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Here's a conspiracy theory that's ACTUALLY true. The elites are engaged in a controlled opposition support of child sacrifice. Both pro choice and pro life work to keep abortion legal. They stab you while they cry out in pain

I don’t know if you know this, but Pro-Life establishment leaders and politicians have killed at least 52 abolition bills since 2016.

More than half of those bills were introduced after the Dobbs v. Jackson decision overturned the monstrous Roe v. Wade opinion.

Why are Pro-Life leaders killing bills to abolish abortion?
Before Roe was overturned, many Pro-Life leaders and politicians pointed to that unjust court ruling as an excuse for why they could not abolish abortion right away. Now, more than three years after that obstacle was removed, nothing has really changed.

Though more Pro-Life laws continue to be passed each year, those laws haven’t even reduced the number of babies being murdered by abortion, let alone abolished it.

Sadly, more babies from states with “bans” are dying by abortion today than before Roe was overturned. While abortion methods and access is shifting to accommodate the changing regulations around the practice, baby murder itself is on the rise. This is the reality.

The "Abortion-Free" docuseries explains much more about all of this.
This series helps answer common questions:
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>>41654205
Have abortion bans created any “abortion-free” states?
Are so-called “bans” reducing abortion numbers?
What happens when lawmakers introduce abolition bills?
What do abolitionists actually believe?
Aren’t women the second victims of abortion?
What is the role of the church in abolishing abortion?

Our work through FAA takes us to the front lines of the legislative fight for equal protection across the country. The problem that existed before Roe was overturned is still a problem now.

We’ve seen firsthand that the most destructive opposition is far more likely to come from Pro-Life leaders and politicians than it is to come from Planned Parenthood.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ud_0LyCbEY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg8B9D8fjFI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTP-QMd4s2w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOIpqARQrmc
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>>41654205
>those laws haven’t even reduced the number of babies being murdered by abortion, let alone abolished it.
But they HAVE drastically increased the number of women who die from childbirth complications.
So good job, retards.
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bump
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>>41654205
It’s a states right issue. Plain and simple. The problem was abortion being federally allowed. Plus, a lot of bills that people have problems with are the ones that exclude abortions due to rape, incest, or the mother’s life being in danger. I don’t like abortion, but states can do what they want at this point.
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>>41656733
It's not the woman's fault that the hospital deliberately deprived her of proper medical care out of spite
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>>41658679
It's an issue of abortion being murder. Being pro-choice is morally reprehensible. You're supporting the murder of children. It needs to be wiped from the face of the Earth, one way or another.
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Child sacrifice this, Child sacrifice that.

No one has given any evidence that this practice even works and what it actually offers. Sounds like a bunch blood thirsty psychos bored killing adults.
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>>41658998
>No one has given any evidence that this practice even works and what it actually offers
Women get an abortion (sacrifice another), and now they have free time and can indulge in themselves (what they get in return of the sacrifice)
It works, it's just evil.
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>>41659047
Yeah, was hoping for dark magic sheit. This world truly is a nothing burger.
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>>41659092
That sort of thing happens too, but for the majority, it's the thing I said first. It's still spiritually the same thing though...
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>>41658703
Correct. It is the lawmaker's fault for threatening to jail or kill both doctor and woman for attempting it.
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c
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>>41654205
Oh cool it's a crystalcafe vs incels thread
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>>41658713
Based
>>41660010
No it's pearl clutchers fault for pretending doctors will be imprisoned for removing ectopic pregnancy even though there's no precedent for this
>>41659248
Women get special murder rights. As a man I can't legally kill humans and Livestream myself doing it in 4k and face zero legal consequences
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>>41663203
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjr8jv2yjz9o
https://www.aamc.org/news/2022-caitlin-bernard-md-became-lightning-rod-abortion-debate-heres-why-she-keeps-fighting
People were prosecuted. People DIED because of these laws.
They were told these laws would kill people.
They put the laws in place.
People died.
>As a man I can't legally kill humans and Livestream myself doing it in 4k and face zero legal consequences
Sure you can. Just masturbate.
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>>41658713
>Being pro-choice is morally reprehensible
*Is believed to be

It will never be "wiped from the face of the Earth" because it is the nature of a woman's body to abort the dud eggs on a monthly basis.
As for first trimester abortions, you must do something about the need. Stopping rape, stopping poverty, offering up families that want a rape baby or whatever.
No one wants an abortion. It isn't pleasant. Help them. Making stupid laws to forbid it is just wrong. Morally reprehensible even.
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>>41658713
Y’all make burger and steak jokes on topics discussing animal cruelty. Being a hypocrite is morally reprehensible. Being a dogmatic religious is morally reprehensible to me too.

So yes let’s talk about morally reprehensible
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>>41654205
Elites are actually preventing abortion to build a bigger slavie workforce... Overpopulation = able to pay slavies dirt cheap

You got it completely opposite OP
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>>41663362
>She performed a legal medication abortion for a 10-year-old Ohio rape victim in 2022 (pre-Indiana ban). She was not prosecuted for the abortion itself. Instead, Indiana's AG investigated her (politically motivated, per critics), and the medical board reprimanded/fined her $3,000 solely for discussing the case publicly (privacy violation, though she didn't name the patient). She became a national flashpoint amid post-Dobbs chaos, facing threats and scrutiny, but no criminal charges for providing care.

>This involves a New York doctor indicted in 2025 for mailing abortion pills to a Louisiana teen (and her mother). It's a prosecution for providing elective/telemedicine abortion pills across state lines, not for treating any medical emergency like ectopic pregnancy or miscarriage. Louisiana's near-total ban has no rape/incest exceptions, and they recently classified abortion pills as controlled substances. New York is shielding the doctor via "shield laws." Again, not related to emergency care prosecutions.

>Babies DIED because of these laws.
>They were told these laws would kill babies.
>They put the laws in place.
>A million children were killed every year under these laws

>Masturbating releases sperm (potential life, but no fertilization or embryo exists), while **Plan C** (medication abortion pills like mifepristone + misoprostol) actively ends an established early pregnancy by detaching and expelling an embryo/fetus.

One prevents possible conception; the other terminates an existing one. The joke equates "killing sperm" to abortion, but biologically and legally, they're not comparable—no human life is ended in masturbation.
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>>41663471
If abortion is on the rise, it's culling the uncontrollable populace. It abortion falls out of favor, it's building a slave workforce. If abortion stays on everybody's minds, it's a distraction tactic against some other issue. If abortion runs out of memetic traction, it's a distraction tactic to keep people from talking about abortion. If stem cell research gets funded by the government, it's a cabal bent on using child sacrifice to fuel their plans. If stem cell research gets banned by the government, it's a cabal bent on halting progress to extend a human's lifespan.
Everything is easy when you have a bad guy to point the finger at, isn't it?
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>>41663500
A 10-year-old's body is not ready for birth, they will die and/or suffer life-long complications (not to mention PTSD) from carrying pregnancy.

>>41663502
Isn't OP also pulling a child sacrifice ring by the elites [through abortion], also falling under what you've said?
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>>41663437
>Adults murdering each other will never be wiped from the face of the earth
>As for adults murdering each other you have to do something about why people do the murders, address poverty
>No adult wants to murder another adult. It isn't pleasant. Help them. Making stupid laws to forbid it is just wrong. Morally reprehensible even.
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>>41663516
>also falling under what you've said?
That's my point. As long as you have a single bad guy entity as your magnetic north, you can never get lost. Everything bad that happens is their fault. Anything that could go wrong is their cruel devices. If something doesn't go wrong, they're biding their time.
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>>41663519
Do you know the history of divorce laws in the US? Women were outright murdering their husbands, directly or indirectly, as divorce was prohibited by law. Only until divorce was legalized did husbands [and wives, too] stop randomly dropping dead.

Same holds true for abortion. Women will die from blackmarket operations, or simply just go abroad. Women did die from blackmarket operations before abortion was legalized.

Also, abortion isn't just simple termination willy-nilly. Complications in the fetus can occur, and fetuses can be already dead; thus the need of abortion.
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>>41663462
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zkH3vrevU9o

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=brKhhZlUoOc

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VIwWhdvrYRE

The earliest case for which I believe the precautionary principle should hold was around 43-45 days. Which comes out to be 6.1-6.4 weeks.

The fetal brain begins to develop around 3-5 weeks gestation. So I am okay with abortions prior to that timeframe.

It's hard to say what the levels of sentience equate to at each week. But I wouldn't not assume this is a miniscule amount of sentience. Many EEG brain patterns observed in fetal brains as early as 6.1-6.4 weeks ( high voltage
slow waves with superimposed fast activity) are comparable to mature birds, mature frogs, mature rabbits and the mature marmot. We can even observe sleep spindles in the fetal brain this early.

Does this prove the same degree of sentience? No. Does this give us reason to take the precautionary principle with respect to this degree of sentience? Yes

https://www.dominionmovement.com/watch

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ugWMVqkRuj4
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>>41663552
I'd still abort a severely disgured & mentally challenged fetus than let it suffer in life. My nana has multifactorial Alzheimer's and she has now forgotten how to eat, talk, and use the restroom; why should people be subject to poor quality of life for the sake of longevity?

>inb4 eugenics
Yes
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>>41663550
>Let women cheat on you, steal all your money and take your children or they'll kill you in your sleep
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>>41663563
>severely disgured & mentally challenged

That's arbitrary. Like a roller coaster at a amusement park that says you must be at least 64 inches tall to ride. 63 inches tall? No ride for you. 64 inches tall? You may ride
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>>41663575
What's the limit representing severely, mentally retarded and passable? I think I'm going to get skewed results asking on 4chan, though.

Similarly, all morality is arbitrary, including the constraints placed on abortion as something immoral.

>>41663568
If you paid attention in your high school English class you'd realize this is just a straw man [logical] fallacy
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Abortion is the greatest act of kindness one can have bestowed upon them. To be spared from existing is something I could only dream of.
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>>41663734
Don't worry anon we have a book you can read that will tell you how suffering is actually based and totally worth it.
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>>41663734
I don't think I'd care if I got aborted anyways. I wasn't conscious, and the Earth is being polluted and will face irreversible ecological damage in the upcoming decades.



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