I still can't bring myself to accept that immortality is fake. I can't bring myself to accept that I am an alive creature and will eventually die. I am so incredibly fucking scared of non-life. Not even the dying part, just the "We have no idea what the fuck happens after".Can someone give me a revelation here? Something I can do to have a spiritual experience? Quick astral projection? Quick communication with a spirit? Anything to help alleviate the fear? I'm begging for pretty much any sort of proof right now. I really just do not want to have to come to terms with the finality of it all.
Dunno but ghosts are real, some ghosts don't even realise they're dead, they just continue their daily routines like nothing happened
>>41721738Why?
>>41721749I've had paranormal experiences before.To this day I remember a dream I had 5 years ago where I tried to see "god" and a pair of eyes stared deep into my soul. It made me actually fear for my life and woke me up at 3:30 in the morning. I only managed to go to bed like an hour after.Also seen "ghosts" some times, but I haven't had any paranormal experiences in years.I'm just tired of thinking it was either just hallucinations or something my brain made up. I want something that's actually undeniably REAL for once
>>41721757Not knowing is scary.It's really really scary having to come to terms with being a living conscious being. I don't like life's rules, and I particularly don't like that by being born, you are destined to die.
The second best way is to have a psychic read you. The first best way is to become psychic yourself.
Sometimes it feels like life is inherently evil. You are FORCED to eat some form of life to survive. Be it plant, animal, bug, etc.Every complex lifeform depends on destroying other life to sustain theirs.It's evil. It's an evil system.
>>41721809Any ideas how I'd accomplish this? Preferably in a way that isn't bullshitting it
>>41721738I never understood why this bothers people.I mean, I return to that same void every time I goto sleep.I was that before I existed.What's so bad about it?
>>41721814Not really, an apple for example (a venus plant) is not harmed when animals eat its fruit, it relies on the animals to spread its seeds and the animals receive food in return so it's a mutually beneficial relationship
>>41721820You're already psychic but don't know it. Just train yourself to become aware of it. There are lots of psychics around who teach it.
>>41721738Remember that entire time that happened before you were born? Death is like that. You have been not alive for a lot longer than you have been, this is just a small interruption in the eternal comfiness of nothingness.
>>41721898If time is truly infinite, you'll be back. That's how big infinity is.
>>41721771There is nothing to be scared of my child All you have to do is trust me that everything will be ok
>>41721898https://youtu.be/zK1mLIeXwsQ?si=rCTy672UGPH8bgpN
>>41721961The experience of eternity is not like people imagine it or how science communication videos put itIts not an "endless amount of linear time" that not eternity, its not that infinity is so big it repeat itself, you are thinking about it like a human in 3 dimensionsEternity is everything all at once, its not "endless time" its not time
>>41721738Why would you be afraid of it? When did God not take care of you?Try doing DMT perhaps. It will make sense.
>>41721738Sometimes I dread falling asleep, but only a little. I want to do things still, but I'm tired and I fall asleep. Then I time travel and wake up hours later. Death could be like that, without waking up. I don't know what is better or worse, I certainly don't want to end up in hell for eternity, in whatever religions' hell. Even nonexistence sounds better than that. Heaven, and it's versions sound better, but which one is real? I have to be there for eternity? Won't it get boring eventually?What if I'm reborn immediately as another man, as an animal, or reborn 5000 years later. None sounds good. Maybe being reborn as a bird of prey, free to roam the skies, no predators bigger than me, that sounds fun.I get scared if this sometimes as well, but there is still time. You walk out the door tomorrow and a car could flatten you. Can't be thinking about that all the time either. It is inevitable - death, not the car.This is the only thing in the world that is a 100% certain, a constant point, is that the living will die in time. Whatever happens, will pass. It can be even comforting, depending on your mood and worldview.
>>41721738just think of non-living as sleeping. and then enjoy life while awake. real simple
>>41722010>Try doing DMT perhaps. It will make sense.care to share any further insight on this? never done it, but i've heard tell of similar stories about how it erases your fear of dying.
>>41722042>i've heard tell of similar stories about how it erases your fear of dying.Even shrooms and acid will do that. It flips you into something close to spirit form which is basically death. You can't be scared of something you feel right now.
>>41722042Try it, you are soo close now Paul, you shall become the Kwisatz Hederach unironically
>>41722078>>41722157my mind is so expansive psychedelics have always intimidated me. in a good frame of mind with a trusted provider, i’m sold. i’ve felt brushes and glimpses of the other side, but never looked around and felt myself there as i do in this reality. On the flip side, my dreams are too convincing every single night. I wake up feeling like reality is the dream.
>>41722234shrooms or acid or dmt, do it you will feel better and you will understand that death thing
>>41722234My recommendation would be plain psylocybin shrooms, nothing fancy3 grams, you will be ok, eat 1 gram first until you feel it then eat the restIt will be mellow
>>41722264>3 options again, unrealized, but i know there’s huge differences between those 3i’ve heard/seen/read VERY compelling shit regarding shrooms. which order to u prescribe me in particular, Mr. Doctor? DMT or shrooms?if shrooms, particulate :D>>41722288appreciate this, glad i refreshed before posting. prob is i don’t really have a trusted psychedelic plug. what kinda group / individual would be a trusted (((safe))) provider for this shit? red necks? occult?
>>41721738The big trick is to get you to identify with the "creature". It's a ghost story. all you have to do is look under the sheet. there is nothing.Looking under the sheet is scary and difficult, maybe even scarier then what you're afraid of now. But it's the MUCH more beneficial option.Transcendental meditation might help.
>>41722264Or it screws up your mind forever.
>>41722327It wont
>>41722288also, what’s the duration of your recommendation? psylocybin shrooms…is it like a 2 hr thing, 8 hr thing? 15 min?i’m acquainted with pills. help me out. and what’s a good price for this stuff so i don’t get ripped? thank you in advance
>>41722334>it won’t so it’s 100% positive
>>41721738"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life." (John 3:16)"And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned." (Mark 16:15-16)I have had personal experiences that convince me of the truth of Christianity, but it's not a guaranteed thing / I have no idea why I've had the experiences I did (I am a vile sinner). Just pray the rosary daily for faith with an open heart. Offer your submission to God and pray for a sign.
>>41721738Know this anon, WE DO KNOW what happens after death. It's HELL, the ONLY after-life IS Hell. Hope that brings you comfort. It should be comforting to know you will not be lied to in the after-life unlike you are in this one. I hope. Remember anon, it is HELL. Everyone who dies goes to hell. It's the only possibility of an after-life that makes sense and is proven to exist. Now THAT being said, still there should be NO doubt in your mind that when you die you will go to hell.
>>41721738In a way you are dead right now. Reality is a hallucination/dream. You are a unique individual consciousness having that dream. Consciousness is divine and eternal and the only real thing. Everything impermanent is not real. The core essence of “you” is retained after death of the holographic meat suit. You can come to understand what is really you through dedicated meditation and/or psychs. God is the creator of individuality not the annihilator. You are a thoughtform of god.
>>41721738>I am so incredibly fucking scared of non-life.Don't worry, its not the case so enjoy your borderline eternal suffering, conformist cattle
>>41722386>John 3:16 God does not have “one son”, god has infinite creations. Jesus was an advanced entity who chose to incarnate on Earth on this timeline. There are infinite worlds and infinite parallel realities. Christians are going to be insufferable when the ayys land soon. >god wants you in a state of submissionGod IS his creations, why would he want to be submissive to himself?
If you follow Christ you will be given eternal life
>>41722539>no eternal heaven for those tribes living harmoniously in nature away from religious doctrine>no eternal heaven for those unfortunate folks born before Christ existed>sadistic child rapist murderer began following Christ on death row is rewarded with eternal bliss
>>41722359Meeh basically, shrooms are safe lsd maybe not so much but some shroomies will be good
>>41722532Got a source on that bro? I trust the Bible and the Catholic Church more than you>>41722554>no salvation for isolated tribesinvincible ignorance is a thing, you're not going to be damned because you never heard the Gospel>no eternal heaven for those unfortunate folks born before ChristJesus descended to Hades specifically to offer salvation to these people>sadistic child rapist murderer began following Christ on death row is rewarded with eternal blissYes, if he is baptized and confesses. He'll probably spend a long time in purgatory though.
>>41722345Ive gotten dry up shrooms, cubensis, in glass jar with a nice label, 3.5 gramsI would not eat the 3.5 all at once Maybe eat 1 gram wait an hour and maybe eat another or 2 depending on how you feel
>>41721738you gotta overcome the fear yourself lil nigga, we can't help you here
The shrooms are dried and whole so you will have to eyeball it unless you have a gram weight
>>41722554r/atheism is down the hall to the right
>>41722567>sourceI deduced it myself. Some people are born thinkers and able to arrive independently at truth. Some people are talented dancers and artists. Some people are gifted athletically. Institutions are a TRAP.
>>41722599So your source is that you made it up?
>>41722567>i trust bunch of pedophiles, atheists and satanists
>>41722659>appeal to authorityGood goy
>>41722567>purgatory>i trust the biblePick one
>>41722539Actually you will just be given a respawn that favors Christianity so it's less likely you will go to something degenerate.
>>41721738This isn't meant to be a blackpill, but consciousness has no value. You'll be fine in the end.
>>41721738immortality isn't fake tho, there are animals that have eternal youth
>>41722719Think of consciousness as training wheels for the soul, you're supposed to ditch it eventually.