MDMA/LSD - which one is more spiritual to you? I have tripped many times and acid can make you question reality/feel like you're in a simulation/meta conversations as well as get you into the "flow".but I feel like MDMA can be quite spiritual too. The euphoric feeling of being on MDMA (or during a candyflip) is the closest thing to the state of "nibbana" (nirvana) and pure bliss one can feel. I'm not saying that MDMA/psychedelics are the key to enlightenment, it's just that they can give glimpse into the blissful/flow state and that can give you a general idea about spiritual ascension.
>>41642985>drugsBeginner level.
>>41642985Don't do drugs
Salvia elf critters and time dilation /space distortion no full ego dissolutionDMT plant intelligences and complete geometric immersion, ego dissolution - complete obeLSD milder kaleidoscopic geometry, hallucinatory sweepings of colours, complete synthesis of senses, enhanced extra dimensional perception and perception of beauty/sound/nature - occasional complete confusion at surroundings when going out fir a walk, unable to locate position in space relative to environment Mushrooms visually beautiful, deep self-perception, mirror staring shapeshifting, utter hilarity, healing of trauma, deep appreciate of reflection if waterMDMA partition dissolution between mind and body, immense euphoria, immensely pleasurable to smoke- Ketamine - complete past life regression
I just wish I understood what you get out of it.
>>41643160Armchair faggot, go live a little.
>>41642985been there done that, ketamine is the most spiritual because it makes the most sense. if you haven't been there you haven't done enough with some good coke.
Has anyone here tried kanna? It's supposedly like a natural form of MDMA.
>>41642985Why not both? Combining them is an even more spiritual experience.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIe0KOiRKuUhttps://qualiacomputing.com/2023/08/21/candy-flipping-optimized-why-lsd-mdma-points-to-blissful-nondual-awareness-and-how-to-maximize-it/
>>41642985Mdma isn't worth it and provides almost no spiritual value in comparison to any other psychedelic. You shouldn't feel something that is interpreted temporarily as eternal bliss or eternal love because that is not a state that truly exists, and you will be left wanting something that is not. The universal constant is movement/change. If you want spiritual growth you should be seeking the states that expand your total range of emotion/sensation/interpretation. Not one that locks you in a state of unearned biological reward. It has value in that by doing it you may reach this truth but beyond that it has little to offer in my opinion.
>>41643069>Ketamine - complete past life regressionyou should try ibogaine if you want past livesshit took me to the higher astral crystal cathedrals where the angels study
>>41644068you sound like a fag and your shit is all retarded
>>41644007I have, I bought 25g of thai origin kanna snuff from a headshop in the city i live in. Never felt much, even after sniffing 1g, sublingual 1g, smoking 1g in bong, even mixing 3g with water. Apparently it (mesmebrine) works more like an SSRI instead of a straight serotonin agonist like mdma. Maybe the thai tuff is bung, all the South African kanna was sold out. I've heard certain plants produce a lot more of the paychoactive chemical when grown in its natural range.
>>41647304I will add it did make my head tingle a bit, only if I was on meth.
>>41642985>Mdma/lsdProcessed mind traps, intoxicationIf it comes out of a lab it will not help you spiritually
If you need psychedelic drugs to become "spiritual" you are a weak willed pussy faggot. Try praying or meditating instead. The sober and aware mind is far stronger than a mind on psychedelics, faggot.
>>41647231Found the rave douche, still popping molly at 32, and convinced that people aren't just talking to him for free drugs
I’ve taken half a gram of benedryl every night for 9 years. Hatman and I are BFFs
>>41644007Made me fe very weird and dissociated. Particularly in combination with weed.
>which synthetic mind control drug is more spiritual?It's all so tiresome
>>41648066>no you cant take drugs you have to do what the gooberment says is legalgo back faggot
>>41647452>>41647486no one has to take drugs and every aspect of life is spiritual. you dumbfucks should learn to let others do what they want. you dont control my life. my body, my choice cumsuckers
>>41642985LSD for me but really nothing compares to 4th Plat DXM trips, too strong for most though IMO. >>41647486The ascended straight edge master so bothered by the evil druggies he breaks his peace of mind to show his "superiority". lol bro, go meditate and chill out.
>>41647486they're really a bunch of fun though
>>41642985Obviously lsd, ecstacy is literal poison and the 4-6 hours of feeling amazing ain't worth feeling like someone hit your head with a hammer the next day and you can't eat properly cause your mouth feels like aids. I guess the afterglow can be considered spiritual especially if you smoke weed during itIf someone could engineer a clear clean ecstacy with no side effects, they should get a Nobel peace prize, closest is probably 2cb but while tamer than shrooms/lsd, it can still really mess with your mind
>>41642985A few weeks ago I used Syrian Rue, Morning Glory seeds, and Mushrooms together, and it was a really beautiful combination.The Syrian Rue has the same effect as Ayahuasca. It contains an MAOI, so it'll enhance the mushrooms.Morning Glory seeds can be made into a tea (cold water extraction), and feels like a mild LSD. I find it very therapeutic/emotionally healing, and they synergize well with the mushrooms.This combination together was extremely therapeutic, and helped me connect with my primal energy.
>>41642985Meth is the most spiritual if you are of good wholesome character.Opens the neuaral pathways in the mind, enhances perception, and allows for increased awareness of "glitches" in the code.Also makes it easier to speak clearly, IF you actually have adhd.Otherwise its just a drug. And the WORST drug. >has adhd >meth is a hero
DMT > LSD > shrooms > mescaline > MDMA
>>41642985Neither are spiritual. Drugs are not paranormal unless you have a psychotic episode and are attacked by demons.Not a single druggo hippy scum has achieved even 1% of what an ascetic monk has.
>>41650705What of the Buddhist monks caught with meth in their monastery? It wasnt purely for pleasure they did it. They knew the truth.
>>41650616Hard agree, but for really any of the amphetamines. Great stuff.
>>41642985MDMA is for getting out the baby oil
>>41643917S tier-DMT, KetamineA tier-LSD, PsilocybinB tier-MDMAC tier-THCBased on spiritual aspectsHavent tried salvia/ibogaine
>>41650705fuck off glowie. stop trying to control others
>>41651655Stop trying to push drugs onto everyone. CIA was behind the LSD craze of the 60s. They are the ones behind all the netflix media, music, podcasters etc pushing drugs on the population.
>>41651304Salvia is DMT's evil twin
Drugs are bad mkay
>>41647486If you're afraid of taking psychedelic drugs to become "spiritual" you are a weak willed pussy faggot.Try taking psychedelics instead. The tripping and geeked mind is far stronger than a mind on schizophrenic jew worship, faggot.
>>41651913>The tripping and geeked mind is far stronger than a mind on schizophrenic jew worship, faggot.Orthodox monks vs filthy disgusting hippies who advocate for mass immigrstion and destruction of the white race Wonder who is stronger
>>41642985mdma is just goodness and potential love with a random chick who you wouldve never considered otherwise.. spirituality feels more like it has to be a road with pitfalls And goodness. shrooms/other psychs fit that more if using that def.
2cb
>>41643069On Salvia you forget you're even a human. On DMT you still know you're tripping. It doesn't have that dissociative effect.
>>41642985MDMA sucks not worth the depression. Acid was everything I wanted it to be highly recommend.
>>41652022Well guess who is winning
