>41631403>jews, puppets of archons/ayys, didn't want goyims escaping the loosh harvest planetYeah I'm not surprised at all, I knew all along it was their plan to keep us here
>>41635323Damn, they really hated pagans. I wonder why though? Because pagan gods represents individuality a little too much?
>>41635425Pagan gods were known for raising human champions to help their communities. Rome needed all access to the mysteries, the occult, etc. through them not their opposition. It always comes down to who has the authority to initiate the masses, and how, and why, and why not.
