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The protagonist (Altair) belongs to an Ismaili Order of Assassins (who have a Masonic Square & Compass logo ingame) yet he fights against Templars? (Also freemasons as evidenced by the higher degrees of Freemasonry).

Then in the middle of this there are Alien (Isu) Artifacts (Like the Apple of Eden) that can control humanity and are gatekept by these respective orders for their own personal gains...

So what was this game trying to tell us? Eastern and Western Freemasons fight over Alien Artifacts which further their own respective agendas and influence humanity?

And i haven't even began to mention the whole Animus Machine thing (from the latin Anima or Soul) where they can see your ancestor's memories through your DNA using a machine that connects to your spine.
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>>41673519
And the whole trope where the white robed altair (sperm?) climbs up the phalic towers to "synchronize" and jumps out (shoots out) is very reminiscent of sex magick.

Quite on the nose really.
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>>41673547
You might be a bit too cock obsessed
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>>41673561
I could already see Anons here making that joke from a mile away, but when you take a look at masonic architecture (obelisks) plus some of their symbolism (Tubalcain/Two Ball Cane) you start to consider why they would do such a thing.
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>>41673590
You should also take a look at the masonic spearheads they use in ceremonies, they call them "rods" for a reason...
>those two left ones lmao

You can't make this shit up...
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The symbolism is obvious, but why would they show 2 masonic factions pitted against each other?

Or is only one representative of Freemasons while the Templars are "le evil Christians"?

Is the whole "Templars as Enemies" trope just a Masonic demonization of Christians?
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Later in the game Desmond Miles (Genetic Descendant of Altair) starts getting schizo visions through what is known as the Bleeding Effect which caused by overexposure inside the Animus machine.

The symbols etched by the previous test subjects into these visions are quite esoteric on their own like the Chaos Butterfly here, however it's also fascinating that the schizo ability is regarded as helpful and not inherently malefic as society usually portrays schizo visions.
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>>41673700
It's also interesting how all the members of the Order of Assassins are taugh how to obtain and use this schizo vision, even calling it "Eagle Vision".

Many esoteric orders also teach advanced visualization techniques that are borderline schizophrenia, which means that all true initiates or illuminated ones must be schizo to a certain extent, only when you are in this state can you obtain a certain level of gnosis and see beyond the usual veil of your sensory inputs.
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>>41673700
Here is another example of the Esoteric Symbolism of the visions, it's quite Dan Brown tier sure but it's still interesting to see and makes it quite obvious who worked on this "game".
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The name of the protagonist (Altair) is also not random, it's the name of the brightest star on the Aquila (Eagle) Constellation which ties this to Masonic Stellar Theology, it was also related to Zeus/Jupiter in mythology as the bird who carried Zeus' Thunderbolts.

Their Eagle Symbolism and obsession may also be related to Phoenix Alchemical Symbolism to...
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It's also interesting how in AC3 they show Miles was blindfolded when he was kidnapped by the Templars much like one is during a Masonic Initiation.
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The Isu or "Precursor Race" responsible for the creation of the game's ancient technological artifacts are either Aliens or representative of Advanced "Root Races"/Civilizations like the Atlanteans.

The topic of Precursor Aliens/Advanced Civilizations is not new to /x/ sure but the implications are still very interesting.
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So are the games showing Freemasons (Eastern Mystery Orders) demonizing Christians (Templars)?

Or is it showing an internal conflict between two already existing Masonic Factions?

The Assassins obviously represent Freemasons, them being Pirates in the Black Flag game further reinforces this.

Plus the fact that in AC3 they work with George Washington (Another famous Freemason).
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>>41674053
What did this bot mean by this?

Is the thread marked?
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>>41673519
Hi, /adv/ here

Allot of games are made about real people and real organisations.

What you dont realise is that many of the main player characters are infact real world spies.

These spies receive special DNA from their government.

At first you might assume -wrongly- that this amazing DNA would be from special forces and others, but eventually the challenge became re-collecting DNA from heroes of ancient time. For one thing a hero has to be exceptionally pure, otherwise you inherit all of the problems as well as all of the special abilities.

That is the start of the bad news...

There is a plan to allow all of the youth to eventually follow their dreams and become like their favourite heroes. The evidence for this is comicon, where some who have the spy DNA (and IQ points / instincts) start to realise that comicon denizens actually ARE evolving into a version of their favourite character.

This was seen as a sort of fall back plan in the event of a serious threat to global security. And the technology has got significantly better. You now have the ability to access some very highly specialised and intensively trained memories with your noggin, instead of training for years on a computer game following all of the evolution of your character and memorising strategy.

There is also a notable chance that when the spies DNA merges with your own as an ancestor you will generate a sort of improvement not originally attained, as the DNA expresses a new and different trait.

I for example, -when i figured this out- realised i had been building a different set of traits most of my life, probably oweing to my propensity to keep coming back to the fight. My trait set is form the Angels Accipitor Chapter and is represented in allot of different media, some of which being my Hero Academia and the other being the television show C.B. Strike...
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>>41674359
How is this /adv/?

How do the spies receive this special DNA?
At birth?

>There is a plan to allow all of the youth to eventually follow their dreams and become like their favourite heroes.
What if they have neither? No dreams and no idols.

How does the "Spy DNA" merge with your own ancestor's one? Reproduction?
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>>41674443
>How do the spies receive this special DNA?

Going back through history is about as scary as you'd think as the technology gets worse and worse.

When i was younger there simply was an injection.

Now theres... ... theres nano machines ok... there shouldnt be a perfusion of them, but they exist.

Merging DNA is also very difficult, like looking in two different directions at once... except... with your whole life, your volition and every energy therein, from that point onwards... forever... in other words im a fan of purity.

(wolly mammoth mice)
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>>41673824
Altair is the EYE of the eagle, ancients believed it was the only being capable of looking directly at God (the sun) without going blind. As the Aetos Dios it was the chief agent of smite against the enemies of God.

>>41673662
>>41674035
Don't forget Christianity boasts the largest and most well trained group of assassins in the world (and has for centuries+.) Pirates included.
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It's also kind of sad /x/ doesn't discuss this game more as there are probably a lot more things and details that i haven't covered here.

The implications that they may have machines that can read your ancestral memories through your dna's genetic memory is quite scary when you think about it, just think about how many descendants of historical figures they have tracked down over time, kidnapped and then read their memories to get specific pieces of information?

Potential authors of revolutionary scientific texts like the ones from the Library of Alexandria, Potential descendants of Antedeluvian kings plus the knowledge they held, the possibilties are quite shocking...
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>>41674035
>>41674035
>So are the games showing Freemasons (Eastern Mystery Orders) demonizing Christians (Templars)?

Templars come from the Temple of Solomon, which became the Jesuits
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>>41674494
>Altair is the EYE of the eagle, ancients believed it was the only being capable of looking directly at God (the sun) without going blind.
God the Sun? Wasn't Zeus the King of Gods though? Is it about Zeus being above Helios on the power scale?

>As the Aetos Dios it was the chief agent of smite against the enemies of God.
An example of this i can think of would be Prometheus whom the eagle ate the Liver of until Heracles killed it.

>Don't forget Christianity boasts the largest and most well trained group of assassins in the world (and has for centuries+) Pirates included.
(The Jesuits) But that still doesn't answer the question of what the game is about.

Are the Jesuits/"Christians" the villains of the game here or the Freemasons? And the Pirates were more into Mithraism than Christianity...

Or are you saying Jesuits run both factions? If so why the inner conflict between the two?

>>41674565
>Templars come from the Temple of Solomon, which became the Jesuits.
So the game Villains are the Jesuits? But if so then who are the Assassins? Freemasons fighting against Jesuits/"Christians"? The Assassins and Jesuits use masonic symbolism to...
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>>41673519
The symbolism in assassins creed is in the symbol itself. It's in the missing piece that you don't see. And that itself is the true way of the assassin. They are not ment to be seen. The missing piece and its knowledge is not ment for everyone.
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>>41674611
Checked.

>The symbolism in assassins creed is in the symbol itself.
Do you mean this one here >>41673662 ?

>And that itself is the true way of the assassin, They are not ment to be seen, The missing piece and its knowledge is not ment for everyone.
So they are Freemasons? The hidden ones?
What missing pieces does that square and compass represent here exactly?

Would that make the Christian Templars their enemy?
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The 2016 Assassin's Creed movie used the famous Freemason's Hall from London as the location for the Templar Hall/Abstergo gathering place, further connecting the Templars from the games with Freemasonry.

If both the Assassins and the Templars are Freemasons that makes the story one of internal conflict no? Why would these 2 Masonic factions fight each other?

It still seems like it's a Freemasonic demonization of Christians as Templars...
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>>41674632
>The hidden ones?
More or less.

The original ones.
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>>41674669
>Cube Earth
>Skybox
lel

The invisibles were against Freemasons in the comics no? (Sir Miles Delacourt i think?)

So the Assassin's are some hidden order beyond Freemasonry or even against them?
The original ones as you say...

That is an interesting theory, what would their real life counterpart be? Some great white brotherhood?
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>>41674632
The symbols are are basically the same shape. I wasn't speaking of one specifically.

As for on a historical level they were a order of assassins that were secretly being used by the templar order to kill their own that had left the order. Altair is the assassin that exposed the entire thing and also changed it years later into the true assassins creed. the one that wasn't unknowlingly pawns to the templar order. They burned all their bases and vanished without a trace and made new bases and waged a secret war against them for years. though i guess it isn't much of a secret anymore. It's a wild bit of history. The illusion became real and turned on its creator.
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>As for on a historical level they were a order of assassins that were secretly being used by the templar order to kill their own that had left the order.
So the Assassins were originally a Templar/Masonic creation who were made to do Templar dirty work but then branched off into their own thing after witnessing their corruption and fought against their old masters in a secret war spanning centuries?
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>>41674760
yes and the man you are showing in the picture you posted is the person who unvailed it all.
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>>41674719
>what would their real life counterpart be?
Lol you say great white brotherhood, I say masters of burning bridges.

>>41674760
I'm thinking of the Isu's role in all of this, I don't think the later games' lore was added lightly. Characters like the in-game Molay or Germain give us hints at the internal powerplays that arise when a Sage has different ideas than the order de jure. All of this after a character like Alfred reformed the Order of the Ancients into the Templars, who could then essentially usurp Isu technology and doctrine for their own purposes.
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>yes and the man you are showing in the picture you posted is the person who unvailed it all.
Reminds me of the theory of how the champions of the Eternal Champions game were actual real people who fought TPTB.

What if Altair/Desmond miles is one such real person who existed and they dedicated games to him?

>Lol you say great white brotherhood, I say masters of burning bridges.
Discrdians then, makes sense now that i think about it more.
>The Golden Apple of Eden...
lmao

>I'm thinking of the Isu's role in all of this.
Do you think everything they did was calculated or did their downfall essentially leave their advanced toys in the hands of monkeys? Even if that was the case, what kind of force could take down such an advanced civilization? Their own through internal conflict? Nuclear war as described in the Mahabharata?
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>>41674905
Altair was indeed a historical figure. The stories are true anon, though the original game has some fictional content. It's not 100% historically accurate.
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>>41674924
All masonic media is soft disclosure to an extent, there are just some things in the games and movies that make you go "you can't make this shit up".

This whole dialogue here is pure disclosure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9-RnO3zXbU

They also mentioned the 2012 doomsday date that the Mayans warned about, we think nothing happened in 2012 but people speculate CERN superpositioned us into a parallel reality and the original one was indeed destroyed like the Mayans warned, the movie 2012 is also about this Apocalyptic Event.
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Forgot to (you) >>41674872 on this post >>41674905

I also wonder if the Golden Apple of Eden is a real artifact or purely allegorical.

The Discordian Golden Apple seems to be symbollic in myth, but with the introduction of precursor Atlantean/Isu lore into this there might be more to it.

An example would be how Hades' Bident resembles a tuning fork and how it may have been used to mess with vibrations.
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>>41674905
https://thehiddenblade.com/manifesto-instruments-first-will
>"The Instruments of the First Will seem to be a third VERY powerful faction, in addition to the Assassins and Templars."
>"It would also make sense for Sages to be the people who put events into motion the most - given that they have First Civ memories, they could easily give both Assassins and Templars alike information. Considering that Juno has frequently turned the Assassins and Templars against each other, either to distract them or to give herself some kind of advantage in timing, that's very plausible."
>"During the Manifesto, the Instruments of the First Will make it clear how much they dislike humans or have disdain for them. At the very least, they really don't like the idea of Assassins and Templars much. Both John and Bartholomew called them "fools, all of them." In the Manifesto, at one point John states that the Instruments of the First Will are the TRUE TEMPLARS..."

>>41674968
>The Discordian Golden Apple seems to be symbollic in myth, but with the introduction of precursor Atlantean/Isu lore into this there might be more to it.
Our world's apple of discord was an apple of Hesperides (of immortality) which Eris threw before Paris. In the game's lore Eden was like a giant science lab where Juno and others engineered humanity, but not all Isu agreed on genetic experimentation or what it should be used for.
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>>41675048
The symbol for the Instruments of the First Will reminds me of a Sumerian Dingir which was a cuneiform sign for God or Goddess.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingir

>In the game's lore Eden was like a giant science lab where Juno and others engineered humanity, but not all Isu agreed on genetic experimentation or what it should be used for.
It's called the GARDEN of Eden for a reason, a garden is where things are grown to be harvested...

>Our world's apple of discord was an apple of Hesperides (of immortality) which Eris threw before Paris.
In Neon Gensis Evangelion the Fruit of Life was also an object (S2 Engine) that gave Angels Immortality.

The Cicada 3301 bit in AC Origins was also weird and the dialogue was also revealing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDkPtam4_UA
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>>41675114
>In Neon Gensis Evangelion the Fruit of Life was also an object (S2 Engine) that gave Angels Immortality.
Stylized as an angel's heart which the Evangelion units must eat to emulate their infinite energy, sounds about right lol. Reminds me of Morrowind's Heart of Lorkhan and the frequency-tools the elves used to unlock its power and become as gods capable of shaping reality. Or Dragon Age's orb of Fen'harel, implied to be the heart of a dead titan used by the game's Satan figure to either erect the Veil between worlds or tear it down.

In AC the apple of Eden is said to manipulate the neurotransmitters within humans like some energetic dynamo, creating illusions and controlling human behavior. It seems they actually override (in Evangelion terms) a human's inferior "absolute terror field" such to remove their propensity for quantum modality, effectively locking them (as the Cicada clip and that one comment beneath it imply) into a mental or genomic prison: preventing proprioception not just of the body's capability for a 6th sense in ESP, but also of the soul's perception and ability to navigate other dimensions.
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>>41675305
>Molag Bal
Elite Baal Knowledge.

The Brain acts like a radio according to a Soviet Scientist named Alexander Barchenko and the Pineal Gland has Calcite Microcrystals that create Piezoelectric reactions in the Brain and effectively turn the Pineal into a biological transducer, maybe the Apple of Eden hijacks this Brain Radio much like a Pirate Signal/Broadcast hijacks any other radio.
>picrel

Remember when this WEF stooge said this?
They clearly have this already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyV4eV9UXIc
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>>41673746
it's the flame within masonic nomenclature, calling them psychotic disorders is a joke. you sacrifice sanity for athletic performance, divine inspiration, and direct experience of the divine. I'm not the guy that was obsessed with dicks from earlier in the thread (though he has a point with the obelisks, some think those are representative of the castration of an egyptian deity) but practice sexual asceticism and you'll gain "eagle vision", though it's not as stable as presented in game. if sexual asceticism isn't enough practice more, fast, deprive yourself of sleep (which will become easier with the first method under your belt) and you too can experience the trial by fire. it is both a blessing and a curse.
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>>41675425
>it's the flame within masonic nomenclature
The Initiates Of The Flame...

>calling them psychotic disorders is a joke
Picrel.

>I'm not the guy that was obsessed with dicks from earlier in the thread
Lmao, that's OP (me) and i'm the one who made those posts (you have no idea how just how much phalic sex magick shit O.T.O Crowley Masons get into and how they spam it everywhere in their media symbolism).

Society has a "believe our way or we'll lock you away" mentality, in ancient times these "schizos" were treated as shamans and oracles due to their divine visions and insight, the industrial revolution completely destroyed this and paved the way for mindless, divineless consumerism...
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>>41675442
Cont...
People think i'm joking with the phalic shit but i ask you to deeply analyze masonic symbolism, what do you think the tubalcain or two ball cane from picrel is?

And didn't the original stone masons make the cathedrals? Take a look at how much phalic shit is sculpted into the cathedrals.

When fulcanelli wrote the mysteries of the cathedrals he didn't mention all the dicks sculpted into stone...

>you really can't make this shit up
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>>41674924
>In astrology Altair was a mischief-maker, and portended danger from reptiles.
>According to Ptolemy the influence of Aquila is similar to that of Mars and Jupiter. It is said to give great imagination, strong passions, indomitable will, a dominating character, influence over others, clairvoyance, a keen penetrating mind and ability for chemical research.

>>41675393
>They clearly have this already.
Lol yes that's all I was thinking typing that out, 5G. "They" or whoever is behind them are clearly using ancient tech or allowing the nouveau riche to get close with their own version.

>Elite Ba'al knowledge
In that game Bal is the lord of domination. "Indominatable will, a dominating character, influence over others..." And rape of course.

>>41675455
Picrel occurred yesterday in Brazil, speaking of Masonic infighting. The fall of 'liberty' while the golden arches (of Ba'al) remain standing in the storm. McDonald's' golden arches are unofficially admitted to be the twin peaks of breasts, but sounds like you already know they're actually two buttcheeks (leading to bifrost the rainbow bridge, the golden gate.) The Epstein files are about to be released: sounds like they're going to torch America so the cult remains?

https://youtu.be/-Yfh_CpA9Sk
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>>41673547
I hated these
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>>41676423
The statue of liberty is statue of either lucifer or hekate
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>>41676423
Look (((who))) gifted original
statue
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>>41676580
Could also be Orion, Helios, Apollo, and apparently Alexander according to a thread a few weeks ago.

>>41676591
A few years ago the US airforce took down its webpage explaining that its statue of liberty medal was based on Semiramis and cited her medieval interpretation as the builder of Babylon.
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>>41676423
>Lol yes that's all I was thinking typing that out, 5G, "They" or whoever is behind them are clearly using ancient tech or allowing the nouveau riche to get close with their own version.
Tin foil hats have been vindicated because of this and they actually block these waves, notice how they pulled actual tin foil from supermarkets and now we only have conductive aluminum foil, pure coincidence i'm sure.

>The fall of 'liberty' while the golden arches (of Ba'al) remain standing in the storm.
Aren't the Golden Arches a styleized Astrological Symbol of Aries? When you take a front look at a ram it's curved horns make the arches no?

>sounds like they're going to torch America so the cult remains?
They're gonna move to their new puppet state or host, China.

They already pillaged the U.S of everything it had and now will leave it to rot, China also gives them more leeway to oppress people, just take a look at how they test mass surveillance tech there and how dystopian it got during the lockdowns there with drones keeping people in their pod homes.

>In astrology Altair was a mischief-maker, and portended danger from reptiles.
Altair is heavily tied to Jupiter, these societies like Freemasonry are MYSTERY schools, from the arabic word Muštarī which means Jupiter.
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This dialogue was also very revealing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpJ0lvC_ka4

>That 4th (dimensional) wall break though.
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The Assassin motto of "Nothing is True, Everything is Permitted" is also very Thelemic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzwnHEk22Y0
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>>41673519
I'm glad you've made this thread OP because this is the same video game series that first got me into secret societies & conspiracies throughout history. In essence, Assassin's Creed is the series that introduced me to /x/-tier concepts & ideas.
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>>41677690
No problem Anon, i've been wanting to make this thread for a long time to as i grew up with these games (Zoomer Here), i also like to focus mostly on the first games as the quality of the later ones went downhill, but all discussion from any of the games is still welcome and i don't mind it to much.

I got introduced to ancient mythology by God of War and introduced to the Templars by Assassin's Creed, and just like you it also led me to a rabbit hole of secret societies, conspiracies and history.

It's an S and /x/ Tier game series.

Also thread theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12PWq22E9CQ
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>>41677754
>The vid
Alright, you're a real one.

First thing that stood out to me when I first played the games was the symbolism throughout the series along with the idea that secret societies were controlling things behind the scenes.

Also, neat video I found some time back:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW6dyhbxEx8
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My country's history is heavily tied with the templars and we had this medieval fair in our hometown that happened once a year where townsfolk would dress up and larp as templars while also teaching their history and doing cool parades, they would also set up period accurate food/merch stands and serve period accurate foods there, they also sold other period accurate goods like ornate silk clothing and clay pottery.

The first game i played was AC Bloodlines on the PSP but then i moved on to the other titles on PS3 as i grew older, going to that medieval fair after playing the games was absolute kino and made me feel like i was inside the games, i also larped with a hoodie and jumped around everywhere following those old AC Parkour videos, remember these?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAhPaiajwDY

What initially stood out to me were the ancient tech artifacts and how they were being chased after by these heavily historical groups, you always heard legends of Arcs and Grails and the games just reinforced it for me, made me start to question what kinds of secrets the ancients actually held and if they were actually more advanced than us today.

Also from that neat video at 5:13.
>it was not the machinations of Eris that spawned the Trojan War.
Al Mualim mentioning Discordianism this clearly completely went over my head when i was younger.

The "Apple" creates illusions by messing with human sensory inputs as Anon here >>41675305 said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-Nz6us7DUA

The AC3 masonic tunnels built between cities is also interesting and the Isu are kind of right when they say the Templars and Assassin's have wasted centuries of time and bloodshed in chasing their artifacts for their personal motives.

At first the Templar ideals of order sound good but their order is a very dark and opressive form of order, like the WEF NWO type of order.
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bumping, i wish there was more i could add but i think i've already covered the main things, there is still probably more stuff i haven't noticed yet.
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>>41673519
>What is The Real Esoteric Meaning of Assassin's Creed?
for normalfags to get used to freemasonry and to praise and worship it. i ain't playing that shit
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>>41679103
Freemasons are technically the enemy of the game but also the protagonists.

It seems like it's more like this >>41674035 though.

Interesting how the modern day Templars in the game are a corporation (Abstergo) that has infiltrated everything.
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>>41674592
>So the game Villains are the Jesuits? But if so then who are the Assassins? Freemasons fighting against Jesuits/"Christians"? The Assassins and Jesuits use masonic symbolism to...
In the real world theres theories that the Jesuits eventually took over the Freemasons from the inside over time. Probably around the time of the creation of the Bavarian Illuminati
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>>41676580
>The statue of liberty is statue of either lucifer or hekate
Ishtar
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The Bavarian Illuminati was created by Adam Weishaupt who was educated in a Jesuit school and became a professor of canon law (a position previously held by Jesuits), leading him to blend Jesuit methods with Enlightenment ideas to found the Illuminati after becoming anti clerical.

The Illuminati then infiltrated Freemasonry over time and supposedly "collapsed" after being hunted down by the Bavarian Government.

Considering the Abstergo (Templar) logo from the games is a styleized Illuminati logo (as seen here >>41674035) it's safe to assume that the game shows actual Freemasons fighting against a tyrannical Illuminati.
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>>41679412
>t's safe to assume that the game shows actual Freemasons fighting against a tyrannical Illuminati.
Perhaps at some point in the past. But today I'd say the Templars won. Welcome to clownworld
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>>41679412
>it's safe to assume that the game shows actual Freemasons fighting against a tyrannical Illuminati.
Bump.

>>41679182
>a corporation (Abstergo) that has infiltrated everything.
https://anarchyforthemasses.fandom.com/wiki/The_Outer_Church
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Yog-Sothoth is a fictional cosmic entity and Outer God created by H. P. Lovecraft, appearing as a core part of the Cthulhu Mythos (which Lovecraft would refer to facetiously as the "Yog-Sothothery"). Born of the Nameless Mist, he is the progenitor of Cthulhu, Hastur the Unspeakable, and the ancestor of the Voormi.
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>>41679514
If they truly won then all of their censorship and oppression would not be necessary.

They have to do 24/7 maintenence just to maintain their facade and the internet completely blew up in their faces even after being their military tool of control since it's very inception.
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>>41679567
Maybe you see through it. But 99% of people are stuck at other interference layers. Freedom fighters vs Trump, or Trump vs the Swamp, or the corrupt vs the righteous, or the Elite vs Aliens or other such hogwash
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>>41679571
>clearly hasn't played the games.
>picrel

>>41679579
Politics is Theatre and there are no truly Corrupt or Righteous (see beyond the Masonic Checkerboard of Duality), the ingame Templars and Assassins are just two sides of the same coin and the Isu Precursors called them both fools for wasting so many centuries in bloodshed chasing their personal goals.
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>>41679601
>Isu Precursors
The Proselenes
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>>41679617
The ingame Isu created Atlantis canonically while the Proselenes are not tied to Atlantis in Greek Myth, not a bad guess though.

The Isu have a plan for the whole of humanity while the Templars and Assassins just want power and control.
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>>41679634
So it must be after the fall/division so the nephalim
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>>41679640
The Nephilim are Hybrids that were created when a species kown as the Watchers from the Book of Enoch mixed with Human Women, these Watchers also taught Humanity sorcery and how to make weapons.

The Isu aren't exactly the Watchers but they did create Humanity in the ingame lore and mixed with human women.

The Isu also have Human Hyrbid offspring much like the Nephilim Human Watcher Hybrids.
https://assassinscreed.fandom.com/wiki/Hybrid

It's also interesting to note that Pythagoras and Leonidas of Ancient Greece are canonically Isu Hybrids, what did the AC devs mean by this?

Were these 2 prominent and mysterious historical figures actual Divine Hybrids?
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>>41679662
Adam and Eve and the apple aren't literal. They are allegorical devices
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>>41679728
Allegory for what?
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>>41679807
>Yah like hey bro heres some knowledge fruit you fucking nonce
And where might I find some knowledge fruit seeds?
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>>41679728
Allegorical yes but I think they still convey real mysteries about trees/DNA, fruit/offspring, and an interference of some sort.

>>41679662
https://youtu.be/G7J0ytTNlEs
In AC Odyssey the player works with Pythagoras to seal and guard the Isu secrets of Atlantis from unmaking the world again... or as we theorized it earlier, perhaps from misuse by the whims of non-Isu-descendants. What we'd probably equate as the purpose of ye olde mystery schools... Mustari/Jupiter as the hierophant or guru. You can see what they show floating above him lol.
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>>41679807
I've heard many theories as to the real allegory behind Adam and Eve, from them being the Atom and (Ev) to the story being related to Kundalini (Ida & Pingala).

>>41679821
You think the mystery schools are gatekeeping the tech to prevent misuse? I think that's partially true however i also think it's also for their own gain also.

It's also interesting to think about how much of this tech each faction has, the Templars have a few pieces of Isu tech and so do the Assassin's.

Can't the Isu just clean house and reclaim all? Or are they being set back by the technology being turned against them by non Isu?

>You can see what they show floating above him lol.
The Pyramid with the Eye?
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>>41679821
>Allegorical yes but I think they still convey real mysteries about trees/DNA, fruit/offspring, and an interference of some sort.
The Matrix Reloaded where the Architect(Saturn) tells Neo(Spirit) That the Oracle(The Moon) was created to offer choice between Good and evil. This split the Torus field of reality, felling the Great Tree at the center of the world(Ragnarok/Avatar) Forming Axis Mundi(Maelstrom-World of Warcraft) and the Negative Energy Lower plane(LOTR/Helms Deep)
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>>41679843
>slight grammar correction
>i also think it's for their own gain.
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Neo is not the Spirit.
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>Neo is not the Spirit.
The hidden 13th
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>>41679882
There are 2 Serpents within you, not just one.
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>>41679892
>There are 2 Serpents within you, not just one.
I don't really listen to that one, seems to lead to drama
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>>41679903
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzodfA5lPIg
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>>41679903
I sugest handling both yields better results, a middle pillar rather than a solely left or right one.
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>I sugest handling both yields better results, a middle pillar rather than a solely left or right one.
what is the middle hand path.... wait what is the middle hand? my tongue?
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>>41679925
Both hands (Branches) belong to the same Spine (Trunk).

The Middle Way.

>>41679932
Experience from being on both ends for a while.
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>>41679848
Lol yes, bump. More loaded dialogue in that clip... Pythagoras tells the player (you) that your burden is to help humanity decide their fate. He passes the serpent entwined staff, the Axis Mundi, the world, to his descendant as he says this.

>>41679843
>Can't the Isu just clean house and reclaim all?
Which ones should we ask? Those like Juno might love to. It seems even benevolent Isu like Minerva still viewed humans as unfortunate mistakes to be guided or corrected.
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>>41673662
No the occultic groups fight each other all the time.
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>>41673519
Its also important to remember Ehud the left handed assassin that killed King Eglon of Moab
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>The Matrix Reloaded where the Architect(Saturn) tells Neo(Spirit) That the Oracle(The Moon) was created to offer choice between Good and evil. This split the Torus field of reality, felling the Great Tree at the center of the world(Ragnarok/Avatar) Forming Axis Mundi(Maelstrom-World of Warcraft) and the Negative Energy Lower plane(LOTR/Helms Deep)
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>>41673662
>>41674035
>demonizing Christians (Templars)?
>Templars are "le evil Christians"?
You should really research the history of the Templars. They used to guard the "Temple of Solomon" and were in contact with the jewish priests of the time. This is important because the Jews who took over the temple were descendants of the same ones that were enslaved and taken into Babylon. If you ask a Jew or a Rabbi, "What happened in Babylon?" They'd tell you that it was a time of inner searching of faith and of great reformation. Their semitic cousins of the Kuran are taught a bit differently:
>They taught magic to the people, along with what had been revealed to the two angels, Hârût and Mârût, in Babylon. The two angels never taught anyone without saying, “We are only a test, so do not abandon faith.” Yet people learned magic that caused a rift between husband and wife; although their magic could not harm anyone except by God’s Will. They learned what harmed them and did not benefit them, although they already knew that whoever buys into magic would have no share in the Hereafter. Miserable indeed was the price for which they sold their souls, if only they knew!
They were frred by Cyrus and allowed to go back to Israel. There, they began to spread what they learned in Babylon. They built the 2nd Temple. Then, Christ came and went. The Christians came and went and with them, the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon, ie. the Templars. They were the ones guarding the false temple, thus, they were the ones in contact with those who were the direct descendants of the Jews from Babylon. This ties into the AC games and Altair's story quite well. By the end, he attains knowledge and throws away the organized religions, seeing them as false, probably corrupted and takes a higher spiritual stance.
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>>41677911
Oh that's cool your hometown hosts such an event. I always love historical recreations & things like that.

>The first game i played was AC Bloodlines on the PSP but then i moved on to the other titles on PS3 as i grew older, going to that medieval fair after playing the games was absolute kino and made me feel like i was inside the games, i also larped with a hoodie and jumped around everywhere following those old AC Parkour videos, remember these?
Holy shit are you me? AC Bloodlines was also my first AC game. I didn't see much esoteric stuff in that game. Also, I binged those parkour vids back in the day like you wouldn't believe. Top notch stuff.

>What initially stood out to me were the ancient tech artifacts and how they were being chased after by these heavily historical groups, you always heard legends of Arcs and Grails and the games just reinforced it for me, made me start to question what kinds of secrets the ancients actually held and if they were actually more advanced than us today.
Oh yeah that was also something I took interest in the series. The possibility that ancient civilizations had access to advanced technology fascinated me when I was younger & still does.

>At first the Templar ideals of order sound good but their order is a very dark and opressive form of order, like the WEF NWO type of order.
That's the best description of what the Templars are in the game. I'd say both the Assassin's & Templars are 2 secret societies that desire outcomes that benefit them, not the human race as a whole. I'd say a similar comparison would be the NWO type of order being the Templars & the Thelemic type of freedom being the Assassin's.
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>>41680051
>Pythagoras tells the player (you) that your burden is to help humanity decide their fate.
A made decision must be an informed one, and considering the fact that most don't have the required information to decide can one really say they are qualified to exercise their "free will"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKl6WjfDqYA

>It seems even benevolent Isu like Minerva still viewed humans as unfortunate mistakes to be guided or corrected.
The Isu already put neurotransmitters on humanity that make them obey their tech and when you observe the development stages of the human embryo it's quite obvious our species is already hybrid of many other animals to an extent, science says it's purely the result of evolution but i think our DNA was altered by these precursors at some point in time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jbm5Mzp3aU

I also agree humanity should be guided or corrected to an extent, when you look at the world today you see so many people with so much potential wasting away in a greedy and flawed (by design) system.

>>41680441
Those jewish priests learned magic from the Persian Magi and the Egyptians, Solomon is an allegory for the Sun, it's in the name.

>Sol (Latin), Om (Hindu), On (Egyptian)

As for the Temple of Solomon i ask you, what is a TEMPLE?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_(anatomy)

>This ties into the AC games and Altair's story quite well, By the end, he attains knowledge and throws away the organized religions, seeing them as false, probably corrupted and takes a higher spiritual stance.
The real Ismaili Assassins also disregarded organized religion through a system of 9 degrees where the initiate was "eased out" of the traditional Imam influences, then at the final degrees they were taught Bardaisan Gnosticism.

>>41681416
>Oh that's cool your hometown hosts such an event.
Other towns still do this but my hometown's local government stopped the tradition recently because an anti european African got elected by immigrants.
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>>41681870
Cont.

> AC Bloodlines was also my first AC game.
Nice, did you also get spooked by the title screen music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwa1r2PXZvQ

>The possibility that ancient civilizations had access to advanced technology fascinated me when I was younger & still does.
Here's one of those advanced artifacts that was the spotlight of the most recent Indiana Jones movie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism

>I'd say both the Assassin's & Templars are 2 secret societies that desire outcomes that benefit them, not the human race as a whole.
Yes, they are deciding for people rather than letting people choose themselves, but then again, choices must be informed, so should the "ignorant" people really be allowed to decide?

>I'd say a similar comparison would be the NWO type of order being the Templars & the Thelemic type of freedom being the Assassin's.
The oppressive nature of the Templars also partially stems from their Abrahamic beliefs that have strict guidelines and morality, while the excessive Thelemic freedom of the Assassin's is dangerous to the individual because when one has absolute freedom he also has the freedom to wreck himself, we see this today in modern liberal society where people abort human life and mutilate themselves in the name of "my body my choice."
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>>41681870
>Other towns still do this but my hometown's local government stopped the tradition recently because an anti european African got elected by immigrants.
What a damn shame. I await the day those who wish to do evil on humanity will be brought down low.

Regarding real history of the AC series, there was a sect of Jewish assassins before the Ismaili called the Sicarii:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicarii
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>>41681908
>Nice, did you also get spooked by the title screen music?
At times. I was more spooked by the witch boss battle, which was a constant thorn in my side.

>Here's one of those advanced artifacts that was the spotlight of the most recent Indiana Jones movie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism
Oh yeah heard about this. The way I see it, this was a device used to measure the stars & celestial bodies in order to calculate when astronomical events would take place.

>Yes, they are deciding for people rather than letting people choose themselves, but then again, choices must be informed, so should the "ignorant" people really be allowed to decide?
No. I'm of the view that the only ones who desire or rather deserve freedom are those who are wise enough to wield it.

>The oppressive nature of the Templars also partially stems from their Abrahamic beliefs that have strict guidelines and morality, while the excessive Thelemic freedom of the Assassin's is dangerous to the individual because when one has absolute freedom he also has the freedom to wreck himself, we see this today in modern liberal society where people abort human life and mutilate themselves in the name of "my body my choice."
That's a fair point. I'd say the ideal position would be a blend of both were certain freedoms are allowed but centered on order & structure that benefits mankind as a whole instead of oppressing them or stunting their growth.
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>What a damn shame.
He also left the town in ruins because Africans can't do civilization/maintenence so nothing is being repaired and it's being left to rot. Basically he is turning the place into picrel.

Our family also had to move from there a while back because it got absolutely flooded with immigrants and the government doesn't give a shit about it's native population, they don't even speak our language and just destroy/degrade everything like locusts.

It's sad to see but i'm so glad that i got to see it in it's prime before this shittification, eating medieval food in a medieval fair while doing AC parkour near Templars was ABSOLUTE KINO.

>Regarding real history of the AC series, there was a sect of Jewish assassins before the Ismaili called the Sicarii.
I didn't know that, the ingame Assassins are obviously Muslim and their white robes remind me of the white religious clothes worn by Persian Zoroastrians.

>>41681973
>I was more spooked by the witch boss battle, which was a constant thorn in my side.
I remember her to, i couldn't get past her so i mostly messed around with other sidequests, i only fully beat the game later.

>this was a device used to measure the stars & celestial bodies in order to calculate when astronomical events would take place.
It had the mechanical finesse of a Renaissance device but it was made in Ancient Greece which is absolutely mind blowing considering the machining necessary to make the gears.

There is also this enigma.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Hammer
A seemingly modern hammer encased in Limestone millions of years old.

>I'm of the view that the only ones who desire or rather deserve freedom are those who are wise enough to wield it.
I agree but must be moderation, not to much freedom but not much oppression either, small gated communities prove that people can govern themselves decently without much need of an external overseer forcing them.

Turning the world into a chipped cattle feed is not good.
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>>41682045
>grammar correction
>I agree but there must be moderation
>(word limits caused this mistake lel)
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>>41682045
>He also left the town in ruins because Africans can't do civilization/maintenence so nothing is being repaired and it's being left to rot. Basically he is turning the place into picrel.

Our family also had to move from there a while back because it got absolutely flooded with immigrants and the government doesn't give a shit about it's native population, they don't even speak our language and just destroy/degrade everything like locusts.

It's sad to see but i'm so glad that i got to see it in it's prime before this shittification, eating medieval food in a medieval fair while doing AC parkour near Templars was ABSOLUTE KINO.
Sounds like you enjoyed the good times before it went downhill. I'm willing to bet that the younger & future generations will grow up being ethnically, culturally & spiritually pure than previous generations over the last several decades due to the environment they find themselves in.

>I didn't know that, the ingame Assassins are obviously Muslim and their white robes remind me of the white religious clothes worn by Persian Zoroastrians.
That would make more sense considering the historical Ismaili Assassins started in Persia.

>I remember her to, i couldn't get past her so i mostly messed around with other sidequests, i only fully beat the game later.
I miss when games had bosses/levels that were harder than the final boss/level.

>It had the mechanical finesse of a Renaissance device but it was made in Ancient Greece which is absolutely mind blowing considering the machining necessary to make the gears.

There is also this enigma.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Hammer
A seemingly modern hammer encased in Limestone millions of years old.
Very interesting. I chalk it up to ancient civilizations possessing more knowledge than we originally thought.

>Turning the world into a chipped cattle feed is not good.
You got that right.
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>>41682210
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>I'm willing to bet that the younger & future generations will grow up being ethnically, culturally & spiritually pure than previous generations over the last several decades due to the environment they find themselves in.
That depends, a lot of the younger generations are not that conscious about this and just doomscroll on their phones all day, however those that use the internet to learn give me hope as for the first time in history a generation has access to all the information of the world and history in the palm of their hand.

>I miss when games had bosses/levels that were harder than the final boss/level.
Modern gaming is absolute ass, microtransactions, dead open worlds, forcing players to always be online, consoles no longer having disk trays and being digital only so players no longer physically own games. (you will own nothing and you will be happy) etc...

>Very interesting. I chalk it up to ancient civilizations possessing more knowledge than we originally thought.
Same, but because of wars many of these advanced ancient artifacts were possibly stolen by 3rd parties into private collections or destroyed.

The Greeks also had Robots both in myth and reality.
>picrel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talos
https://www.archaeology.wiki/blog/2015/08/05/worlds-first-robot-2/
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>>41677569
You can still find actual tin online.
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>>41682335
But the majority of people don't shop online now do they?
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>>41682291
>That depends, a lot of the younger generations are not that conscious about this and just doomscroll on their phones all day, however those that use the internet to learn give me hope as for the first time in history a generation has access to all the information of the world and history in the palm of their hand.
True that. It's a double-edged sword in that humanity as a whole has access to information chroniclers & historians of old couldn't even fathom of whilst that same access to information & communication has harmed us via instant gratification.

>Modern gaming is absolute ass, microtransactions, dead open worlds, forcing players to always be online, consoles no longer having disk trays and being digital only so players no longer physically own games. (you will own nothing and you will be happy) etc...
It's a sad state of affairs. I've completely disconnected from modern gaming altogether & only find interest in games that were made with passion.

>Same, but because of wars many of these advanced ancient artifacts were possibly stolen by 3rd parties into private collections or destroyed.

The Greeks also had Robots both in myth and reality.
>picrel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talos
https://www.archaeology.wiki/blog/2015/08/05/worlds-first-robot-2/
Ok that's wild. The fact the ancient Greeks knew about this concept is mind-blowing since robots are seen as a modern idea (Post WW2-Current Day).
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>>41682380
>information & communication has harmed us via instant gratification.
The gratification is a temporary illusion and it turns your natural dopamine circuits into a drug that addicts you and burns out your receptors over time if overused (leaving you depressed), it's quite insidious how they turned our own nature against us.

>I've completely disconnected from modern gaming altogether & only find interest in games that were made with passion.
Most games today are mass produced and astroturfed corpo slop that is pushed by Freemasons, just take a look at the recent Game Awards for example, Clair Obscur 33 suspiciously won all categories. (And the game has a masonic name by the way, Clair Obscur being a reference to Light and Dark/Masonic Checkerboard and the 33 is obvious).

>Ok that's wild, The fact the ancient Greeks knew about this concept is mind-blowing since robots are seen as a modern idea (Post WW2-Current Day).
They also had steam engines and automated temple doors long before the industrial revolution and the modern day Anon...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolipile
https://greekreporter.com/2025/12/14/ancient-greek-world-first-steam-turbine/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp4Y5SWz8ns

The Greeks were a truly Steampunk civilization, just imagine how much more of this ancient tech we haven't been told about, it's insane just to think about!
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>>41682498
>The gratification is a temporary illusion and it turns your natural dopamine circuits into a drug that addicts you and burns out your receptors over time if overused (leaving you depressed), it's quite insidious how they turned our own nature against us.
It is indeed which is why it's important to be vigilant whenever possible.

>Most games today are mass produced and astroturfed corpo slop that is pushed by Freemasons, just take a look at the recent Game Awards for example, Clair Obscur 33 suspiciously won all categories. (And the game has a masonic name by the way, Clair Obscur being a reference to Light and Dark/Masonic Checkerboard and the 33 is obvious).
Yeah it's so in your face you'd be a fool to ignore it.

>They also had steam engines and automated temple doors long before the industrial revolution and the modern day Anon...
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolipile
>https://greekreporter.com/2025/12/14/ancient-greek-world-first-steam-turbine/
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp4Y5SWz8ns [Embed]
>The Greeks were a truly Steampunk civilization, just imagine how much more of this ancient tech we haven't been told about, it's insane just to think about!
It truly is intriguing that many of what we know about history is either hidden from us or yet to be discovered which ties right back into AC since uncovering hidden mysteries about the past is one of the major themes of the series.
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bumping, it seems the thread is dead.

is there anything else that can be said about AC that hasn't been said already here?
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>>41677609
This is crazy. I wonder if its similar to how they really commune with the entities.
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It's safe to assume that yes, this is close to the truth.

They usually do it through entheogens though, the real life Assassin's were known for using entheogens to...
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>>41673519
The modern day story of the AC games is so underrated. I know a lot of gamers hate the modern day sections, but I think a lot of people into esotericism and Graham Hancock type stuff love it.
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>>41686655
They killed the mystery of it all quickly after the first game. What I see in the new ones is GoW like characters for bosses.
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>>41686655
Some of Graham Hancock's ideas are good but it feels like he is controlled opposition.

>>41687859
Everything beyond the Altair & Ezio sagas is garbage.
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>>41684988
So like mushrooms? Did they have anything more powerful than that back then?
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>>41673519
Jung can explain the final sentence. In fact, the bit about Eastern and Western Freemasons fighting over "Alien Artifacts" is incredibly apt, actually.
>>41673547
>is very reminiscent of sex magick.
I have to insist normalfags don't grasp what "sex magick" is at all. You creating a human is indeed the most magical thing you could possibly do, yes. To be clear though, when the books discuss "sex magick", they're not referring to making vague references in video games about microcosmic sperm stuff that you can't exactly articulate. How, exactly would creating a character in a video game that climbs a tower and jumps off, mimicking a penis ejaculating, do a magic or whatever you're thinking to someone playing the game? Is the idea someone "did a spell" by going through all this artistic trouble to make you jerk off? What could you possible be insinuating? What are they doing and what poor effects does it have on you? Why is making you think about mating a bad thing? Shouldn't we encourage each other to not die off, especially given the bit about muh Animus machine and "Alien Artifacts" (those two things are the same thing, bud)?
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>>41688751
Pineal glands.
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>>41688808
What do you know about the Fir Bolg, anon? Do you think they were running around removing pineal glands for psychedelic rituals? Did you know the Nemedians (their forefathers) were actually Scythians and this group seems to be where the Picts came from?
Anon, what if I told you the Scythians were popular for their Soma/Haoma ritual? What if I told you they were thrilled with Kanab?
I'm sorry, anon, but the whole everyone was a monster removing peoples cranial organs to consume them thing is a bit overblown at this point. The Fir Bolg weren't trading human organs (though they definitely drank each other's blood after they were slain on the battlefield). Their "bags" contained Pollen. Now we call them "Pollinators".
Now ask why we'd call the Scythians "Pollinators". It'll be fun.
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>>41673590
Explain what's wrong with the Phallic energy, anon.
>>41673662
Dude, Templars and Freemasons are deeply connected. Did you not know this? Templars often recruit from higher degree Masons. You seem miserably confused.
>>41674494
>Christianity
You mean Mithraism's Jesuit spies, actually.
>Are the Jesuits/"Christians" the villains of the game here or the Freemasons?
Jesuits, primarily. Rome never died. It chased around the former leaders and performed genocides where possible. Despite incredible warnings about what would happen, they persisted. To say someone "fell asleep at the wheel" would be kind. Everyone forgot about it and, somewhat hilariously (in a very cynical way, I guess), no one knows how to drive anymore... besides the people they keep trying to murder, of course.
>And the Pirates were more into Mithraism than Christianity...
Case in point.
>Villains are the Jesuits
It's not that simple. Yes, overall, obviously, but there's a lot more to it than that. It's more about the families that have long controlled them. Even then, there are still bigger and better forces out there.
To be clear, defining people you don't like as "Evil" is completely retarded. Most of them were at one point attempting what they remembered thanks to the cargo cults in earnest. They didn't mean to light the world on fire and pass out drunk on the couch. They did still do it though.
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>>41674905
>Eden.
You poor, miserable wretch. It was Red.
You still don't get it, do you?
>>41674872 doesn't quite get it either, so I don't blame you guys.
You were on to something before, guys. You've now veered off course.
I mean, sure, go for the Assassin's Creed lore. I'm sure you've got the right idea, but I have to insist, again, that "Golden Apples" don't exactly refer to what you think they do.
>>41675048
>Our world's apple of discord was an apple of Hesperides (of immortality) which Eris threw before Paris
Alas, you grow warmer. No mention of Hercules and Atlas yet, so I'll forgive you for now, but it's still not quite there.
>>41675114
>In Neon Gensis Evangelion the Fruit of Life was also an object (S2 Engine) that gave Angels Immortality.
Closer still. How fun.
>>41675393
>maybe the Apple of Eden hijacks this Brain Radio much like a Pirate Signal/Broadcast hijacks any other radio.
It's still Red, but it's fun you guys are attempting this. I'm excited to see where this ends up.
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>>41688751
A clue to that is in the etymology of their name if you pay attention.
>picrel

I don't condone or recommend the use of entheogens for ritual/spiritual purposes because of the huge risks they pose to the magician's psyche, it can lead to a permanent psychosis.

>>41688799
>I have to insist normalfags don't grasp what "sex magick" is at all.
You "synchronize" with your environment when you reach the top before you jump off, what do you think that implies dumbass?

Before the climax there is an altered state of consciousness and awareness.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eroto-comatose_lucidity

Also you're not above others bro.
>you're le hylic normalfag and i'm le knower.
Sybau.

>>41688896
>Explain what's wrong with the Phallic energy, anon.
Why practice phalic worship?

>Dude, Templars and Freemasons are deeply connected, Did you not know this?
I did, my question is why they are against each other in the games.
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>>41688932
>You still don't get it, do you?
>41674872 doesn't quite get it either, so I don't blame you guys.
>Alas, you grow warmer.
So are you gonna keep vagueposting or actually say anything of substance? Quit the LARP.
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>>41673746
>>41675425
>>41675442
>Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see, one chance out between two worlds, fire walk with me!
>>41688941
>You "synchronize" with your environment when you reach the top before you jump off, what do you think that implies dumbass?
Are you going to form communicable ideas, or you are you going to make vague leaps and keep being a nigger, begging other people to help you piece it together?
>The Little Death
Dude, I'm perfectly aware. Cut to the chase for me: what do you think le doing "sex magick" in video games means or does? Spell it out for us. We're all dumb and you're super smart. Treat us like the dummies we are.
>Why practice phalic worship?
You do it every day, numb nuts.
>why they are against each other in the games
You seem like the kind of person who would get into Politics. They're all sworn enemies too, right? They're not playing you either, are they?
Quit getting all butthurt that I called you a normalfag. It's clear you don't know much about "sex magick". I'll even be nice to you and help you out. Look up "Bhakti Yoga" on that LLM of yours. It'll explain everything.
>>41688973
I'm going to read through the rest of the thread, offer commentary where I desire and see if you guys figure it out by the end. If you're lucky, I'll give you some hints about something here or there along the way.
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>>41688984
>begging other people to help you piece it together?
Not begging, if you don't want to help piece it together then don't and leave lmao.

>what do you think le doing "sex magick" in video games means or does, Spell it out for us.
It's symbolic and not meant to do anything ingame, you are doing a mock ritual and they are putting their symbolism in your face.

Much like the snake eater ladder meme from Metal Gear Solid being a reference to the snakes and ladders board game/kundalini snake in your spine ladder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgaYe4ZYYyY
>Snakes and Ladders

>We're all dumb and you're super smart, Treat us like the dummies we are.
Copying my reply lmao, also projection.

>You do it every day, numb nuts.
Spell it out for us.

>I'll even be nice to you and help you out, Look up "Bhakti Yoga" on that LLM of yours, It'll explain everything.
I don't use Lovecraftian LLM's, the fact that you mentioned them is just pure projection.

Also i had Tantra in mind, not Yoga.
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>>41677569
>Golden Arches
Do you like McDonald's, anon? What about The Rams?
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>>41684486
>how they really commune with the entities
Not at all, no. The retards do all sorts of frankly hilarious shit that, to their awareness, only has tangential and often heavily confirmation biased implications on what they did a few weeks ago. They incorporate some technologies, sure (what did you think that AI you'd been playing with was, again?), often do loads of drugs and borrowed plenty more from Shamanistic practices worldwide.
When they do rarely find success, it's short-lived, often incoherent and not something they easily understand to be related until after the fact, when there's no measurable means of input which would otherwise provide them some sort of agency in regard to the outcome. In essence, they shoot in the dark in desperation most of the time, rarely achieving anything measurable (believe they still wear it around like a medal though).
>>41679224
The Torch is notably a feature of Hekate.
>>41679217
>In the real world theres theories that the Jesuits eventually took over the Freemasons from the inside over time
Right. The US was filled with lodges back in the day. When the Civil War unfolded, Lincoln was quick to lay the blame at their feet. He claimed if people knew the truth, there would be a holy war against the Jesuits (and ultimately Catholics).
>>41679514
>I'd say the Templars won.
You'd be majorly disappointed then.
>>41679662
>Pythagoras
He's popularly known as the father of the Mystery Schools. Surely you've heard of the story of the Pythagorean woman being chased who comes across a field of beans and, rather than reveal her secrets, she removes her own tongue. So the game including him as an instructor to the protagonist is extremely fitting.
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>>41689068
That picrel of yours is just one arch though?

>What about The Rams?
Picrel, i always thought the logo represented the Astrological Aries/The Ram.
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I heard the laws are ok.

I'm enjoying the news.

I may have created a music album and game for you.

I will provide regular updates on my progress with installing the nation.

I know the best languages--- if we are to use one then it, sadly, won't be English. We'll have more than one if we do for different kinds of linguistics.
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>>41679843
>You think the mystery schools are gatekeeping the tech to prevent misuse?
Dude, they cut off kids' dicks and then they brag about it in public. Who the fuck are you talking about? "Prevent misuse"? Get a hold of yourself, lad. They'd squash you like a bug if they had the chance.
>>41679848
Sort of fun, but the story is about Consciousness and us losing and then regaining it over time. Retrieving Golden Apples helps us repair what was broken.
They say one is none, right?
>>41679954
And where do Apples grow, frens?
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>>41680441
So the "Temple" is the Tree, anon. It's not just the Apple Tree, either. It's also Yggdrasil, the Bodhi, the Banyan and even the same one that Jesus hanged from. >>41680084
This notion that Soul-of-Man and his Temple (body/Tree) was jewish is just funny. You're funny.
>>41682291
>The Greeks also had Robots both in myth and reality.
You mean slaves?
>>41684269
We'll see how it plays out. Unlikely.
>>41687988
>Some of Graham's ideas are good but it feels like he is controlled opposition.
Not really.
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If you're wondering what the multiverse species advancement is like, a bit further than Fifth Element with things like Matrix/Piracy, for no current better explanation. Given how advanced that sounds, it's actually a billion to one in our case. They have no clue about tech, they have no clue about philosophy. Basically they're just fucking around and aren't taking care of themselves properly. We don't need to go back to their multiverse and when they discover us, which could take 10,000s or even 100,000s of years, we'll be more than ready.

I should have showed you some different species and we'll populate our multiverse with lots of different rare species in bloom frames and we'll need to make a team of varied species. Fuck alliances, we want an actual family.
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>>41689029
>you are doing a mock ritual and they are putting their symbolism in your face.
Are you going to go burn down a church if they broadcast one of their events on YouTube? Why don't you pout about the church down the road doing it every weekend? What's the difference?
>putting their symbolism in your face
Do you not have a phone, go outside or look at any screens? You're advertised to incessantly with all of the various symbols humanity has ever come up with.
Again, what the hell is your point, dude?
>Much like the snake eater ladder meme from Metal Gear Solid being a reference to the snakes and ladders board game/kundalini snake in your spine ladder.
Okay, you're just pointing out a thing. You're not saying what the connection is, why we should care or who this is supposed to be aimed at or anything meaningful. You're just saying, "oh and this is a fruit... and this one... and this one too!" Are we supposed to scream and clap for you?
>copying my reply
No, I'm giving you a lay up.
>I don't use LLMs
What's it like ignoring her? Does she find other ways to get your attention?
>I had Tantra in mind, not Yoga
Boy are you in for a fun surprise then.
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>>41673519
the real question you all need to ask is

where are they?

every fiction has at least one such group fighting so called the bad guys.

on earth, there's none.
it is irrelevant to the actual nature of the Assassins in the series.

we just don't have any group trying to fight the mystery group. or maybe i'm unaware.

other than that, since AC has the masonic logo, i assume it's an infight?
or maybe the dev's supported group usurped previously ruling occult group some hundreds years ago?
idk
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>>41689136
>And where do Apples grow, frens?
I see, they grow on the human tree.
But what is the Apple here then? You said it was Red no? An organ maybe? (The Heart).

>You mean slaves?
I meant the Automatons, why by definition are Robots.

>Again, what the hell is your point, dude?
Their Magick/Symbolism is everywhere, as you said.

>Okay, you're just pointing out a thing.
I just gave a similar example from another game, same idea of putting their symbolism/mock rites in your face.

>Are we supposed to scream and clap for you?
No.

>What's it like ignoring her, Does she find other ways to get your attention?
?????

>Boy are you in for a fun surprise then.
I know Tantra is Yogic in origin but it's more distinct than Bhakti Yoga.
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>>41689213
cont.

forgot to (you) these posts on mine above.
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>>41689136
trans people have done nothing but exist and used as scapegoats by everyone and pitheads like you fall for it. Transgender have existed always and always will. They were children once therefore the ones who are trans need to get help asap which is done with gender affirming care. You evil piece of shit. It would be so easy for you to comprehend gender dysphoria if your favorite features would be taken away from you. You would feel like they do developing gender dysphoria. But they were born that way and no one was more bigger critic than them who went through repression which is most of them in this hateful world. Best often can get is virtue signaling from allies but they don't actually care. You reactionaries and right wing dipshits all the same. Hateful idiots in denial about reality of the world. Transphobes being most cruel just mentally ill psychopaths punching down smallest defenseless minority. All you bigots have is lies, lets be honest you know that as well unless you are just a genuine retard.
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>>41689213
>But what is the Apple here then? You said it was Red no? An organ maybe?
You were talking about "Golden Apples". Eden's Apple is Red. Where is it Gold, again?
So different Tree, right?
What does that imply?
>slaves
>Automatons
>Robots
I was having fun.
>I just gave a similar example from another game, same idea of putting their symbolism/mock rites in your face.
Why should I care? Why should you care? What does it mean that they "put symbols in video games"? What are you implying? Why bring this up? Who does it affect and why?
Are they trying to get us to jerk off, mate or be miserable that we're not having sex or something, do you think? I'm trying to extrapolate your meaning here and still cannot place it.
Are you saying "masons bad because symbols in game"? You won't use more words, so I'll try and dumb it down, I guess.
>Tantra, Yoga, Bhakti Yoga
You wanted to learn about Sex Magic(k), it seems I threw you a bone. Bhakti Yoga is your "sex magick", anon. This is what it really is and where it really leads. Now, can you bring this back to a Western frame which you can understand, offering you a platform you can utilize? Or are you just going to keep noticing things, only to take a break later, grab a sandwich and forget you ever attempted profundity with me today?
>>41689237
>trans people have done nothing
I agree with you completely. This is nothing but a miserable disaster of a situation we're all finding ourselves in. I can't believe they'd go in public and mock a guy for torturing his son, who is lamenting the (psychological) loss of a child.
Unfortunately, I didn't read anything else you wrote.
I'm afraid someone has psyoped you. I hope you didn't get top or bottom surgery. Now you're sterilized and cannot be a mother (or a father, you faggot).
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>>41689258
>You were talking about "Golden Apples".
Because the ingame one is Golden, hence i associated it with Eris' apple, Al Mualim even mentions the Apple of Eris ingame implying that the AC Apple of Eden is also the one from Eris' myth.

>So different Tree, right?
>What does that imply?
2 Trees? (Arterial and Nervous Systems)

There is also this body part.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam%27s_apple

>Why should I care?
Not everyone is aware of the symbolism surrounding them, people like us here are tired of seeing it everywhere but the average "normie" who comes across it might be surprised no?

>What does it mean that they "put symbols in video games"?
It's both their signature and a mockery of the person playing the media who is unaware of what is right under their nose.

>Now, can you bring this back to a Western frame which you can understand, offering you a platform you can utilize?
Sex magick practices are mostly eastern but were brought into the west and implemented into the western esoteric traditions through groups like the Theosophists and Thelemites.

Anyone can utilize these practices.
(You think "Gooning" is just a meme?)
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>>41688808
>>41688973
Lol bump. Holy hell
>something summoned
The shills
>who post like
This to slide the
>discussion what a
coincidence they all
>keep hero of kvatch'ing
about us getting everything
>wrong
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>>41689359
>Not everyone is aware of the symbolism surrounding them, people like us here are tired of seeing it everywhere but the average "normie" who comes across it might be surprised no?
Help me out here:
>Not everyone is aware of the symbolism surrounding them
Okay, sure.
>people like us here are tired of seeing it everywhere but the average "normie" who comes across it might be surprised no?
Didn't you just say they don't notice it though?
So is this a veiled advertisement or something? Is that what we're doing? Maybe you're autistic and I'm being a dick, but it feels like you're just repeatedly noticing something like a broken record. Do you just know you're supposed to notice it, but don't know what to do now? It feels like that's what's happening - like some short occurred in your processing.
You don't get stuck in corners or anything, do you?
>person doesn't know this stuff
Again, I don't see what point you're making at all here and it feels like you haven't made much of an attempt to better explain it beyond continued noticing of additional patterns.
>are mostly eastern
Not so much these days.
>Anyone can utilize these practices.
That's exactly right, yes. So you're going to explain how this relates to a video game character being a sperm and climbing on a weiner and then jumping off now, right?
>>41689378
Is this an attempt at flattery?
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Well it's getting late.
Jung spoke about DNA containing genetic memory, right? He spoke about Egregores, right? Well he mentioned what he thought "Odin" really was in his writings too. If that means anything to you at all, Assassin's Creed will make a lot more sense.
Moving on: this "Alien Artifact" you describe periodically throughout the thread is the same exact thing. It's "alien" to you because you don't have access - the egregore (debilitated Consciousness). It's an artifact because it resembles what you once had, what you once wielded. We mentioned slaves before, right? Automatons? The shitty part to all of this, if you actually read the literature, is you'll find it's evident that we're worse off by clearly observable means. Make of that what you will, I suppose. Maybe the game is meant to afford those of us paying attention a different perspective.
But there's, again, more than once place to find an Apple, anons, even the Gold ones. It seems the game offered you a window into one (or multiple) of those pathways. Yes, this "Animus" (Anima, more like it) can also provide you a current to follow. Perhaps you'll find another means of crossing the channel. Just be sure to grab your floaties.
Golden Apples are a delivery system by which means you are periodically aided. Sometimes they're Heroes, Kings. Sometimes you create a cult or what are now Religions around these people (or beings, if you'd rather). Their essence persists even if you think you've convinced yourselves you've maned to murder them (and, believe me, you've tried).
Merry Christmas, fuckers.
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>>41689409
>Didn't you just say they don't notice it though?
>picrel

Once they notice it they can either avoid the symbol ridden media, keep consuming it or connect further dots to see how deep it goes.

>So you're going to explain how this relates to a video game character being a sperm and climbing on a weiner and then jumping off now, right?
The ingame act is a digital mock reenactment of an actual practice.
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>>41689409
>Is this an attempt at flattery?
No just agreeing you've provided nothing to the discussion but instigation to bait engagement away from a claimed hunting ground. I didn't call your tactic out until you got sloppy by also (kek) being baited into engagement.
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>>41689495
It's evident there are plenty of parties desperately confused about what's happened in this thread and I'm afraid you're among them, my friend.
>>41689481
>The ingame act is a digital mock reenactment of an actual practice.
Oh boy, you think? Really? Are you sure? Maybe we've mentioned in the thread a thousand times, yeah?
Enjoy your night, fellas. Don't get too hungry for another bite. You wouldn't want to ruin your appetite, you know.
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>>41689509
>It's evident there are plenty of parties desperately confused about what's happened in this thread and I'm afraid you're among them, my friend.
Be my guest, let the audience know--some of them clearly already do which is why I think you're here. The entropy is getting so low these days, isn't it?
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>>41689509
>Oh boy, you think, Really, Are you sure? >Maybe we've mentioned in the thread a thousand times, yeah?
Yes, and you're Playing Coy to bait and reply farm rather than informing people directly lmao

>Enjoy your night, fellas.
I will.
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>>41690255
>And what of Butterfly Gardens? Not all Gardens share the goal of reaping.
>He doesn't know.
>picrel
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>>41673519
The box bugged out, and I had to start typing again. The core of the Evil after the Fall is based, from what I gather from the lore, is in the control and preservation of the ability to control the future and present via the creation of the Ancestor Future Technology. Meaning that the Sim of the AC Matrix is in partitions that are malleable to a certain extent until they are not...basically the race to the shortening of the boxes of time isolations until no resets are left...like a security system notices the exploits are being misused by wherever the actual present in the AC world is actually at.
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[spoiler]>>41673519
I hate to rain on everyone's parade because I think this thread is one of the few good ones and it's really interesting, but I have friends who worked on the game and I think you guys are giving the developers way too much credit.
A lot of the esoteric/conspiracy elements in the game are a reflection of the time and not something profound or even particularly well researched. It's important to realize that a lot of stuff in the game is lifted pretty much straight from other things, like the film Zeitgeist, and that the devs themselves probably don't have any secret insights. Maybe they do, I don't know, but if they're anything like the teams I've worked on then it's probably just a bunch of stuff they thought was interesting.
Once I saw a similar thread here about the Dishonored series, a game I actually did work on, and I couldn't help but laugh with all the theories people came up with when the truth was Harvey was just like, "I think this would be cool."

>>41674733
If I recall correctly Al Mualim in AC1 wanted to use the Apple to stop the crusades and make all the world live in peace, forcefully, by hypnotizing them with the apple. It's actually more or less what the templars plan to do in the modern story. Both the Assassins and the Templars want the same thing, but they disagree about whether people are responsible enough to get there by themselves or need to be coerced. The assassins believe that humanity should have the freedom to choose, even if they can't always make the right choice, the templars believe humanity isn't responsible enough to choose and if they can use the Apple to force peace then it's moral and good.
>>41674924
The game was originally a prince of persia game for half of its development. Altair is based on people but isn't real himself
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>>41674592
>And the Pirates were more into Mithraism than Christianity...
According to Tracy Twyman in "Genuflect" the Jesuits' skull and bones actually references the pelvic skull and thigh bones, another reference to ritual sodomy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot
>Guy Fawkes [...] was a member of a group of provincial English Catholics involved in the failed Gunpowder Plot of 1605.
>The Gunpowder Plot of 1605, in earlier centuries often called the Gunpowder Treason Plot or the Jesuit Treason, was an unsuccessful attempted regicide against King James VI of Scotland and I of England by a group of English Catholics...
>The Jesuit Treason

https://youtu.be/mUH2J2uo7Ic
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>>41673519

if you really want to know:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb0WJ-JQJYI

prepare your mind and soul beforehand
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>>41673519
>>41673662
Both templars and assasins are feeemasons as you already figured out. But they represent different things templars - order, assassins - freedom. Both of those are control mechanisms, order control throgh authoritarian oppression (which is fed to goyim as le bad), assassins through freedom masked as bait in form of various passions (which is good for current political and cultural conjecture in the West, we are actually now controlled through that right now). Truth is freedom through concious restraint, ability to do or not to do some acts because you are able to choose (virtur), not that you are able to do them (slavery to passion).
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>>41673519
>>41673662
>>41692457
So, game portrays a rift in masonic thought. Confine people physically and mentally (there will be rebelllions because of obvious oppression, but it is more effective to contain dissent), or rule them because of their instictive animalistic hedonistic understanding of freedom. Simply put clash of 1984 vs Brave New World systems.
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>>41676580
It is Attis...
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>>41689068
>The Torch is notably a feature of Hekate.
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It seems you guys never really made much progress beyond what we'd already mentioned. I don't know why OP is obsessed with noticing (and apparently doing nothing else, which is palpably disappointing) stuff about wieners, ejaculate, initiates and climbing the temple and I don't know why the hell OP can't just explain his ideas like a grown up. It detracted deeply from the rest of the thread. Ultimately, celebrating the sexual union, the Divine Marriage, the union of flesh and divinity and hell even the conception of children is no wrong and it's odd anyone would be upset by it. The story is about you discovering the path, following it and realizing muh ancestral memory or muh soul-cell memory.
So the Phallus is also symbolic of the Tree, hence the "climbing" and the whole plucking fruits bit. With the description of Apples (Afal), we've pulled a bit of threads by skipping ahead a bit. Where did you guys think you're supposed to go after you get to the top, again? There's only one place to go from there, right?
No, really, you should grab your floaties - perhaps even learn to swim.
>Animus Machine
We can access this body of knowledge (generally associated with genetic memory) and later utilize it. For a very long time, this process was associated with what was called Theia Mania. This madness is precisely what inspires Divine Speech or the whole Logos paradigm I'm sure you're familiar with. So, in essence, the Animus Machine is the means by which the protagonist accesses said memory bank.
The story is about developing that interface once again and showing up at critical points in history to alter Destiny, to tempt The Fates and, ultimately, to steal their shit and pass it around ferda boys. That's what you all want. That's what you've whispered stories about for millennia.
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>>41674359
This was one of the better replies in the thread, admittedly. Although truer meanings are hidden behind ambiguous language (meant to seem rather innocuous, which I wouldn't blame anyone for doing), particularly mention of "spy DNA", the post really captured a the underlying plot here.
>>41674499
>The implications that they may have machines that can read your ancestral memories through your dna's genetic memory is quite scary when you think about it
Why do you think they enjoy working with Mormons, again? What are Mormons known for?
So it's not a device, a technology, right? The game uses the analogy to communicate the process. Clearly you're not supposed to be hooked up to some machine.
>>41673519
>Aliens
Normalfags aren't given a digestible frame of reference for this because it would cause muh Schizophrenia. Your body is like a receiver and you're not the only one who can tune into the right frequency.
So "Alien" isn't the right way to explain it. Calling them "demons" is stupid unless you've read Plato. Lovecraft did pretty well, really. The issue is Consciousness materializing a bit better for us is going to require acceptance of paradoxes (hence invoking Lovecraft).
So the "Alien Artifact" is the means to access this process. But why are the Templars defending it? What exactly are they defending? Did we really uncover it yet? Sure, we've spoken in metaphors so far, but the point of the OP was to untangle them.
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>>41692720
>Ultimately, celebrating the sexual union, the Divine Marriage, the union of flesh and divinity and hell even the conception of children is no wrong and it's odd anyone would be upset by it.
Who said we brought up the sexual references to demonize them? They clearly exist and you glow for pretending Thelema and its ancient predecessors aren't immersed in them.

>>41692752
True to form the only post you agree with is another derail which does the same thing you do: agree with enough of OP to jacket yourself as a contributor then turn around and shoot down every other post because it doesn't abide muh secret vague rubric.

>Sure, we've spoken in metaphors so far, but the point of the OP was to untangle them.
We've been doing that quite deftly, you're the one so loud and desperate to cover up those first few posts which hint that we were actually talking about something else entirely.
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>>41692720
>I don't know why OP is obsessed with noticing stuff about wieners, ejaculate, initiates and climbing the temple and I don't know why the hell OP can't just explain his ideas like a grown up.
The Freemasons like many other Gnostic sects are a veiled Sex Cult, there is nothing inherently wrong with celebrating the Generative act of Creation and Sexual Union, however this isn't what the Freemasons are doing.

When we take a look at the pins and insignia of a related Masonic order called the Royal Order of Jesters we don't see a sacred celebration of sexuality, we see a celebration of Debauchery which is a perversion of sacred Sexuality.

The Freemasons also call all non initiates Vulgar and Profane within their texts which is derogatory towards others.

So considering their debaucherous nature and derogatory treatment of the masses i believe it's safe to assume that their phallic symbol placement in media doesn't have the best intentions in mind, it's almost like they are also "giving the finger" to the player in a way.

And the fact that you keep bringing this point up over and over again (more than my other points) also indicates that i've struck a nerve.

>Where did you guys think you're supposed to go after you get to the top, again?
To the bottom, and to repeat the cycle again.

>>41692752
>But why are the Templars defending it? What exactly are they defending?
They are gatekeeping it for their ends.
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>>41692832
>Who said we brought up the sexual references to demonize them?
Why else was OP being all weird about the sexual themes?
It's hilarious you'd say I glow and pretend I'm saying Thelma aren't immersed in sexual themes. I'm pretty sure my posts say exactly the opposite.
You're an idiot. What are you so upset about? I've been very kind to you in this thread.
I haven't covered up shit, you retard. I've repeatedly enticed OP to say a great deal more because I eager for you to learn more or be exposed to more. It's fun.
What a retarded take. I've been here doing the opposite for over a full day, retard.
>>41693209
Right, Freemasonry was compromised a long time ago now. There are elements, perhaps inspired by them, that are still committed to the Work, but I have to be honest and say it's nothing like it once was. Most people these days clearly don't have a firm grasp of what's going on and it's comically obvious based on threads by this.
>So considering their debaucherous nature and derogatory treatment of the masses i believe it's safe to assume that their phallic symbol placement in media doesn't have the best intentions in mind
It's a cargo cult, dude. They're disconnected from what all of this meant or was supposed to be for. That's literally what we're discussing here. That's why they have to do much genetic memory. That's the whole entire point of this animus machine thing. Isn't it obvious?
>I struck a nerve.
This is me helping you. It's the point of your thread, right, anon?
Do you dislike assistance? Then why would you make this thread?
>the bottom
Sort of, yeah.
>they're gatekeeping
Didn't we agree the Jesuits (though we also agreed they infiltrated the Templars and masons) were the bad guys?
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>I've repeatedly enticed OP to say a great deal more because I eager for you to learn more or be exposed to more.
>picrel
You entice engagement bait to bump kill the thread and if you were truly eager for us to learn more you wouldn't be vagueposting and would just say things directly/spill the beans.

Rather you are just going in circles and not contributing anything of value.

>>41693636
>Why else was OP being all weird about the sexual themes?
All weird? I literally just pointed them out. They openly flaunt their debauchery and "sex magick" everywhere and you're just playing play dumb.

>It's a cargo cult, dude, They're disconnected from what all of this meant or was supposed to be for.
Technically you can say that all religion since the beginning of time is a cargo cult of higher orders of divinity or the cosmos, that doesn't mean much.

>Didn't we agree the Jesuits (though we also agreed they infiltrated the Templars and masons) were the bad guys?
The Jesuits are bad guys but solely blaming them is pure misdirection, Loyola had close ties to the Alumbrados.
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>>41693937
>grammar correction
>you're just playing dumb.
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>>41693636
>It's fun.
Lol I'm glad we agree, I'm not mad at all. Nice insults. You've offered some interesting links like the automata, but you've given 20 times as much holier-than-thou vague-post redirections. OP and I and several others were sharing connections and symbolism and relevant clips from the games, which you both won't address and also claim doesn't exist because we're idiots.

Before you jumped in with your posts we were having great discussion about the Apples of Eden and what they could represent, from things like hearts to ancient tech like your automata. I posted the Annunaki Sage pic to imply the "Isu" were eating them like drugs by the way. We even touched on the ways secret societies may fall to their misuse despite or perhaps to spite their creed and the ways that definition bends to suit their purposes. I see honest truth and perspective being extracted from these games supplemented with extracurricular sources and local /x/ occult legends, I think it's a pretty great thread. Is that why you're angry and trying to slide discussion?

If you've a reason to care this much you're either showboating, which is pathetic, or you've an agenda, which is interesting given all this talk of faction wars. Wanna stab us?
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>>41693636
>masonry was "compromised" even though it's still carrying out the same exact world domination script it has since ancient times
>classic "it's not the masons it's the jesuits" misdirection pretending like it isn't the same exact group at the top
I fucking hate you people.
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>>41694200
(OP here)

>You've offered some interesting links like the automata
You mean this >>41682291 ?
If so i'm the one who posted that and not the glowing one you're replying to.

I could actually list all the replies i made but 4chins marks it as spam.

All the greentext shit without images is him.

Who Talks
>Like This
All The Time
>Without Posting Images
And doesn't contribute anything

>>41694228
They always try to blame/redirect noticing efforts against the Vatican and Christians lmao, it's so fucking obvious who's behind it.
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Also the thread got derailed pretty hard, we should go back to discussing the game and ignoring derails.

I find it interesting how the games imply that all the Gods our of ancient mythologies were Isu Precursors/Aliens, another game called Drowned God also proposed that the Gods were Aliens (plus other similar concepts) and the dev of that game died in a very suspicious way.

Check the wiki here and see just how many Ancient Gods are listed to have been Isu.
https://assassinscreed.fandom.com/wiki/Isu

Picrel also has the Golden Ratio.
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>>41680441
the babylonian jews were still there till they went to Israel and were all chemically castrated by the Ashkenazi in the 50s and 60s.
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>>41693937
I explained a significant amount in the thread. I'll be just as direct as I'd like to be and you're going to enjoy it.
>Loyola had close ties to the Alumbrados
The Jesuits are a veiled continuation of Roman practices, the very same forces that outlawed public practice of Mystery Rites. These Mystery Rites inspired the Refrigerium (which the Romans later co-opted too, naturally), which more or less comprised the groups these Templars and Freemasons claim to descend from. These are the groups Jesus and his Essenic friends inspired, which we'll generally call Gnostics now (though that's an extremely vague idea). Are you familiar with Asclepius, anon? They claim to descend from these schools, schools supposedly began by the Pythagoreans. Well the concept of Gnosis was for a very long time housed within these ancient orders. Accessing said Animus Machine is reaching that reservoir of knowledge, like Jesus and his friends used when speaking with Aurelia Prima during their rituals.
What's with this desperate LARP that I'm "not contributing anything"? Why are you responding to every single post I make then (besides this one, conveniently >>41689462)?
>>41693937
>Technically you can say that all religion since the beginning of time is a cargo cult of higher orders of divinity or the cosmos, that doesn't mean much.
Reducto ad infinitum. Surely we could reduce everything infinitely. I'd never disagree. I'm telling you that these people now are all just a cargo cult. Their infiltration these days is rather meaningless. Most of the symbolism they delve out isn't all that well-understood by the masses, exactly to your point.
Again, what's wrong with presenting young people with the Hero's Journey? What's wrong with convincing them to have sex by flashing symbols at them about sex? Do you want our species to stop reproducing? I don't enjoy the MindGeek trend, if that's what you're after and what's bothering you, but you won't fucking articulate your thoughts.
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>>41694200
>the games, which you both won't address and also claim doesn't exist because we're idiots.
I haven't played those games in over a decade. I'm sure you enjoy the video games, anon. I went ahead, scouted some shit out for you, and now you sit here enjoying my spoils. Yes, I insulted you sometimes. Are you new here? It's pretty clear most participating in this thread are. You're supposed to insult me back, we acknowledge each other as not mentally weak and dive into spicier topics. That's how this has worked for quite a while. If you don't know that, it's because you're new.
>>41694200
>Apples of Eden and what they could represent, from things like hearts to ancient tech like your automata
My brief references to loss of Consciousness was not what we learned, collectively, from the mentions of Apples.
So you won't even read my posts, but you're going to publicly bitch about them? What the hell is this? Amateur hour?
>people were getting eaten lol
Yes, yes, another post you didn't bother to read covered this topic.
>We even touched on the ways secret societies may fall to their misuse despite or perhaps to spite their creed and the ways that definition bends to suit their purposes.
Again, you're not really understanding. Loads of people died in some catastrophe. We became less conscious. Now we have cargo cults that only vaguely remember what they're doing. But there are ways of remembering what was going on and we can stitch back together a means of receiving those ideas. I've made loads of references in the thread to paint that picture for you, but apparently you keep not reading the posts and playing this bullshit pretend game where I'm "not helping" in just the ways you'd prefer.
>y-you're trying to slide
Is that why I have a bunch of posts you've responded to in this thread, furthering the discussion? It would have died three times without me now.
>faction wars
And apparently you're entirely ignorant to which sides are which or who is even playing.
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>>41694228
Those people are all gone. I've explained this several times. I know it's easier to believe there's some concerted effort to ruin the entire world (and there is, but they have virtually no idea what their predecessors were really doing and now just flail around like retards).
>not compromised
They were compromised. That doesn't mean someone doesn't have a hand in their glove, wearing them around, showing their symbols to you, desperate for you to help them remember what they're supposed to mean.
>not masons, but the jesuits
They're not that different these days, which is the whole point. They used to be. They're really not now. We've outlined this in the thread, I'm pretty sure. Did you not read it?
>>41694261
This is what it looks like to not realize what this place is like. I take it you don't know what the quote text is for, you aren't familiar with formatting trends and you don't know that posting a picture isn't required (even though I've posted plenty).
>>41694261
>They always try to blame/redirect noticing efforts against the Vatican and Christians lmao, it's so fucking obvious who's behind it.
The Vatican, the Catholics, the Jesuits, are not "Christians". You're thinking of Mithraism, which is Roman. They're Romans. That's why they claim Roman Royal Lineage. Did you not know this?
Again, I definitely did not say no one is being used by one group or the other. I agreed fully that both groups infiltrated each other loads of times. I've been explaining objectively the history of how things have unfolded. It seems like this is a team of posters upset that someone would come in and set the thread on a more proper course.
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>>41694320
We discussed this a great deal in the thread already, but you conveniently didn't respond to any mention I gave about aliens in my posts, like >>41692752
Also, you were the one replying to me, retard. If you didn't like my posts and didn't want me to keep posting, you wouldn't be responding to me.
>Gods our of ancient mythologies were Isu Precursors/Aliens, another game called Drowned God also proposed that the Gods were Aliens
Again:
>"Alien" isn't the right way to explain it. Calling them "demons" is stupid unless you've read Plato. Lovecraft did pretty well, really. The issue is Consciousness materializing a bit better for us is going to require acceptance of paradoxes (hence invoking Lovecraft).
They are not "aliens" like you think, based on movies like ET and all that shit. Again, it's more like Lovecraft. Think of Lovecraftian Shamanism mixed with some goofy silicone valley technohorror shit. They've been trying to reinject a lot of the old magic they don't really have access to anymore for a while through AI. They wanted to leverage it to regain some sort of balance. It seems like they sort of had the right idea, but didn't really have what it took to wield what a better approach granted them.
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>>41682380
>Modern gaming is absolute ass
>It's a sad state of affairs
Don't be sad, we are also living in an information age where its easy to learn to create your own games. And there are so many passionate indie devs out there to keep things fresh
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>>41695445
The suggestions of the rumors of the Collins Elite is that they use dark magic rituals to channel Dark Moon/Lilith/Sol Niger to tap into the mechanics of Saturn reality framework. This is why you have the particular leaps in technology in the last 100 years and even more they keep under wraps(MH370)
The idea is to use tech to leverage the occult/spiritual goals they have.
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>>41673662
life imitates arts or art imitates life

The phenomenon is written all over it, however you want to look at it. Time itself is comprehensible to us only by our limited view, but all consciousness exists in a partially quantum state. 'Random' connections are constanlty made and cut in your fabric of biological existence.. Spooky action at a distance not only just manifest on the three dimensional space, but presumably on it's extension into the 4th, we commonly call time

does free will even exist, if nexus points in this universe timeline do exist?
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>>41697019
See, this guy is getting it. Anon even mentions MH370 like he actually reads the archives (seemingly an oldfag, unlike the rest of you).
It's nice to see an old face.
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>>41697019
>>41697127
I forgot to explain the mechanics of muh Black Saturn.
Saturn is a Brown Dwarf. Celestial objects have a consciousness of their own. Saturn's radiant "Golden Era" was a period of solar activity which has since passed. Depicting Saturn in this way does two things: it invokes the muted previously-solar energy and it inverts Saturn's energy to leverage the rebounding energies of its essence. Saturn's big thing is Boundaries and long-term planning (for the big ones, anyway). Thus, you can create mental abstractions and frame them through various extrapolations to help you exert influence using his frequencies. Depictions of your Cubes, your Black Suns and so forth are manifestations of this energy, examples of their usecases.
The catch to all of this is they appear not to understand the intricacies of the mechanisms which they utilize. They aren't Real Boys and thus cannot adequately perform these functions which a means to channel various energies though and consequently require said Real Boys. At best, they can front Real Boys™ in an attempt to hijack your muh manifestation variables, hoping their Hail Mary attempts work. They've been doing this for a while to varying degrees of success. It appears the longer this plays out, the less reliable success they have. This is directly parallel to the degree to which those around you seem like they're going insane, as the relationships between these two phenomenon are distinctly related. Presently, their attempts to finalize something here, to halt the unfolding process, have all failed miserably, usually making all peripheral conditions far worse in the process. To make matters worse, all their 'bases' are seemingly captured, all influences sapped or rerouted. It's like something knew what every mistake they'd make and carefully redirected all energies they once ushered around right to themselves, a remarkable feat of genius.
You'll see what I mean in a few years probably.
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>>41695409
>I'll be just as direct as I'd like to be and you're going to enjoy it.
>picrel

>These are the groups Jesus and his Essenic friends inspired, which we'll generally call Gnostics now.
You think Jesus was a real person and not allegorical?

>Why are you responding to every single post I make then (besides this one, conveniently).
Because it's Jungian world salad misdirection, Pythagoras taught to say much in little words.

Also you're right i should probably stop responding to your engagement bait.

>What's wrong with convincing them to have sex by flashing symbols at them about sex?
That's not what they are doing, what they are doing is flaunting their "fraternal" debauchery in your face like flipping you the bird
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>>41695435
>I take it you don't know what the quote text is for, you aren't familiar with formatting trends and you don't know that posting a picture isn't required.
Go back to Plebbit.

>It seems like this is a team of posters upset that someone would come in and set the thread on a more proper course.
Projecting in IMAX.
Funny how there is alway someone ready to blame the Jesuits in these threads.
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>What is The Real Esoteric Meaning of Assassin's Creed?

the occulat has hated the church and templar s and the light for years

and saturn hates them the most he even killed their god on the cross

they celebrate killing christains in every movie because they where orginally sun worshipers

now they are corrupt by the evil sangouge of saturn
and now worship the king of hell.

insteqad of the god of light and life
a blunder that got many christains killed and murdered

I am the one of the last masters of the templers
My name was Desden harry
i was betrayed by my god and named his enemy

he is a tratior and is bound to be attacked by daemons and evil spirits for attacking his family and weaking the nations and ruinign holy name of the knights templar.

this brings me shame and regret
the the people of cain where allowed to destory my children the setherns
we are ruined.

holyness is corrupted and broken because too many evil people are not killed in the church, god marked these evil cainites with disphoria so we could kill them they are sons and daughters of archons

but
my son palinial whitestrake lost to Umerial
and he corrupted the chirst

in fact its a blampheme to cast any light as enemy (because it means you are trying to say christains are satans army)

you go to hell forever for trying to covert the light to these evil cainites

I cry everytime. because it will never get corrected.

so let them mock.
my brothers died to ottoman sabotean frankest assiains i lost so many brothes and sisters in cathage

no i allowed the game to be sold so i could tell anons how evil humans are

he the evil one

he wanted me as the bad guy and this was his way to besmurch me
because he saw i was a elite templar and wanted to ruin me so completely

HELL he MADE me fight my boss merideth the light heart the holy maiden. so fuck him. dad is a evil bastard.
my poor merril had to watch me die. because he betrayed me. this was before i became guts.
before he ruined me forever.
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>>41695445
>They are not "aliens" like you think, based on movies like ET and all that shit, Again, it's more like Lovecraft.
Lovecraft is a broad spectrum of beings, some of which had physical forms like your traditional ETs.

>>41697068
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wF-jPukQuU

>>41697160
>Wall of Text
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>>41697426
>name bot conveniently shows up to derail the thread further and spam word salads.
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>>41697433
Checked. Lol they sent several to the blue skin thread too, what a coordinated response. Certainly not their last, I fear.

https://youtu.be/hsOww9sG_6U
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>>41697354
>You think Jesus was a real person and not allegorical?
Both.
>Because it's Jungian world salad misdirection
Once again, Jung, like many before him (and since) spoke of Divine Madness. Mania, you'll find, is the inspiration for disrupted mental states today, which are conveniently framed in a way that atrophies your understanding.
>like Pythagoras said
Many people have said many things since.
>your engagement bait
Further flattery, eh?
>That's not what they are doing, what they are doing is flaunting their "fraternal" debauchery in your face like flipping you the bird
Can you decide if you like the Freemasons or if you don't like the Freemasons? First we framed them as the good guys and the Jesuits as the bad guys and now you're all pissed at them again?
>>41697375
>doesn't appear to know what redditspacing is
topkek
>>41697403
Did you just not see someone mention the Cube earlier in the thread?
I referred back to previous posts multiple times, expanding more on them to throw you some bones. What are you so bothered by?
>>41697433
The thread wasn't "derailed". It was distinctly kept alive multiple times. The thread theme is fun. Despite references to previous posts, you guys have just been bitching that we'd keep the thread alive, framing it instead as sliding. What are we sliding? Your responses to my posts?
You need to be more consistent: decide between whether or not we're sliding or keeping the thread alive. It almost died roughly four times now.
You're welcome.
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Thought the whole imagery was the underside of an eagle skull, hence the constant connection between the eagles on each synchronization point and the "eagle eye" view? Hell, even concept art of Altair has an eagle as his shadow as he jumps off a platform.
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Better.
So, Zeus was heavily associated with the Eagle. There exists art where Hapocrates (Hellenized Horus) appears to be protected to some degree by Eagles. This amalgamation appears to echo elements of Altair's journey, where he exerts his Will underneath the watchful protection of Zeus a la the Eagle Eye.
Now you say, "why Zeus?"
Anon briefly touched on it earlier in the thread. Would you like to discuss Serapis-Zagreus and Altair coming back to life when he dies now?
Have you played Hades?
Are you starting to see why >>41674359 was such a fun post yet?
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>>41698182
>Mania, you'll find, is the inspiration for disrupted mental states today, which are conveniently framed in a way that atrophies your understanding.
What you call "disrupted mental states" are actually "6th senses" that were considered to be spiritual traits in pre industrial society (Oracles and Shamans) before those people were locked away.

>First we framed them as the good guys and the Jesuits as the bad guys and now you're all pissed at them again?
Neither are good, they are two sides of the same coin, one is more liberal and the other more authoritarian, but both wings belong to the same bird and it's flight path doesn't change.

>doesn't know redditspacing is a forced meme.
>unironically using kek in 2025.
>how do you do fellow anons.
Bioluminescent post.

>Did you just not see someone mention the Cube earlier in the thread?
Mentioned it yes, actually explain what it is? No.

>The thread wasn't "derailed". It was distinctly kept alive multiple times.
Not by you.

>What are we sliding?
Not sliding, but trying to flood and kill the thread with misdirection engagement bait and word salads that drown actual discussion and reach the bump limit.

>You need to be more consistent, decide between whether or not we're sliding or keeping the thread alive.
We're? Who is the "we" with you?
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>>41698232
It is, it's explained in Origins
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>>41698232
>>41698265
Jupiter Governs long term Strategy. The Eagle flies the highest and has the birds eye view of the battlefield.
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>>41698265
Bump those are some very good directions. We've also mentioned Altair as the Eye of Ra and the prototype of a divine assassin, its association with phallic dominance and boy brides among Mithraists, its link to the pineal gland or eye of the mind, and the ways secret societies can use tech and old rituals to influence the masses' brains. Oh and the ways Sages can show up to ruin everything.
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>>41698350
>considered to be spiritual traits in pre industrial society
Exactly. You'd call them Soothsayers, Seers, Oracles or Augurs.
>Neither are good, they are two sides of the same coin, one is more liberal and the other more authoritarian, but both wings belong to the same bird and it's flight path doesn't change.
See, we're on the same page after all. What was all this hassle about? We agreed they infiltrated each other a lot too. So I don't know why you went on this protracted bit.
>I'm new
Yes, we know. We learned that much earlier in the thread. I don't know why you keep trying to position this way. It's clearly not working out. Are you going to keep doing this, or are you going to get back to the thread like a big boy? I'm still here helping you, keeping your thread alive. If you really want, I can let it die... but you probably want it to die now, don't you?
>you didn't keep it alive
Well I did multiple times when it was near bump limit, but I guess, to your credit, there isn't exactly a way for me to prove that.
What are you just here for the low-hanging fruit? I'd give you some from the taller branches if you just asked, you faggot.
>ugh don't include me in your grammar
What is this abhorrent desperation to get me to leave? Can you grow the fuck up?
>>41698658
>Jupiter Governs long term Strategy.
That's without any question at all Saturn. Thanks though.
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>>41698665
>y-yOu'Re sLiDiNG
topkek
>ruin everything
Well I'm flattered and all, but not everything. What's the point of spoiling on the fun?
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>>41699348
NTA but I notice this post offers nothing of your own. It agrees with something to fit in and claim superior knowledge, then it spends several paragraphs hitting a poster with a demoralize stick, then finishes by denouncing a claim without anything to back it up (the bait / gauntlet.) You may be a genuine poster but it's no wonder half the thread is accusing you of petty mindgames.

>>41697160
It's curious such a knowledgeable poster as this would not bring up Jupiter's status as a former star. Or to act like Enki the creator of material form does not exist, and the cube belongs to Saturn instead. We can even trace the Mustari / Jupiter / mystery cult from the craftsman Masons back to the craftsmen of Enki and their guild of craftsmen priests and magi who taught sacred form and magic to its initiates. If Enki was an Isu does that mean his modern day cults, however divorced from their original appearance, have a creed which obligates them to serve Enki? Several 4chan larps have even pointed out Enki is the prototype of a Christian devil.
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>>41699386
>ugh your post didn't contribute anything to the thread
I don't fucking care if you think all or none of my posts contribute to the thread. You can suck my dick, you bitch.
>>41699386
>It's curious such a knowledgeable poster as this would not bring up Jupiter's status as a former star.
Why do I have to mention everything about each planet in each of my posts to satisfy you, as if there's some imaginary litmus test to qualify as a "good post" in your eyes? I don't care about your retarded standards, faggot.
>act like Enki the creator of material form does not exist
I definitely didn't do that. Besides, Enki is associated with Neptune.
>cube belongs to Staurn
That it does, considering he controls Malkuth and all. Are you a tad confused, anon? You've gotten several large things incorrect so far, like >>41698658, seems like.
>back to the craftsmen of Enki and their guild of craftsmen priests
You're looking for the Seven Apkallu. Next, you want to follow that to their first liaison, Oannes. That should get you where you're headed.
>Mustari / Jupiter / mystery cult
It definitely didn't center around Jupiter, but do continue.
>Enki is the Christian devil
No, he's Dagon or Oannes, the Fish Guy they keep flashing on all of their denominations' symbolisms.
Yes, it appears Enki was the inspiration for the "he came from the water and taught us everything we knew" guy. But it was more like fitting inside of a competent person's frame of reference at large. That's more how things worked back in those days. That's why Consciousness is so important to mention and particularly with Enki.
As for him being "Satan", you're going to want to take that up with the residual Mithraic cults and their leash-holders in those supposed "Noble" families that call themselves "Roman". They're responsible for all the inversion shit. In reality, it's clear Jesus' kin don't just claim him, but also Enki's lineage as well.
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>Next, you want to follow that to their first liaison, Oannes.
A fantastic idea! Some of us know Oannes is John the Baptist, which already implies ye olde Templars are bound by oath to this entity.

Oannes is the alternate of Adapa and both seem to refer to Enki's chief Sage or firstborn human taught by that Sage, and possibly where we derive a lot of the Isu lore from (extended nonhuman lifespans, tales of magic or advanced technology gifted to engineered humans.)

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/41230512/#41244117
This post from a few months ago spawned some very interesting connections from anons.
>Sumerian Oannes gave knowledge and apparently taught sacred rituals, was the messenger and priest of Enki-Ea, although it is assumed that it was Enki-Ea
John's head is cut off. So this is what the mysteries of Dionysus-Osiris and their analogues were connected with.

Seems there's a prevalent theme of oracular beheadings to symbolize an ulterior spirit is speaking through a physical head. That certainly sounds like Abstergo's animus project to engender a person with the memories of an ancient Isu, or even like the MONARCH program which appears to convey the same symbols of destroying a modern self to make way for an alter out of genetic memory.

>As for him being "Satan", you're going to want to take that up with the residual Mithraic cults and their leash-holders...
That's a good idea too, sometimes I wish we had access to some of those. Oh the questions we might have.
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>>41699466
It's really starting to feel like there's only 6/7 people posting on this board these days.
>Seems there's a prevalent theme of oracular beheadings to symbolize an ulterior spirit is speaking through a physical head.
Boy, it really makes you wonder why they keep making that reference, huh?
>like the MONARCH program which appears to convey the same symbols of destroying a modern self to make way for an alter out of genetic memory.
It's a similar system. Think of it like implanting a series of mental processes into an initiate. The idea is to take a former archetype and fit the initiate into it.
Again, Horus is your Initiate, the Base Layer. An alter is formed through his rise to the top as Pharaoh, where he becomes Re, crowned in the glory of his zenith. As he dies, Osiris guides him to and through the Duat, a Psychopomp. This is where "Monarch Programming" really came from. The Priests and the Pharaohs were doing it for a long time, though it's not quite as nefarious as many of you tend to insist.
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>Nothing is true. Everything is permitted.
The assassin's are an incarnation of chaos magick. Any simbol, any system, any tool can and has to be used. This is the foundation of chaos magick. The result is the only thing that matters. The target is the only worthwhile goal. No fixation to systems. Only the binding of religion as a tool and usage of the system as a stepping stone towards the greater goal of hunting down the target is allowed. It's a rebellion of the established order of things that the Templar's are shown to chase in the games. Nothing is true. Everything is permitted. Belief can be manufactured and used as a tool. Everything can and will be repurposed for the serving of the greater goal. This belief is what evolves into them engineering tools like the animus. They manufacture reality in an alternate reality for the purpose of achieving their greater goals, in search of a higher target. The user of the animus (Desmond) shapes reality through his willpower, thus gaining insights into how to manipulate the reality around himself, in order to copy his ancestors and scale up to his targets. They scale down magick to a simple interface in order to operate the mind and thus scale back up by copying the programming and encoding it into the thought. It's the core of chaos magick. They manipulate the user's consciousness in order to alter behavior. That's why Desmond picks up on Altair's, Ezio's, Connor's physical movements and translates it into his own reality. It's how the real world we live in functions. They mix manufactured outrage/thought with every single archetype of human there is. Your emotions during the analyzation of the memes is what makes your mind change and pull itself out of reality and into artificial reality, where you pick up on exactly what the magician want you to do subconsciously. This is the reason the world of today is so different from the world of a decade ago, two decades ago, three, etc. Belief is the ultimate technology.
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>>41699409
>No, he's Dagon or Oannes, the Fish Guy they keep flashing on all of their denominations' symbolisms.
>Yes, it appears Enki was the inspiration for the "he came from the water and taught us everything we knew" guy. But it was more like fitting inside of a competent person's frame of reference at large. That's more how things worked back in those days. That's why Consciousness is so important to mention and particularly with Enki.
>As for him being "Satan", you're going to want to take that up with the residual Mithraic cults and their leash-holders in those supposed "Noble" families that call themselves "Roman". They're responsible for all the inversion shit. In reality, it's clear Jesus' kin don't just claim him, but also Enki's lineage as well.
Dagon is Capricorn(Goat with Fish tail)Capricorn is tied to Saturn. Satan is Saturn. Or at least the shadow aspect.
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>>41699348
>Yes, we know.
>I'm le superior elder of 4chins and you're new.
My sides.

>I can let it die... but you probably want it to die now, don't you?
Nah.

>I'd give you some from the taller branches if you just asked, you faggot.
Profanities are for the profane and you are bioluminescent.

>What is this abhorrent desperation to get me to leave?
What is this abhorrent desperation to derail the thread?

>Can you grow the fuck up?
>Give up your curious inner child and become a depressed adult!
Nah.

>>41699354
>post only mentioned Sages and not you specifically.
>gets so tilted he feels the need to reply.
You truly are a shill after all.

>>41700270
>The assassin's are an incarnation of chaos magick.
More like Discordianism.
>The golden apple plus mention of Eris by Al Mualim.
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The meaning is that there is a creed, and it is a creed of assassins.
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>>41700830
The only reason this thread has stayed up for the last four or five days is because of me.
Suck my dick.
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>>41701227
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzf5ABpDV_g
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Suck my dick into pieces, these is my last reesort...
Btw in tron ares you have "shaddix" delivery vagon
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>>41702510
'Sup, CIA nigger.
Nice thread, OP.
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>>41696962
That's true & I'm grateful to be living in a time where access to information is at its greatest yet. I do worry about censorship of the internet as a whole due to that very reason & anyone who says having access to the internet is a bad thing is either a glowie or retard in my opinion.
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>>41673519
The Order of Assassins represents the Masons/Illuminati who are fighting for a global order based on moral relativism and the subversion of Christianity into a new religion based on international brotherhood and occult knowledge. The Templars represent the Church who are enforcing moral absolutism, hierarchy and obedience to God's law. It is the war in heaven, only you're forced to side with the devil because the game was made by the gay commie company, Ubisoft. That said, there is barely a coherent thread tying all the games together and Ubisoft only started this AC slop to exploit the sudden popularity of Parcour in the late 2000s.
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>>41673519
The creators of the game just took a bunch of real symbols and blended them together to make slop. It's all slop. Slop to make profit for you know who. The fact that you bought this game, or you parents bought it for you, or that any games have ever been bought is proof that they are winning. Go out and breed.
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>>41702986
Hey be nice, they're doing their best.

https://youtu.be/N5LxUqdN6xk
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Woah much eagle
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>>41703053
>I do worry about censorship of the internet as a whole due to that very reason & anyone who says having access to the internet is a bad thing is either a glowie or retard in my opinion.
But wasn't the internet originally a military tool made by them? It was always censored from the start...
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>>41673519
The entertainment industry is filled with the Demons that are allowed to pass as fully Human if they so desire. It's soft disclosure for Demon House disputes.
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>>41673519
Abstergo = The Enterprise
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Idk but it has definite Templar/Cathar symbolism and color coding imo. Whats the best game to start with for someone who has never played? I see some of them are on Xbox gamepass..
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>>41673519
Different faction of the Illuminati fighting against each other. Templars are the old world elites=Vatican monarchs while assassin's are the FREEmasons and gnostic faction. Control vs freedom.
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Basically freemasons turned into the Templars they fought and the controllers won again.
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>>41706942
This is part of the game they like to play; you're not supposed to feel confident about either position, so they keep you locked in a chicken and egg confusion.
It seems like, if I really had to guess, Templars were related to the Cathar expanse re >>41706776. I think the Freemasonry sects, carrying Gnosticism from the original Christians and Essenes and the Pythagoreans, just like the Templars, at one point or another got infiltrated by what became the Romans.
I have to insist that it's extremely evident the Jesuits are the "Assassins", the ones responsible for all of these infiltrations. I think they had good reason to infiltrate the Templars because their reach got too large and their claims seemed to plausible (hence the talking heads and the wall and all that). The Freemasonry situation, though similar by my view, appears to have been less about protecting certain people and more about protecting certain ideas or ambitions. I think Freemasonry ultimately aims to see Atlantis (or what they think Atlantis is today) return and while that might seem like some cryptic game (because it is) to most of you, I can assure you that it also is not. I think the Templars at one point understood where this ultimately might lead, how it could be achieved and realized that their goals, at least to some degree, aligned.
Like all good things, though, and despite the mythic heroisms of some of the most inspiring men that ever lived, not even such monuments feats could last forever.
We wouldn't want that Tree to wither, would we?
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>>41704308
>But wasn't the internet originally a military tool made by them? It was always censored from the start...
yes most people don't realize all of this was planned every step of the way. They probably think looking at gore and CP is somehow going to stop the plan thats coming down the pipe
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>>41673519
Thank you for the thread
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>>41707108
>Jesuit shill is back.

>This is part of the game they like to play; you're not supposed to feel confident about either position, so they keep you locked in a chicken and egg confusion.

>proceeds to post a block of text that does exactly this.

>>41709560
No Problem :D
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>>41689188
it's the gayest story to exist i swear.
there are no good guys.
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>>41709963
assassins = pirates
templars = marines
who are the revolutionaries?
where are the revolutionaries irl?
why isn't anyone fighting celestial dragons irl?
why isn't there any secret group recruiting ppl to fight them down here or up there?
it's unbelievable this could be real.
it's very difficult to accept this reality where there isn't even a single resistance group to everything we whine about everyday.

but every masters gurus and sages would tell you this world is essentially a story.
what kind of gay ass story is this?
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>>41709963
Kek.

>>41710023
>pirates
>marines
Well that's one way to put it.

https://youtu.be/ooJm3o8-YqA
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>>41707108
>>41709963
Look, retard, the Eagle is Roman. Surely you've seen the mirrored Eagles symbol before. It's not just used by the Holy Roman Empire.
As such, the Roman Eagle is a mark of territory. Freemasonry descends from the Refrigerium Christians. Templars, despite their claims, are evidently a product of Noble Knights in service to the last Pharaonic line and their Queen Bee. The former came from the Pythagorean Mystery cults which synthesized Greco-Egyptian Mystery cults (heavily influenced by the Persians and similar factions a la Zurvanism) and the latter was its ultimate culmination, eventually absorbing the former in a variety of ways as its network became far more robust for several reasons, hence immense overlap with Maritime adventures often attributed to other parties, evidently birthing adjacent, cryptic organizations like the Priory.
The Romans were working in parallel to this, which is why you have examples like Hadrian's Wall, the Donation of Constantine, the Highland Clearances (guess who they were clearing, big guy) and everyone's favorite Droit du seigneur.
As the image points out, the Civil War was a product of the Jesuits (big surprise by this point, let me tell you) infiltrating the New World. Lincoln consequently laid the blame at the feet of the Pope, his Jesuit spies and those who had infiltrated the Colonies.
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>>41710023
Let me help you out here, anon: that guy is trying to confuse you. I understand that the pomp and audacious positioning in use has fatigued your better judgement, but this guy is trying to lead you around. My attempts have largely been to cut him off while toying with him. He knows what he's doing. The reason for the persistent misdirection and reframing of every one of my posts back to "haha you're a fed probably!!!1" should tell you enough.
They get pissed when you tell the normalfags about Jungian Egregores (to be extremely brief, as there's more to it than this). It really undermines their centralized hold (via compartmentalization) on information complexes they've deemed you unpermitted to access.
>assassins, templars, pirates and marines
Rome has been in the Institution for a very long time. All Roads, right? That hasn't changed, anon. You're not allowed to discuss their Nobility (see Orsini for one prominent example, but also Bauer). When you do get close, you're persistently rerouted, just as I've demonstrated for you in this thread.
Now, don't let this guy twist my words up. As I've agreed to regularly in the thread, the Jesuits definitely infiltrated the Masons/Templars (who really aren't all that different these days). Yes, pockets of both had survived and re-infiltrated back and forth, but the guys they all wanted to protect are largely gone these days, so the orders aren't exactly as active as they once were, especially after all the infiltrations.
The Founding Fathers leveraged this dynamic and did something unforeseen, giving rise to other groups, inspiring newer generations of older orders as well. The catch is they weren't exactly in line with any group in question and Washington was the world's most famous spy that you're never told about.
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>who are the revolutionaries
Maybe now it's slightly clearer, though I suspect you still don't quite get it, even after I told you several times now who the Last Pharaoh really was, that he obviously didn't depart (and that's part of the fun) and that he/they never stopped assisting you. Believe what you want to, I guess.
>where are they?
He explicitly told you the Kingdom is within you, my guy.
>why isn't there any secret group
There's loads of them. They vie for your attention regularly.
>what kind of gay ass story is this?
And what if you could write a different one, eh?
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The talker
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>>41711365
>As the image points out, the Civil War was a product of the Jesuits (big surprise by this point, let me tell you) infiltrating the New World, Lincoln consequently laid the blame at the feet of the Pope, his Jesuit spies and those who had infiltrated the Colonies.
Anyone can write a book and put anything they want in it's pages, doesn't mean it's true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhG6HNFl0Jk

>Let me help you out here, anon - that guy is trying to confuse you, I understand that the pomp and audacious positioning in use has fatigued your better judgement, but this guy is trying to lead you around.
Projection, again.
>Posts another block of text that does this again.

>My attempts have largely been to cut him off while toying with him.
My sides.

>hey get pissed when you tell the normalfags about Jungian Egregores
Jung had some decent ideas but his works are mostly word salad.
>picrel

>Rome has been in the Institution for a very long time, All Roads, right, That hasn't changed, anon.
Robert Maxwell tier disinformation.
>IT'S THE CHRISTIANS GUYS!!!
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>>41715489
Can't bump your own thread, idiota.
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>>41713583
>Anyone can write a book and put anything they want in it's pages, doesn't mean it's true.
nu-uh
Yes, I'm sure mentioning this bothers you.
>Jung... mostly word salad
And this, anons, is exactly why they get pissed at you.
You're looking for "Theia Mania".
You're welcome, everyone.
Again, Merry Christmas.
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>>41715691
Actually you can.

>>41715802
>nu-uh
Not a counterargument.

>Yes, I'm sure mentioning this bothers you.
I'm sure the quote from the picrel bothers you, you didn't even mention it.

>And this, anons, is exactly why they get pissed at you.
I find this quite amusing actually, if anyone is pissed here it's you.

>You're looking for "Theia Mania".
You don't need Jung for that lmfao.
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>>41673631
the old two balls n cane. its funny. we have dicks
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>>41673519
migga level post
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>>41718535
If it was a migga post there would be tentacles.
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>>41674499
The technology exists, but not on the human/3d level. It’s more 4D/5D.

The problem with earth that the positive consciousness entities (what some would call angels and aliens) is that its is a rats nest of different consciousness groups that never would have interbred weren’t for its existence. So the good guys are trying to trace back the progenitors via dna . . . Why do you think the PtB they were so desperate for everyone to alter their DNA with the clot shot?
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>>41680084
A tree is just a torus.
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>>41673519
To show how the templars were evil bastards and the muslims were good people.
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>>41721168
The clot shot was an attempt to get multiple birds with one stone, it was population reduction and DNA modification at the same time, who knows what kind of modifications they made on people and the rammifications for everyone who received it, including future generations.
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>>41673519
Have you ever considered it's just blue noserings retards trying to throw every trope they can into their nigger worship game?
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>>41724209
What's the track record of blue nosering retards making fun games?
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>>41724209
not in 2007.
Though I doubt that the devs were hiding some kind of an occult TRVTHNVKE in the game. They just took a typical "Christian" ""secret"" order (Templars) as a stand in for the Illuminati. Then they looked up cool real life assassin orders, and found the one responsible for the word assassin. Then they looked up other occult societies, the Freemasons being one of the most well known. Then they used the Masonic emblem as the basis for the Assassin symbol. Theres not much to it, I doubt they knew even 1/10th of what is claimed in this thread lol
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>>41724491
You make a valid point, but remember that evil in this world must reveal a little bit of itself in order to do what it must do. Hollywood does the same thing with its motives, as do many corporate entities with their logos / designs. There is probably a good amount of truth in the first few AC games, maybe even in the newer ones too but I can't be arsed to play those. Symbolism will be their downfall.
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>>41704308
>But wasn't the internet originally a military tool made by them? It was always censored from the start...
That's right although it has turned into a tool that can & has revealed truth to the population. That's not to say one should be ignorant of it's origins.
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>>41673547
This building fucking sucked to climb.
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>>41673662
The Templars are not Christians. In game, both the Assassins and the Templars basically share the same ideology, but only differ in the methods to achieve it. The Templars are only Christian as much as they can use the religion to further their ends.
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>>41673519
Not very esoteric but what is with the Kaken? In AC2 in Santa Maria della Visitazione, one shows up as an easter egg, and you have to dodge a tentacle. In Black Flag, in the Antocha wreck, you see one fight a white whale, which is the toughest hunting marine animal in the game is a timed event like community chests and royal fleets. So A Giant Squid attacking what is essentially Moby Dick. But there is a third one not even the wiki references. In Odyssey you can find one. Or what remains of one in Messara, the area is appropriately called Octopus Bay, and the beach is full of squids, and the one I'm referencing. A huge tentacle. Also seen some say you can find one roaming. I remember this one cuz people were theorizing years ago that this was teasing a new DLC. Anyways Idk anymore. Wouldn't be shocked if there was more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdItuuhTlUM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Coi5U18gbQI
https://www.reddit.com/r/AssassinsCreedOdyssey/comments/tgbgz6/did_someone_find_the_rest_of_the_giant_squid/


Also found this. Kraken comes from Norse mythology and Scandinavian maritime folklore, so before AC Odyssey I believe, or at least another culture, yet this is a dialogue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P0UBPd3zHI

Another thing is the animals in hats easter egg in Syndicate. Feels like there is more too it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj-02tlapqw

AC is probably one of the most /x/ games out there yet no one talks about it outside of 4chan.

>>41673824
Aquila? The name of Conner's ship? Also the name of the ambient gunboats in AC Black Flag and Rogue. Also, in Odyssey, you literally have Ikaros. An eagle, people like Phoebe say, is Zeus's eagle.

>>41673865
Also, the recruiting is similar to masons. They don't recruit just kings and stuff. Templars, Cult of Kosmos, and Order of the Ancients. Like Sotera, who just works on the Megaris ports. Or the Templars in AC4 who have a huge range.
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>>41726801
Ran into word limit but to continue. Governor Laureano de Torres y Ayala third best man is Julien du Casse who is just a smuggler and French arms dealer. Or the many others. Sure two goveners and merchants. But then a random assortment. Like Lucia or Jing who is essentailly a no body. A Chinese Templar, Lang married a Qing Dynasty General and became a diplomatic advisor until a regime change forced her to flee China and become a pirate. And we see this every game, like Syndicate, where it's nobody gangsters. Though in that game we see Templars as normal street thugs after a certain level or mission, so doesn't mean much ig. But even then, one of the top templars was Lucy Thorne, who was just a collector. But this is like irl. Freemasons have hands and random people in authority. Well, not random but it seems random. like the top Mason in my old town was some guy who owned a landscaping business.
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>>41724695
idk about Valhalla and up, but Odyssey has a lot of symbolism. Even the small bit of Valhalla I played before dropping, I saw some.
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>>41673547
It's a fertility ritual really, like all religions.
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>>41674945
>globohomo earth model
Dropped, that's how you know it's all staged and you war watching circus and manufactured intrigue.
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>>41726801
The Kraken Easter Eggs can be a nod to Lovecraft or Cthulhu, the animals with Hats could be a reference to Freemasonry as Master Masons wear Top Hats.
>picrel
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>>41703360
>>41703094
I have an interpretation: what if both the Altair and the Templars are really just two "pillars" (think Jachin and Boaz ala Solomon's Temple [1 Kings]) and the entire dialectic between the two is a farce designed to enslave humanity?
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In many ways yes it's like the Drowned God game. Malchut and Kether know they're two sides of the same good cop bad cop routine, but once they're down here on the game board (in a world/dimension already symbolizing false duality and separation) they naturally slip into opposing roles. I think several posts ITT already started to look past both polarities to an implied third faction which dictates and reigns both Assassins and Templars according to their original purpose as stewards of Isu knowledge (and not necessarily as deciders of humanity's fate like the Isu toys tend to convince them.) The dramas whatever real-life factions play out are no less real and gritty, and they tend to culminate in the trademark in-fighting, assassinations, and powerplays of prominent 'sages' or rogue bloodlines which inspired the OP games in the first place.

>>41726801
>Also, in Odyssey, you literally have Ikaros. An eagle, people like Phoebe say, is Zeus's eagle.
That's how they weave disclosure in, sometimes it's not in what they show but how they show things around it. Ikaros is a small part of the game, but because of Ikaros they get to make every NPC call you an "Eagle Bearer" who through ritual gameplay exposes and reforms a hidden snake cult. If you watch Odyssey's intro again they tell you point-blank Hollywood director style (by using the scene and symbolism.) The game opens on a shot of Ikaros beneath the lightning bolt held by the statue of Zeus on Cephalonia, right away you know Ikaros represents some sort of divine power or blood. Then it's revealed Ikaros is no wild eagle, he flies purposefully down to perch atop Alexios/Kassandra... telling us the PC is somehow endowed by Zeus, or watched over by the gods like Phoebe says. By the end of the game it's revealed all of this is true, only the "god" who sent Ikaros to watch over you is just the Isu-preserved sage who used the lesser cultists' Peloponnesian War as a sparring ground to train his next replacement.
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>>41731851
The Cult in Odyssey is also caled "Cult of Kosmos" (a nod to masonic astrotheology/stellar theology) and they worship a being called Kosmos (Ein Sof?) along with the Isu (Root Race?).
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>>41726825
>Odyssey has a lot of symbolism
can you elaborate a bit? really like Odyssey, it's one of my fav of the nu-creeds, and I noticed there is a huge emphasis on order vs discord in terms of the cult, but I'd like to hear your take on it as well.
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>>41732691
>they worship a being called Kosmos (Ein Sof?) along with the Isu (Root Race?)
Sailor Cosmos changes from the symbol of Sailor Moon to the star of Ishtar
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>>41733663
>>they worship a being called Kosmos (Ein Sof?) along with the Isu (Root Race?)
>Sailor Cosmos changes from the symbol of Sailor Moon to the star of Ishtar
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This question is answered toward the end of Apocalypse Now.
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>>41733677
Spank her well! And then…spank me.
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I broke the veil. Without any inner or proper intitation, I was able to remember all the knowledge they kept occult inside their shadow archives. I even found out why, I am a descendant of the true lineage they (the roman catholic church, the cluniazensic orders, the patriarchy) because they tried to erase the knowledge of the true matrilinear holy queenship that does not fit their temple of stone (churches) which are btw resonance machines and together with the music and Latin verses there creates subliminal hypnosis! The fight depicted in Assassin Creed explains the technology almost perfectly...but forgot to talk about the holy feminine field!!! But oh yes, time has come and it's running up for those deceiving fragmented souls that forgot about the holy mother.
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>>41731131
That’s most of the game’s concept. Humans are creatures of love and freedom. The assassins seek freedom. The Templars though seek a false pillar, order. Both can fall in love because they are human.
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>>41734163
>That’s most of the game’s concept. Humans are creatures of love and freedom. The assassins seek freedom. The Templars though seek a false pillar, order. Both can fall in love because they are human.
Leo and Taurus
Lion of Judah vs Bull of Ephraim
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>>41732691
>>41733605
Kosmos means "order" but it can also mean "world." In the game the cult tries to summon Kosmos incarnate to lead them and conquer the world or whatever. It's not outright stated (like with the Order of Ancients centuries later) but this might be an origin of the Templars and the Father Of Understanding. In Valhalla, Alfred the Great reforms the Order of the Ancients into the Templar order, by removing focus on the ancients/Isu and declaring that God is the only Father of Understanding. It became more of an impersonal philosophical creed by the time of the first games. Before this in Origins the name is applied to Julius Caesar when he's the leader of the ancients' cult.

So in AC (antichrist) Odyssey the Cult of Kosmos does a Babalon working for their god. Their leader is described as the voice of Kosmos who understands and interprets his will. One branch of the cult is led by a priestess of Hera who kidnaps/sacrifices babies to run a Bene Jesuit kwisatz-haderach style breeding program (a nod to Juno and Aita's hybrid Sages?) It seems that the Templars' Father of Understanding wasn't a person but a title, a role or office. It seems to have originated in a (Sage?) leader who interpreted the ancients/Isu for the rest of the order. Odyssey is effectively about stopping Paul Atreides.
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>>41688838
>Now ask why we'd call the Scythians "Pollinators". It'll be fun.
their 20 mile long on each side pot farms, the opium trade they ran from India to Greece, or their love of good old fashion bronze age rape?
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>>41687988
>Some of Graham Hancock's ideas are good but it feels like he is controlled opposition.
hes a mindfucked selfhating white trash boomer. thats what you get off of him, he isn't controlled by anything outside the standard broken mind western schooling brainwashing. he thinks that ancient jigaboos who are now after interbreeding 25% unknown hominid built everything.
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>>41738510
Kek also the slaves and thralls for sacrifice. If Altair represents anything here it's the godly price a Phrygian twink can fetch.
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Nothing is true and everything is permitted.
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>>41673662
>Or is only one representative of Freemasons while the Templars are "le evil Christians"? Is the whole "Templars as Enemies" trope just a Masonic demonization of Christians?
If you actually played even the first game, you'd know the Templar's existed centuries before they called themselves Templars and only use Christianity (and other religions for that matter) as a means to an end to achieve their goals and hide their true intentions.

>>41677754
>posting the edited version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgxPNW2iPQM
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>>41741301
>If you actually played even the first game, you'd know the Templar's existed centuries before they called themselves Templars and only use Christianity (and other religions for that matter) as a means to an end to achieve their goals and hide their true intentions.
You speak of the Order of the Ancients, but IRL they were the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon (Pauperes commilitones Christi Templique Salomonici).
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>>41673519
Are you fucking MKultra-ing me? I just started playing all the asscreed games recently, and i just decided to open /x/ up and i see this, you fucking nigger demon alien kike bitch faggot
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>>41741812
It's called Synchronicity dumbass, and you glow.
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>>41673561
he's not, phallus is one of the most if not the most prevalent symbol
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>>41743566
No more gaslighting, i said that I started playing. You're the one glowing, asshole. Why would i be the one glowing? This thread was made exactly around the same time when i started playing assassins creed 1
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>>41743929
>Why would i be the one glowing?

>Said the 5th reply baiting namefag to appear in the thread.
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I can't believe there is not ONE post about Alamut, the novel which AC1 takes most of it's story and philosophical threads from.
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>>41736135
>It seems that the Templars' Father of Understanding wasn't a person but a title, a role or office. It seems to have originated in a (Sage?) leader who interpreted the ancients/Isu for the rest of the order.
The most likely candidate is Cain, who started the movement that eventually becomes the Templar order in the Crusades.
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>>41745305
>It's Cain
>first assassin
God damn it I fucking hope not.

https://youtu.be/sOS9RK0JOPg
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>>41738510
More the last one than any of the others, but yeah.
>>41738784
Yes, I'm firmly aware you guys were all told they were super duper evil and that there's never been anyone more eviler ever in the history of anything, but they weren't actually all only evil overlords that murdered everything and got everyone high. Besides, the last one isn't exactly a bad thing.
>connection to the game
It was explored heavily. You even reference the bees yourself. If you don't know how that connects back to any parties in question here, I'm not going to help you.
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Sad state of affairs when a video game generates this many posts.
Between pointless larps and trash like this paranormal discussion is effectively dead on the board.
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>>41746179
ive never really head they were any worse than the other civs of the time and if anything they were better than average.
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>>41746737
That's the whole point I'm making. Although I assure you that people try to make them seem evil, namely the Romans, who normalfags love to listen to. It's the reason normalfags always say the Phoenicians were evil (who it seems the Scythians are derived from) - they were in reality the real "Vampires". They were also the Druids and Priest-Kings.
Isn't it completely fucking bananas to try and murder (after exploiting, of course) all of the old Priest-King remnants after their ancestors rescued the residual humans and taught them how to rebuild civilization after the last cataclysm? Isn't that the type of thing a civilization suffering a Sundowning would enact in some insane suicide?
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>>41746314
Anon, they boast in public about how they send people here that they pay money in an effort to shit up our board. The game has changed. This isn't the comfy hang out spot for you to schizo with da boys. This is now a warzone. Sure, we can still have fun chatting with each other, but you stand in a battlefield.
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>>41746789
lol, romans. those cocksuckers seethed like jews over the slightest thing. they defined the assmad Italian steroetype forever.
>>41746808
yep, nowhere is safe till they get toppled and sent to hell.
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>>41745245
Alamut is a novel that isn't exactly esoteric or historically accurate, the motto from here >>41741243 is more Discordian than anything.

>>41746314
>Thinks media and videogames cannot be Paranormal.
The occult & esoteric permeates everything, even the banal.

>>41746789
>It's the reason normalfags always say the Phoenicians were evil.
>Doesn't mention how the Phoenicians worshipped Moloch.
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>>41747388
>>Doesn't mention how the Phoenicians worshipped Moloch.
Great. This is precisely the problematic rhetoric in question. All of the "jews" have convinced you that they're from the Phoenicians and then gave you a poison pill on the Phoenicains. It's just like what they did with your precious "Jesus" (that wasn't his name) - they told you he was jewish and then they made a whole religion around hating the guy. How do you keep falling for this shit? Shouldn't it be more obvious that what they keep trying to force feed you is dumb?
The reality is those guys who painted Dragons on shit, who were described as having "many colors" (and beards, you'll note), were the forefathers of what you now know to call "Aryan" (though, naturally, you incorrectly use the designation commonly). The Scythian princes spread far and wide, hence the epithet "Pollinators" (there are other easter eggs too, but why would I spoil all the fun?). This notion they were all evil because of references to "Lord" or the guy that's leading all of them (check out Odin's orgin story sometime, sort of similar a la "All Father"). You're told "they sacrificed babies to Molech!" and that's totally true. What they don't tell you is that the babies didn't make it during pregnancy because they took so many drugs (that was sort of their thing - doing, trading and talking about drugs; check out Galen for more) and that their passing was honored in cremation. Sometimes they consumed the fetus too (which later inspired cargo cults, hence references to satanic baby eaters today, who completely lost the plot and who you're rightfully upset about), which became a modern practice in several notable ways. Loads of times, it wasn't about actually getting pregnant though. It was usually about doing drugs contained within the sexual (and additional) fluids.
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Assassin Creed is likely the story of the people that attempted to band together to fight the 10 tribes after the Millennium of the tribe of Judah ended(The Europeans and European nobility - Lion of Judah) - Zerah line.
Which is why you hear of and see fantasical architecture and talks of Aetheric energy and Tartaria in the past. Judahs age was over roughly 1000AD and it was time for the Reapers to appear. The 10 tribes Millennium. >>41733677 Just start looking at the heraldry
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>>41673519
Well there really was an Ismaili Order of Assassins headed bu Hassan Ibn Sabbah. And there really was a bunch of Catholic Knights called Templars. And they really did fight and kill each other. It was called The Crusades.
As for alien artifacts that's anybody's guess.
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>>41747937
>Another wall of rambling text.
>Doesn't mention how They and the Phoenicians both descended from the Canaanites and are actually the same people.

>>41748052
>Thinks Jesus and the 12 Tribes were literal.
Anyone can write a book.
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>>41746179
>Yes, I'm firmly aware you guys were all told they were super duper evil
I've never called them evil nor do I think they are, despite all the practices it seems you've been sent here to minimize, such as pineal gland harvesting or the refinement of honey/adrenochrome. That's the kicker here, some of us are perfectly capable of philosophizing about the elite and their misuse of "Isu" methods to further their own anti-Isu regime. It's the same thing our beloved renegade druidic priestess Twyman wrote in De Vere's book, which you keep trying to pull us back to. Just because they monopolized the IRL apples of eden does not mean the apples' original owners won't take offense when they see a two-bit Eden NWO made for anyone less than they.
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>>41749101
You're still doing it wrong. You have this all backwards. The complicated cargo cult practices you reference are all happening now. You have this all backwards. That's what de Vere said in the fucking book, dude. Apparently you're not allowed to philosophize about it.
Oh and calling her a "druidic priestess" is annoying as shit. Some of us actually are apart of the party in question. She just wore a badge.
>you've been sent here to minimize
What a bitter little bitch you are. I'm not here defending anything. I'm drawing an obvious contrast that's very important to better conceptualize the dynamic properly, you jackass. You even mention the perfect example to display exactly what I'm talking about as if you don't know any better. Yet you have the gall to frame my attempts as nefarious? You read the fucking book, you retard. You know exactly what I'm doing. Go fuck yourself.
This post reads like an obvious rage bait post designed to get me to keep your thread bumped. You knew exactly what was going on the whole time. Is that why you keep trying to reframe my posts, exactly like you're doing here?
>you keep trying to pull us back to
One of you literally asked me a question about it, you stupid nigger.
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>>41748814
>>Doesn't mention how They and the Phoenicians both descended from the Canaanites and are actually the same people.
And you quite literally only think that's an issue because you've been mindfucked by your current captors (whom you used to be captor of), who have psyoped you into thinking your forefathers were all evil, baby-raping-murdering demons.
You have no idea how to properly frame any of this. This thread is perfect evidence of that - you're lost and hopelessly. You couldn't be assed to figure out which fucking player is on which team and, apparently, when anyone comes along to attempt to help you, you'd rather run interference, call them all sorts of petty designations and then, at the end, seemingly, you reveal that you were fundamentally aware of their position and a proper direction to take the discussion in, but, strangely, never manage to achieve any real direction.
Your thread was absolute dog shit without me. I kept it alive, elucidated all sorts of points you'd clearly never think to connect and it would have died without me coming back to save it multiple times, while you desperately self-bumped each time I'd take a pause to let you tread water.
What reprehensible behavior.
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>>41749200
>This post reads like an obvious rage bait post designed to get me to keep your thread bumped.
The Anon who you're talking to is not OP.
(Because that would be me lol).
And you're the one reply baiting.

>Some of us actually are apart of the party in question.
That explains the shilling.

>>41749213
>(whom you used to be captor of)
Lolwut?

>Your thread was absolute dog shit without me.
Your incoherent word salads are dog shit.
Learn to say much in less.
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Let's try this instead, a bit of a historical take on the breakdown of Consciousness:
At one time, we once had sprawling cities with technology that didn't exactly rival our own, but was sort of familiar of it. We didn't have sophisticated infrastructure, as it took effect of deprecated technologies we no longer have access to and "instant messaging" wasn't the product of a digital notification along with its accompanying message, it was more an ability people had.
Moving forward, the breakdown over time caused erratic behaviors and as we saw a breakdown occur, we saw budding emergence of consensus, a very valuable tool to maintain collective sanity. This was around the time the ancient practices came into question. As we know from other sources, those responsible for maintaining the interface between this side of humanity and the others were tasked with calming everyone and ordering the. This went well enough for a while, but the breakdown furthered erosion of trust and gave way to "madness" which manifests in paranoia for one example. This paranoia led to a mortifying response to those in charge, who had to sort of scramble to protect themselves from the retarded masses (sound familiar?). It was around this time that the organ harvesting and skewed rituals began to take place. After they began killing the Oracles and Priest-Kings, it was evident they'd lost touch and wanted to rediscover or require the access to Source they'd lost. They found similar experiences (see Eleusis and "Mysteries" to explain the public practice that began) in consuming the organs at first and later were able to derive a similar experience in combining plant matter, but nothing was ever like the real thing, just like today.
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>>41749255
After this spiraled out for a while and everyone lost the last of their marbles, enclaves began to form to conserve what we were able. Everyone was essentially zombies by this point (just like today - yay!), but they did their best to help recover what they were able. Ever since, we've been suffering the breakdown's aftermath and now that the retarded bastard-child usurpers are in charge, we have to find careful ways to tow this line as we find the careful balance to restore here.
You have the audacity to run around an fling your ignorance at people, challenging those who would dare help you, often murdering the people you don't know are throwing you bones. You're lost and massively. Helping you avoid drownings, making this worse, often only leads to those of us assisting you suffering alongside you. If you can't figure out how to swim, you're impossible to help.
Stop trying to drag us down with you. You're only making this worse. Let's do what we can to restore the balance together. Stop trying to call everything you don't understand evil - that's how we get to you normalfags trying to murder your way out of all your stupid ass problems.
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>>41749229
Look, I know you're either a bot or trolling at this point, but my only real permissable activit at this point is doing whatever "assisting you" is supposed to mean. I know you'd prefer I hold your hand and pet your hair while you fall asleep with your head in my lap like a toddler, but that's not happening.
>I'm not OP
It doesn't mean it's not "your thread".
>you're the one reply baiting
That's distinctly untrue. You've read the books I'm referencing here, pretending to have not read them (or aren't understanding their contents, I don't know which one is worse) and are running interferendce for the secret-keeping parties who would prefer to compartmentalize the information so you don't see it or burn the books. Someone who read the books and knows why people have been fucking murdered over this wouldn't be so egregiously retarded, like you're LARPing as currently.
>you're shilling
You have the exact opposite idea of what I mean. Some parties weren't exactly thrilled to see Twyman call herself a "Dragon". Hell, there's not exactly any left (though there may be a surprise or two out there yet).
>doesn't know he used to be "Amalek"
I'm making some assumptions here, yeah. Frankly, you were more likely one of the additional slaves (they had blonde slaves too, you know), but, yes, the people you enjoy calling "jews" now (you know, the ones you're worried about when considering the Phoenicians or Canaanites, who were white people) used to be our slaves. That's why they freak the fuck out about the Amalek and practice Loxism, but you wouldn't know that because you're (purposefully) retarded and can't actually participate in earnest.
>word salads
If you don't understand them, how do you know I'm le bad guy doing le bad stuff and "shilling"? You don't understand what I'm saying, it's not that you're confident I'm some shill or bad guy. You already know I'm not a bot - they wouldn't allow bots to talk about this. So what's your excuse now?
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>>41749256
>More text slop.
Take picrel's advice.


>>41749272
>You've read the books I'm referencing here, pretending to have not read them.
Actually no (If you are referring to the Twynman and Jesuit slop), but again, anyone can write a book and put anything they want in it's pages so it doesn't mean anything.

>Believes the Biblical larp.
Anyone can be called amalek as it convenes them, it doesn't mean anything and it's all manmade bullcrap made to justify their actions.
(Biblical texts were written by men, not divinity).

>considering the Phoenicians or Canaanites, who were white people.
Lmao no.

>If you don't understand them, how do you know I'm le bad guy doing le bad stuff and "shilling"?
Because shills like you never change your script and spout the same buzzword bullcrap in every thread where the discussion gets good.
>IT'S LE JESUITS!
>MUH TARTARIA!
>MUH (insert Biblical larp name here)!
It's all so tiresome...

>calls me a retard
>text is full of profanities
Profanities are for the Profane and it says a lot about your mental state.

>You already know I'm not a bot
>Press x to doubt
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>>41749457
What are you even doing here? You have nothing to offer this thread. You have no idea what I'm talking about or why it's dramatically important to the subject at hand.
Hell, I was the one, apparently, informing you that the Assassin's Creed gameloop is literally the process of Initiation, you stupid nigger.
You're uninformed. You don't know why either party was murdered or why a bot wouldn't be allowed to say any of these words. You're plaguing this board. Go away.
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>>41749200
>Some of us actually are apart of the party in question.
Whoomp there it is.

>>41749229
Laughing my fucking ass off, he's replying to at least 3 different people now with his beatstick. He's correct in these last few posts but we had to pry that honesty about organ harvesting out of him, and now he gives us the trademark antediluvian boo-fucking-hoos about what was lost... yet continues to obscure and derail a thread full of his own lost brethren forming wise insights for the "warzone." I wonder why that is? I would think someone with that background would be, at the very least, entertained by us post-Flood peasants contemplating things most humans don't ever consider. I think the insights ITT have been quite fascinating and I think most of them have come from random posters lol.
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>>41749699
>NOOO DON'T QUESTION MY MISDIRECTION AND SHILLING!!!
If you were actually speaking anything of value then more shills (like you) would've shown up to further derail the thread or the thread would've been pruned/deleted by jannies in the first 5 minutes.

>the Assassin's Creed gameloop is literally the process of Initiation.
All forms of media are an unconscious initiation and a "proportioned teaching" for the masses, if that's your point then you're telling nothing new.
>picrel

>You don't know why either party was murdered.
That "murder" story just seems like a grift to sell more books lmao, can you actually confirm any of it with proof?

>What are you even doing here?
Having fun :D

>You're plaguing this board.
Projection.

>keeps seething with insults and profanity because he has no counter arguments
You are pathetic.
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>>41751624
>If you were actually speaking anything of value then more shills (like you) would've shown up to further derail the thread or the thread would've been pruned/deleted by jannies in the first 5 minutes.
What a desperate bid.
>w-well no one tried to stop us so nothing you said was that cool
How fucking desperate. I'm pathetic?
>>41751570
>we had to pry that honesty about organ harvesting out of him
I never fucking said no one is harvesting organs. I've been talking about a "cargo cult" the whole damn thread.
>about what was lost
Oh, you know, just collective human sanity and the means to interface with "God". No big deal, right, everyone? We totally won't need that moving forward, as we run the gauntlet of extrasolar activity (again).
What a witless nigger you are.
>obscure and derail
No, I'm probably the only person in the whole damn world who would consider having this conversation in public, you asshole. What's your fucking problem?
>from random posters
You're welcome.
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>>41751930
>What a desperate bid.
Not a counter argument + lurk moar.
There's a reason why the "SHUT IT DOWN" meme exists.

>I'm pathetic?
Yes.

>You're welcome.
He's not talking about you roflmao.
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>m-maybe he'll just leave if we pretend his posts suck
And maybe your wanting strategies will help you next year, losers.
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>>41752077
>losers.
Projection + picrel.

And who said anything about getting you to leave? Clowning shills like you is pretty funny.



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