99.9999% of suffering is directly caused by humans. We could all live like the hobbits in Lord of the rings, but choose not too. War, murder, rape, inequality; caused by humans. Even most diseases are caused by malnutrition and man made pollutant exposure. Plus if you don't believe in God you don't have any justification for morality anyways. You are all a bunch of slimey cowards, the "demiurge" is a false characterisation of God. We are our own imprisoners.
>>41662700>In Buddhism, there isn’t an absolute creator who governs and controls everything. If there were a God like that, he would be doing a poor job in this world with so much suffering. Why would God allow his creation to suffer? Why is there suffering and evil in the first place? All of these problems do not seem to have logical explanations.
Even stuff like car crashes, or a lumberjack being crushed by a tree are due to laziness, incompetence and our greedy desire for expansionism. But you may say "I didn't sign up for this". Yes you fucking did, every day and you do things that are selfish or affect others. You are to blame not God.
>>41662714If a mother births a child, and he grows up to be a serial killer we don't not blame the mother. Why do we hold God to a different standard? He created us with the ability to not kill, but we do it anyways.
>>41662700In your story, your god makes the potential for all sorts of horrific things to arise. When he didn't have to. He could of just stayed in pure peace. He could have made perfect beings who have free will. Isn't he perfect? Doesn't he have free will? But no, he was in the mood for child cancer to be a possibility.If you claim your God is all powerful and all knowing, then he is responsible for every single thing which he creates. That includes potentialities.
>>41662728Okay but what about natural disasters? Do we blame people for wanting to have a house when it gets smashed by God's tornado and kills the kids?
>>41662733Anyone that thinks non existence is preferable to this existence is a pathetic manchild.
>>41662733The only real excuse is that it's all a simulation and doesn't really matter anyway, and that the experience of good and bad is what we sign up for. Basically seperation from Goodness/Unity to later appreciate it, or whatever
>>41662736All natural disaster deaths are caused by greed/attachment to possessions. If the people left their house behind they would survive with a newfound appreciation for life. Instead they risk their lives for a box of wood and pay appropriately.
>>41662744Yes, basically freedom and sovereignty of consciousness is the whole of the Law here.No conscious being should be forced into anything.All limitations are engineered and for the sake of play. No conscious being is truly limited. There are no 'dumb' conscious beings who need a lesson world or a school world.
>>41662748Yeah I'm sure people never die in any situation where they can't be blamed for it in some way
There is no need.There is no lesson.There is only Freedom, Sovereignty, and Play.
>>41662700Congratulations, you nailed itIts never God's fault, its always man's own distortions that cause suffering
>>41662736You only feel its so terrible because you are experientially bound in the system. Once you leave, you realize the kids are not dead. The pain was does not last forever. True enlightenment is the realization that pain and pleasure are illusions that can be overcome. Pain is necessary but suffering may be overcome and you become greater than if you had not suffered to begin with. You will understand when you exit an era of hardship in your life and look back on it with greater understanding.
>>41662754There are very few deaths not caused by someone's own actions or the actions of another. It's literally only insanely rare occurrences like a sinkhole opening under you while you sleep.
>>41662700I agree with you but 99.9999 percent is a little too high. Nature (or science if you're a redditor) also has to cause suffering to exist. Mass floods, meteor strikes, wildfires, all go back to prehistory.
>>41662700Who the fuck is "we", cellphone ape?
>>41662700>War, murder, rape, inequality; caused by humans.God made a universe where life must fight to death to occupy resources.War, murder, rape, and inequality are God's inventions and the "Chosen People" are commanded to commit these atrocities on the goyim in the Old Testament.
>>41663067>the "Chosen People"they belive that earth is cursed because some bad apple or whatever
>>41662700No, suffering is 100% caused by the pre frontal cortex.
>>41662700>nature is full of rape, hunger, torture, stress, organs being devoured while the animal is still alive and struggling>insects crawling everywhere sucking blood, spreading disease, putting eggs into your eyes>natural weather striking down and killing animals all the timeYeah nature is pure peace you fucking mong.
>>41662728>Why do we hold God to a different standard?Because god is all knowing, omnipresent and omnipotent. So, he is in complete capacity to change things; unlike the mother.>He created us with the ability to not killAnd with the ability to kill too. So?
>>41662700We are our own demiurges.
>>41662700The world is inherently bad because God is bad. The proof that the world is bad is that the default condition of life is bad (starvation, exposure to elements/predators, boredom, loneliness, etc) and the things that have to be done (physically/mentally harmful labor, submission to domination/abuse/sadism, etc) to cancel out the default negative condition of life and achieve homeostasis are themselves inherently bad/negative things, such that it's impossible for most people to even achieve a neutral or stable condition of life, instead having to choose between two bad conditions. Meanwhile anything even remotely good is violently gatekept, a consistently "good" condition of life practically only exists in the realm of fantasy/imagination, and even the THOUGHT or IDEA of good conditions of life are violently gatekept, even thinking about having desirable things will cause me to be abused because the inherent nature of this world is bad, the default condition of life is bad, good things are violently gatekept, it's nearly impossible to even achieve a neutral or stable condition of life and good conditions of life only exist in fantasy.
>>41662700But proper gnostic people do belive in divinity though .In some maner at least.
>>41662700There's supernatural intelligence at work, those in the occult that cause human suffering worship these entities mainly Lucifer and Baal. God wakes people up to the soul trap but it is a choice we have to make.
>>41663510Acknowledging ill intent remind you it could be holier than thou pricks hating on happy pagans
>>41663311Everything comes from God yes, but this is a simulation. What happens here is a blimp in our existence as self aware beings.
>>41663520Yes that is because of the Judeo Roman hijack of Christianity. Abrahamic religions are ultimately a tool of control and the spiritual teachings of Jesus/yeshua get replaced with blind obedience.
>>41663520They believe in a God that demands suffering and sacrifice, what is important to God is if the suffering and sacrifice is done out of love for him and creation.
>>41663541Love is tough to deny by god easy by humansI believe the suffering is us being wrong
>>41663532Judeo GREEK. Early Roman Pantheon was totally fuckin different. Greek and Hebrew mythology are basically one staring in a mirror.
