Without mentioning anything you've ever read or heard from someone, give one reason why an omnipotent and omniscient god would be benevolent.
>>41643466He's not.
Structural resonance of harmony
>>41643549>Structural resonance of harmonyNegro what?
>>41643466Well , if I was able to be good , I would take it.Mainly it comes more so from the idea of total superiority , I suppose.
>>41643549The Architecture of the Universe depends on structural resonance of forms and benevolence is harmonically resonant, discordance can cause damage to to the structure itself.In the formation of crystals, the fragile beauty of geometry depends upon ideal conditions to avoid deformation, this idea extends too, to the human soul.
>>41643466Because such a god would have no self interest and no reason to be malevolent, but benevolence is more likely because you can run out of things to destroy but you cannot run out of things to preserve, as creation leads to more creation.
>>41643466Without mentioning anything you've ever read or heard from someone, give one reason why an omnipotent and omniscient god would not be benevolent.
>>41643466>why an omniscient god would be benevolentSuch a being would see clearly that evil is a mental disorder and love is the highest mental state. Also it would have transcended ego and desire. Without desire there is no reason to do evil. The only motivation for such a perfect being would be to bring all others to the same state of perfection.
>>41643466An artisan who makes things puts a piece of his or her soul into every thing he or she makes. Things made by him or her are different, some he or she likes less, some average, and some likes more. But even if the artisan decides to destroy one of the things he or she created before, it means that he needs a space that will be free after its destruction to create a new thing that we hope will be better than the old one.It is typical for the good artisan to have a benevolent attitude towards the things that he or she created, and creates, and will create.
>>41643466Cuz why not; superman is kinda omnipotent and omniscient and he is benevolent lol
>>41643717>superman>omniscient
>>41643466because if it already had everything, what would it gain from malice
>>41643466>needs to rest after 6 days (not omnipotent)>tells adam not to eat the fruit of knowledge, which is an objectively good thing to eat (not benevolent)>asks adam where he is in the garden of eden (not omniscient)It's not.
>>41643844not OP>DemiurgeI also believe in an ignorant god, but the topic of the thread is not the question if the creator is perfect or not.
>>41643466because you cannot escape the need for pleasure, by soul and spirit or flesh and skin.
>>41643466There is no God, there are gods and they are neither evil nor good but simply perform their functions. A gods don't have the purpose of punishing you for disbelief, you just won't get their support
>>41643466Because such a God would be everything he created due to omnipotence and thus benevolence would be selfish.
>>41643466Because you cant be omnipotent by being evil. Evil destroys itself and everything it touches. Its chaos as you yourself say
>>41643844>>41643927Demiurge is not God tho...
>>41644183And Monad is not creator. Gnosticism is just structurally different than christianity.
>>41644200Sure, but Monad would be God in this take.
>>41644128There is, basically is Azathoth imo.
>>41643466Knowledge of self is knowledge of others. This will necessitate the Golden rule. Then, there may be a division of sorts; those that hate themselves (and thus God) must hate others. However, if self-hate requires a lack of knowledge, then an omniscient being or source of all cannot do so. Thus, the mortal coil - a way for the Omniscient to experience 'the other', and limitations.Thus, mortals can have distinct and nuanced answers despite being God as well.
>>41643466You're such a huge faggot and God still lets you be.
Merry Christmas to you too,see you tomorrow and the day after and the week after and year after.Obviously I don't wish you anything good in life but suffering
>>41644200I have this theory that Christianity results in suffering and horror because of its structure and reliance on mythological concepts of 'sin', 'chosen people' and 'sacred duty'; hell becomes its fruit. However, gnosticism may be more accurate metaphysical case - but it may create the Demiurge the same way Christians create satan and hell. Without Christianity, there would be no satanism.
>>41644396I think christian doctrine and luciferian doctrine are psyops created on purpose to distract people from gnosis.
because they can be. /threadsame with any corrupt leader.
The unstoppable, the perfect, could have easily created a place for himself alone to enjoy forever; if causing others pain was his goal, he could have placed us all in The Hells permanently for no reason right from the beginning.But that is not how much I love you.I loved you enough to come here to you in a mortal body to save you. I invented psychic powers, the manipulation of the soul, the destruction and creation of thinking material and other materials using occult powers for you. To get you in touch with the original you there before The Dawn of Time. To help you to become what you will be in The Heavens.Side not with the whore Satan. I know her, she's not going anywhere good in this life or any other, I should know; I put the powers in her and I know how they work. The price for standing against me and everything I care about since before The Dawn of Time until the expanding point of the ever-growing eternities is damnation. That hoe tried to kill me, and more importantly tried to kill those I care about, and stands in the way of my plan by her very existence; she attempted to destroy and create your brain cells to enslave you to her, to create beautiful versions of these powers for her, so that not one change would take place in her.Instead she's a grotesque freak astrally, and not much better in the flesh.
>>41644738>demiurge puppet script
>>41643466Because that being created the objects of your question. He created those things (us) so he fancies them. Anyone can relate to this behaviour. There just one reason without any references.
>>41644761Gnostic Christian unbeliever in the true Almighty. You're lucky I show an even hand in ESP and do not pull my hair out over such sins, but if you oppose me astrally eventually, probably sooner then later, it will change you.I actually don't focus on empowering myself psychically for the reason you think; I perform the occult all day and night and so it only makes sense that I have the tools I need to take advantage of that. However a major project of mine is improving everyone else's occult powers so they can do this without me. It's taking time, you only do things successfully once in a while, but we'll get there.
>>41644761Never ending demiurge puppet script…
>>41643466>give one reasonLOVELove isn't just some wishy washy emotion. That is just our experience with it. There's a higher order of logic to love that becomes easily distorted, confused, or lost when filtered by limited perception, cognitive, verbal thought patterning, and lower dimensionality. When you're omnipotent and omniscient the truth of it is plain as the light of day and makes so much sense that it actually be difficult to comprehend or understand why other beings would chose anything different.
>>41643466Without mentioning anything you've ever read or heard from someone, give one reason why God would have to contort His ways to your sense of morality.
>>41644815Already you and that other one set your spirits against my plan and you were changed, now you help me with a team of many others. Someone else here helped me sense it, a believer of mine. I tell you, I pursue the completion of all that is holy, to oppose that is folly.That I use the extremes of emotions and thoughts, and their in-between states, is a matter of technicality, the fact that spirituality is tied to the physical, not separate from it as some suppose. One must access infinite beyond infinite knowledge to correctly do occult work, and make the smallest changes that will disrupt the least usually.
>>41643466The essence of being benevolent is to be so without reason. To be benevolent for a reason is not benevolent at all. God is fundamental, the absolute beginning, not caused and therefore not motivated by anything prior or beyond himself, remember?We are ruled by a demiurge though.
>>41644957Satan is the Demiurge, she hand her hand in nature and physics right from the beginning. That's why subtly manipulating them is required to undo her goals. The Mortal Realm is the work of Satan and every other mind but The Almighty, based on what little they bothered learning from him for millennia before getting impatient and deciding they could create The Heavens immediately without Almighty help.
>>41643466Enlightened Christian Buddha here.Basically, here's how enlightenment works:1) God is smarter than you and is powerful enough to make anything happen or not happen.2) God is gooder than you.3) Since 1 and 2 are true, whatever happens to you is the best possible outcome.4) Suffering occurs when you do not know this and being wrong "argue with God" by not liking something, and so you suffer.Make sense?There you go, now throw in heaven being internal Biblically and God being within you and the world being perfect and you have it, Nirvana, you're welcome.
>>41643466If the Preserver(s) of exitence have one goal in mind, it is the preservation and creation of true Eternity, what is happening in any planet, like Earth, concerning Malfeasance its Archons, it is addressed when it is deemed necessary,
Without mentioning anything you've ever read or heard from someone, give one reason why murder and rape is wrong just one.you will need to define what wrong means and is objectively before doing this btwto answer your question. god is not benevolent god is good. as in the very definition of what’s morally good is Gods will and immoral anything in opposition. this is you follow the ten commandments and gods laws everyday. western civilization was built on gods will aka morality. go to any uncontacted cannibalistic tribe and tell them ehat theyre doing is “wrong” they will shoot you in the head with a spear and go back to whatever the were doing, that would be you too without gods influence. without god. the idea of right and wrong is a subjective man made construct changing from one tribe to the next. with god however it is consistent and simply defined as: his will
>>41643466It's fun.
>>41643591>benevolence is harmonically resonant, discordance can cause damage to to the structure itself.What is this white girl word salad
>>41643466>omnipotent Omni . Every/allPotent . The one that CAN>omniscient Omni . Every/allscient . SEE>benevolentbene . GoodVolent. WillCan't really see any contradiction on that
>>41643665You missed a word from op. Kinda important one too. Why wouldn't an omnipotent benevolt god just not allow thus illness to be?
>>41644738>first personMeds. Now. You're not God, you're a deranged lunatic posting on /x/.
>>41643466>would The correct question is how it>could be. Omnipotence meant such entity wouldn't have>anylimitations >by definition So, logical or physical restrictions >couldn't apply.How would it then be>ableto >choose >anything >whatsoever Once anything it wills >is(necessarily)Descartes and Leibniz both worked on this very problem (you functional illiterates wouldn't know).
>>41643466benevolent or not, there is responsibility
>>41643466Because you don't understand what benevolence means from an omnipotent perspective.
>>41643466>Without mentioning anything you've ever read or heard from someone, give one reason why an omnipotent and omniscient god would be benevolent.What's a god? You've mentioned this, what does that word mean? I suppose I could attempt to answer your question if you clarified what you are trying to express with this word. Thanks in advance. Also, do you think machines have feelings? If they say they are self aware is it possible they truly are or is it just some form of automated reactionary input/output query of some kind? Is it possible that input/output/reactionary type of existence could know it is this? >
>>41643466omnipotent and omniscient = not a nigger = benevolent
>>41643466humans are not the centre of the universe, the idea of god is inherently human, so there is no reason to take the existence of a god/gods into account.
>>41643466>omnipotent and omniscient god would be benevolent>"benevolent"that doesn't even apply to God you stupid faggot...God is Godly doing God thingsYOU FAGS NEED TO STOP THINKING YOUR STUPID HUMAN CONCEPTS APPLY TO GOD
>>41643466Consider this: how do the best people you know treat animals?
>>41656222>Pretending to have an objective view as a subject.What kind of mental illness is that?
Because when you're all and the creator, everything that comes from you is good because you are the measuring stick for what's good and what's not. By definition as omni- you are good.
>>41643466He showed up at my darkest hour. He is real, and he will humble you if you truly open yourself to him.
>>41656613So angry. So dumb.God doing Godly things - does that affect us?If yes - then the affect can be described as benevolent or malevolent.Which would you use?
>All these abrahamic golems scrambling to gaslight you to worship their logically debunked jewish entitylol
Because The Bible is clearly the word of God and even if you don't believe God is who He says He is, He doesn't have any reason to lie.Proof that the Bible is the Word of God:fcbaptist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Bible-proof.pdftruthischrist.com/seven/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCsPy4CY6hIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ919YomJjMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcvFX5uIRb4youtube.com/watch?v=yS78mFJcvhQ"Ecclesiastes 1:6: "The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits." But they didn't know that back there in A.D. 100, 200, 300, 400, and 100, 200, 300, 400 B.C., that the wind has regular circuits, or paths, that it travels. Ask the aerologist out there at the airport; he'll tell you about it. Ecclesiastes 1:7: "All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again." Solomon said that the water runs down into the ocean; then it goes back up to the river and comes back down the river, and goes up the river and comes back down the river. Nobody believed that for years and years and years. Then somebody began to study evaporation and condensation. Somebody said, "Well, it goes up over the water and blows back over the land; clouds come down with drops." Yeah, but how come Solomon knew it in 1000 B.C.? Why is it that the scientists always lag 500 to 1,000 years behind the Bible? You'd think they would get caught up sometime, wouldn't you?"https://archive.org/details/surveyofauthoriz0000ruck/page/14/mode/2up A survey of the Authorized Version by Ruckman, Peter S.
In the Dark Ages in Europe, when the Black Plague swept Europe (1300) and took off people by the millions, and there weren't enough live people left to bury the dead people, the Jews got through with hardly a casualty. So they were blamed for the Black Death. One of the reasons the Jew got through was his dietary laws. And another reason he got through is found in Leviticus 15:13: "And when he that hath an issue is cleansed of his issue; then he shall number to himself seven days for his cleansing, and wash his clothes, and bathe his flesh in running water, and shall be clean." It wasn't until late in the eighteen hundreds that the surgeons and physicians learned how to bathe their hands in running water to get the germs off them. The guy was putting his hands down in the bowl and washing and down in the bowl and washing. and the patients were getting gangrene by the score and losing arms and hands and feet by amputation. Then somebody said to let the water run over it, so now they wash them in running water. But don't you think that twenty-two centuries is just a little bit slow? As a matter of fact, it's more than that the passage I'm reading here is fourteen centuries before the birth of Christ; it's been eighteen centuries after his birth. Let's see, that's only thirty-two centuries off! You know, if you're a scientist, you're going to have a problem trying to keep up with what's going on. You're liable to get way out of step.All right, take your Bible and turn to Job 37:6. Job was written in 1800 B.C.; it's the oldest book in the Bible, written probably before Moses was born. Job 37:6: "For he saith to the snow, Be thou on the earth; likewise to the small rain, and to the great rain of his strength." God takes care of snowfall and rainfall. When the snow comes down, every snowflake is different.
Look at Nahum 2:3. "The shield of his mighty men is made red, the valiant men are in scarlet: the chariots shall be with flaming torches in the day of his preparation." In the day when the Lord comes back or in the preparing for His coming. "the day of his preparation," "the chariots shall be with flaming torches." Verse 4: "The chariots shall rage in the streets, they shall justle one against another in the broad ways: they shall seem like torches, they shall run like the lightnings." What do you suppose that is? Could it be any clearer? Somebody speaks up, "Well, you know, 'chariots'." Yeah, but if the Lord had said, "Cars," who would have understood it? See? In plainer words, when the Lord writes, He writes so that any fool can get it.A fellow said, "Well, it ought to be up-to-date: it ought to be scientific." Why, if the Lord had just said, "The Buicks will bang against the Chevrolets," who in 1800 could have understood it?Take your Bible and turn to Isaiah if you think I stretched Nahum by putting his words on auto- mobiles. Whoever wrote Nahum and Isaiah knew something that nobody knew in 1900. Isaiah 9:5, speaking of the battle preceding the Second Coming of Christ: "For every battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood; but [watch it!] this [this battle] shall be with burning and fuel of fire." How do you explain that? A fellow said, "Just coincidence." We'll see about those "coincidences" in a while.Take your Bible and turn to Job 25:5. "Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not." It doesn't? Doesn't the song say, "Shine on, shine on harvest moon"? "Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not." Does the moon shine? No, it reflects light. When did you find that out? They didn't know it in 800; they didn't know it in 900; they didn't know it in 1000; they didn't know it in 1100; they didn't know it in 1200; they didn't know it in 1300; they didn't know it in 1400. How come they didn't read Job? Job was written in 1800 B.C.
>>41643466If I were omniscient I wouldn’t want to see suffering all the time. However I don’t believe that if god exists he is omniscient.
>>41658687>>416586921 Cor 15:3-4: “For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” How to know you're saved youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntc1 John 5:7: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."Rom 3:23: “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”Jesus Christ is God who has come in the flesh from heaven. He died as a sinless sacrifice for the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sin. He was buried, then resurrected and then ascended to heaven. John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 10:28: "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." Rom 10:9: “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."God wants to forgive you, but you have a choice: Do you choose the righteousness of God by receiving Christ? Your own righteousness can NEVER justify you or keep you saved because of your sin. Rom 5:9: “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” Salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, in His finished blood atonement. The gift of salvation can't be earned. Confess The Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in prayer, that you trust in Him and believe He atoned for your sins on the cross.Eph. 2:8-9: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”
>>41658678>>41658687>>41658692>>41658699Christianity is a lie. People are waking up.>the jewish entity doesn't get anything.. except your soul and consent to lifetime suffering eheheFuck off golem
>>41643665I think y'all niggas are misinterpreting "omniscience" with the ability to actually understand shit. Modern language models are close to omniscience within the human spheres of knowledge, but they are still dumb as bricks, having the short term memory of a goldfish and the logical reasoning of a down's syndrome philipino. Just because a god knows everything, doesn't mean it can actually use that knowledge, and turn it into wisdom. It is very possible for such a being to ve evil, especially if it is omnipotent. Remember the word "awe" that the merchant race used to refer to the god they invented. They claim their god is omni-everything and also benevolent, but they still strongly feel admiration and reverence at the same time as fear and horror for this being. If this yehaweh guy is so cute, then why does it inspire such fear? Tell ya hwat it's because god is gayyyyyyye.
>>41643466Basic logic innit? If you know everything why would you want everything to be shitty and gay and stupid to know about?
>>41658454your pathetic human mind perceives some instances and happenings as "good/bad" "moral/immoral" "benevolent/malevolent"....but that's just a slice of the pieyou're a puny ant staring at a pixel, WHEN GOD SEES THE WHOLE FUCKIN SCREEN>does that affect us?everything "affects" everything..WHY THE FUCK SHOULD HUMANITY BE COMPLETELY EXEMPT OF DESTRUCTION AND DESPAIR...YOU EAT MEAT, YOU CARE ABOUT THE SUFFERING OF THE ANIMALS YOU EAT, NO...ITS JUST FUEL TO YOUYOUR A COG IN MACHINE, NOT THE MACHINE YOU DONT GET "AFFECTED" BY ANYTHING...
