I remember coming across the story on picrel and finding it creepy and very /x/ worthy(yes I realize this concept is not new, this is just a good example of it). Link to thread where the anon goes into more detail: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/38486538/#38486538What if we are already in Hell? What if this life of ours is an illusion to keep us from knowing the extremely dreadful truth of our situation? Why are we here? Is there anything we can do to escape?I personally am not on board fully with the 'this is Hell' view as I feel Hell would be WAY WAY WAY worse than this place(I think it is a demonic matrix tho), but I will say that me seeing 666s/616s all the time is certainly pointing towards this being Hell or somesuch.How do you feel about this take anons? Any similar experiences to share?Thanks in advance as always!
>>41690639reminds me of that book on NDEs with a similar story
>>41690639picrel is not full.yes. we are in hell as most if not all forgot how to behave in order to create a heaven which lasts for all eternities.eternity is newly defined as 1000 years. which is laughable.
>>41690639>From the highest planet in the material world down to the lowest, all are places of misery wherein repeated birth and death take place. But one who attains to My abode, O son of Kuntī, never takes birth again.It doesnt matter if you are Zeus on Olympus, a soul tortured on the lowest realm of Naraka, or any kind of life inbetweenIf you arent with God, you are in Hell.
>>41690794Ooooh OK this actually finally makes some sense out of all things
Selfbump
my best friend back in the day went on this trip after too much dxm. i wouldnt be surprised if this was his post, it sounds word for word the things he talked about when i asked him why he ended up in the mental ward for a few months.
>>41692787People get sent to mental wards for reporting things they saw. Make a mental note about that. These people are "dangerous" to the tranced normies.
>>41691426>>41691431Reach out and take control of your own mind. It's the only thing you have a little control over. Exercise and practice that control.
>>41692898Nigger, stop telling people what to do with their own minds you fucking fascist Nazi racist nigger-dalit!!
>>41692787I heard that and Benadryl really strips back the veil if overdosed on. Weird how eazy it is to get your hands on despite how potent it can be.
>>41690639Hell is the belief that we are bodies, separate from each other and our source. So in a way we are in hell because we’re living a lie. But we believe that lie to be the truth and defend it as if our life depends on it. And because we defend lies, truth becomes fearful; spiritual reality becomes fearful. The only way out of hell is to see it for what it is, and be willing to let go of it, or in other words, one must face the void and leap.
>>41693717Hope keeps us trapped in hell. “The next thing will make me fulfilled…” You can see it everywhere: desparate seeking. The next president you elect, the next book you read, the next meal, the next trip, the next girl, the next meditation. You can spend millions of lifetimes going round and round. Until you face the hopelessness that sits at the bottom of your heart, the cycle of suffering will continue
>>41693748So we need to be doomers?
Weird channel I found, maybe demons rubbing it in our faces.
not hell just a very primitive plane
>>41695107In a spiritual sense?
>>41694994Yes. Reality is cold, we aren't probably even really here, but the stimulus is keeping us trapped in here
>>41695333>333Zamn, le trips of trips. Well...welll...well...my doomerism is a trap too. Kinda hard to argue with those trips tho, :( I definitely think thus is like a dreammatrix or something, our bodies are in base reality...if we still have them.
>>41695227yes
>>41695371Why are in this place?
Hell right now is the aim of the fake narrative, i.e. matrix we are locked in. My best friend died recently. Broke up with a girl he had been with for 20 years and abandoned his paid off house. Had a job making six figures. Started blowing dudes and hanging out with raver bitches 20 years younger than he was in the biggest midlife crisis I've ever personally witnessed. Bought a hayabusa and ended himself in a battle with a horny buck at 150 mph. He was my best friend in the whole world. I watched him just "want more" his whole life. He lived in hell. True hell. He had a life any of you autists would have coveted. He was 6'4" and more "Aryan" than the larpiest larpers. Blonde hair. Green-blue eyes. 150+ IQ. hung. Rich. Cool. Literally a hero to hundreds of people. There was a giant memorial for him involving the community of an entire city. His girlfriend was 5 feet tall and was kind of a Belle delphine type all his friends absolutely felt a lot of jealousy around. He sneaked around behind her back doing cocaine and fucking girls for 20 years. In the end, he was having 3 ways with dudes and had a zoomer mullet. Very sad. Lived his whole life burning in his own mental hell. Nothing was ever enough.
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>>41696785Thanks for picrel, I saved it.
>>41690639I feel like if this was hell the experience would be closer to 100% bad. Right now the experience of life feels more like an even mix of good and bad. My theory is if this universe were ruled by an evil god then the majority of what’s in it and the experiences that are had within it would be bad.So in our universe which seems to be neutral I would expect it to either be unmanaged or for the manager to have a neutral morality.
>>41696440Suicide, fren. I felt the earth on Monday, it moved beneath my feet..
>>41697759>I feel like if this was hell the experience would be closer to 100% badTrue. I agree.
>>41695343Don’t listen to him. He’s partially correct but being a “doomer” will get you nowhere but places that hurt you. You are a bright wave of light, coursing through the universe toward an unknown destination. Society wants you to do drugs, be fat, and surrender to worldly pleasures because it’s much easier to control a depressed aspartame-huffing retard than someone who seeks truth. If you seek it truly, then you will find it.
>>41691426>>41691431I usually am 100% against it but this person should be locked up in an institution under heavy meds. They are an absolute danger to themselves and society.
>>41699075>stay in the pod neo, the system needs your energy
>>41699080>there are demons? keep your mouth shut goyim
>>41690639>>41690794Heaven and hell are not places, they are states of being and you can be in either one or in the middle. To experience life is to experience suffering, that is inevitable. What is important is how you see that suffering. If you see it as a punishment or torture then you will feel like being alive is a living hell. If you see suffering as a guide post to teach you what to pay attention to and to strive to make things better not just for yourself, but more importantly the world around you (the world, not just humans) then being alive feels like living in heaven.
>>41699114>If you see suffering as a guide post to teach you what to pay attention to and to strive to make things better not just for yourself, but more importantly the world around you (the world, not just humans) then being alive feels like living in heaven.No, it would feel like Purgatory/Bardo at best. Heaven is when you genuinely enjoy what you are experiencing. If you have to cope, even if the badness is nothing torturous, it is not Heaven.
>>41699137I don't want to be rude, but if that's your attitude, you have no clue what heaven feels like.
>>41699114>Heaven and hell are not places, they are states of beingRidiculous nonsense taught ad nauseam by clueless mystics.
>>41697785how many others here have miraculously survived several suicide attempts? I honestly feel inclined to believe this dude. bonus points if it was a reality breaking "miracle". have we become preta?
>>41699142>if that's your attitude, you have no clue what heaven feels likeYou are referring to yourself technically. Hell is a place and/or state of torture where it comes without effort and pleasure is vacant. Heaven is a place and/or state of bliss that is experienced without coping and no suffering is found. Earth is typically a mixture of both.
>>41699150I'm sorry the truth of reality is unpleasant for you. The myth of a heavenly afterlife is a cruel lie made to make you waste your true life in servitude.
>>41699190I missed the part where I gave any indication that I believe in a "Heaven". I don't. But I do think Hell(s) probably exist.
>>41697759>>41698752Unless what you view as "good" is merely a crafty illusion to provide contrast and more disappointment.
>>41699256Typically extremes have opposites. Heaven/s hopefully exist.
>>41699271But then you still would be feeling good. Hell gives you no breaks, that would be too good for you.
>>41699182>Earth is typically a mixture of both.nah, it's pretty much hell. anyone saying otherwise is either mason, or ignorant npc. basically either a person who took vaxx, or is advocating for you to take. If you don't see it, it's because you're either ignorant, or you choose to not see it (birthed into wealth, family is mason but didn't groom/initiate you into generational satanism).
>>41690639Don´t do drugs, ye fucking morons.
Anons, I need help. I have a really long and twisted sotry to tell. It would take me a good 30-45 mins to write it up. It's too long to post it here, I'd need to make a separate thread for it. Please help me. I am in deep pain.
>>41696647>hung>fucked dudesanon.. did you and him...
>>41699295If suffering was permanent, you'd get too used to it.
>>41699697What is the problem for which you need help?
>>41699271True but I think I could make it worse if I was in charge, so the hell ruler must be less evil or less creative than me which does give me some hope
>>41700039as trivial as it sounds, I am unable to distinct was true and what was not, in this story, there are two sides and one of them is real and the other is not. It's really hard to compress it into a few sentences. I feel like my soul is trapped in some sort of prison, it really feels like I'm going through torment in hell. I need some opinions from people who are deeper into spiritual stuff, someone with more wisdom and knowledge than me because it feels like I'm literally going insane.
>>41700123>in this story, there are two sides and one of them is real and the other is notCould you clarify?
>>41690639We're in Satan's little season chronologically in the revelation timeline.It's why freemason's control almost every government and it's also why everything is so spiritually dead and materialistic.It's why our financial system is fake.It's why our food is fakeIt's why our media is fakeIt's why literally everything currently going on is running like it's a bad movie script.
>>41690639Relying on other people for these types of revelations is always a mistake. If you want to know, investigate it yourself. You will never learn anything of value by simply observing what other people are doing and trying to learn from that sort of detached perspective.
>>41690746Fuck off with your debbie downer fear shit the ramblings of a junkie are not spiritual
Notice how they all take dangerous chemical psychs?
I sometimes wonder if we are, and maybe this artificial world is how we try to cope with it
>>41700123Please try. Like when did you start experiencing it? You feel like this is a demonic dreammatrix? >123Interesting numerically ordered digits.
>>41690639>Hell: Are we already there?yes
>>41700523this would also explain why those at the top do evil without fearwe are already here
>>41694994trips anon isn't >>41693748 (me)not doomers, no, the oppositeBasically we're all loooking for peace, happiness, fulfilment, whatever you want to call it and we think that when everything's arranged perfectly, only then we can be contented. But as long as we project our fulfilment into the future, this moment will always feel lacking. The kicker is that the future never comes, we only ever live in this moment, so we've created an eternity trap for ourselves. THe only way to stop the suffering is to stop trying to escape it. When you stop running and turn around, that's when you see you were running from your own shadow and you can finally rest
>>41690639We're all in samsara. Hell is just one place you can go in samsara. With regard to illusion, sensuality is what people use to cover up the unpleasant truth about suffering. If you give up the addiction to sensuality and ignorance, then the truth about suffering becomes apparent, and your mind lets go of suffering, freeing you from samsara.
>>41695333>but the stimulus is keeping us trapped in hereMaybe that's what the 'bite of the apple' is - the loop of chasing external stimuli
>>41699968>hungHe was my best friend. Do you not have any friends you'd be comfortable doing crazy shit like skinny dipping with? I only really had one. >fucked dudes For maybe like 3 months tops. Midlife crisis. Allow me to explain. His girlfriend and mine were best friends that lived 3 hours away. We were always on adventures like a big family. He was never into any gay shit until he started going nuts these last few years. It's a long story clearly, but he got a job paying him like 12k a month around the same time I got the hot girl from high school. He became distant working all the time and got big into coke and hookers. Then he broke it off with his girl of 20 years and started dating some 25 year old skank and doing bi shit with dudes at festivals. He was my best friend and he told me most anything comfortably. He basically bragged that he was buggering dudes too. Sad. But I suspect something /x happened to him. He seemed almost possessed by the need to chase every extreme experience by the end. Life was empty and be did not have the spirit to handle it. He couldn't cope with the realization that the world is fake and gay and no achievement really brings lasting happiness. So he became fake and gay chasing happiness and died. Very very devastating. Be was a super good dude.
>>41702059>He seemed almost possessed by the need to chase every extreme experience by the endSure he was not possesed by demons of lust?
The man has no pain. He gave up on his revenge.
>>41701272>not doomers, no, the oppositeI see.
>>41701139maybe I'll post today
>>41703379Ok
>>41690639>we Can automated machines experience suffering or ''hell'' as you like to put it?
Actually we are in High Heaven beseiged by Hell and Rakanoth is the most vile evil causing us to be unable to see High Heaven locked in Despair
>>41690639There is no such thing as Hell, as it is a nonexistent state of being that implies God is not in charge of the punishments, there is only the Spirit World. You can tell you're not in the Spirit World by taking note of how the wildlife here and even the gladiatorial animals like Pitbulls value Love, they just all do as their fallen flesh commands.
>>41702499Well, as I said. He was definitely lead by sinister undercurrents. His demons fed on alcohol and cocaine and winning. Lust, pride, gluttony. Those were his vices, and eventually they twisted him toward a short life. Literal possession? Probably not. But tormented by demonic vibrations beyond a shadow of a doubt. Lured by the shadow too often.
>>41702059>the world is fake and gay and no achievement really brings lasting happiness.sounds like he understood that better than you do.
>>41693502What a fucking nerd
>>41705543Based on what criteria exactly? I'm a hermit who lives off grid in a setup that would blow your mind i put together for less than 100,000 in a non shithole state. I took all of my worldly skills and said "fuck this rat race," downsized my life and destiny to something sustainable, and eliminated every bill but internet/phone and taxes (less than 150 bucks a year). I made about 9 grand this year and am raising two kids without sucking government dick. He was making 12k a month and losing most of it to cocaine and hookers. His hot perpetual child girlfriend had gotten fat and wasn't ever going to give him kids. He owed her 2 grand because 12k a month wasn't enough for him. He worked over 80 hours a week and wouldn't go hang with me because he knew he could make 2 grand if he didn't hang. By the end, he was covered in gay tattoos and sucking dicks. He didn't intend to unalive himself. He was just so busy chasing the next dopamine rush at 3 am at the start of horny buck season that he forgot all about them, and rode his 16,000 dollar motorcycle through a buck at 150. Please tell me exactly how he had figured out how fake and gay the world is, ignoring me urging him to choose the relationships in his life over satisfying his ego's need to be epic? Don't take a shit on the messenger. I'm just here to report that my best friend had a great life, but lived most of it in hell nonetheless. He was very gluttonous and lusted for more than he could afford. He forgot who he was chasing thrills and status. Once upon a time, I was his hero. Long before he became a hero to so many others. Well, he's dead as fuck and I'm still here, wagering he'll reincarnate right back home to do all this hurtful stuff again, but bigger and better next time very soon. I'll have better things to do than help him feel confident enough to grow up again.
>>41690639>>41690746What if.. and call me crazy here but what if these people were evil pieces of shit that when they die they will go to hell so when they breakthrough it already is hell since they are lined up and ready to go.
>>41706396I just gotta say though, he was a "huge fuck" (his own words) and it was hilarious being young and crazy with him. We almost died together so many times. He used to drink a lot and he liked to get in fights. Some of the funny things I saw him do over the years is worth mentioning simply because he was a good dude and I miss him a lot. One time some dirt bags tried to feed my pet turtles some weed. He asked them to speak outside on the front porch balcony and when they went out, he picked them up each with one arm and threw them off the balcony. Another time some dude in a car nailed his friend's Toyota, then got out to start a fight by punching the door. My behemoth friend got out of the passenger seat, picked this guy up like a suitcase and started smacking his head against the chrome bumper. "Are you sorry!?" DONK"Apologize then." DONK"Go on. Louder so we can hear you, bitch!" DONKReally, he was fucking MVP. Many people miss him a lot. A truly brilliant mechanic. He could build an insane battery from scratch with his hands. A once in a generation kind of talent ended by the needless hunger for more.
>>41706408Sounds like a retarded nigger faggot, and you are one too for idolising a loser like that
>>41692787yeah OP sounds like he fried his brains to the point of\ permanent dissociiation. many such cases of idiots who abuse substances. your brain builds up tolerances for a reason. i practiced lucid dreaming sober and got real good at it where i could lucid dream just about any time i slept, but it came with a price. nothing around me felt real. i know it's just a dream, but the vividness was all washed out, like going from a Laputa Castle in the Sky world to fucking Shrek. the once in a blue moon lucid dreams i have now feel more vivid and alive always
>>41696785Well worth the read.
>>41690639>I did drugs and went to hell Yeah no shit he did. He was being reminded by the Almighty that chemicals are the quickest way to the soul incinerator.
For 10-20 years I have had the recurrent”brain tick” or inner thought that says “help me im in hell”, “my life is hell” etc. on top of other suicidal type inner monologues. Maybe it is demons fucking with me..
>>41706428Seems like a weak attempt to troll somebody that you wouldn't dare try in public. And it really doesn't mean a fucking thing to me. He was pretty awesome actually, and though there are few people that were closer to him than I, he left thousands of people crying pretty hard this Christmas season. How many people would cry if you died? How many people would bother to mention you at all? When I join my friend, I'll leave plenty of people crying like bitches, and that's pretty fucking based.
>>41690639hes right in a way, its obvious. youre not being tortured thought this is bullshit made up by your brain because its not free. this is obviously torture for it.tough luck.were trapped inside a polytope, hell is not a place its a state of being.youre food. like a chicken nugget. the difference is youre an infinite chicken nugget.
go trip and tell them then see what happens :3
your brain will look different in higher dimension. the.what matters is the footprint of your tree of life. glad i couldnt help.
>>41707222>youre food. like a chicken nugget. the difference is youre an infinite chicken nugget.What is eating us/me?
>>41706396He realized it's fake and gay and nothing matters, so he went out on a high. You decided to bring more innocent souls into this hell world and raise them on a shoestring.
>>41707222So what does that make you, faggot?
>>41707107you ain't shit. just another peacocking niggerfaggot.
>>41690639We're always everywhere at once, but somewhere between strict and extreme is the best way to think of it.
>>41690639People like to call this place a school but I think it's closer to a bootcamp. When you're at your most spiritually powerful (between the ages of 1-6, IE when your soul is still "fresh" to life on earth and could pose a danger, you still remember a little at this point), you're given the smoothest ride you will ever have in your entire life. The world seems fun, like it has no problems with it. Then when you're complacent, materialized; "gotten used to the dummy hand" so to speak, they start hazing you, breaking you down, convincing you of a false yet undeniably grounded reality whose trail of breadcrumbs leads you right back into their arms. This hollows most people out, turns them into normies. They lose their divinity, their heads become empty jars to fill with orders. They stop thinking abstractly. Everything has to have a fucking reason. Humans are tortured in war because they're bad, or they were jeffrey dahmer in a past life, or whatever dumbfucker reason people make up on the spot.If you want to fight this, stop trying to make everything make sense. Logic is their weapon, they made it. Be wholly illogical and indiscernible. Pretend to be a non retard strategically pretending to be a retard, but you actually are a non-retard.
>>41707412Are you posting gore on blue boards now? Has your hentai tentacle parasite obsession gone a bit too far now?
>>41707918I'm very confident that you don't have the balls to call anybody "niggerfaggot" in any face to face situation, and literally never have. I'm also very confident you'd kowtow for my approval like literally everyone does. I'm unconcerned with your weak attempt to seduce me with your BBC homo fantasy.
>>41707897This place isn't hell. You might be. This place is a factory. Bringing people in here matters for reasons that are beyond you. He didn't go out on a high, you absolute nimwit. He went out very confused, looking and feeling gayer than ever, super busted mentally, and couldn't get over his ex. He was living that good Facebook life. That's literally the only thing he was doing. He didn't realize the world is fake: he fully sold out to it and lost himself in a "The Hangover" tier COOMquest. He died just going for a ride to blow off his broken heart like a fucking try hard, and he was about as atheist as it gets. The last text he sent me was about how based Neil degrasse Tyson is. And he was beyond me even explaining why I'm not down. If your criteria for waking up is being an irresponsible manchild in his 40s chasing experiences your friends had and didn't enjoy 15 years ago, good luck with that. I've got children to teach to shoot guns and produce radiant heated floors using their own shit. This is /x, faggot. Get on my level.
>>41709667Poast hand so we can see the health of your skin and get an idea of what you are.
>>41703724Are you referring to NPCs/Bots?
>>41709667I'm sorry for your loss anon, you clearly love the dude like a true brother. keep thriving and keep your head up, you'll see him again someday
>>41707412The mods allow gore on blue boards now?
>>41709667>Bringing people in here matters for reasons that are beyond you.Reasons like struggling against the societal machine until you realize it's literally bullshit and you're forced to go live as an off grid hermit and "downsize your destiny" because you know you will never achieve anything great other than living a modest life just focused on survival?>>41709667>This place is a factoryProducing slop tier "survivors" en masse to work the very same factory they came from while the wealthy connected insiders live whatever life they choose, obviously.
>>41709475>>41711311It is just a action figure, some food dyes, and a toothy hair clip. I thought it looked like a monster, so I did some stuff with it that i thought fit it. I honestly thought only real or eroguro type gore/extreme gore was banned. Sorry.
>>41709634>>41709667>*delusional niggerfaggot noises*
>>41706335What?
>>41703379How about now?
>>41711333>modest life focused on survivalI produce things, actually. I feed a family of four and have plenty of time to enjoy every minute with my kids. I expand myself in any and every way I please and don't want for anything. I live a simple, very satisfying life and won't miss this place too much when I'm gone. Along the way, I'm educating my own children and setting up many generations below me for long term success. To the contrary, I've rescued the "destiny" of my entire family while at it. I'm also very useful to my local community, and many will miss me when I'm gone. I'm good, friend. My life is pretty meaningful after many years of hurt. >the factory We're produced here, though we ultimately strive to make it to much better places. By having children, you're producing pieces of eternity. Yes, they will suffer here. Suffering here and getting over it is a big part of what you'll need for round 2. If you don't ready yourself for round 2, you'll simply replay round 1 the next chance you have. There is no trick. Sincerely, there is only one way out and that's through.
>>41711428Thanks for the bumps. I'm still not going to fuck you, dude.
>>41709927Why not?
>>41711121Thank you. I believe it. It was always clear that I'd outlive him. He was crazy adventure guy. I feel his presence more for me since he died and I'm surviving without him. I still miss his irreplaceable sense of humor. And it was awesome having an Orc sized human as a wingman.
>>41697759there's a war on and the bad guys are winning
>>41714372Do tell, what do you think is "round 2"?
>>41714757Shall I really spoil it? What I offered here is merely a cautionary story about a man who lusted deeply for the material and chased the ethereal in a vain attempt to have it for himself, lived in his own hell as a great to many, and died in a crisis that would have been funny had he survived it. He will probably reincarnate here whether because I know he never left internal hell.There are many reasons for the 4 classical elements. Your journey here, ground zero, was a journey of despiritualization and materialization from the infinite. This time you are water, darkness, the primordial, abzu. Water based life: cellular, the most "made of stuff." From here you will experience a rebirth in air, aether. The Japanese call this and the next incarnation Yuukai, or spirit realm. On your journey home from there you will with any luck experience earth, matter based life, vibrational life, planets, solar systems, cosmic signals, gravity. Beyond that lies the domain of fire, light, radiation, stars, gods, all kinds of things. "Reikai" in Japanese. "Shinkai," infinity, the pleuroma, "heaven," the realm from which you descended here is beyond that. In this life, you lack the structures required to perceive life beyond water based life. The universe appears dead, but the air itself is alive with beings made less of "stuff" than you: "ghosts," "spirits" (which means breaths). Made of air. Lacking organs way you have organs. Still "living," but not as you view living. Christianity isn't necessarily wrong, but it's an extremely limited view of infinity: the source of its obsession. Most of us by 2025 reincarnate because we don't usually leave here with enough courage to continue very far once our world becomes bigger and time flows at a different perceptive rate. Reincarnation, "soul trap," "loose farm," all that is just what happens when you chicken out and fall back down the ladder. Every death is a new beginning. The new beginning is round 2.
>>41714923That's a lot to consider. Thanks for the response.
shut the fuck up about your faggot friend dude no one gives a shit
>>41714984Anime based gangstalking.
>>41714372>>41714923>it was all a LARP by a reincarnation jeet yet againThis place truly is hell.
Look the fact is this place is more or fake and gay. Ive now had multiple dreams where some people I like act completly out of character. I'm thinking some beings are toying/provocating me. None of this would happen in a transparrent and organic world, it could only happens in a hush hush world with tens of millions of people gatekeeping the place from truth seekers, or from those who want to expose the inner workings of the system's machinery (they taunt us so much that they even put on TV commercial where someone says "we live in a system", so confident that normies wont wake up)
I've literally seen some religious person praising the work of jesuits on a lecture. In another one, another priest said word for word "some conspiracy theorists say jews run central banks in europe and america. Even if that were too, that too is gift from god" (context: lecture on 5th moses book deutrenomy something). Then there was the classic "gnosticism le bad" lecture by some one couple times
>>41690639Hell is not a real concept. It's a fictional place from a book.
>>41690639I was thinking about this today. I could already be in hell. Things go wrong while i try to everything right and I suffer the consequences without being able to correct. And every corrective action and well meant intention gets twisted into adding to the state of wrongness. Doing nothing seems like the only sane option, but doing nothing is death. Anyway, i got the concept from your OP pic from this story: In 1846, a Russian psychologist received a patient, in a small town outside of present day Perm that had been pronounced dead during a routine surgery, but was revived and awoken thirty minutes later. The patient was completely dysfunctional and falling apart at the very core of his mental state. The patient claimed that he had gone to Hell and the demons were among them and talking to him. Although the psychologist provided help, the demented man committed suicide in his home. Before the patient died, he revealed to the doctor his experience in Hell. He described Hell as in an infinite strand of layers. He explained them in detail, and said he only made it through five.Level One:Life moves on as normal, you do not know or feel as if you have died. You are thrown to a point in your life and get to live it over as if in a dream. No matter what you do...something is off. This was told to be the worst part of hell because hope still remains in your mind. But there is no hope.Level Two:Everything you know and love becomes lost to you in the most unimaginable way. The demons who had disguised themselves as humans in layer one begin to emerge and show their true form, and begin to torment you. There is no escape, there is no rest. When described, this layer was compared to twenty to thirty years in length.https://creepypasta.fandom.com/wiki/Hell_and_Back
your idea of hell is constructed, the best way to observe reality is by viewing God as a demon, then the world starts to make more sense.
>>41716009Interesting
>>41716010For masons to be able to hide amongst/from Christians so easily (literally none of them care), it is a requisite that they actually share the same g-d.
>>41716028When I drove home on christmas the roads where full of snow and ice. I was inattentive for a second and suddenly i saw a flashing light for the fraction of a second. I was on the road still after that. My christmas was awful and just now the girl I had a thing with just told me she fucked another guy yesterday. This doesn’t faze me, but the possibility i might be in hell and no matter what I do things go wrong is bothering me. I might be dead, just in hell. And there is no way to disprove it.
Whether this place is "hell" is a matter of perspective. If one feels restricted or limited, it can feel that way.I will share some truths I have learned:1. Most all that is presented as truth in this "world" is far from it (think misdirection and inversion). Human belief systems primarily come from "facts" accepted without discernment. The way forward is to deconstruct one's beliefs and re-form them from personal observation.2. Narratives are human explanations for events that are of a "spiritual" nature. Discount all narratives and the "world" will appear differently. There is no true separation between physical and spiritual.3. This place is a realm. Like a dream, it has no size or shape. One's environment is a product of one's belief system and that of others similarly situated. What matters is all local-- family, neighbors, personal interactions. All else is distraction.4. There are "others" here, in positions of "influence." These others have a purpose, as all things do. They are creators of the systems that exist collectively as human society, restricting independence, promoting distraction, manipulating emotions. Society is their game. Design and play one's own game.5. There is only the present. From it, all potential exists and all things created. Anything that suggests the likelihood of a future event is designed to manipulate one away from the present, where Creation creates. If one thinks in terms of likelihood, probability, inevitably, one has strayed from the present.6. Intuition extends the abilities of one's senses to make connections that are not otherwise visible. It should be exercised regularly.7. There is a stage of existence after the "human" stage. Humans are in differing levels of evolution toward that. Evolution occurs when the "physical" state is no longer adequate to contain one's mental state. Listen to others, observe, interact, experience, but follow one's own lead.
>>41690639Sigh.None of you want to hear this but here I go.A very holy woman in Japan, a pure land Buddhist, left this poem to her son on her deathbed as her final revelation:I was utterly blind and did not know it. How shameful to have thought I was all right. I thought the nembutsu I uttered was my own, but it was not; it was Amida’s call. How grateful, indeed, I am. NAMU-AMIDA-BUTSU.I know now my being,definitely destined for the path leading to hell, neither the Pure Land nor hell is of any use to me.All conditoned beings are destined for hell. This is why you must realize you are not a conditioned being. God's gift isn't mindless bliss, it's emptiness itself. Potentiality. The ability to create anything, to be anything. To be a Buddha and a son. But we can't do this currently, faced with emptiness we will create infinite suffering and torture ourselves with demons. This is why you can't just be zapped up to eternal heaven, because you won't perceive it as heaven, it'll be hell. Notice how both these people are in constant search of higher highs, the first one literally flips a coin on going to heaven or hell just because he's so desperate to taste the infinite bliss that can exist. This is the ultimate end point of duality, swung between infinite pleasure and infinite pain, rolling with the wave of polarity to scream between hell and be free between heaven. Stop running, stop flailing. Most importantly, stop being afraid. Are you gonna cling for the flickering happiness or seek the permanent refuge of wisdom? It's time to grow up. Merry Christmas, you have already been given the greatest present of all.How old are you btw Migga? The stuff you're talking about and claiming to experience reminds me so much of where I was a decade ago it hurts me internally to see it. You need to let it go man, you need to stop following it, it's not you. Just seek the true Lord and ask yourself: who am I?https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1766615164099756.mp4
>>41716935I think it's some kind of loosh farming. Those souls who did not kneel for the evil, are getting tortured the hardest.. maybe
This was a triumphI'm making a note here, great sucessIt's hard to overstate my satisfactionWelcome to Hell, we do what we want, because we canhttps://youtu.be/_P4XOiMKLhk?si=8FVBSIpCNc8M4kZC
>>41690639another day another retarded name faggot thread
>>41715928But I'm not a Jeet. And literally nothing I've written was a larp and is easily cross referenced. It turns out I actually have a lot of shit to do and don't really care that much if you personally believe me. I'm a med/nord, if it matters. It really doesn't. Both of my kids are blondes with blue eyes and I stand by everything I've written. The goal never has been reincarnation. We begin here and aim to get away from it. There are principalities of reign above us so to speak, and we can each get there someday, but those powers run a tight show and make upward mobility difficult. Ancients reincarnated less than we do on average because there weren't a myriad of higher ascended beings in their time. We're all bound for the same destination inevitably. Is any of this actually worth arguing with? I'm not one to accuse anybody of glowing, but you demotivational faggots glow hard. Literally nobody is such a loser that what they organically do when reading a eulogy is think "what an Indian larper."
>>41715136>topicAre you bored of hearing yourself say "faggot" yet?
>>41690782>eternity is newly defined as 1000 years.what? it used to be 2000 years, kek
I forgot where I read it, but some psychic said that this kind of doomer mentality is spread by demons who want to see you suffer. They're jealous because we're literally the spawn of God.In fact, you probably felt that pang of jealousy as you read this. That's not you, it's them. You're just smelling their feelings. They're sad fuckers. Rejects.
Even though we are all literally in Hell and society is collapsing into total chaos, everyone is too depressed and demoralized to give a shit or enact real changeThere is no point to voting, because no matter who you vote for the System will ensure the status quo remains 1:1 with how it was in the previous administrationThere is no point to education, because degrees no longer matter, the white collar industry is dead and professors care more about indoctrination than teachingThere is no point to dating, because the gender war has become so critical that most men are terminally alone and most women are okay with being single moms or spinstersThere is no point to consuming entertainment, because all of it is terrible. Movies suck, games suck, music sucks, anime suck, YouTube sucks, everything is just content nowThere is no point to self-improvement, because genetics and childhood trauma impact your entire life and you cannot do anything besides cope about things getting betterThere is no point to saving money or starting a family or trying to own a home or get a stable career or make a name for yourself, because the West only wants to outsource all of thisPeople constantly tell me I am in a negative mindset, meanwhile everyone outside is shambling around like the living dead. Tempers are shorter than ever, IQs are lower than ever, no one knows how to control their emotions and tribalism is at an all time high. Humanity has literally regressed back into a hunter-gatherer mindset despite progressivism, but we have zero of the freedom or physical advantages afforded to cavemen.Reality is now converging with the Mouse Utopia and Stanford Prison Experiment. 80-20 is taken as law. Jews run every sector of the world. Fractional reserve banking won't ever go away. Narcissism and ironic detachment are the norm. War won't ever endI don't know what to do anymore because I'm just one guy. I have no power, no motivation, I'm just a husk like everyone else
>>41718880January 6th was the hint of the crowd that they could do something. But wisely they did not, there was nothing for them to make their new God.Next time, instead, there will be Nothing to make their new God.
>>41718833That was the logical and reasonable take on our Earthly circumstance for all of human history until the Christians took over and raped everyone's minds with Jewish schizohphrenia. Now you have these /x/cels perpetually treading water, pissing and shitting over demons, demiurges, Jesus, hell, angels. Jewish schizophenia, man.
I wonder if posts like these are a sign? Like I saw this about 2 years ago or so on a video about a brutal Japanese game show. It was not a reply to a comment of mine, but it still felt targeted.
>>41696647Sorry for your loss anon.I have had six funerals in the past four years, plus my cat. Started going to the local Greek Orthodox church. I was a Classics major, raised agnostic, but I feel like the answers are in the Bible. Ecclesiastes and Job.
>>41719512Yet in the vast emptiness of his world, he still finds the capacity to love his goldfish, his crayon too..
>>41718880Damn, bro summed it up...it's painful but true. This coming from someone who spent the past 15 years focused on self-improvement thinking I could turn it all around, pic very related.
>>41719528That's God baby! Amen!
>>41718942You have to understand that bots AIs and demons seem to have a hold on many Christians online, and some of that mindrape is transferring off to you because of inbuilt trauma.Catholics and Orthodoxs, while not perfect either, aren't playing these demonic games you find on /x/.It's not just destroying their minds, it runs off on all who see it since not only is Christ the true nature of our atman, but we in the west all have an inherent reverance for Christ built into our unconscious. You need to stop blaming others, this is and always has been the goal of these demons. You can find my posts calming down the thread in the link OP posted (he riled them back up after I left it seems, whoops) because I've dealt with this demon before. Its goal is to make you feel insane, blame others (which will make reality hell), separate you from others into madness, and then consume you in hell.Let is go and leave this idea behind. It's not real, this is a demon.
>>41718880>There is no point to self-improvementLaughably wrong.You are a demoralizer and nothing more than that.
Every time this question comes up the answer is no. When you're in Hell YOU WILL KNOW. You will never have to ask when you are IN HELL, and no-one will ever have to tell you. This is life, that much we know. Everytime these "truth-seeker" trip lord, drug addicts get an answer to their question it sounds like something an older sibling would say to youjust to scare you. I understand "the mind employs certain coping mechanisms" but that really seems like a cop out.
>>41706621slay queen
My bad trips were all on weed funny enough. Reality shattering shit, not enjoyable in any way. It started off with sounds becoming louder, then I began to hear passing thoughts way louder, then it felt like beings were taking up physical space around me, and pushing me, laughing, taunting, etc. I got punched in the face and it physically hurt. Felt like my vocal chords were filled with noise, screams. Soon the senses became too "loud", I would lose all sense of space and time, only knowing fear, occasionally to become lucid for a split second before being pulled back into the fire. I saw visions of aliens, angels, demons, doing everything from sitting around watching me and commentating to actively tearing me apart limb from limb, using proboscii to suck the light out of me. I got repetitive motion syndrome, where I'd get up and walk around before sitting down; it felt like I repeated that for hours. At one point I became convinced I'd blink and wake up in a place of infinite suffering, and the anticipation I felt for that was like a last meal, but I was only getting a bite.That's one of the tame experiences.It wasn't even strong weed IIRC, wasn't laced either.
>>41690639Hell is the natural condition of life, which is why you waste away in agony if you refuse to participate.Creation is the only form of liberation.
>>41690639If we're already in hell, then that's genuinely good news.Nowhere to go but up, we don't have to worry about being sent to a place we're already at, and it (arguably) means that any suffering we feel was earned.
>>41722595No, it's very bad news. How many more times do you think you'll be back here?At the rate we're going, how bad will it get? You wouldn't even get the privilege to remember when times were good. You'd just wake up one day, and people get 200,000,000 simulated years in a state of the art hell machine for stealing pens at banks, because some fuckhead 2000 years ago thought it would be God's will. Why? BECAUSE WE JUST HAD TO. Because life is stupid for no reason, and always evolves into its worst form; because evolution does what works, not what is good, and the requirements for "works" is grossly general. Unless you ever get your hands on the end button, you'll take being a jellyfish over where we're going. Trust me. Life can and will always get so much worse.
>>41690639>What if we are already in Hell?What makes you think we aren't? As Sartre said, Hell is other people. Just look at the untold cruelties and horrors some of us inflict upon others. Yet we are also in paradise at the same time. It's up to you how you choose to see it all.
>>41722580This reminds me of an anon that said if you saw 666 as the last digis of his reply you were effed, but if you saw 777, you were OK. He said that terror trips on even just weed was a bad sign.
>>41722619>you'll take being a jellyfishAs a tentacled creature fan, kinda would be a wet dream. >tentacled >dang near organisms>possibly biologically Immortal Ahh...based af.
>>41719410bots yeah. targeted? maybe, maybe not. best ignore them
>>41723472>As a tentacled creature fan, kinda would be a wet dreamI browse the h2gg or whatever on /vg/ (thread for hentai/eroge games) and nobody is a tentacle fan. You must be some special kind of retard to belong to such minority
>>41723424>we are also in paradise at the same time. It's up to you how you choose to see it all.Oh cool, now spin Epstein, 2020 and the rising cost of living for me.
>>41690639"Hell" is just non-chaos. God is Chaos. The "bliss" of heaven is just experiencing everything at all once. You have to experience an ordered existence occasionally because perception is what allows new chaos to expand indefinitely. We suffer because living in order is stripping away 99.999999999999999999999999999999999% of all the other stuff that we would be experiencing at all times and we are in a state of constant desire to be returned to our "stuff".
>>41723792Do you not realize tentacle content is also in hentai and nonerototic nongame format?
Wel, YOU are
>>41690639I think hell is a mix of other people doing us wrong and us doing ourselves wrong. Having no hope is pretty much hell. When your mindset is negative enough it actually destroys your physical body. When you take drugs and "hallucinate" you'll have a bad trip if your thoughts are negative enough. We influence each other. Our life could be closer to an ideal or hell depending on what's done to us and how we respond to it. If you're scared, guilt ridden, hopeless etc. it might have more of an effect than just on your physical body. We might end up in a world based on what we were trained in and gave into. I can't say for sure but I think it's better to stay as positive as possible in this life. Easier said than done but even at the worst it's possible to choose better. Belief is underrated and can be trained through repetition either way. Try to repeat the good things a lot even if it looks bad.
>>41723792>tentacle creature fanjesus christ, how old r u ?
>>41719512If you love someone, you would believe God would give them good things, instead of believing God does nothing for anyone.
>>41724753This sounds like an excuse to loosh farm souls if true.
>>41726105No, because tentacles have no fans. You're in the minority, get some help.
Hmm...
>>41718880>People constantly tell me I am in a negative mindsetTs is so annoying. I said this in a server once nd everyone acted like I was a nihilist and was virtue signaler somehow. And "BILLIONS MUST DIE" guy for saying your vote doesn't matter and that we need to do something. Fucking normies and their copuim jew coding. Funniest thing is all these people hate Isreal and when I did they suddenly anted like Isreal wasnt a huge issue. Infuriating asf
>>41727915Nah, tentacles are cool af.
>>41730438This is fucked, you might be suffering from some parasites. Do some parasite clear diet or something, try doing some nicotine pills
>>41719871You misunderstand. Believing that a crucified Jewish Nazarene stands between you and God is Jewish schizophrenia. You are mindraped.
>>41690639Migga Biscuit I wanna say mean thingsBut fundamentally the way you look at life in terms of black and white means you will never understand the truth at your current rateBasically you are enslaved by your subconscious tendencies to find hell on earth, and find hell you shallIs it worth it?
>>41731164>if you imagine happy things peter pan, the billionaire pedo rapist cult that empowers tens of millions of freemasons worldwide, cease their activitiesDo you understand how retarded you sound right now? You must have very low IQ. Please tell me your entire family took the vaccine?
>>41731233muy entire familidad los vacinado and there's nothing you can do about it chud
>>41697759>I feel like if this was hell the experience would be closer to 100% badAbsolutely not. It wouldn't be torture if all you felt was "Bad". You would have nothing to compare it to. You would simply have nothing.The method is to slowly, continuously make things a little bit worse a bit at a time.Forever.
>>41728139Saying that you "need to do something" somehow makes you negative instead of passionate. It's insane the amount of self-flagellation people will go through in order to keep themselves slavelike.
>>41731373Yeah I wanna see you going to your family meeting and naming every single freemason in your entire family in-front of your every family member. I wanna see you do that and tell me this world doesn't have a problem. Because until people start doing that, nothing will change.
You know it's actually easier naming the jew because some family members probably are nazis that killed them, but it's a lot harder naming the masons, because those are the actual traitors who sold their granddaughters to kike prostitution and paved way for the family to go into the path of generational satanism, all in the name of their own narcissistic greed.
>>41690639Nope. We're not in hell. This is drug related reaming. This happens when you are on drugs or going through withdrawals. VERY VIVID DREAMS and they can be a single continuous dream. It can be about anything. But it's very life like and isn't scattered like a normal night of dreams. His unfortunately took form of the concept of hell.
>>41699114Do-nothing cowardly head-in-sand philosophy. So patently naive its actually an Evil criminal selfish philosophy.
>>41718880>You have realizations, but rather than recognize the positive implications you expressloss. This is because your ego,what you believe yourself to be, is defined by structures and systems that you see breaking away. Your dependence on them is a result of programming. These structures and systems are illusions accepted by the masses but created by others without your best interests in mind. They are comfortable and fear based.Are humans dependent on these structures and systems? There is a reason that they are all breaking down. The mass awakening will allow new structures and systems to take their place.You mention, for example, owning a home. What would happen if humans refused to go into debt to buy a house? It is consent to the system that keeps the debt based system in place. In the long run a new system would emerge. Consent to the system starts with decisions made in the present.What if fewer attended "formal" education? Does this mean education itself ends? Or will new systems to educate be formed?The programming keeps humans in fear. It creates dependence.>41718880>I don't know what to do anymore because I'm just one guy. I have no power, no motivation, I'm just a husk like everyone elseThis belief is promoted by the programming. The programming seeks to promote a feeling of separation and to remove the Creator from our lives. To move forward, it is important to trust that one has the ability to adjust, to learn new skills and news ways of doing things--that what we are is not limited to existing systems and structures.There is great opportunity to create amidst the apparent chaos.
i just think if you have the time and privilege to namefag on this board all day this isn’t hell and you’re kind of a pussy
>>41722580Weed doesn't do that unless you are already insane or something. You can't know 100% it wasn't laced unless you grow it yourself, so there is a possibility that you are lying.
>>41722580>>41723464>>41732011My bad, it was 667 that was good to see. But yeah, anon says even weed will do this if you are on Hell's path.
>>41702059yeah sure it was skinny dipping you had your butt explored
>>41690639Yeah I have had same type of thing happen to me on DXM too then was told about buddhism while in hell and learned the 4 truths in a night. I guess all I can say is that this false world (all is false in truth) can be seen as hellish when there is a self that is clinged to. See self as ever changing, no self that is solid that can't be judged, desires just existing without clinging and you can change how you view it. I will be doing 900mg of dxm after new years with this I have no fear of those past things.
>>41732545Oh and in this fact, the torture as you say, transcends without labels and you see body as false (spirit as true formless) and the feelings that once hurt you (knifes, saws whatever) as energy/vibration that may have been stuck and viewed falsely through ego self fear which enhanced it!
>>41732289Rule of Colel
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>>41690639Salvation is a state of being in Agape-Love. Satan has fooled people into thinking it is a location. Ezekiel 37 is real… most will be offered God’s Agape-Love Holy Spirit after being reaurrected. Sin (hata) is the lack of Agape-Love and it reaps death. Sin-Agape-Love == wothout Agape-Love == precise definition of Biblical sin. Repentance is toward Agape-Love. The mark missed is Agape-Love. Of you don’t have Agape-Love you don’t know Agape-Love. The law is Agape-Love. Satan duped the masses into believing God is a sadist.God’s salvation plan is coded in His Holy Days outlined in the Bible.
>>41734324I heard Hell was meant for Satan and his demons, but idk how true that is.
>>41733935?
>>41690639>>41691426>>41691431Reminder of why we master our minds and grow a backbone before fucking around with forces we don't understand. I had an NDE. I attacked every being that tried to come near me with full fury until I was left alone... This anon basically just let these things happen with no resistance. Probably some kind of deranged masochist. His entire saga is weirdly sexually tinged with lust for suffering, it bleeds through the page. Sickening. I mean who else keeps taking the drugs knowing full well they're going to experience such things?We do certainly live in hell, but liberation is not only possible but actually the destiny of all living things eventually. There is no torment great enough for the demiurge and its minions
>>41690639>heaven>hell>earthwordsmeaningless wordsnothing can force you to exist>(you)exist by choice aloneno torture can be eternalnothing can ever truly hurt youfor all harm is temporaryif we're in hell, I wonder if I can use demons to generate electricity
>>41718880You care too much and you fear a lot.
>>417323481/10. If he explored my butt, I'd have no problem just owning it. /x is a weird place to sit around and make gay jokes about somebody because they had actual friends in the real world. It's also weird because he's the only one that homo'd out on the edge of 40. I've got a wife and kids and live in a different zip code. Say whatever you want. He was a smart and talented person. The kind of guy that you'd call when your car was broken and your life sucked and he'd fix every one of your problems for free because he was a good friend. He was the kind of guy you called when your girlfriend hanged herself and you hadn't a soul you could really talk about it with. He was the kind of guy that you called when you got too high in the middle of the woods and locked your keys in the ignition. You told him "I have no fucking idea where I am. There was a golf course and I turned left sometime after that." And he just showed up to break into your car with a pocket knife and a fork. He was a kick ass person, but he couldn't be satisfied, and his life was a kind of hell surrounded by pillows and comfort.
>>41690639Are we already there? No I think not. If I am wrong then if this place is hell, the Universe is even better then I could have imagined. If this is the worst place in the universe, and its filled with fun, joy and love, what a good universe it really is!!!
Wouldn’t surprise me. Seems like every fiber of existence is built on sum kind of struggle and suffering. 90% pain 10% pleasure as if the little amount of good is only there to distract from the mostly suffering
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>>41696785Best post I've ever seen on this shitty site
The Alawite anon ama threads changed my lifeAlawite AMA threads:1.https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36931222/#369312222.https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36976168/#369761683.https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37023268/#370232684.https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37093515/#370935155.https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37134196/#371341966.https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37237392/#372373927.https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37333243/#37333243
>>41690639its not a cointoss. its your state of mind at the very moment.
>>41743416Why do people just make this retarded shit up?
>>41690639That anon isn't lying. I bet it felt like that to him. I've taken plenty of acid and each trip but one was heavenly. Just once was it dark but that was bc my fren had called just days prior talking about suicide. I still had that on my mind. I had to take xanax and luckily i had some to kill the trip. I was good 30 mins later. But for the hell part. it's not hell. it's a heaven that someone is corrupting. God allowed the corruption is the mind fuck anon. God allows the shitters to weed themselves out. Are they bad in the end forever? is hell forever? I doubt it. I imagine it's however long the source creator allows it for. For now you are def living and thinking. What this place is is def special. When I take acid and go on my natural hikes everything feels "live". not alive but "live". Like real time is happening and there isn't shit some people can do about it's. God turned this bitch on and you are here and so is a bunch of other shit lmao. Good and bad.Good luck.
>>41696647>He sneaked around behind her back doing cocaine and fucking girls for 20 years. In the end, he was having 3 ways with dudes and had a zoomer mullet.anon that guy was a faggot loser. fuck that kind of guy anon. fuck you for glorifying that queer degen.
>>41744651It makes everything a tad more interesting
>>41690639At least post the right link, niggerfaggot.https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/35033143/#q35035025
>>41690639I've had experiences that truly let me to believe I was being tormented by the Demiurge, I've prayed to God but he hasn't helped me in any way, not even to show proof of his existance so that my heart can feel a small measure of peace that he's watching over me.
>>41745622The link I posted had more relavent information regarding the thread's picrel.
Selfbump to save.
>>41690639Wherever you are, you have the right to choose, you have the right to choose which road to take, you have the right to decide how to solve a problem. Therefore, figuratively speaking, create a piece of paradise around you, and everything will be fine, and do not forget that even in paradise there are angels with flaming swords to protect it, to protect the paradise. About the pleasures. Study them. Know the measure for each of the pleasures that would not harm your or people around you health, but would bring joy.
>>41690639Even if death awaits you in the next 15 minutes, you have the right to choose the method of death, this is important. Some deaths are better than some others.