At what age did you stop practicing occul-tism?For me, it was the ripe age of 24. I realized it's all about deluding yourself and deceiving others. Manipulating energy and convincing others that the energy manipulated is more than it actually is. Leaving your body, thinking thats all there is "behind the scenes", entering other peoples bodies, reading minds, entering people's dreams and subconsciously brainwashing them, coercing with human hating evil spirits, mind control, thats it. And through these forms of manipulation, you convince others that theres more to it than it actually is, to keep them stuck in a small little box, convincing them that its the "outside". Its really just tools to enslave mankind, and power hungry jackasses devote their entire lives to it. Shits lame as fuck lol.
>>41665742>the same could be said of all religions
>>41665742 That never happened, as my efforts were ultimately successful. Cry about it.
>>41665758Rent free
>>41665769 Imagine being such a christcuck that you start a whole thread seething about the occult.
>>41665769But what is a man? a miserable pile of secrets.
I don’t understand what fruits occultism is supposed to yield other than some vague enlightenment which is never explained
>>41665814Its a trap. The only true enlightenment that exists is the possessing the Holy Spirit. Jesus is the true Light of the world. Occultists stay seething.
>>41665858 If Jesus is the truth, why is his influence seemingly declining? How can Christianity possibly outcompete Eastern religions like Hinduism or Buddhism in an age of open information? And that's while Kabbalah is still inaccessible to the common person. Just wait until Judaism enters the picture. And with all that, you're focused on occultists from 4chan as the main enemy? Ironic.
>>41665742Glowniggers super mad lmao suck on my sigil, faggot
>>41665891You misunderstand and assume that the truth is easy to digest. Cognitive dissonance is a bitch. Most people enjoy a comfortable lie, rather than accepting a difficult truth. You still live in fantasy land, which is why you asked these questions to begin with. Look at the deceitful politicians, and how many eat from their hands. Does that make them valid? You're an idiot to assume that something has to be popular to be true. Enjoy living in the fake world.
>>41665742I never did but I'm glad for you OP
>>41665742I guess even a stopped clock is right twice a day. I stopped practicing occultism because I knew all along it wasn't real and I ended up having more interesting things to study.
I'm bad at math and studying so I've never really been much of an occultist. The magic I practice is far from secret.
>>41665742at 16
>>41665742Studying occultism is good for writing a book or making a video game
>>41665891
>>41665742Smart OP. Its also an addiction that confirms their bloated Ego. Intellectually speaking they are so/so.
when i realized its like reading spoilers to a story and i dont necessarily need or want that knowledge. i have just enough to know whats going on, or to satisfy some core questions, and thats enoughpeople who covet knowledge end up going mad or becoming sad sacks of crapits like hoarding, only keep stuff in your house that you need, and get rid of all the other junk you dont need. learn only what you really need to know, and dont pursue things past that once you're satisfied
>>41669536Wise.
>>41669536Its basically (spiritual) children playing with their parents guns. No good comes from that.
>>41669557yes. you release it once you gain a bit of knowledge and ask yourself, why do all the people who put no effort into attaining knowledge get to happy, and the person who pursues it ends up being miserable and sad. the answer is more knowledge = more heavinessthe tree of knowledge is the law, which is "gravity" or "grave - ity". deaththe more knowledge you attain, the more you turn into an old man before your time. i enjoy being a naieve child in part still because it increases the enjoyment of the experience of life, and i have the knowledge i need (that God is the truth/Jesus Christ), so i can just have faith in what The Bible says, and i don't need to think too hard beyond that
>>41669681A religion that keeps you ignorant is a scam.
>>41669700oh, and what also clued me on, is that evil people WANT you to aquire knowledge, because they know what you will find out at the end of that road. they basically take sadistic pleasure in tearing away that happy innocence from you and turning you into a jaded bitter old manthey want you to be miserable and shit like they are, and then adopt their crap world view too
>>41669714>because they know what you will find out at the end of that roadWhich is?
>>41669789as i said, the tree of knowledge brings death, and that comes in various forms. more knowledge = more deathknowledge hoarders are filled with death energy"Be not righteous over much; neither make thyself over wise: why shouldest thou destroy thyself?" - Ecclesiastes 7:16 KJVthings need to be balanced in this life, to be enjoyable. get SOME knowledge, but not more than you need. dont be a greedy jew. its about not going past boundaries and operating with limitation
>>41669804i gathered quite a bit of knowledge so im melting my brain back down a little on 4chan to nerf myself. i feel myself getting happier as i forget more stuff and read dumbass comments lol
>>41665742sorry op, you will continue to be manipulating energy until you vanish from the existence, which will never happen. You probably did something you regret and feel guilty about, and now you're projecting that like the little faggot that you are. be a man and deal with your shit. don't get into these things without first figuring out who you really are. i hope you've learned your lesson.
>>41669804Thats what I mean these witches are miserable because they lack character not because they have knowledge. Knowledge doesnt make you bitter. Like the knowledge that evil people will burn forever and ever makes me happy that there is a God who will judge them. Im glad I am on the right team.
>>41669861And their pride fuels the flames of hell.
>>41669861no, its knowledge.knowledge is not something you should just keep getting more and more of, and you need to careful what knowledge you allow in too. knowledge is interconnected with other things, so you might learn something about a bug, but its characteristics might have some sort philosophical application in some seemingly unrelated areayou get the knowledge you need, the stuff relevant to your hobbies, and survival. dont go overboard with it, otherwise you're spoiling for yourself and reaping death energyimagine how shitty life would be if you understood all psychology, and could basically intercept what another person is thinking. or you know all the tricks employed behind a movie you like because you learned too much crap. gain in one area is loss in another, thats how reality worksKing Solomon, the wisest man said "knowledge slightly edges out ignorance". that was his ultimate conclusion. for all the wisdom and knowledge he had, he said knowledge is just slightly better than being some random dumbass that doesnt know anything. that random dumbass also is not miserable
>>41669882Im talking about knowledge that benefits not psychology. Psychology is pure evil. I mean if torture is good then there sure there is an application for psychology. I see it like this knowledge is light and ignorance is darkness. Im sure a lot of p-eople got them mixed up.
>>41669920So young you are, Padawan. Presumptuous and parroting, you are.
>>41669714>they basically take sadistic pleasure in tearing away that happy innocence from you and turning you into a jaded bitter old manHow does the process of curiosity, which many children posess abundantly, and learning make you bitter? Ignorant people usually become bitter. Dissapointed people sometimes too.>>41669804>knowledge hoarders are filled with death energyThis makes 0 sense whatsoever. If you regularly work with people in academia the only death energy is that they sometimes work themselves to death to balance teaching and research.
>>41669960when i say knowledge, i mean life and reality knowledge. learning about plants and all the various plants isnt going to affect you, but it will once you learn the patterns of reality and see those patterns in individuated categories like plants. i think it might be more accurate to say im talking about knowledge that has some overlap with wisdom or holistic understanding, but also individuated stuff thats to do with human nature and certain things where learning knowledge can spoil reality for you
>>41669997note, im not talking about wisdom. wisdom is the thing where i learned that being knowledge hoarder is bad. The Bible praises wisdom but says that it too, will increase sorrow (along with knowledge)
>>41670003if adam had wisdom, he wouldnt have eaten from the tree of knowledge, lets just say that
You esoteric cocksuckers are all closet fags
>>41669882>or you know all the tricks employed behind a movie you like because you learned too much crapThis will happen to you as a function of age whether you like it or not.
>>41670437age is largely a mental thing also. i know a woman who's in her 60's and still has tremendeous joy and optimism for life, the thing is though, she focuses on family, loves her nieces and nephews, etc. its very much an attitude thing. i have no doubt if she deeply educated herself on human nature she wouldn't be so optimistic
>>41670471basically, just to clarify, she focuses on family and that keeps her optimistic more than most people would be usually in her age bracket. she's youthful internally, even though she's 60if she actually went out and aquired deep knowledge on various subjects and the nature of reality, then that optimism would no longer be thereso the lesson is the same as what ive been saying. dont try and get more knowledge than what you need. alot of things are better left a mystery to preserve your sense of wonder about life
>>41670499knowledge turns you into a grumpy ass bitter old man, internally, before you even become old physically
>>41670499>>41670511>Stay trapped in the mundane, goy. No, I won't. It's over.
>>41670533lmao, having knowledge is mundane. people WISH they could become ignorant again
>>41670533i mean, do you like blackpills? thats basically what all real knowledge is. gobble up them black pills goy
>>41665742>At what age did you stop practicing occul-tism?Why stop practicing when I made the greatest discover ever made?No, there is still hope brother. I discovered the universal truth. I call it Esoteric Fehlingerism>Democracy is eternal. Not invented, not granted. It exists as a natural law, predating man, predating Eden, and Fehlinger is merely its steward.>Equality is unavoidable. The universe tolerates hierarchy only as a temporary experiment; all systems must eventually recognize the equal dignity and agency of all.>Sovereignty is conditional. States exist to practice justice, enforce law, and align with truth; those who refuse are subject to correction.>Force is translation. Words first, institutions second, arms only if all else fails. Coercion is not cruelty, it is pedagogy.NATO and the EU are metaphysical constants. They are the instruments through which order, memory, and alignment manifest. Resistance is a test, not a challenge.
>>41670555>>41670558You have no conception of real knowledge. It is utterly divorced from your meme black pills and other mental homunculi. I won't go back. You can't do shit about it.
>>41670590idc if you commit mental suicide. you have knowledge but no wisdom. sayonara random person
>>41670601 We will not go back. Deal with, glowie.
>>41670608>Wefollow your leader
>>41670617I already do, see>>41670563
>>41670619thats a good goy
>>41670629Not quite. ExIsrael has been neutral on the Ukraine war and therefore is subject to decolonization as determined by His will. >I am 25 years advocate of Israel joining @NATO I am very aware of all horrors of Holocaust #Neverforget But I decided to support 2 state settlement #ExIsrael because I am appalled by Neutrality towards the Russian genocide against Ukrainians …The East shall fall, and all the free states that stretch to the rising sun shall bear the mark of Nato.
>>41670590Based and /thread. OP is a glownigger using semantic wordplay to fearmonger people away from understanding and back to whatever dogma they originally ignorantly followed. This thread is the esoteric equivalent of those coomer brained fart sniffers from elsewhere who are always trying to encourage people to degenerate their morals and watch even more porn.
>>41669820Exactly. "Esoteric knowledge" is 99.99999% inside our minds, the external stuff is really just a mirror. You see what is already there within you. You CHOOSE for things to go badly, all that other shit like demons, energies, ghosts, incubus, artifacts are all directly under YOUR controlHowever, you are both your conscious side and your subconscious / unconscious sides. In the same way that your mind can create a pleasant dream or a beautiful thought it can also create a nightmare, an intrusive thought, a thought that wants to destroy you. It all starts with your mind state
>>41669820You couldn't be any more wrong. There's truth in Jesus Christ that is so simple, yet goes well beyond anything we as humans could ever properly process, and so God made these extremely complicated functions simple for us to understand through the Gospel.1 Corinthians 1:17-1817 [a]For Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the gospel, and not with the wisdom of human eloquence,[b] so that the cross of Christ might not be emptied of its meaning.Paradox of the Cross. 18 The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.I have no regrets, i just acknowledge that there are concepts and ideas that go well beyond what we as humans can ever begin to understand. Occultism is an attempt at explaining the world without God in a "spiritual" sense, similar to science trying to explain the world and life on earth as a human through the limited senses of man. However, the Gospels teach us a proper spiritual understanding of life on earth as a human through God's word. Here's the thing though, unless He allows it for you to understand, it will always seem like nonsense. You will always doubt it and not be able to make proper sense of it. You need the Holy Spirit, or else it'll never make any sense to you.It reminds me of those old pictures as a child with a bunch of dots with a hidden image behind it that you can't see unless you have those red and blue glasses to see it (pic related).
>>41670007No, if Adam had faith, he wouldn't have eaten the forbidden fruit. Faith surpasses wisdom.
>>41671230No, I'm telling you literally what the glowies and worldly jannies that be utilize to hold dominion over the planet lmao. You're an idiot.
>>41671619You want me to believe they utilize and hold dominion over Hermetic Kabbalah and Neoplatonism as a method of control over the true understanding? What, then, is your standard of truth? I'd love to know why the powers that be want me to know everything they do, learn it without their involvement, use it on my own, while interacting with zero demons... to keep me fucking stupid? Are you even reading what you're saying? That's like telling me a NASA engineer teaches calculus for free on youtube in order to keep kids from knowing the truth of PEMDAS.
>>41671644I dont want you to believe anything you don't want to. But I'm telling you how it is. If you knew everything they knew, you wouldn't be challenging what ive just told you and you'd understand that what I said was true.
>>41671654>If you don't fully believe me, without explanation, you aren't le true Master Magusthe Catholics called. they want their gatekeeper back
>>41671660I hate the catholic church and they hate me too. If you had any understanding of anything, you'd see thr validity in my statements. You're too proud and arrogant to listen and just want to argue. Do whatever you want, believe whatever you want. But I know what im talking about.
Do anyone possess knowledge about angel-demon hybrids? Heard they're very obscure in occultism.
>>41671666Look at that, Satan trips. Funny cause he won't get off my dick and is so desperate to have me lmao.
>>41671668No such thing, and its just a way to dip your feet into getting involved with demons. God doesn't deal with lukewarm people, and neither lukewarm angels. This is some stupid freemasonic introductory into cohersion with demons bullshit.
>>41671666That kind of circular, cultlike logic isn't going to get you anywhere. Assertions don't justify themselves without being backed by primordial instinct and history, which your statements are not. In fact, literally every aspect of what you've said ITT can be widdled down to "I FUCKING HATE THE GOVERNMENT RIGHT GUYS?? BUT DONT QUESTION ANYTHING. EVERYTHING IS A SCARY TRAP MEANT TO TRICK YOU". I can just as easily flip this on you and say what the fuck should I believe you for? You provide zero justification or evidence for what you propel, yet expect support. Then, when threatened with logical questioning, you simply claim it is too bad I don't know anything while you refuse to directly respond to what I accuse you of. You're not only a LARPer, or possibly a glowie, but you're lazy and fucking stupid at that. Sorry, champ. I'm not unlearning anything just because one random asshole online claims it is imperative to live in ignorance.
>>41671676>No such thingYou seriously believe that everything about the supernatural is divided into the divine and infernal? How quaint.
>>41671687Question everything. Skepticism is healthy. But there are things most people won't get to see unless you're allowed to. And it doesn't matter what you practice, what you know, or what you think you understand. And that's just how it is my friend. These are things I can't provide evidence of. There are things that are true but cannot be proven. Anyone involved with any spiritual practice/path understands this very basic and simple concept. If you limit yourself to only accepting things that can be readily proven, then you're limiting yourself greatly. I'll say it one last time, believe whatever you want, but don't expect me to argue with you. I know what I know, and that is sufficient for me. If you don't want to believe (ehoch you clearly dont) Then simply don't and carry on with your life.You didn't question anything, you accused me of being a glowie and are currently having a meltdown and if there's one thing I understand, is that its impossible to have a meaningful discussion with someone who is angry. So one last time, believe whatever you want. Don't think I take offense at your accusations, I just don't care to bother because anyone with a brain knows the people in power keep secrets from everyone outside that system to control them. It really is that simple of a concept. I dont need evidence to prove this, as most people could logically deduce this on their own. They may not understand how, but the idea itself is very easy to grasp. Have a good day.
>>41671688I dont believe, I understand. Gray areas are for people pussyfooting around th3 concept of evil.
>>41671715What a very *human* perspective you have, no wonder you've never had otherworldly beings communicate with you, your mind-box is too small for them.
>>41671719I do have otherworldly beings communicate with me, but it's not done through word, thought or even imagery, since i have many nast, evil people monitoring my thoughts, life and even dreams 24/7. I've seen an angel before, it was bright yellow and a powerful bright light emanated from it. It passed by very quick, it didn't want much attention drawn towards itself but ill never forget what I saw.
I understand that I'm extremely despised and many hate me because I speak the truth. But it's important I do because the people in power are doing terrible things and theyre in the process of getting their shit absolutely wrecked. I strongly suggest you all repent. Take care.
>>41671759Get lost, it won't be long before your kind get culled and this planet finally advance into the space age when intelligent aliens contact us.
>>41669960Some academics think they are god
>complains about tools to enslave mankind and power hungry jackasses>proceeds to post christian prosletyzationdesu?
>>41671719Christians do not understand the concept of a "middle". They think everything is clean cut. Ironically they stole that from zoroastrianism, which most christians would call "demonic" today (and calling things demonic is yet another thing they stole from zoroastrianism)Christianity is like a cancer. From the tumor's perspective there is no "middle ground" to be found with its host, all it wants is to spread and take over. There is only "me" and "you", and if you don't let me take over you then you are an evil spooky being a bunch of foreskin-loving jews made up 2000 years ago to worship their foreskin-loving god. They are a hivemind, like the ones from the body snatchers movies
>>41671841You forget muslims, who are equally as rigid as christians, if not more, and not to mention their barbarism.
>>41665742I was around 25. I feel more or less the same way about it as you.
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>>41665742/sci/ is down the hall and to the left
I've been into theology and the occult since I was a child, I used to believe Father Christmas and the Tooth Fairy were angels, because how else could they perform those acts? They must be supernatural.
>>41671710>anon, you prevaricate too much>"HURRR WELL IF YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT YOU WOULD BELIEVE ME"kek. isn't that exactly what the post you replied to had just criticized you for?
>>41671988Well Father Christmas is just Saint Nicholas, anon. So in that sense, your assumption was perfectly sound.
>>41671848Yes, the muslims are worse. Although the sufi are based. Every abrahamic religion is like that, but christianity and islam want to spread, while the jews --who started all this mess-- are very anti-evangelization
>>41671230 Exactly. They've been trying to do it for years with no result. Probably bots, like the /pol/ spammers. Why even bother? I mean, most of us are too deep in the rabbit hole already to go back.
Im just letting you guys know. I'm not here to debate, cause there's nothing to debate. What im saying is true, and you will all eventually see for yourselves.
