can enlightened gnostics regrow a cut limb by imagining it?
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>>41691756Anything like that is extremely feared by (((TPTB))) (think a man able to shoot fireballs at will or invulnerable to gunshots and dronestrikes), so when you go to the public field of esoteric information - including "gurus" and "masters" - you are usually limited to the same old casino pathways: le wealth, le car, le house, le women, le carreer. Nobody will ever give you knowledge on how to regenerate or do other incredible AND practical things, because that is power, and the power is taken, never given. In other words: do your own research or perish.
>>41691905Yeah exactly no shot you'll ever escape the infinite maze of horseshit "power" we're tempted with.. you're a gnostic, are you not OP? What has the Demiurge crafted this realm for? What purpose does heaven and hell serve? (Temporary punishment for a life lived in opposition, temporary reward for a life lived in compliance.) The entire concept of Gnosticism hinges on this creation being one to escape from, cling to true beauty within and beyond this realm, and so the Demiurge will try and sway you towards the beauty he has crafted, he will punish you and hurt you and make you wish to cling to this world so he can trap your spirit another billion years, that's all there is until you escape, and escape is inevitable for us all, and he hates this, so he tortures us further, he is but an unruly child hissing at his block tower falling over and setting it back up again, we encased within these blocks of resin as spirits immutable, fundamental aspects to a greater tapestry we've been torn from for a time.
>>41691756Would Jesus be considered an enlightened Gnostic or was he a different entity entirely?
>>41691924Gnosticism is retarded, yet another attempt to dualistically white-wash the Absolute who created/allowed creation of ebil Demiurge. Merely a stepping stone on the path.
>>41691988Indeed. Gnosticism is ego damage control for people who are too proud to admit that they're getting what they deserve in life.
>>41692033>You know what you did, you little shit. And now you get what you fucking deserve.
>>41691988The Absolute is above the Demiurge, all creation is far more complex and beyond what we can perceive within his failed imitation, so yes you are correct, everything here is merely a stepping stone on the path towards being released from his mockery & returning to the Absolute that made any of it possible. The same as we are capable of wrong, the Demiurge has committed wrong, but all is not permanent and the Demiurge is nothing to fear ultimately, that enrages him of course
>>41692069The Absolute is ultimately responsible for everything that ever was, is, or will be, including the existence of the Demiurge. That's why it seems like Gnostics are coping hard by laying the blame for evil on a subordinate entity, instead of just acknowledging that it's very possible that the Absolute simply does not abide by your human notions of Good and Evil.
>>41692103Well that is the idea behind the Absolute. It's not a personal god, and it has no reason to create reality, let alone a flawed one. You can't know it, prescribe ego, or human reasons or understanding to it. It is beyond that understanding. Beyond you. And yes, Beyond the human concept of Good and Evil.To create a flawed world, or a world at all, you need ego. Thus you need the demiurge. A flawed world implies a flawed creator. The whole created in his image thing, it's a reflection.
>>41692033>ego damage control for people who are too proud to admit that they're getting what they deserve in life.It's not about the cards any individual has been handed or afforded themselves, it's not about personal experience whatsoever, anyone who presents it this way is in fact suffering from this creation but ultimately unaware of why. Think about this, why do you have to brush your teeth? It might sound like needless whining to point to this, because your knee-jerk reaction is to deny the underlying implications outright, the implication is inherently and immediately upsetting to the subconscious as we try to move through life blind to these aspects, and may even find ourselves surrounded by edgelords obsessed with the grim reality of life, as if they suffer any less for it. The answer of course is extremely simple, you have to brush your teeth so that they do not rot. You may choose not to, but your teeth will rot.This creation exists within a permanent loop of rot, eat, create, rot, everything around you is slowly becoming worse, it is the nature of all things within this creation to deteriorate. You may find yourself surrounded by those obsessed with clinging at a culture that has rotted through, ignorant to the blatant reality that all world cultures are and will continue to be subject to this. All development that we accomplish is not dissimilar to filling your belly with a meal, another step forward, as the tapestry itself slowly yellows and falls brittle, you are rotting, your culture is rotting, your language is rotting, your systems are rotting, your world is rotting, our universe is an imitation of the divine that a spoiled brat ripped us from for a game.
>>41692103>Gnostics are coping hard by laying the blame for evil on a subordinate entityIn which verse?
>>41692127>Field too longDo you really believe that the divine rots? This is a fleeting illusion that will last an eternity, but an eternity is short in a rotting tapestry and our spirit will be free when the eternity is through, the demiurge will be unhappy, the demiurge is never happy, he never has been, maybe when he's grown. Until then, this is it, but to become a "blackpilled gnostic" over this is not to become a gnostic at all, and to cling to this world for it's "good" is not either, the good of this world resides within you, and without this imitation, and so you must focus your mind on the purity that is your own soul, shut out the demiurge and his games, endure lifespans treated to both heaven and hell on repeat, until your soul is ready to escape. This is the reality, not some "psychic prison" with the purpose of extracting resources, even in a parallel world where ayys do just that, it is but a toying of the demiurge, our reality is far more simple, and endlessly complex in it's simplicity, our true nature is well beyond us, I cannot even begin to envision it.
>>41692126The Absolute by definition encompasses any "flawed world" there is AND isn't, as well as any creator of such a world.
>>41692139The Absolute embodying everything is a given and ensures that it is also ultimately nothing, it is very much both, and so very obviously has no say to what "everything" should be, aside from, well, literally everything possible, that is the Absolute's only role, is to be you and me and everything else, including the demiurge. To give worship to the Absolute is fairly moot, but certainly impossible to be portrayed as bad. The demiurge as a lower being (naturally) is acting negatively the same way you can piss on an anthill, the anthill is also the Abdolute's creation, and it is fully within your power to do so, right or wrong does exist within our minds, all concepts embody the Absolute, and so these concepts MUST exist to the Absolute as a matter of fact as NOTHING exists outside of the Absolute, however the Absolute's nature embodies all things and so that nature is not limited by our perception. What you are saying is true, and does not negate the reality of the demiurge, the demiurge is small, we are yet smaller, and this is merely the experience we are undergoing for now, when we are free, we will only ever remain a component of the Absolute, the demiurge is simply larping as the Absolute due to his boundless childish ego, and we are caught up on that flounce.
>>41692170>Caught up in* Also I will add that when I say we are yet smaller, I mean currently, and only by our perception, the Absolute surely recognizes all matter as equal, but our perception is also a creation of the Absolute and of equal value to the reality of our equivalence to the pathetic demiurge who would deny these implicit truths
>>41691756attaining the marrow is instant enlightenment, hence these poor ukraine men getting blown to bits, they lose more than an arm they are instantly struck by the buddhas ancestors. this is why enlightenment is not for everyone.
>>41692128Why are you playing dumb?https://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/antithesis.html
>>41692322Fake and gay.>This page represents a short exercise on my part (rather loose and by no means comprehensive)- the purpose of which is to provide a brief glimpse into Marcion's lost work, "Antithesis", which can be best described as a Marcionite commentary on the New Testament, which set forth contrasts on passages( via narrative commentary, or by the presentation of OT and NT scriptures side-by-side) between the Hebrew diety and the Alien God. It is not certain how this work was actually arranged, whether a separate work apart from Marcion's canon, or a commentary incorporated into it. Also, Marcion was not a 'gnostic'.
>>41691756Would gnostic care about this?
>>41691756Actually yeah, that's called Khanda yoga as practiced by Sathya Sai Baba or the practice of Khanda Manda Yoga as practiced by Aghoris
>>41692625>Sathya Sai BabaMy bad, wrong Sai Baba. I meant Sai Baba of Shirdi
>>41691763>Cuts off his dick to own le demiurgeWait until you find out who it is.>>41692069Nice digits check out picrel and ask who is the lion. Tranny Sudoku incoming, brace yourselves.>Haha I cut my dick off take that God>What? Drumpf is the demiurge?I STOLE YOUR DICKI STOLE YOUR DICKI AM LUCIFER AND I WILL BE THE ONLY ONE IN HEAVEN WITH A DICK.
>>41692534Okay well you could just read The Apocryphon of John. It doesn't come right out and say "The Demiurge is the origin of evil," but Yaltabaoth is shown to be ignorant, arrogant, and malevolent and his creation is flawed.https://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/apocryphonjohn.html
>>41692753What you don't seem to grasp is that these myths describe what's going on within your own soul, and thus within the macrocosmic world-soul that mirrors it, as it proceeds through various alchemical transformations. There is no second will competing with the one will of God. So the strife within your soul (and world) does not imply any strife within the mind of the One, which is transcendentally perfect and unified.
>>41692033It's not about my suffering, is about the whole world, the ways we have of living, the need of eating each other to survive, the evil that ignorance produces, you cant not think that something is wrong with the universe
>>41692056It is not for man to know the extent of his own karma or that of others. Restricted by his narrow consciousness and the limitations of a three dimensional existence; he cannot hope to know all of the intricate complexities of the karmic patterns that have been created by man’s actions. It is best for man simply to trust that karma will work itself out for the benefit of all souls, and to occupy himself with service to his brother.
OK guys.Heaven: Divine utopia.Earth is Heaven.Earth is divine because God made it and that's what that word means.It's a utopia because God made it with no lack of power or knowledge.All your complaints are just you being wrong about something due to ignorance.You were always in heaven.You're in heaven now but you don't know it so you're not.Is that simple enough?I don't know how much easier it could be.
>>41692127This human form is merely a circumstance that has been met with, just something stumbled into, but those who become humans take delight in it nonetheless. Now the human form during its time undergoes ten-thousand transformations, never stopping for an instant - so the joys it brings must be beyond calculation. Hence the sage uses it to roam and play in that form which nothing ever escapes, where all things are maintained. Early death, old age, the beginning, the end - this allows him to see each of them as good. People may try to emulate him as their model, but how much more it would be to bind oneself equally to each and all of the ten-thousand things, to let oneself rely on each transformation, on all transformation. Embody the endlessness and roam where there is no sign, fully living through whatever is received from Heaven without thinking anything has been gained, thus remaining a vacuity, nothing more. The Utmost Person uses his mind like a mirror, rejecting nothing, welcoming nothing, responding but not storing. Thus he can overcome all things without harm.
>>41692127Enlightened Christian Buddha here.Basically, here's how enlightenment works:1) God is smarter than you and is powerful enough to make anything happen or not happen.2) God is gooder than you.3) Since 1 and 2 are true, whatever happens to you is the best possible outcome.4) Suffering occurs when you do not know this and being wrong "argue with God" by not liking something, and so you suffer.Make sense?There you go, now throw in heaven being internal Biblically and God being within you and the world being perfect and you have it, Nirvana, you're welcome.
>>41692127Do not disturb yourself by picturing your life as a whole; do not assemble in your mind the many and varied troubles which have come to you in the past and will come again in the future, but ask yourself with regard to every present difficulty: 'What is there in this that is unbearable and beyond endurance?' You would be ashamed to confess it. And then remind yourself that it is not the future or what has passed that afflicts you, but always the present, and the power of this is much diminished if you take it in isolation and call your mind to task if it thinks that it cannot stand up to it when taken on its own.
>>41692867The mind is always in peace until disturbed by self-inflicted thought. Change your thoughts, change your life.
>>41693198Change implies strife. The perfect has no need of change. No need of duality in general.
