How do you know your religion is the correct one?Here's how I know Buddhism is correct: Buddhism is the only religion (literally the ONLY one) that is interested in the complete cessation of suffering of all sentient beings. All of them. Yes, even "those" ones (you know who I'm talking about).Take demons for example. Sentient beings whose whole entire thing is that they hate hate HATE with a capital H every human both dead and alive. What does every other religion believe about demons? That they are evil and should be ruthlessly punished for it, coercively dominated, exorcised, commanded, rebuked. What do Buddhists believe about demons? That they are evil and should be shown mercy and kindness and taught the Dhamma so that they too might repent of their evil ways and attain an end of suffering. That's how I know Buddhism is the real one. I bet it never even OCCURRED to most of you that a demon ought to be shown the same mercy and kindness you would show to your fellow human.
so your subjective feelin
>>41682641Buddhism and stoicism has helped me overcome some mental pain. Buddhism is not fully correct but the Buddha's words has helped people in hell(current Earth is hell.) I have considered myself as a bodhisattva and still think that title is something to strive for. Also, God is real and Buddhism overlooks that. There's a lot wrong with every religion. Take the snippets of truth that these dogshit religions provide and leave the rest.
eh no
>>41682641It achieves the complete cessation of suffering by achieving the complete cessation of consciousness, though before that you must first realize the complete cessation of all will to live. It's ancient dogshit
>>41682737~108 IQ take
>>41682641>the complete cessation of suffering of all sentient beingsOnly possible in heaven, not here.
>>41682850SkillIssue;)
>>41682787So post a counterargument then
>>41682850Does your religion actually believe that complete cessation of suffering is possible for all sentient beings? As far as I know Buddhism is the only religion that makes this claim -- that CAN make this claim.Or is your religion one of the ones where it's only possible for humans (and even then only some humans) to go to Heaven?
>>41682876103 IQ
>>41682641demons gave me a dmt hit twice actually to prevent me from being super retarded so they care about something at least
>>41682907>I have no counterargument so I'll just call you dumbWe can all see through this, you just look weak and unable to properly defend your cult
>>41682909That's neat but I'm gonna say if a demon gives you a chemical you should probably Just Say No, that's not even religious advice that's just plain ol' common sense
>>41682641suck the lama's tongue, anon.
>>4168291098 IQ
>>41682641There's no such thing as a "correct" religion. Religion is just the clothing they put on spirituality. Religious narratives are primarily for control
>>41682893Buddhism sees absolutely everything as intolerable suffering, that's why it's so perfect that the myth is that it's founder was a spoiled palace kid
>>41682934you sure? aliens sure bring up Jesus Christ a lot
>>41682876Here's a counterargument, cessation doesn't mean it's gone forever
>>41682941Yes. Jesus was a spiritual teacher, not a religion/religious teacher. Christianity as a religion became a thing after he died.
>>41682641I think christianity and mahayana buddhism are somewhat flawed with their unbridled compassion model. As you need allah's guidance to give that compassion to the correct recipient. Allah is rahman and rahim, so he can very much determine who is deserving of what boon.
>>41682957That's more of a cope than a counterargumentIn buddhism, you don't return from nirvana, hence the need for boddhisattvas to not fully complete the path until all other beings are "saved"
>>41682941What kind of things do they say about him? Also have you taken your meds today?
>>41682959nice cope. buddhism is a pleasantly neutered religion/philosophy, pretty ingenious for bridling cattle I must admit
>>41682967How is that cope? I think your issue is more so on the question of free will vs. determinismI cease karmas and unlock more free will as I go. And it's no easy task
>>41682992>unlock more free willlol
>>41682994If you don't control your cravings, your cravings control you, which means you don't actually have free will if you aren't following the eightfold pathYou're just pretending that free will is something you have by default, and not something you have to cultivate; THAT my friend is the real cope, that is your ego talking
>>41683009your will is controlled by more than just bodily cravings and cannot be truly tempered with meditation or philosophy. it's a eunuch religion, no wonder aliens don't bother with it. it would be funny if turned out daoism was the right one, or at least closest to it
>>41683009Sounds more in line with stoicisim or self-help philosophy than the absolute transcendence seeking religion that buddhism is but if it helps you that's cool
>>41683023What do you define as will?
>>41683025No anon that's literally what Buddhism teaches
>>41682925Lolit keeps going down
>>41682641Abrahamist desert fags will seethe at this.
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>>41682919no i mean like just straight up zapping my brain from the astral
>>41682893All enspirited beings return to Heaven after their character-imbuing trials on Earth.
>>41682641https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes%201&version=NKJV
>>41682641Buddhism has a lot of good ideas but ultimately is anti-life and is used by california girls to ego affirm themselves that they are happy when in reality they are not.Also even Buddha himself said that if you do not have the means to pacify and teach somebody the way to kill them if lives are at stake.
>>41683263What a dogshit post you have made
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>>41683285Just wanted you to know.
>>41683277>>41683296If you wanna hang with us but can never think of a proper reply with an actual counterargument, consider ignoring your first instict to respond with a weak comeback and try listening. Most of us have been studying this spiritual shit for many years
>>41683352I do not care to argue with you today brother. I simply wanted you to know that your post is bad.
>>41682641All religion is bullshit. Defend yourself.
The more I posts I read here from Buddhism shills, the dumber it seems.
>>41683263>noo muh liferino!Life is shit, fuck life
>>41682641God told me so personally, out loud, with witnesses.
>>41684009Exorcising demons just sends them back to Hell where they incubate and get swole and come back as even stronger more demon-y demonsTeaching them the Dharma is the only way you actually get rid of them
>>41683124You noticed :)112 IQ
>>41684333I check'd
>>41683296>>41683386And why you are telling me that?
>>41684135How exactly? its super peaceful and chill
>>41684350>MaBaTha / ethnic cleansing>Bodu Bala Sena / anti-muslim violence>Zen used as a military asset / kamikaze>...goes back to Sohei roots
>>41684345Both pro-life and pro-killing are popular stances, and you basically espouse both in your post. despite their popularity both are retarded and wrong, each for various reasons. not to mention contradictory. accounting for their popularity i figure you may have never gotten substantial pushback on these retarded and wrong ideas, being surrounded by a world of yes men, so i took it upon myself to do that. this is not the only reason why i am telling you that your post sucks or even the only reason why it sucks, thoughbeit
>>41684367Yeah okay, and? people using peaceful and compassionate ideologies to further their own violent and selfish goals happens all the time especially with christianity, a religion with very peaceful and chill roots (jesus was super peaceful and chill).
Imagine God being like "yeah I think I have to play with sentient beings."just make the Sims bro.I'm God. I'm my own Solipsistic reality.There's no way to create new conscious apertures. The field of vision is absolute.
Imagine God being like "yeah I think I have to play with sentient beings."just make the Sims bro.I'm God. I'm my own Solipsistic reality.There's no way to create new conscious apertures. The subjective conscious field is absolute.
>>41684444>have to spam to get quadsnullified, get out of here
>>41684456I was correcting my post.
>>41684350The metaphysics are way off.
>>41684386>Jesus was super peaceful and chillmeanwhile in Matthew 10:34–36>Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; >I have not come to bring peace, but a sword… >a man against his father, >and a daughter against her mother…Wasn't it not long before this Jesus said>Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead.And let's not forget Luke 14:26.Out of curiosity, do you think Buddhist doctrines are more chill?
>>41684488Fair enough, but is there anyone who gets metaphysics right anyway?
>>41684502Vedanta, Christian Mysticism, Taoism, Neoplatonism.Buddhism is only decent on the exoteric ethical front, where it overlaps with the other wisdom traditions.
>>41684494First of all, the amount of translation and interpretations that got the words jesus actually spoke to the words we read today is very significant. do you know a single word of aramaic, or even hebrew or latin for that matter? then, more importantly; Do you really think jesus meant he literally wanted to bring swords onto the earth, man? clearly its a metaphor or analogy, however retardedly conveyed. same for 14:26. the subtext being that in order to truly be peaceful and love the world, you must give up your attachments to family and your own self, which is basically what buddha said that monastics should strive towards too. >do you think Buddhist doctrines are more chill?Yes, but buddha and jesus themselfs as people weren't more or less chill than each other, because once you realize violence is useless, you don't do any more of it so no one can be more or less violent at that point. 0=0 . the actual doctrine itself, yes i think buddhist one is more chill/nonviolent but thats only because the culture that it sprang out of was more nonviolent, meanwhile jesus was literally killed by his own home culture, which is another reason why he had to speak so much in parables, to avoid upsetting the pro-violent establishment.>>41684527Fair enough :D
>>41682641Showing mercy and kindness to demons is the same kind of white liberal female mentality that lets in monsters who rob, rape and murder them.
>>41684546I'm a linguist by profession so I have some advantage there. I mostly work with Greek manuscripts, but I have some familiarity with Hebrew as well. Mostly I know about the things all languages have in common and how they change over time, that sort of stuff, as well as computational nlp sort of stuff. Still, I apply what I can to my personal spiritual research.>Do you really think jesus meant he literally wanted to bring swords onto the earth, man?Either He was God like Christians believe and he knew the holy wars were coming as a consequence of his actions, or he was speaking figuratively and people just misunderstood him.> as people weren't more or less chillI was mostly curious about how you would compare the content of the scriptures/doctrine.The Buddha leaves:>his wife,>his infant son,>his royal duties,without explanation or return for years.Zend tradition says>If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him.Satipaṭṭhāna Sutta instructs Monks to contemplate:>bloated corpses,>rotting flesh,>bones turning to dust,as reflections on their own bodies.
>>41682641I need you to take a deep breath and try to relax. It’s hard, isn’t it? Your body is tense, and there’s this high-pitched sound that vibrates through your entire being, right? Don’t worry—that’s normal.If your whole thing is ignoring that every single thing in this world is shit and that you have no control, sure, it’s normal. You can’t run away from it, you can’t think your way out. There is nothing out there or in here that you can replace the feeling you’re trying to imagine away.Okay, breathe once more. Do you feel it? You fucking want to cry, don’t you? Waaah, waaah—me, me, why am I special? Waaah, if only I could be a master too, waaah.Now listen up. You have this one go-around. The odds of you existing—given the quadrillion events that had to happen for you to exist—are effectively zero.So use your fucking time in this third dimension on things that you actually want. Just do it. Everything will change for you. The world is filled with people who want to see and hear who you actually are.
>>41684527The forced austerity of teachers (lessens guru bullshit) and emphasis on lots of pure meditation is ideally the best part of buddhism. Their meditation method WAS legit - samatha meditation (the original buddhist meditation, still practiced in thailand primarily) is basically just patanjalis raja yoga and is how so many buddhists end up getting psychic powers. Unfortunately buddhism has done everything in its power to get away from this most effective style of meditation (since having psychic powers doesn't tend to contribute to you wanting to spiritually off yourself aka the goal of buddhism). So theravada has begun to focus on 'dry insight' meditation styles (except originally insight/vipassana is supposed to occur naturally during deep stages of samatha) while mahayana has the zen 'just sit and do nothing and you'll spontaneously become enlightened' meditation style or the 'nianfo' devotional pure land chanting seeking rebirth in some special astral buddhaland before you become enlightened or the way overcomplicated meditation techniques of tantric buddhism.. they fucked up what should be a good thing. OP if you need a good buddhist book tho check out 'mastering the core teachings of the buddha' the author is an actual buddhist unlike me, will even warn you about wanting psychic powers
>>41684579>I'm a linguist by profession so I have some advantage thereNice. so you know first hand how retarded and situational that language and translations can be. >he was speaking figuratively and people just misunderstood him.Yeah, its this.>how you would compare the content of the scriptures/doctrineFor one thing, and you will appreciate this as a linguist, I can personally speak (through learning it) the exact words in the exact intonation that buddha spoke 2600 years ago in his native language pali. and im just some guy. meanwhile you'll be hard pressed to meet someone (well maybe not you, but the average person would be) who knows a lick of latin or hebrew, much less a word in jesus's native toungue of aramahic. what i mean by this is that the buddhist doctrine is way more pure and complete, and in that way i would say it is better than the christian one. but both fundamentally call for the same things, namely peace, calm, compassion, empathy, nonviolence, etc.>The Buddha leaves: his wife, etcYes, and that is literally the extent of the violence he ever commits. and the buddhist explanation, which i find very compelling personally, is that he does this because he felt that if he could find a way to cease suffering forever (through nibbana or whatever) that would be more helpful than anything he could do as a prince or a king for his son. and it was; his wife and son both become monks.>Zend tradition saysZen tradition is full of nonsense bullshit like this. its metaphor. a buddha that can be conceived of (I.E. killed) is not a buddha because nibanna is a state of nonconception. its funny and not really literal.>Satipaṭṭhāna Sutta instructs Monks to contemplate:And this is awesome and useful, and not violent at all. it never says to make the corpses yourself, just to contemplate them. personally this teaching is beautiful to me, because, as a westerner, our culture does everything it can to hide corpses, dress up our dead for funerals, etc.
>>41684619This anon knows
>>41684630>the buddhist doctrine is way more pure and completePerhaps. It did spend a lot longer as oral tradition than Christianity. The first written works were the later teachings if I'm not mistaken, after being adjusted for reaching specific people when teaching. I think that's part of what allowed Buddhism to grow like it did, but it also lead to its theological divides. For that reason the exact intonation buddha spoke 2600 years ago is relatively easy to discern, but his intention less so.I have no comments on anything else you said, but I did appreciate it. Thank you for sharing your perspective.
>>41682641invented by greeks between first century bc and ad
>>41684640Cheers bro
>>41682737>It achieves the complete cessation of suffering by achieving the complete cessation of consciousnessSad that in the entire thread this was the only post that even attempted to answer OP's question.The "right" religion is the one that - in that time, place, and circumstance - is most effective at raising the most people up to a greater chance at developing spirituality.Religion is like diet and exercise - there are legit and fad ones, but that doesn't mean everyone will fit in a single legit one, nor does it mean there can't be more than one healthy diet, nor does it even mean that everyone needs one.
>>41682641Yeah well, tough luck bud, I am not converting.
>>41682641I pretty much agree. Basically every religion and form of spirituality on earth has the following two traits: 1) they justify and rationalize suffering as if it's actually a good thing, and 2) they are obsessed with getting you to feel guilty about your existence, and even if you haven't done anything majorly wrong they'll just scream "muh original sin" or something equivalent. Buddhism seems to be one of the only ones that doesn't fit that mold, which lends it more credibility IMO
>>41682641The objective observation of what the afterlife/forever life is found in out of body and near death experiences, hypnotic regression and via psychics and medium. It appears to be an never ending cycle of rebirths so that the soul can learn and evolve. To what end is unclear and one therefore has to conclude that the Buddha was correct. Funnily enough christians and similar with hard set beliefs appears to the ones who suffer more as they struggle with adjusting to the reality of the other side.Dukkha is also more appropriately translated as dissatisfaction, which suffering is a more severe form of.
While I agree on the problem, there is no solution.
>>41682641Not telling you on this farm
>>41682641i don't, i'm not sure if i have a religionreligions all seemed like some kind of human technology, a structure with a purposethat it really didn't matter what your religion was if the output was good for you and those around you
buddhism is just so fulltime meditators can get free food every morning
>>41682641My religion is the only religion that allows me to gear up in weapons and pvp against supernatural horrors. Must be true, since the horrors keep a-coming
I don't. There are only vague truths that I have discovered or have been communicated to me, and those truths may or may not be included in religion.
>>41684303No. Loving a demon just gets them close enough to murder you. End of story.You are human. You do not change demons. You can only eliminate them.Defend yourself or die. Those are your options. What happens in heaven and hell is not of your grasp.
kindness and understanding doesn't fix everythinga repeat offender will just do the same thing after he leaves jaila narcissist will keep being psychopathic no matter how much theraphy it receivesa wild animal can still kill you even if you raised it as a babythe best way to protect yourself from such thing is leaving their environmentspushing yourself to help people/entiters can drag you down with them according to karmawhich is why I think gnosticism or daoism is more valid
>>41682641No religion is correctThis is a paranormal board. Not a religion boardWeird how you assumed ppl here are all religious
I am not a Buddhist, but I believe demons should be treated equally as all others who are not yet awakened to the path of the Creator."Demons" are "low vibration" entities. They have become separated, in mind, from the path of the Creator. But there is no true separation. The closer one aligns to the path of the Creator, the more one "vibrates." The further away one is, the less one vibrates.Buddhism, the little that I know about it, I can assure is not the only path to enlightenment. No special knowledge, language, terms, techniques, e.t.c, e.t.c, is needed other than a committed, willing mind and a deconstructed belief system to observe the world anew. The most important aspect of becoming enlightened is that one must be ready.Religion--any organized system--must be set aside, eventually. One must take one's path alone. Further, the depth of experiences are not readily able to be shared with another who is not similarly awakened.My family became friends with a Buddhist whom we met on a park bench. She lives outside, when able, near monasteries, with her belongings in bags. She is strong and committed, very intelligent. She referred me to some Tibetan Buddhist videos but they did not resonate with me. I have a great respect for her and her path, as I know in another life I might choose the same. In this life, however, my calling is to interact more fully with human society and change its nature.
You wanna talk about compassion?I hope everyone just gets the corona and dies, admit it its the most compassionate way for us all to go away from this place, straight to allah swtIf you cant see that youre just not that kind
>>41685756I'm a demon, as such I guarantee there's a billion reasons you will regret your hefty talk
>>41685675>pplGo fuck yourself, faggot
You either destroy the demons or the demons destroy you. This is the law of the universe. All religions, every single one of them, serve only the purpose of distracting you from this fact. It is a hand over your mouth while a knife goes in your back. God gave you the tools to fight, not sit back like a vegetable and take it.
>>41682699But how do you know that God is real?
>>41682641The more I think about it, the more I think someone came here to this Earth and gave us civilization and it's not around anymore. Now it is up to us. Maybe God doesn't exist as we were lead to believe.. This one who gave us civilization may be God, but where is God now? Why can God talk to us, right? I mean, when people really stop to think about this all religions start to look superstition. One day they may have had some sort of relevance, but today it is just an old system perpetuating itself. I think religion is so annoying. It's not like I'm an atheist, but religion is something which makes human beings not be able to evolve. Religion holds people in chains of superstition and its an old system which doesn't want to go away because it was one of the first systems and it is very powerful.
>>41682641>I know Buddishm is correct because:>Buddhism is the only religion interested in the complete cessation of suffering of all sentient beingsWhat is your logical explanation for your conclusion that this makes Buddhism 'correct'? What does correct even mean? Truth? So Buddhism is true because of what it seeks? Why?
>>41682641You clearly are stupid. Considering Buddhist hell is a thing and is incredibly brutal.
The only way to achieve total cessation of suffering is by beating the world into submission and forcing everyone to get along. This is why the Left Hand path is the only way forward.
>How do you know your religion is the correct one?I just do.>but how do you KNO--Motherfucker did I stutter?
>>41686122forgot my pic LulzProbably the last time I'm ever going to post on 4chan, because the new captcha system is just... just awful. I'll leave this gem of wisdom though: Hang Martin Luther's portrait in a prominent place in your home, and that home will be blessed, and no demon will dare disturb you. Then you won't even have to worry about mantras or exorcisms or any other hocus pocus.
>>41686124Hocus my mantric balls, fag.
Redpill time, the only "correct" religion is the one your parents/grandparents taught you. Everything else is cope.
>>41682641Buddhism is a path laid out to go far enough until one realizes there is no reason to continue. From there, Buddhism becomes merely a navigational map: not to run, but to know where one is and then sit down.
Buddhism he like>my tree has a broken branch>better chop the whole thing down
>Muslim beheads your daughter>Jew rapes and sells the bodyYou:>the only way to defeat these demons is to love themGood luck you fucking moronic insects
"Always without desire we must be found,If its deep mystery we would sound;But if desire always within us be,Its outer fringe is all that we shall see."https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/T%C3%A2o_Teh_King
>>41682641Most religions have good things to them, just as they have bad things to them. Personally, if I was religious, I'd probably be a follower of the Baha'i faith, because that's the one that teaches about the positives the world can take from all the world's religions, meaning that none of them is the "right" one.
>>41682641>Here's how I know Buddhism is correct: Buddhism is the only religion (literally the ONLY one) that is interested in the complete cessation of suffering of all sentient beings.That's how you know Buddhism is wrong. You can't end all suffering, it's a futile undertaking.
>>41686737>>41686737skill issueIf Buddhism wasn't true people wouldn't be so obsessed with deboonking it
>>41686737"The Truth of Suffering: Life inherently involves suffering (Dukkha).The Cause of Suffering: Suffering arises from craving, attachment, and ignorance (desire for things to be permanent).The Cessation of Suffering: Suffering can end (Nirvana) by letting go of craving.The Path to Cessation: The Noble Eightfold Path is the practical guide to ending suffering. "
>>41686462OP is probably either extremely new to Buddhist or just a hippy larper, there's literally a whole long-ass exorcism prayer that every monk and nun is supposed to have memorized.
>>41686801Yeah and the actual words of the exorcism prayer is teaching the demon dhamma I.e. kindness and empathy
>>41686801YOU DON'T SAY. PEOPLE WHO TALK ABOUT FALSE FAITHS AND ASK QUESTIONS TO TRY AND LEGITIMIZE THOSE FALSE FAITHS ARE FULL OF SHIT? THAT CAN'T BE!
>>41686834Yes but the explicitly stated intent is also that bad things will happen to the evil spirit if they continue to fuck with you. The idea that Buddhism is all sunshine and roses is mostly just Tibetan P.R. fluff, it's as stern and martial as any other religion that has withstood centuries of oppression.>>41686838okay, what weird foreskin cult are you acting as ambassador for this morning?
>>41686862Yeah bad things will happen but its a warning and not a promise that the monk themself, or, like, god, will do the bad things to them. it is of a very different character than you mare making it out to be but you know that already> foreskin cult are you acting as ambassador for this morningKek
>>41686930>Yeah bad things will happen but its a warning Yes.>not a promise that the monk themself, or, like, god, will do the bad things to them.I never said that.> it is of a very different character than you mare making it out to beNo, you're writing fanfiction about what you think I'm thinking, instead of reading the words I am actually typing.
>>41686775Intelligence issue. Animals will continue to suffer were mankind to miraculously all achieve enlightenment.
>>41686959I'm considering the thread theme of most people thinking of exorcisms (usually in a western christian context) as being an attack, for the purpose of banishing or even an intent to cause pain or destruction to the demon. meanwhile an actual buddhist exorcism is primarily to teach the demon how to act righteously, and secondarily a warning as to the fruits of their actions if they continue to act demonically. here is but one example of this being the case in actual buddhist scriptures: https://suttacentral.net/snp1.10/en/sujato?lang=en&layout=sidebyside&reference=none¬es=asterisk&highlight=false&script=latindon't deny trying to characterize it as closer to the ideal of being an attack, through tactics as saying the explicit intent is that bad things will happen to the evil spirit or that buddhism "is stern and martial" and not sunshine and rainbows.
