I've studied near death experiences for a long time. There are two kinds. Those that promote Christianity, and those that promote another specific religion. In this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A7m1VTA8zo this guy says while demonically possessed he wrote stuff that promoted this alternative religion. He says it's called the "law of one." It basically says reincarnation exists, life is just for learning, there is no accountability. If you do evil, that's just because life is a play, and that was your role for this incarnation.That means when someone has an NDE and they meet beings who tell them this stuff, those are demons. There's a book called the "NDE conspiracy" https://www.amazon.com/NDE-Conspiracy-Eyewitness-Afterlife-Collection-ebook/dp/B0CS2Y3DP3 which talks about how when some people die they think they're in heaven, but then learn it's a fake heaven, at which point they are brought to hell, but if they had been revived before that, they would have woken up and told everyone they went to heaven, and lived the rest of their life believing they're on the right path. So we know demons can fabricate afterlife experiences, and we know "law of one" teachings are demonic.1/2
I've also researched aliens for 10 years after seeing a ufo. I learned they can walk through walls, paralyze you at a distance, appear anyway outlandish they want, shapeshift before your eyes, read your mind, take your soul and put it in other bodies, etc. But then I stumbled upon Joseph Jordan's book "piercing the cosmic veil," here's a interview in case you don't wanna buy and read it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVs5vEt7doo It turns out aliens are repelled if you say Jesus' name, and the abduction experience immediately ends. They can also appear in other ways. Here's an example of mothman being repelled by Biblical scripture at 12:33 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuofJbQlbzc&t=753s There's also a book called "the inhumanoids" by barton nunelly. He describes all sorts of absurd paranormal entities from walking skeletons and lizard men, to fairies and other strange regional creatures. In the sasquatch section he describes how one was repelled by praying to Jesus. https://projectavalon.net/lib/Barton%20M.%20Nunnelly%20-%20The%20Inhumanoids%20-%20Real%20Encounter.pdfThis exorcist described how "opening your third eye" opens you up to demonic possession. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBObMYl5Jhg There's a reason why the Bible forbids witchcraft and channeling spirits. All channeled spirits are demons. They can impersonate anyone they want to trick you down the wrong path. There's a whole channel where this guy interviews former occultists who woke up and converted to Christianity. https://www.youtube.com/@stephenconidaris/videos All the people on this channel have gone deeper than any "occult curious" people on this board, because they went so deep they saw it was demonic garbage. Not because they believed the Bible without evidence, but because they saw it manifest in their own lives.2/2
stfu christcuck
>>41657469I knew this kind of uneducated reply was coming.
>>41657351>There's a reason why the Bible forbids witchcraft and channeling spirits.This is just the opinion of one of the prophets, not all the prophets who compiled the Bible.The first king of Israel, SaulSituation: Saul has banished wizards and fortune-tellers from the country Israel. And before the decisive battle with the Philistines at Mount Gilboa, Saul was in despair. God did not answer him through the prophets, nor through dreams, nor through the Urim (sacred lot).Action: Despite the fact that Saul himself had previously banished wizards and fortune-tellers from the country Israel, he secretly turned to wizards for help in fear. He changed his clothes and went to the sorceress (or "spirit summoner woman") in Endor at night.Request: Saul asked her to summon the spirit of the prophet Samuel (Shmuel).Exodus: The appearance of the spirit of the prophet Samuel only confirmed Saul's worst fears: Jewish God had rejected him, and tomorrow he and his sons would die in battle. The prediction came true.It's a moral story, isn't it? King Saul initially banished wizards, sorceresses, and fortune-tellers, and then suffered for it because they have been God-pleasing.
>>41657351>This exorcist described how "opening your third eye" opens you up to demonic possession.This exorcist is from another religion, not from Buddhism, not from Hinduism, not from Jainism. For him, all spirits that are not Protestant spirits are demons. As you know, spirits are with different beliefs, different faiths.
>>41657585Did you actually watch the video? Because I can't imagine how any religion could spin that in a positive light.
>>41657351Man, we are on a similar wavelength. Right before opening this thread, I thought of replying "kids, if you get into too much trouble from chasing demons and their power, call on the name of Jesus". Also, two or so days ago had a talk with someone on how some NDEs are powered by demonic entities who brainwash the person into believing that sin has no consequencesKeep up spreading the truth and may the Lord grant you more revelation, may He protect you and give you strength to endure the afflicted and their attacks
>>41657349>There are two kinds. Those that promote Christianity, and those that promote another specific religion.Have you gotten all your NDEs from youtube clickbait/evangelizing channels and similar media, or are you defining "another specific religion" to include anything at all that isn't Christianity, even if it doesn't actually fit with another specific major religion? I think it's pretty common for NDEs to be quite nonspecific and universalistic.
>>41657484nta but the jew remains on the stick
>>41657349>you> evil is a role, never a free choice >Hell exists OK normies, keep studying the subject, you still have a long way to go Be patient little beetle
>>41658242I was going to give you a wall of text but your post number tells me I don't need to.
>>41657349Christians NEED a hell to exist. A place of eternal torture where others go for not believing the correct beliefs. It's profoundly sick and utterly anti-human, which is, of course anti-creation, and therefore anti-creator but they need something to be saved from.
>>41658999>need something to be saved fromAre you sure about that?
>>41657349Everything not explicitly approved by a self-anointed priest class is demonic and must be destroyed. It's a mind control system based on primal fear which insures that energy (i.e. wealth) continues to flow from the masses at the bottom of the pyramid to the priest class at the top. The true God does not want slaves. Serve God. Free your mind.
>>41659021>Are you sure about that?I'm certain that anyone that is trying to control me through fear does not have my best interests at heart.
>>41657561>>41657585So you two think genuinely think summoning demons isn't a bad thing? There's more than one place on scripture that tells us to not do witchcraft (which is summoning demons)
OP you're like me from many years ago (if you're sincere and not a shill). you're on the right path man, Christianity is the truth. look up a pastor named "steven anderson" and watch his documentaries "marching to zion" and "babylon USA", then head over to "roundsaturnseye" channel (dw he's a Christian) and watch his videos. doreen virtue is another good one
>>41659208oh, and the vigilant christian mario, see if his videos are still on youtube. he has bunch of satans pawns constantly attacking him, and yes he suffered with porn and drug addiction, but his teachings are solid. ignore focusing on the character and focus on what hes saying...they came after this guy so hard back in 2015-2016 and shut down his channel. probably the most attacked Christian i know on youtube
>>41657349Luke 14:26If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.1 John 3:15Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.If you are a disciple of Jesus and have a brother, you are a murderer and don't have eternal life.OOOPS
>>41659718>my NDE is the only real NDE>all the other ones are demons or something>which wouldn't make sense because the bible says you go straight to jewsus for judgment>STOP ASKING QUESTIONS AND SUBSCRIBE TO JEWISH PSYOPSis this the best gaslight you abrahamic demiurge worshipers can come up with lmao
>>41657349>I've studied /ng/ posts for a long time. There are two kinds. Those that promote me as being the nobody, and those that promote another person than me as being the nobody.Clearly, any genius could see. My side is correct. Almost Wasted.
>>41659742I don't understand your response. I'm not OP. I quoted the Bible to point out that it has severe contradiction problems.
Hi op, thanks for the thread.the name jesus christ is charged with meaning, even if those using it or not consciously aware. the concept of christ, god incarnate, orients the human mind towards reality by definition. this makes flights of fantasy, like alien abduction, demonic attacks etc impossible. the stronger the charge, or ones connection to christ, the more it works. marshall mcluhan wrote about this. mediums, like tv radio or computers, shoot our consciousness away from its incorporated natural state, whether its to the cloud or into the dark recesses of your unincorporated mind. that's where the demons live. christ, being the perfect mediator, corrects that problem that. the medium, which is christ, is defined as the message, which is also christ. this orientation protects us from the demonic.with that orientation, you cant be gaslit. you cant be controlled.
>>41659925>this makes flights of fantasy, like alien abduction, demonic attacks etc impossiblehe didn't even save Paul from demonswhy do you keep lying
>>41657349 This logic is reductive: it treats Christian NDEs as authentic and all others as demonic. That is pure confirmation bias. This is not a genuine study; it is an attempt to weaponize a phenomenon in order to defend your own beliefs and attack the beliefs of others.In reality, the diversity of NDEs suggests that the divine meets us in a form aligned with our expectations. Buddhist monks, particularly in certain traditions like Tibetan Vajrayana, use these post-death visions as a route to enlightenment.>videosThese aren't independent researchers; they are Christians, just like you. A simple look at what they upload on their channels proves it.
The problem with studying NDE's is that you have to take their word for it. If you are sincere in faith, the Lord will show you it's real.
>>41657349>If you do evil, that's just because life is a play, and that was your role for this incarnation.Sounds like what Christ taught. Judas had to fulfill the prophecy since God's will is always done.
>>41659075Like people who threaten to destroy your life if you don't share their beliefs?
>>41660548>Judas had to fulfill the prophecy since God's will is always done.Incorrect. Jesus said it would've been better had he (Judas) would've never been born. It also says God wants all to be saved. Him knowing what would inevitably do doesnt mean that was their role and they had no choice. We see as early as Moses guiding Israel to the land that flows with milk and honey that the Lord told Moses that these (israel) stiffnecked people are going to recieve the land, eat their fill of it and inevitably turn to the false gods of the people who were driven away from it. Not because they lack free will and had to, but because God understands mankind better than mankind understands itself.
>>41659718First verse coincides with Jesus stating that He came not to bring peace but division. Meaning, His teachings were going to separate and destroy families. So the first verse ties to that teaching. By accepting Him, you will inevitably be turned against the people around you. And if you aren't willing to put your faith first before your family, then you're not cut out for the faith. The first commandment is first for a reason, because it surpasses all the others, including honoring your mother and father. So there's no contradictions, just confusion and misunderstanding on your end.
>>41660575>Him knowing what would inevitably do*what he would
>>41660493this
>>41659718And also consider the fact that for the second verse, brother implies a man of faith, not brother from blood as the first verse implies.
My heart stopped after a heroin overdose in 2024 and they had to revive me, but I don't have any memories from it. Been having hella weird experiences afterwards tho, esp during the night/trance states. Any reccomendations of how to recollect? I've already quit drugs and even the methadone. Or can answer any questions in general if you have some for me.
>>41659048>Everything not explicitly approved by a self-anointed priest class is demonic and must be destroyedThis is something I agree with Christians on, though more in the Egyptian sense. It's their Heaven death cult I don't like.
>>41660575>because God understands mankind better than mankind understands itselfYes, because he built mankind to act that way.
>>41660493You meant deductive not reductiveThere's only heaven and hell. There isn't a middle ground with ayylmaos and 0 consequences to your actions. You're given this time on earth to come to an understanding of sin and of a need for a saviour. Don't tell me that you don't have an inherent feeling of what is good to do and what s not. And don't tell me it's all subjective
>>41660610but it can also be a brother of blood you dense dumbass
>>41657469based
>>41660690eternal hell is retarded, most dharmic philosophies accept hell realms but they are temporary , the soul is absolutely eternal
>>41660958saying this as a hindu buddhists dont agree
If your main takeaway from paranormal research is that you believe it “backs up” the weird competitive team you are on, you’re not gonna make it. It’s like bragging that some atom has a right-ways spin because it implies right wing beliefs.
>>41660690 I won't tell you that. However, I will say the OP's logic is fundamentally flawed. His attempt to force a reconciliation between his biblical worldview and the factual evidence is transparent, especially given that NDEs are universal and not bound to Abrahamic religions. This contradiction is precisely why he must introduce the idea of demons, entities he claims have the power to determine the post-mortem fate of non-Christian souls. As far as I know, the Bible says nothing of the sort, which makes this his own fabrication. Therefore, the entire premise is complete nonsense.
>>41657484>dude these people from western christcuck societies had visions that align with christcuckinsanity! Isn't that amazing?!No, you're a retard.
>>41657349Bump.>>41657469You're Jewish.
What is with the influx of retards pushing Christianity on this board now?
>>41663716So was Jesus.
>>41657349>studiedbold claim>Those that promote Christianityincoherent incompatible ramblings that often describe slightly different sorts of christianity. which one is the truest?>another specific religionhow specifig is this religion? where is its holy text or priest? all we have is tons of gay ass fanfictions and hallucinations, some of them are also incompatible with each other>repelled if you say Jesus' namepeople in succ thread claim that succs aren't scared of Jesus. does that mean that they are not evil demons?
>>41663726they realized trump is a retard and they cant figure out anything to post on /pol/, so these sniveling maggots try to push their slave religion here
>>41663815They probably hate being on that board at all now because of all the obvious shilling which must get tiring to be around even if it's your own side and /x/ is way comfier.
>>41663726they hope to convert people who may look susceptible to their proselytizing, like /x/ schizos, addicts, gooners, succ summoners and so on>>41663834or maybe they want to turn more people against them and then play victim "oh no! satan's hellspawns attack me! this proves that i'm right!"
>>41663850They do seem to like preying on the weak and vulnerable, much like a predator would.
>>41663727Jesus wasn't Jewish. He followed the ancient Israelite religion (which is not what we today call Judaism). Git gud.
>>41657349Post the bible verse that claims demons will have you see fake afterlife experiences
>>41663726A gnostic from /x/ did the impossible...
>>41663865>"Of course, Jesus was a Jew. He was born of a Jewish mother, in Galilee, a Jewish part of the world. All of his friends, associates, colleagues, disciples, all of them were Jews. He regularly worshipped in Jewish communal worship, what we call synagogues."Idk man that's not what the internet says, also I doubt Jesus would appreciate you using Jewish as an insult regardless.
>>41663868some orthodox guys believe in the ordeals, when demons test or seduce soul on the way to heaven with different vices
>>41663865Switching switching switching. Your Jesus was ETHNICALLY jew. Fuck.
>be me>Fuck you, I'll do what I want>Behave like a demon>XXX years ov Blasphemy >One day, do meditation >Image flashes in minds eye (contents hidden to catch a larp).>Night falls>Mind expands, unique divine energy in chest>Fast forward>*Soulfly music starts playing*https://youtu.be/uqqswu-VzDs?si=mQIt-m1YeBw6yypW>Hellish gnosis received>Strange things are known >From the future, such as the future coming of atlas 3i (predicted on Quora)>Weird abilities received/developed>I am demon god, haaver of gnosis>*Kills Jesus*>*Other Demon gods join in, gods of light die>Atlas 3i arrives>Hell installing commences...
this may look unfair from the point of view of a "humble" human being that never gets the luxury to cheat death or false NDE and get the "truest" information from above. some people don't even get any mystical experience at all despite trying anything to break the veil, or at least that's what they claimchristian god is a "funny" guy for sure. he tests some people with false heavenly visions, some with earthly vices, and some with absence of any supernatural evidence at all
>>41663909Christians are even funnier, they all know whats what, but a few changes on meaning and we're golden
>>41657349you won't like the way this turns out. probably none of you will.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPHyR92MQic
>>41658999>Christians NEED a hell to existExplain denominations that believe in Annihilationism then like the Seventh Day Adventists.
>>41657349Religion is for controlable retards.God is real but Jews Muslims and Christians believe in total bullshit created by stupid assholes.
>>41664579good morning sir
if even one paranormal thing is ever proven then the bible is undoubtedly real. after researching the paranormal for years myself i arrived right back af the bible and it explains everything perfectly and logically. of you take the time to try and understand and comprehend both paranormal and biblical worlds you will see that they are not separated at all. they are directly related and one without the other is nonsensical
>>41664725>after researching the paranormal for years myself i arrived right back af the bible and it explains everything perfectly and logically>but you guys have to DYOR lol good luckwould you like to share at least some of your thoughts or findings?
>>41658841Newfag
Nothing really new here. This kind of stuff has been known and described for centuries already and keeps being rediscovered. Early monks and saints already knew to be wary of false visions as prelest and associated deceiving demons as aerial beings. For 2000 years the same stories come up of demons being repelled by Jesus' name.You see the signs with modern spiritually ungrounded people who take their visions (psychedelics, NDEs, meditation etc.) at face value and develop messiah complexes, cults, holier-than-thou attitudes and other hubris that take over their lives. You get those new age influencers/teachers like McKenna who just go fucking mental, even keeping up false dishonest appearances to keep their message going. Their lives end up a mess despite all the "enlightenment" or "revelation". Same with occult practitioners. It is actually mad how normally sceptical and discerning people immediately drop all guards and believe anything as soon as they themselves have a "mystical experience".By their fruits you'll know them. It's telling that while eastern-based new age spirituality is pushed hard, suicides and madness are an open secret among meditation retreats etc. They know their practices and believes can take people to conclusions where suicide becomes a spiritually sound option, or otherwise totally lose the plot, but brush it under the carpet and shun anyone who speaks out. Even when I was on the meditation bandwagon I had a sense to not recommend it to anyone. Same for more embarassing occultic stuff.I.e. Overindulgence in anything /x/-rated doesn't lead to a good place. You should know by now that /x/-related online or irl groups don't exactly consist of the most sound minds. Yours and mine included.
>>41665247>This kind of stuff has been known and described for centuries already and keeps being rediscoveredProve it. Show me a canonical text that describes the demons who decide the fate of non-Christian souls after death. You're a textbook heretic, kek.>Early monks and saints already knew to be wary of false visions as prelest and associated deceiving demons as aerial beings. For 2000 years the same stories come up of demons being repelled by Jesus' name. You see the signs with modern spiritually ungrounded people who take their visions (psychedelics, NDEs, meditation etc.) at face value and develop messiah complexes, cults, holier-than-thou attitudes and other hubris that take over their lives.You claim to know shit but you don't. You only make claims for no reason at all. You have zero personal experience, zero personal interaction with the spiritual world, yet you talk about it like you know shit. You don't.>McKennaThis guy was a free thinker. A breath of fresh air for his time. He made claims from his personal experience, which you completely lack.>Same with occult practitionersYou don't know shit. You make claims that mean nothing and expect to be believed. Western atheism is Christianity's fault. A direct result of people lacking the spiritual experience your institutional Christianity fails to provide. All you know is how to read your book.
>>41665247Gentlemen, everything I don't like is prelest (a Christian concept) so it's prelest because I'm right. That's right, for prelest to be real, jew worship must be real, so it is. Lmao
>>41665247Hello, dear anon, is prelest when a retarded priest, with shitty training, leaves a trace of mud steps on my home? Because mud steps arent prelest. And trojan horses in mobile phones arent prelest either. You're making claims about people, then declaring your religion true, because the world spawned with grown up adults and holy books hanging from trees like testicles. >Muh fear this and that or elseLmao
>>41665247Yes anon, all our life experience which we took the sense to verify again and again, is a lie, everything was made for jews.How could we think otherwise... My claims are nonsense for you, but they're just a basic claim. I'm gonna post my claim, and then post the Christian equivalent. I behaved my whole life like a scoundrel, tookup meditation, and got a dark cheevo (demonic path) of becoming one with Darkness Divine.The Christian equivalent is: I repented, threw 5 d20s and rolled for salvation. For some reason, if your spiritual liberation includes any supernatural elements, it's fake. Because being saved ought not be different from being conned.
