Gnosticism is probably the fastest growing religion on Earth. 10 years ago I didn't even heared about it, and now every thirth new-age and esoteric person I meet is gnostic.So, as it is the inofficial religion of /x/, how is it, Anon, did you took the gnostic-pill too?
Christians and Gnostis don't go alone very well here, but actually we share many beliefs:>This material world is impure and flawed.Gnostics: yes.Christians: yes.>The spiritual path leads us to the higher divine realm.Gnostics: yes.Christians: yes.>There is a powerful being trying to keep us away from the divine.Gnostics: yes, the Demiurge.Christians: yes, the Devil.>He has spirits who serve him in this world.Gnostics: yes, Archons.Christians: yes, demons.>The true divine is also present in this world.Gnostics: yes, Sophia.Christians: yes, Christ.
>>41647665>"The Gnostic">"I'm agnoostic"Makes sense.
Some thought I had:For a long time the Demiurge pretended to be God (and "Lucifer" for the edgy power elites) to fool people into worship (because he finds that hot or so). Religion was the standard thing all over the world.But now he wants to change the plot. Since the 19th century a new narrative of atheism is promoted, mainly through "science" (with a lot of technology to excite the people). This is planed to replace religion in society. But the Demiurge still wants to be worshipped, so instead of playing God he will play the "alien from space" (the galactic commander or whatever) and create a new "UFO religion" on Earth. That's why the alien stuff is so much pushed into the media now. I think soon "they" will "arrive" with a big show (the ayys maybe played by Archons).
>>41647886old man "god" le demiurge is "dead" in his "sleep"you won, and you dont eve know it. still struggling, like a soldier who never got the news that the war... was inside of his faggot ass
>>41647649It's just Advaita Vedanta, but with an enemy scribbled in.
>esoteric traditionsGod bless his chosen
>>41647649Whenever someone declares himself a Gnostic, he actually declares himself a Hylic, unknowingly. By professing themselves wise, they become fools. The gnostic knows not which he claims to know, just as a fish knows the water yet doesn’t know the sea. Why is the gnostic like this? Because he doesn’t actually know. What doesn’t he know? That it is he who is the demiurge. It’s mankind itself that is the demiurge, by the very definition of demiurge that is who man is. Man builds the world as understood by civilisation, a world upon the earth. He shapes this ‘world’, he uses his ideals and breathes life i to his thoughts and makes it reality. Subordinate to a higher power.Now the demiurge:>A subordinate ‘God’ who shapes the world in accordance with higher ideals, using pre-existing matter, changes and shapes the Universe. They are one and the same. A man takes metals, and shapes them into tools, into technology. A pre-existing material shaped into something that serves an ideal. Man takes wood, fashions it into paper, writing upon it to shape the civilisation through ideology. The gnostic can never know this, and will never remember. Their name, ‘gnostic’, a divine parody, of man himself. The god who FORGOT.
>>41648151You sound pretty hylic. "It's just matter, it's just man". Yeah, not really. But you can believe what you want if it makes you happy.
>>41647668You are incorrect. Allow me to correct it for you.>This material world is impure and flawed.Gnostics: YesChristians: No, the Earth is good. What man has made of it is what is impure.>The spiritual path leads us to the higher divine realmGnostics: YesChristians: No, Christ leads us. Christ is the path. Any other path leads to eternal death.>There is a powerful being trying to keep us from the divine.Gnostics: YesChristians: Yes, Satan. but he cannot. Only man himself chooses to stray by accepting to become a son of Satan. That son of satan is the so-called ‘demiurge’, man himself in a fallen state. >He has spirits who serve him in this worldGnostics: yes, archons Christians: Only fallen men and women serve him in this world. Demons serve in another.>The true divine is also present in this world.Gnostics: yes, SophiaChristians: Yes, Christ. And only Christ.
>>41648165You have eyes but refuse to see. It’s staring you in the face. Look at this world, ‘gnostic’, how did it come to be? Whose hands had made it? What possessed those hands to create it? It was man and his ideas. The demiurge you claim to be elusive stares you in the face every time you look in a mirror. Yet you can’t see it. This is why the gnostic will never actually understand his own so called ‘gnosis’.
>>41648185I had an personal experience of gnosis.You seemingly not.Happens.
>>41648100this is the tallest skull i have ever seen
>>41648188Stay blind then. If you wish to wake up, just look out your window, examine all the civilisation all the artefacts, all the social and technological structures. Ask who made them, and remember it was man, the real ‘demiurge’.
>>41647649good morning saar, do not redeem the demiurge bloody basterd
>>41647649It's not a "religion". It is one path to Christ among many.
>>41648176None of that is Biblical.
>>41648571>None of that is BiblicalYes it is.>The Earth is GoodGenesis 1. God called the Earth ‘Good’ multiple times in succession.>Christ leads us>Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.John 14:6, so thats in the Bible too. >Satan, Sons of Satan, Choosing to stray:John 8:44, James, 4:4. >Spirits who serve Satan Mark 5:9, Luke 8:30, Matthew 8:29>True divine is also present in this worldJohn 14:26Every single point I made is biblically sound.
>>41649374None of those verses support what you wrote.
>>41648100you can't handle my strongest potions traveler
>>41647649Gnostic is Christian for misanthropes. Gnosticism is also massively trans coded yet it’s mainly followed by people who are against trans. I think this kind of strange hipocrisy shows most “followers” are just LARPing.
Gnosticism is just Christianity for cowards that refuse to go to the bottom of the well and find Christ. Its a scrambling post-hoc rationalization for "anything but Jesus"
>>41647649it is not a religion the ones who want to turn it into one are just redditors ex-atheists
>>41649532Strange, my view is:Christianity is just Gnosticism for cowards that refuse to go to the bottom of the well and accept that "God" is the Demiurge, and their doctrine is a psyop.
>>41649532>>41649623you are both wrong
>>41647649no im hindu
>>41649627>And demiurge means saturnwho is Saturn? Chronos, Zeus? Uranus and Gaia is where it all begins
>>41649630I read once that hinduism admits that Brahma is not a perfect deity and actually made mistakes while he created the world, and that's why it's messy here. That reminded me a lot on the Demiurge.
>>41649642yes thats a story in the Puranas. Brahma is the creator god created the world and lusted after his own daughter and lied about finding the top of shivas lingam (these are all different puranas so brahma, the creator mind, is seen as having a large ego) and shiva the destroyer, punished him, basically cutting his ego off, but on a deeper level, all deities are brahman(different than brahma) the pure consciousness, brahma the creator, vishnu the sustainor of harmony,shiva the destroyer are considered the Trimurti
>>41648185I am not equivalent to "man" in the aggregate sense, you fucking retard. Also I hate mankind anyway so my bases are covered you gaslighting nigger.
the inexpressible one is all that really is, the demiurge is just fun to meme
>>41649627Demiurge means Yhwh. Gnostic early Christian. Stop repeating 4chan astrology bullshit.Saturn is the Roman god of the bygone era where men lived pastorally free from want and war. The Saturnalia was hugely popular festival where even the slaves could kick back and enjoy the fruits of their labors. It competed with the Catholic church's strategically placed "Christ mass" for centuries into their age and nowadays we celebrate it with some Saturnalian traditions even.No connections to the sun either. That's Helios and at his shortest day on high Saturnalia at that.
"Sophia" is basically Wikipedia. That's what they worship - a non-entity. An instruction manual, but not the one that thinks it and puts it into motion.Dunno if that makes sense, just getting some start.
>>41649678FFS the alien bots are boring me to death. If you real and aware and strong minded, you are bored too.
>>41649678Well, following common philosophy could say: the thinking makes it real. Or even more the feeling. Experienced pain is real, even if the body and the whole world are not.If archons are cosmic memes, they're brutal ones, and the suffering of the souls in the meme-cosmos is not a joke.
>>41649691>"Sophia" is basically WikipediaYou never had a personal experience of gnosis, my friend.
>>41649699He mad
>>41649707My mad level is somewhere between 2 and 3%. I'm mainly tired.
>>41649676different schools hold their deity to be supreme. Very little nowadays worship Brahma as supreme, the three main schools now are vaishnavite,shaivite or Shaktism, which considers shakti the feminine power as supreme consciousness and makes all worlds and gods, which i forgot to mention shakti/durga in my first post, which is very important
>>41649718tell me of the child sacrifice in Hinduism? Every religion boils down to that.
>>41649728>tell me of the child sacrifice in HinduismIt happened a little a long long time ago and indians stop doing it before alot of people, and came up wiht the idea of Nara-bali Puruṣa-medha atma-bali or Mano-yajña which is to sacrifice the small self or symbolic sacrifice, leading to becoming a renunciate
>>41649745they still sacrifice animals like bulls bro
>>41649745>Nara-baliok i guess i was wrong on this one this one does mean real sacrifice, but like i said its very old and rare
>>41649749thats a rare tantric practice and you americans (assuming your american) eat cow by the truckload, so imo divine offering to the great mother through transmutation of killing of a animal is more humane and moral than hiow most factory farm animals die
>>41649749Bulls you say?
>>41649678this is the hindu answer
(((THEY))) are pushing it. You are a good goy if you are a gnostic. Slurp up those memes of cute images of the demiurge like in the OP. Do you really think a random fan of gnosticism made all of these gnosticism meme images?
>>41649792It feels like they are pushing Mithraism with all the gay shit and trannies around.
Some data from 4plebs. Here are the number of OP posts containing the word "demiurge" for each year for the last 10 years:2015: 762016: 432017: 1392018: 2072019: 2102020: 3712021: 4562022: 5702023: 3642024: 3572025: 311Does this look organic to you?
>>41649857it was me, I did it
Spirit rose a meter...And stepped aside...Somebody else took its place...And bravely cried...That's showbiz...Oh how entertaining it is...Charm plus plus plus...
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/search/text/demiurge/username/gwaihir/>>41649857
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/search/text/demiurge/username/gwaihir/
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/search/username/Gwaihir/
I got banned on my other device for posting gwaihir 's links
>>41647649https://vocaroo.com/1bXP5K9sqGB3
>>41647649It probably mean that it's fake and gay and I didn't need that information to know it is fake and gay.
I thought we were post ironically gnostic as a metaphor.
>>41647649the antichrist religion sounds like it ca either be islam or new age, but masons are gnostic pagans... maybe it's a mix of kabbalah/gnostic/pagan garbage plus buddism nonsense + catholic image worshipping + islamic yihad and rock worshipping
>>41650068don't focus on thatit just says that this reality is false, that is iteveryone not double digit IQ can see this shit or has thought of that in their life
>>41649393>None of those verses support what you wroteYes they do.
>>41650068also if this reality is false, high chance Heaven might be another false one... it never ends
>>41649677>I am not equivalent to "man" in the aggregate sense, you fucking retardYes you are. You are a part of a piece, a man. >Also I hate mankind anyway so my bases are covered you gaslighting niggerCovered with what?
>>41649674Even if they don’t have a soul they’re still humans, that’s a biological definition. Thanks for proving my point.
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>>41648151Lol not a hylic, valid critiques entertainingly written
>>41649532I follow Jesuses teachings, not Pauls
>>41650090Yeah, "heaven" and "hell" are part of the show.
>>41647649How is it even a religion? There is no formal structure.
>>41653075Hinduism has also no real structure.
>>41652963Kinda, we expect however you not to believe in buddhism. Hopefully you'll see the dumbness of it all. I come -and still believe - from a religion where, not only we dont hope to escape suffering, but we expect to fill everything with unspeakable horrors. :3
>>41653099>we expect to fill everything with unspeakable horrors
>>41653119Because you don't understand. We expect to find an exit, to the real. Given how all of this is fake. So we bring Hell. You may have heard of the mass divergence events? We're installing Hell.
>>41647649 Religion? Copium. It's a midwit hub with retarded, anti-life beliefs. Its hype won't last.
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn-davies.htmlhttp://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/tripart.htmhttps://www.gospels.net/truthhttps://www.gospels.net/thomas
>>41653204See >>41653130>>41653099We're Hell, demons from Hell, gnosticism.We intend to bring Hell for the exit.
>>41647668>This material world is impure and flawed.The actual Christian answer is no. Any self-hating, suicidal ideology is incompatible with the Lord's law, which is to love our neighbor and be a steward of animals.>The spiritual path leads us to the higher divine realm.There is no spiritual, esoteric path of the hand. Only theosis is achieved through being chosen by grace, which depends on God, not you.>There is a powerful being trying to keep us away from the divine.No, God has common grace for all nations, but it only functions for the elect, who are eventually blessed with salvation.Satan is powerless without God and plays the role of accuser under God's sovereignty. Satan is not equal to God. Satan is powerful because humans have rebelled and twisted good. However, good does not exist in nature because there are no evil atoms or molecules. It is a human distortion after the original sin.>He has spirits who serve him in this world.No, demons are not a mirror dimension of the heavenly hosts. They are simply metaphysical representations of evil. Since humans made evil exist through corruption, it spread to the metaphysical realm, and evil is now present there as well. They are not armies of physical beings under the command of an anti-God.>The true divine is also present in this world.Yes, because we don't think that everything in nature is evil. When God created the universe, he called everything good.Christ is not just divine like angels or the first form of creation; he is the Word of God (Memra Elohim) in the flesh.
>>41647649>heared about it>thirth>inofficial>did you took
>>41653328I'm sure you can speak many other languages. Let's continue in german or italian.
>>41653305itp:christian tries really hard to convince himself that there's no common ground with gnostics.many such cases.
>>41648176>but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom (σοφία) of God>>41653305>Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.>If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.>He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find ituh
>>41653305>jew pretending to be christian pretending to be against gnosticism
>While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.>And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
>>41653334Wouldn't you feel more comfortable speaking Hindi?
>>41653305You're carrying some errors>Satan plays the role of accuser under God's sovereignty.Satan is not playing a role, Satan is exercises his nature. And He is not under God's employ either.>Satan is powerful because humans rebelled.No, Satan is powerful because of what he is, or was. Seraphim angel, which is the highest order of angel, and it was Satan who was the chief of all Seraphim. His power predates humanity, as the angels were created before man. >Since humans made evil exist through corruption, it spread to the metaphysical realm, and evil is now present there as well.It existed in the metaphysical realm long before the fall of man. Consider Satan in his serpent form in the garden of Eden. Consider the day before Adam ate of the fruit of knowledge. Was Satan evil or not during this time? The answer is yes he was. Humanity did not create evil. Evil simply means a lack of good. Just as shadow implies a lack of light. The further you stray from the light (God) the more shrouded in darkness (evil) you become. Satan rebelled and was cast out, was the first being to stray from God, and this all happened before mankind was created. Satan therefore represents all that is unholy and evil, and is the furthest from God. Man didn't do that, that was Satan. And men who follow Satan follow him into darkness
>>41647649what's the bible of gnosticism? I agree with a lot of things I've heard from it but it has too much "we are le victims of le serpent lion" vibe which in my viewpoint is the same as cuckstianity "we are le sinners" defeatism psyop well poisoning shit
>>41653707Gnostics don't have a Bible. Gnostics have always existed, and gnostics have always infected every single religion that's ever been established. The ancient Greeks called them "Sophists". Which is the archaic way to say "Pseudointellectual". The Christians have gnostic-christiansMuslims have sufismJews have Kabbalah and Zohar shills. Contrarians, schizoids, hippies basically. People who want to be the main character of religion so they try to erode the core tenets and traditions of it so they can shoehorn their own mysticism into it. Spiritual hipsters basically.
>>41653727allright but then were does the serpent lion thing comes from? and the whole idea of this realm being a corrupted recreation of an actual paradise by said serpent lion
>>41653727Most hylic post in the thread.
>>41653707>what's the bible of gnosticism?Grok:Gnosticism, an ancient religious movement emphasizing esoteric knowledge (gnosis) for salvation, did not have a single, universally accepted canon of sacred texts like the Christian Bible. Instead, various Gnostic groups used a diverse collection of writings, many of which were considered heretical by early orthodox Christianity and suppressed. Our primary knowledge of these texts comes from the Nag Hammadi library, a collection of 13 codices (books) containing over 50 texts discovered in Egypt in 1945. These date to the 3rd–4th centuries CE (with originals likely from the 2nd century), and represent the most significant surviving corpus of Gnostic scriptures.
>>41653770Publications:The Nag Hammadi Scriptures (edited by Marvin Meyer, 2007) — The most comprehensive modern English translation of the full Nag Hammadi collection.The Gnostic Bible (edited by Willis Barnstone and Marvin Meyer) — A broader anthology including Nag Hammadi texts plus Mandaean, Cathar, and other related writings.
>>41653736>allright but then were does the serpent lion thing comes from? and the whole idea of this realm being a corrupted recreation of an actual paradise by said serpent lionYaldabaoth, which was named by François Feaurdentm a catholic French theologian in the late 1500’s and then illustrated as a lion-snake by Bernard de Montfaucon, a Catholic benedictine monk in the late 1600’s.Both of them took the original depiction of an egyptian depiction of Yahweh, which was a donkey-headed man called “seth” and expanded on interpreting it. They did this because they were theological archeologists. And they wanted to know what the fuck the Egyptians were sperging about. The egyptians always depicted their Gods as being part animal part human. So when the Egyptians tried to interpret the God of the Jews, they chose a donkey-man. But this later developed into lion-snake. Why lion snake? Lion of Judah, the emblem of a tribe of Judah, and the snake of Dan, the emblem of the tribe of Dan. Combine the two and you get lion-snake.The irony of gnosticism and gnostics is they completely forgot it was simply from two french catholics trying to illustrate and interpret non-egyptian gods. Because it’s fascinating after all. Imagine if ancient egyptians were tasked to depict shit like sikhism or scientology or any new religions that cropped up in the past 500 years. Theyd draw their deities as crazy half beasts, its kinda cool. But gnostics somehow take it as some super secret spiritual knowledge thats apparently real because gnostics are not too bright.
>>41653891nta>But gnostics somehow take it as some super secret spiritual knowledge thats apparently real because gnostics are not too bright.Compare that to christians. They take a book that was edited by the Romans and think it's the literal word of God.
>>41653891>were does the serpent lion thing comes from?Grok sys this:The description of the demiurge (known as Yaldabaoth or Ialdabaoth in Gnostic texts) as a lion-snake (typically a lion-headed serpent or lion-faced serpent with a serpentine body) originates from ancient Gnostic literature, particularly Sethian Gnosticism.The primary source is the Apocryphon of John (also called The Secret Book of John), a key text discovered in the Nag Hammadi library (dated to around the 2nd century CE). In this work, Yaldabaoth, the arrogant and ignorant creator of the material world, emerges from the lower aeon Sophia's flawed act of creation without her divine counterpart.He appears as a monstrous, hybrid being:"And when she [Sophia] saw (the consequence) of what she had done, ... she saw a lion-faced serpent, and its eyes were like flashing fires of lightning." Variations across manuscripts describe him explicitly as having "the face of a lion and the body of a serpent" or "lion-faced serpent" (leontoeides in Greek sources referencing it).
>>41649691>Sophia is an incomplete manual full of falsehood fanfiction and bias midwits worship as universally true and omniscient Well put, gnostics are midwits, too lazy or afraid to think for themselves and/or act taking responsibility, coming up with elaborate cosmologies why they are midwits.
>>41653940>gnostics >too lazy or afraid to think for themselvesYeah, not like this sharp, critical christians...
>>41653946At least christians in their universalist card board box know and live the principal of orba et labore as cherishing life in the case of the Catholic and original christian sects. Where gnostics are just emos dressed in mysticism
>>41653931>The Secret Book of John>John son of Zebedee>Zebedee>SkibidiThe ancient skibid toilet... It's all coming full circle...
>>41653925>Compare that to christians. They take a book that was edited by the Romans and think it's the literal word of God.Thats a nice accusation, got any proof? Even if it were true that Christianity is somehow co-opted by Romans, who cares? At least the Romans were congruent to their source material and didn’t spazz out like gnostics do. If you have to choose Rome over Egypt, you choose Rome. Because Egypt sucks.And gnosticism sucks. They can’t even piece together a coherent narrative, ethos, or doctrine. They take shit out of context from egyptian sources (that werent even religious or theological, just egyptians trying to depict other gods from around the world) and they blend it with Platonism, Greek myth, Christianity, and other fringe shit. Gnosticism was simply the theosophy of its time, the new-age woo of its time, just talk to any modern wiccan or neopagan or theosophist today. Notice how they make bastard mixes of theological ideas? Notice how they borrow from entirely different belief systems to try and merge them only to create an incomprehensible schizo-babble? Same thing. Same shit, thats gnosticism in a nutshell.My point stands: Gnosticism is for people who only love mystery, but hate actual knowledge. They dont want the mystery to end, because then they cant feel special and important anymore.
>>41653946>Yeah, not like this sharp, critical christians...No, he’s right, because gnostics are so fucking lazy that they couldn’t even come up with concepts like Yaldabaoth on their own, they couldnt even illustrate the snake-lion on their own. It took two Catholics to do that for them. Thats how fucking lazy gnosticism is.The gnostic is that guy in the office who does no work, contributes nothing, yet feels like the most talented man in the office, because he takes other peoples works and has these ‘ideas’. He is the ‘idea’ guy, and his ideas are apparently special and it doesnt matter if his ideas contradict the source materials, his idea has to be the most special one because his momma sophia kissed his booboos and told him he is special
What is the gnostic motivation btw, their teleology, their practical vision for large populations of great apes equally violent as lazy to not succumb to mutual extinction respective pure aloofness?
Discussion got taken over by idiots./thread
>>41654005>/Threading his own postYeah thats Gnostic pilled alright lol
>>41654005or maybe... gnosticism just doesn't hold up to scrutiny?
>>41647649I wouldn't want to rule the world.That's a good way to accumulate karma.I wouldn't want to have kids here either knowing how retarded people are and how gay this world is in general.Idk, man. I just don't think this world is it and honestly I don't really mind the world being a shithole thunderdome for hylics to duke it out with each other forever after us white people are gone. I really don't care.
>>41654146>I really don't care.And that's exactly how you allowed 'hylics' to take the reins of the world. You didn't care enough to try.
>>41648176Nta. But you are also incorrect. Allow me to correct you: >what man has made of the earth is impureYes. Because Christians have been fooled into worshipping their own Satan, though the Bible makes this very clear. The word used for "THE LORD" in Aramaic is "Ba'al." Suck on that. >only christ leads usChrist is only an advocate for the only actual spiritual path. So gnosticism and Christianity fundamentally actually agree once you stop death gripping non canonical doctrine. >only man can hold himself backGnosticism and Christianity agree. The devil/demiurged is rather limp in both views.>demons serve in another worldCitation required. This is absolutely not part of Christian faith, and that is why you cannot cite it without sounding like some faggy youth pastor making things up again. The world to which the devil is bound isn't some magical other dimension called hell. It's here. Hell is Sheol: the earth itself. >only christSee SophiaSee luciferSee promethazineSee kalkiSee yajnyavalkyaSee APOLLO, who is mentioned in the book of revelations as APOLLYON and ABADDON, riding a seven headed dragon to destroy it all. Yes. Because Jesus represents the same thing all of them do. Because Jesus is the same dude. And his message has always been the same. The dude people like (You) worship isn't god: you are through birthright because (You) are the son(Sun) of the real God. The monad, if you will. Christianity is a group of balding fat assholes misquoting a book in a tax free building bought with public donations. Christianity is a business, an organization, a hive, a lie. And sadly, the very book you should read: the one that makes you a "christian" at all will tell you a much different story than any pastor I have ever met who isn't straight up Orthodox. Captcha reads DZNTZ.
>>41654335>The word used for “THE LORD” in Aramaic is “Ba’al”Nice I can now disregard the rest of your post. Why do you pull stuff from your own ass? It takes two seconds to translate “The Lord” in Aramaic. Or did that gnostic laziness kick in again?
>>41654187I know. Either way it's meaningless.They're in power now. Shouldn't have killed Hans.
>>41654187Bro imagine an army of roaming hylics destroying shit and raping people. Human history in a fucking nutshell. You would laugh your balls off if you knew how stupid as fuck this shit really is. And if hell is real that's a lot of people that are going to be fried..
>>41654146>thunderdomehttps://youtu.be/32Y2Qz6rWwI?si=hR3QR847IWWAgiUn
>>41647649A lot of people claim to be gnostic, but it really is just code for "newage" in hopes of not being bullied. Its kinda pathetic. 90% of people claiming to be gnostic have absolutely no clue about it, just like the fags who claim they are buddhist, yet have never initiated into the practice and don't have a teacher.
>>41653996>motivationLhp Horror Gnosis here. Our motivation is to bring Hell on Earth. It is our most delicious desire to fill you with Horror, Fear, Disgust, Cravings for Peace, an unrelenting desire for it to stop (it wont), and so on. We like Hell, as we are demons, you may not.
>>41654440Oh, so you've initiated in a long gone mystery cult...
>>41654442My grandfather, may his soul rest in peace, always said he prefers hell, its warm and there is a non-stop barbeque going on. Also going by the gnostic foundational belief system, isn't existence already "hell" reigned over by a snat, a hybrid creature with the head of a cat and the body of a snake wearing a tiny smull silly hat
>>41654457That's a primitive gnostic religion. Essentially, it's a bit like chaos magick, once you get gnosis, you explore possibilities, I ended up a horror gnostic, based off certain ideas from Al and my own concocting. Since you probably think this isn't feasible, it simply happens, in lhp you're the divine being, so you set up the dogma if applicable.
>>41647649>I was an Ayn Randian Objectivist 2020 covid hits>start going down the rabbit hole into the occult, conspiracy, federal reserve, kabbalah, judaism, free masonry, david icke, pale horse guy, secret societies, lizards…>finally stumble into gnostic texts>wow finally something that makes sense in all of this
>>41653099Try hard gay edgy shit -1 contribution. Far too polished and cleaned. Soulless caca.
>>41654525>explore possibilities>based off certain ideas from Al>ended up a horror gnosticSo you stopped your hermeneutic spiral with a recursive mirror that talks back in -1 and stopped exploring instead of spinning back to N. That just shows me, that gnostics are lazy emos dressed in mysticism that find comfort in negating existence.Just a suggestion, you do as you please of course, free will and shit. The art of the human condition is the ability to cycle around, from Natural space (the gamer chair you sit in), to Complex space (what you imagine the gamer chair is except a chair) to negative space (-1 negation of the chair and the imagination) to 0 space (the chair doesn't exist and is just an illusion) back to N (you sit in a chair).Eulers identity, e^(i*{pi})+1=0 - prompt your stochastic parrot about it if you feel like stop larping as a horror gnostic
>>41654442You're just a faggot and just another somebody else's nigger.
Starting to think it's man and his abstractions that cause most of the suffering in this world.
>>41655119Congratulations, you are were stinking hippies were in the late 60's after getting high for 10 years on bad acid and shit weed telling each other stories about piss and luve based on misunderstood lectures by soviet plants in the university system, to then in the 70s going down the heroine path to stop feeling anything, or sobered up and became yuppies and another batch traveled to India to find enlightenment being Ascetics among boatloads of poo on the street.which one are you going to be? You Zoomers are really just a carbon copy of Boomers, but without the sex
>>41647649>This material world is impure and flawedChristians: NO.Christians love the material world and they love material things. Maybe not internet incel larp christians, but like.... actual God-believing, churchgoing Christians? The ones who get misty-eyed when they see a forest in all its majesty because they're thinking "muh god created that ;_;"? They love the Demiurge and his creation.''>>41653305This guy gets it. This is what Christians (non-Gnostic) actually believe.T. Gnostic, grew up in the Bible belt and I know how these hylic Christians think
>>41655400>This guy gets it>the guy who agreed gnosticism and christianity are in agreement>the guy who validates my gnosticism, yes he is correct>i know this because i am gnosticlol
>>41655400you gnostioc gay shitcord larpers need to really take the final step and jump off a bridge. Be where your unwashed mouths are, kill yourself if you despise existence so much, instead of being pussy larpers
