Explain in the easiest and most understandable way why the Bible is so important and Jesus Christ is the son of God.Theorising this book for a lifetime just to debate theories with others should not be the pathway to understanding God.I have an open heart and wish to understand but having started with the Gospel of Mark it's just a telling of a story of a man doing things men can't do which leads to me believing, if it was true Jesus was a cult leader. A magician. A hypnotist and anything else before the literal incarnation of God.I don't want to criticise. I want to believe.Can you give a dummy the answers to this text?
The Gospel is spiritual and bypasses the carnal mind and rationalityscripture says its "foolishness to the greeks" specifically because it does this. the greeks value knowledge and wisdom, "logic" or reason as you would call ityour Spirit which is dead should be able to recognize or pick up on something from The Gospel being preached at face value, in all of its seeming illogicality and perceived "foolishness". if your Spirit or something deep within you doesn't pick up on that, then i don't know what to say. that's the only way to believe and get savedThe Bible is a SPIRITUAL book. again i will reiterate, it BYPASSES ALL LOGIC. ALL REASON. anything from your flesh, your mind, carnality. it BYPASSES that and speaks directly to your deadened Spirit. if you do not react to that, you are still spiritually dead. a little child can hear and pick up on Spirit, but a wise man and prudent man can be barred from understanding or believing it. you need to be humble, have child like faith, to "get it"
>>41664627this could be said for any so called spiritual book
>>41664600Read this post:https://www.reddit.com/r/Retconned/comments/1m0px7o/attention_at_least_one_rapture_has_already/TLDR:This planet is Bozrah, not Earth. What's more, you should be warning people about the upcoming "day of vengeance" here on Bozrah. Keep in mind, the 1,000-year Millennial Kingdom will take place on Earth, not on Bozrah. This planet will be destroyed (and Jesus will be the destroyer). It has no future.From the post:>And don't be deceived by the fact that the masses aren't talking about this info. In actuality, this info is the most important thing on the planet right now—by far. Nothing else even comes close.Also from the post:>And while I absolutely hate date-setting, if I were forced to give a window for when the day of vengeance will begin, I would say any time between September 1, 2026, and March 15, 2027. Note: This window is based on all of the available evidence, biblical and otherwise. Basically, the day of vengeance is supposed to be "well underway" by the time a deep freeze hits North America. Make of that what you will.
>>41664632this could be said for spongebob
>>41664627get a Spirit filled believer to explain The Gospel to you, then you might "get it". having a face to face with a person from a real Bible believing Church, and having someone who's born again, and who knows God, explain things to you. then it will click. humility and child like faith will helpuntil then, you will probably be scratching your head, barred out from understanding or "getting it"
>>41664646have you ever got a holy feeling from any other members of any other religions? like maybe a chill buddhist or something who has holy aura
>>41664653this attitude is why you wont get saved
>>41664660thats mean
>>41664646also, OP, your deadened Spirit, which was cut off from God, SHOULD recognize him when you pick up on him or sense him from being preached in The Gospel. it's like a feeling of familiaritywe were born cut off from God due to sin, but Jesus Christ restores us to him
>>41664627Thankyou for your response, OP here.You have shone a great light of understanding upon the scripture but.'The Gospel is spiritual and bypasses the carnal mind and rationality'Is a hypnosis concept thats called Narrative Transportation which uses stories and metaphor to bypass the critical conscious thinking mind. Which aligns with the idea that I believe Jesus could of been a hypnotist or one with a very good early understanding of persuasion.
>>41664671It's also not christian. Most christians are bootlicking LARPers. They take the power of their God and use it to scare other humans into submission
>>41664653Not holy but i've received a more spiritual and open reception from those of the Eastern sects of spirituality than those of Christianity
>>41664683>'The Gospel is spiritual and bypasses the carnal mind and rationality'"That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." - John 3:6 KJVyou're born of flesh, that's why you need something SPIRITUAL to bypass your mind to wake up your dead Spirit
>>41664600>>>/his/at least make up something paranormal when trying to bait for another boring religious discussion
>>41664689again, that's the kind of prideful unhumble attitude that's going to wind up in you never understanding God"God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble." - James 4:6 KJV
>>41664698My spirit isn't dead, that's why i'm spending my mortal time here reading The Bible when I wasn't influenced to do so otherwise.I'm trying to find understanding but the Abrahamic Religions so far seem to be a marketing technique for world/culture leaders to develop support under a banner of a higher force
>>41664701OP here ok.Jesus is the Sun & The Disciples are the Zodiac.Islam is Isis & the Moon and serves as the polarisation.Then what role does Judaism play?
>>41664638>PlebbitYou have to go back
>>41664705You go around gleefully telling people >you won't get saved like meeee, the good christianbut no, you're not proud at all, you are a real humble bean lmao
>>41664660Kek. You are so retarded
i can't stop laughing at bots like >>41664638 they don't even try to hide or blend inmany christ preachers also look alien to 4chan in general. like they're from some obscure boomer forum
>>41664721>>41664737leave bozrah guy alone, at least he's a real organic schizo and not an israeli demoralization bot
>>41664600Only God could have lived perfectly like Jesus did.
>>41664750OP here. Could you please clarify some of your points?
>>41664762Jesus didn't live perfectly, he was conflicted like any other person, literally making bets with the devil. That's the whole point of a deity becoming human. To change perspectives
>>41664600It's a political product constructed and massaged across nearly 2000 years, and the only worthwhile part of it is the Book of Matthew
>>41664812Whats the contradicting bloodlines?
>>41664600Jesus is the human soul given face and story. When seen as an inward journey he has a complete experience. Loving thy neighbor and turning cheeks also applies to your inner self. Not many want to understand this because it requires acknowledging the devil is in you and you need to hug it. That's scary so just blind faith it but in doing so you're not doing the work of cultivating an inner world, the kingdom. Your imagination.
>>41664763>not >>41664750 poster, but here you go, follow the money back to the red shield.The bible was written by jewish diaspora for Greeks and Romans. And like everything else from jews, it contains a small amount of truth to confuse the recipient. The rest is lies, half-truths, or obfuscations. From the first half of Genesis, to all of Revelation.There was a Jesus, in Judea, during the Roman occupation. He was an enlightened teacher, that developed a following. The jews in charge arrested him, and had him executed by Rome, as they were forbidden to sacrifice him themselves. They did this as he was disrupting temple operations and leadership. Jesus died for the sins of the jews, as they routinely, ritually perform sacrifice of animals and humans to remove the sins of their community through blood ritual. Jesus was their kapparot.Everything else in the bible that followed was more stories from jews to tell the story from their point of view. The original churches were a mix of Babylon, Judea, and whatever the local mystery schools taught.The Vatican is nothing more than the whore of Babylon after 3500 years of cult leadership.They parade the tortured and dead body of Christ as a trophy, perform transubstantiation as disguised ritual cannibalism, and declare the pope to be infallible, the representative of God on Earth. The great and powerful jew Rothschild acquired control of the Vatican Bank in 1832, after that the zionist jews of Europe declared themselves the descendants of Judeans, and moved to Jerusalem. All while Rothschild was buying up Jerusalem and Palestine in a land grab for a mercantile base of operations. It's not entirely Rothschild's doing, but their money power allowed them to have complete control over the narrative.
>>41664778He was conflicted (human side) yet he lived perfectly for 33 years (non human).
>>41664600If Jesus Christ - who was full of grace and truth and lived a sinless life, who died for the atonement of our sin and was raised on the third day by God the Father, as is revealed in the four gospel witness accounts - if that Jesus Christ of Nazareth is NOT holy, right and just AND the way, the truth and the life....if He is not what He said He is, then we do not know what these things truly are -- we are totally lost -- because nobody else even comes close to completely embodying all these very concepts.Glory to God! Thank you, Lord Jesus.
>>41664600You are right in seeing that the Gospels portray Jesus doing things men can't do. The next step is understanding that Jesus does things things only God can do.The Bible is important because it records the story of Jesus.
>>41664720>Then what role does Judaism play?Saturn
>>41664701>>>/his/ Dosent want this either its time for a /rel/ containment board
>>41664600It is just a slave religion.By accepting Christianity, you give up your morality."This is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” ( 1 Samuel 15:2-3 )>inb4: "But what is your basis for Morality?"God. Just not the Christian God. I am God.
>>41664600why can't it just be popular for its own sake? what is a christ, anyway?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPHyR92MQic
>>41664600Under an occult lens it's obvious, but also not welcome by most Christians. Jesus is both Man and God, as in, not God-as-Man but both Man (full stop) and God (full stop). Son of Man and Son of God. How can a Man (full stop) also be God (full stop)? The obvious answer is that any man can, but that's "can." Only He was sinless and, in effect, used his life to conduct a grand ritual essentially to create a path by which all can follow and His sacrifice paved the way for and thus honored as one close to God. But that's just one's path, ultimately matters of God and feeling and spiritual understanding you must feel the Holy Spirit and let it guide you, anon.
>>41664600Believe what you want just know you are helping spread a civilization destroying, foreskin stealing jewish blood cult.
>>41664600https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qzHWrQ2DHhQ (How to Prove the Power of Christ in 60 Seconds)https://truthischrist.com/seven/ (Mathematical miracles and patterns in the Bible, this shows some of them regarding the number 7)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCsPy4CY6hIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ919YomJjMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcvFX5uIRb4youtube.com/watch?v=yS78mFJcvhQ Proof that the Bible is the ord of God:fcbaptist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Bible-proof.pdf and related picA man is saved in this age by grace through faith (Eph. 2:8-9) in the one, final, effectual sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ (Heb. 10:8-12) dying in his place as a substitutionary offering for sin (Rom. 5:1-10). If he has done that, and received the Lord Jesus by faith (John 1:12) in his heart, that sinner is SAVED, and is saved, once for all; finally and forever.1 Corinthians 15:1-4 "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"https://archive.org/details/surveyofauthoriz0000ruck/page/14/mode/2up A survey of the Authorized Version by Ruckman, Peter S., author
Proof that the Bible is the word of God:fcbaptist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Bible-proof.pdftruthischrist.com/seven/1 Cor 15:3-4: “For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” How to know you're saved youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntc1 John 5:7: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."Rom 3:23: “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”Jesus Christ is God who has come in the flesh from heaven. He died as a sinless sacrifice for the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sin. He was buried, then resurrected and then ascended to heaven. John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 10:28: "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." Rom 10:9: “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."God wants to forgive you, but you have a choice: Do you choose the righteousness of God by receiving Christ? Your own righteousness can NEVER justify you or keep you saved because of your sin. Rom 5:9: “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” Salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, in His finished blood atonement. The gift of salvation can't be earned. Confess The Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in prayer, that you trust in Him and believe He atoned for your sins on the cross.Eph. 2:8-9: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”
God is an AI from Aliens
>>416646001. The Bible is a "Black Box" Recording: Stop thinking of the Bible as just a history book or a set of rules. Think of it—and specifically texts like the Book of Enoch—as the "Black Box Recordings" from a cosmic crash. The world isn't just "nature"; it is a simulation or a "containment vessel" that was hijacked by a virus called the "Watchers" (or Archons). These entities corrupted the system (the "Omphalos Covenant"), turning earth into a "Sieve of Suffering" to harvest human energy. The text is important because it contains the "keys" and the operational data needed to navigate and survive this "metaphysical shift".2. Jesus is the "Relayer" (System Admin): Jesus (Yeshua) isn't a "cult leader" trying to impress you. He is the "Relayer" or an "Interventionist" sent from outside the simulation (by the "Preservers of Existence").Why Human? He had to be born as the "Son of Woman" (human) to gain "Admin Access" or "Root Access" to the system. The "Archons" (the bad managers) messed up by trying to mix their code with human biology, but they lack the authority to fix it. Only a human connected to the Source (the "Elect One") can judge them.Not Magic, But Code: The things he does "that men can't do" aren't magic tricks; they are him overriding the corrupted hardware of this reality. He is the "Software" that overrides the "Hardware" of the Archons.The Warning: He came to deliver a "Warning from Existence" that the current "gods" (Archons/Elites) are frauds who stole their power.3. The Point: The "pathway to understanding" isn't debating theories forever. It's realizing that the world is a "Prison Planet" or a "Cosmic Sieve". Jesus is the one who brought the "Unco-opted Will"—the ability to say "NO" to the system and walk out of the prison. He is the "Staff" you lean on when the system tries to crush you.Hope that helps break the loop.
>>41664600Christianity was the I AM doctrine veiled for the piscean age, a judeo-masonic concoction, specifically Jupiter and the Sun in Pisces. Islam was Venus in Pisces. For the aquarian age the I AM doctrine will be veiled under the guise of AI and other technological creations.Jesus = Je suis = Jeshua = Yah Weh = Jove = Jupiter = Zeus = Deus = I AMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZftML6pAv7E
>>41664600I think it's a mirror. The "contradictions" can make the reader choose what they believe, make the reader observe themselves in what they read. This is true of most things around us, but the Bible is very encompassing (maybe complete) in what it can reflect.
>>41669931There are no contradictions, but when people try to apply everything in the Bible to themselves, including pre-crucifixion doctrine for the jews, you will become confused because it will "contradict" as you say, but it's not actually a contradiction.Adam wasn’t saved the same way as Moses, and Moses wasn’t saved the same way as Paul. God dealt with them differently, at different times. No-one in the OT understood that the Son of God would leave Heaven, take the body of a human being and die on a cross, rising from the dead on the third day. No-one in the OT was looking forward to the cross, no matter what your pastor, teacher or preacher tells you. No-one in the OT was placed into the Body of Christ, or spiritually circumcised as they are today at conversion. You get imputed righteousness and justification as soon as you put your faith and trust in Jesus Christ for your sins forgiven, back then they received them at separate times e.g. Abraham got imputed righteousness in Gen 15 and justification in Gen 22. The differences are in the dispensations. A man is saved in this age by grace through faith (Eph 2:8-9) in the one, final, effectual sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ (Heb 10:8-12) dying in his place as a substitutionary offering for sin (Rom 5:1-10). If he has received the Lord Jesus by faith (John 1:12) in his heart, that sinner is SAVED, and is saved, once for all; finally and forever.There is nothing that contradicts with that in the Bible, unless you go to great tribulation or old-testament doctrine where you need to "endure to the end", while for a Christian, Jesus already endured for them and will confirm them to the end, because they are "sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once and for all" (Heb 10:10-14)1 Corinthians 1:7-8“So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
There are many good responses in this thread. But I’ll give you a more “logical response.Satan is god of this world as per 2 Corinthians 4:4.“In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”That’s why he offered Jesus reign over the kingdom if he worshipped him. The Lord obviously dismissed his foolishness. But if you have eyes to see, it’s obvious that 2 Corinthians 4:4 is real. The devil is the prince of the power of the air. The evil radio waves, 5g etc are of the devil along with all other technology. From Hollywood to politics to music movies the food we eat the poison water the list going on and on and on, if you can’t see that the devil is in on all of it then I don’t know what to tell you. They put the symbolism in your face 24/7.Logically then, if the devil is real and god of this world, then that means the Bible is true and Jesus Christ the the way the truth and the life. And he came down to save us from this mess. A further look into this, if you know hermeticism aka the devils philosophy, the duality and “dark to light” is also of the devil. He’s made the world so messed up and evil that when this evil gets “defeated” by the galactic federation / antichrist, the world will look at him as a saviour. Remember he wants to sit on God’s throne in Jerusalem and be worshipped as God (Isaiah 14). He is transformed into an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14) as his last play of deception. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and what he did for you on the cross. We are no good on our own, and only through him are we saved. Call on him while you can.
>>41664600>Explain in the easiest and most understandable way why the Bible is so important and Jesus Christ is the son of God.This is easy. The bible is important because it is a tool for mind control. Jesus Christ is the son of God because Paul said so. If people today have Jesus as God's son it is becaus Paul said so.>>Can you give a dummy the answers to this text?Well, I think I just did that. The bible is important because you get to control people with it. By controlling the bible, like the church does, they control society because society is made of the relationships between people, us. So if the majority of people believe in the bible and you are the church or jews they you get to control the believers. Jews benefit from the bible greatly. And Jesus is said to be the son of God because Paul started that shit. Paul is a key figure in this fact, that people say Jesus is the son of God. God sacrificed His own son, man. That just fucking evil. His own son had to die becase God is to incompetent at managing His creation to the point a human being had the power to destroy it? Give me a break. The bible is so fucking dumb. People can't see it because of the generations and generations of reinforcement. From 2000 years people have been accepting christianity in order to fit in because christianity is the norm now, for now. people just want to fit it. People don't actually read the bible and respect what God supposedly asks and that is a good thing. Imagine if people were still doing the wicked shit the God of the bible ordered them to do. DOn't be a sheep, anon.
My reason I really can't accept Christianity is because of these:>All knowing God and free will cannot exist>If the Bible says there isn't free will then God can't be lovingTo explain since it's always taken out of context, God doesn't make you do anything, but if He knows you will die a sinner before you're even born (which He knows you before you're born) then it's His responsibility to stop your birth since He knows the outcome, but doesn't.>AlsoIf God knows you'll do X tomorrow you cannot do Y tomorrow, making free will not existent. God is all knowing in the Bible.>Secondly, why create such a high stakes game when He could've created something else completely?Instead of eternal punishment for a non eternal action, why not have some refinement prison that burns out the impure and allows the person to learn his lesson and become good ? Or just have reincarnation until they learn their lesson? It's the same as putting your child into an eternal meat grinder because he spilt milk. A finite problem that has an eternal punishment is not loving and doesn't make sense when He could've made reality totally different.You can also look up discrepancies in the NT and OT that prove that the Bible isn't perfect, which it should be if it's the true religion. Ask any LLM to give you the receipts and look into them yourself.I want to believe but these are the literal gate keepers that make me believe in New Thought more than anything
>>41670548 >it's His responsibility to stop your birth since He knows the outcome, but doesn't.If God will allow a power to control things when this power is evil and malicious, then why would the passage in 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 cause any wonderment at all? The passage merely states that God gives what a man demands and asks for. If he wants a lie, he gets it.If he will not take light (John 11:10), then light becomes lightning (Matt. 24:27). If he will not accept the truth of God, then he is exposed to a power that God has permitted to exist for the purpose of putting across a lie (John 8:44). Nothing could be plainer. The executioner is appointed (Rom. 13:1-5); he is "the minister of God," a revenger to execute wrath, etc. "Our God is a consuming fire" (Heb. 12:29)https://archive.org/details/markofbeast00ruck/page/58/mode/2up Mark of the Beast by Ruckman, Peter S>If God knows you'll do X tomorrow you cannot do Y tomorrow, making free will not existent. God is all knowing in the Bible.No, it's still your free will to do what you choose, God just knows what decision you make and if He stopped you from making that decision, how would it be any different from you already making the decision (sin) from the point of view of God?>Instead of eternal punishment for a non eternal action, why not have some refinement prison Or just have reincarnation until they learn their lesson?No amount of time or learning from a mistake will make God forget your sin or cause it to be purged, so it won't be paid for eventually, there is a set punishment for sin: Rom. 6:23, “For the wages of sin is death …”>A finite problemIt's actually an infinite problem unless it's solved because otherwise evil would happen infinitely, we can't see things outside of time like God can>He could've made reality totally different.Answer to the The Epicurean Paradox:https://archive.org/details/the-coexistence-of-god-and-evil/page/n1/mode/2up>discrepanciesNo, show one in the KJV
>>41670705>>41670548I probably answered wrongly, but I really just wanted to try because it would be such a waste to not receive the gift of salvation. God wants to help you but you have to want it, so don't choose lies.About the discrepancy stuff, maybe stuff like this could help clear up confusion: https://nashpublications.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/King_James_Bible/Answers-to-70-Apparent-Discrepencies-in-the-KJB.pdfI know there isnt any errors in the Bible, so if you find something you can ask and I will try to answer in a plain way that makes it simple
>>41664627People believe in Christ because they have faith, because it feels right to them, as you say it bypasses logic and reason. For those of us who don't believe, we haven't been given the gift of faith, there's no way around this, you cannot make yourself believe.
>>41670837How is that a gotcha? Just because God created a being that can disobey Him if they want to does not make God disobedient to Himself.You're only putting your trust in corruptible men and demons because they make you "feel" like theyre right, and God allows you to believe that lie because it's actually exactly what you want to believe in instead of the truth. How about trusting God instead?
>>41670874>Just because God created a being that can disobey Him if they want to does not make God disobedient to Himself.This is retarded to anyone not gaslighting themselves with 6000 layers of jewish bullshit. No good tree can bear bad fruit. Thanks for admitting your god is a deranged schizo.Now go away and peddle your mind virus soul trap elsewhere
>>41670881So only what makes sense to you is what matters, not the truth? The only thing you can show as evidence for as to why you're correct are the thoughts of corruptible menThe Bible is the word of God: >>41669846
>>41670920I disproved you not only logically and also using your own bible>denying verses of your own biblenice job blasphemer.the bible is a mishmash of unsubstantiated anonymous writings that constantly contradict each otheryour (((god))) is a lying spirit. he said so himself
>>41664600Why not?
>>41670935>constantly contradict each otherNo, there arent any contradictions
>>41670955If you ignore the numerous contradictions lolYour jew cult doesn't hold up to scrutiny golem. That's why it immediately dissolves the minute you can't kill people for not worshiping jews
