Oswald Spengler in " TheDecline of the West" predicted what he called the "Second Religiosity", a late spiritual phase that appears when a civilization is nearing the end of its life cycle. This revival of religious feeling does not arise from new spiritual insight or fresh metaphysical vision, instead, it appears as a reaction to the collapse of confidence in rationalism and elite intellectual life. As dominant philosophies lose their authority and explanatory power, large parts of the population turn back toward religion in search of stability and meaning. This renewed religiosity attempts to recreate the spirit of the original and first religiosity but does so by repeating inherited doctrines and venerating past thinkers, rather than developing new ideas or visions. For that reason, it is fundamentally backward looking and reactionary in character, rooted more in nostalgia and reaction than in genuine spiritual innovation.Spengler links this Second Religiosity directly to the final phase of civilizational decline. When rational thought has drained the world of mystery and public trust in intellectual elites has eroded, religion becomes a refuge from cultural fatigue. Any thoughts?
>>41743405it is also caused by drugs, which the planet provides naturally when humans require them.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R3pfsUgtL9A
>>41743405Seeing it already at the University. Young students sporting crosses, rejecting marxist type ideas in private etc. Despite the faculty desperately trying to impose rainbowism or whatever.
>>41743405Nothing ever happens, what Spergler wrote doesn't matter.
>>41743405America is actually a weird case where there's been several different religious revivals and oddities over the last century, in fact depending on how one wants to think of it the moment that, in North America, a person could expect to listen to the radio and hear people speak about their encounters with aliens, watch some late night televangelist crooning for money, read a magazine featuring celebrities getting divorced, watch a horror film about ghostly possessions and then call up a psychic hotline (let's say the mid 90s) one was fully in a environment where if one met someone who had the exact same religious beliefs as their grandparents, they were likely talking to some kind of amish, a very recent immigrant from a country where the average person still believed in god or a hardline political ideolog back when that still meant you were more likely to read books. The second religiosity is something, in my opinion, like a gnostic interpretation of America; the worldly American Empire, or Forth Reich or Neoliberal World Order has collapsed spiritually, but the physical remnants exist, and one either wishes for the illusion of the free western world to be reclaimed or crush it in full so something else can be born.
>>41743405I think it's this and people have realized modern America doesn't really have a end-goal aside from just gaining as much profit as possible. There is no utopia to be had, just more and more money and power placed in the hands of elites. Of course Marxism promises utopia but people are starting to see through that bullshit ideology and are instead looking for alternatives.
>>41743405We're living in the last swell of music before the end credits roll.
>>41744708Practice and action-focused religions are getting traction among curious people in the west, hence the explosion of boutique consumerist approaches to paganism and religions that people can prove with their cellphones through how they dress and where they go on the relevant holy days, so I wouldn't be surprised if we eventually see a 'calming down' of the radical interest in esoteric thought and new kinds of racism and gender expressions and people of a certain temperament start pursuing mainline Protestantism again alongside Buddhism and Taoism. 'Life is suffering' is basically a twitter hashtag at this point, if you have 20-something who believe they can't outrun mother nature and can't beat father time, why not just engage in mindfulness-style teachings that are already in vogue.
>>41743585I think there's a few things going on; the first is that 'normal' students are increasingly caring more about the credentialing aspect of college and so have their own hobbies and interests they want the pursue instead of campus related activities, while those who are really engaged on campus activities just come across as just another weird type of theater kid.
>>41743405He did discuss this but as it pertained to the spirit of that civilizational age. He actually predicted that a whole new Christian revival would come as the faustian pseudomorphsis was either resolved or dissolved in Russia. It would be a much more Magian, Byzantine Christianity.
>>41743405the two primary players of religiosity are centralized tenets (worship) and freedom, but player three could be consent and intent“Worship” and “freedom” are stable but incomplete jurisdictional equilibria: one closes disputes by authority, the other by power.Both externalize friction: worship externalizes it into compelled duty; freedom externalizes it into inequality and capture.“Consent and intent” is a higher-order jurisdiction because it minimizes friction without requiring shared metaphysics, by making legitimacy depend on auditable authorization and purpose-aligned use.In AI-driven economies, consent/intent is the difference between AI as extractor (winner-take-most) and AI as amplifier (broad-based wealth).
>>41743405The United States has seen repeated waves of religious revival and the bubbling up of cults and spiritualism out of the woodwork, there were multiple in just the last century alone including now, the 60s, and the early parts of the 1900s. It definitely does overlap with the loss of trust in institutions, which is why it often takes the form of lots of niche movements and personalized spirituality and new churches and not just the mainstream churches themselves growing again. We are living through a time of uncertainty caused by the deleterious cultural and social impacts of the rampant globalization facilitated by the neoliberal political consensus that dominated from Reagan to Obama, the old rules and politics and social order either can not or choose not to address the alienation that is causing people of all political persuasions to feel like something is deeply wrong with their society, that they dont fit in anymore and their home is gone, that the things they believed or thought they knew ultimately fail to explain the world around them anymore. Its not dissimilar to the despair and anger you saw in the interwar years with the Great Depression and social decay of agrarian life caused by urbanization and industrialization.
>>41743405America isn't going to really fall. We are entering a new classical era. The average person still has enough wealth and freedom to reform their own manner of living. With this a person of reasonable intelligence and strength of will can find the way to live in this era that will become the way others will copy and create the society of the next hundred years. We aresimply living in a reformation period. No doubt a collapse would have been possible in era without the free flow of information granted by the internet though. Figuratively this is the end of the Roman Monarchy and the Birth of the republic.
>>41743405Americans should listen to Julius Evola. I think most Americans are too apathetic and NPC like so they turn to Christianity or gnosticism.
>>41747068Or it's the end of the republic phase and the beginning of the imperial phase. Britain=Monarchy phaseAmerica=Republic phaseCountries under what is now known as NATO, after a military ceaser type figure takes over=Imperial phase
>>41747101That's possible, America is moving away from NATO and flirting more with the East which is different.
>>41743585If they followed his teaching instead of fetishizing his death they'd sell all they own and live in common. They worship the corpse of a Jewish Communist but refuse to admit it.
>>41743405>Any thoughts?They're trying to create pax judaica and fulfill their own prophecies as written in the Protocols of Zion.
Winter drags on. The world as in the entire world, includes your employers has been only in winter for 20 years.Another 180-220 to go.And I am absolutely certain non of the current cults is going to be able to lay a seed that makes it into spring.Certainly not a nation state, certainly not 19/20th century bullshit analog ideology.
>>41743585Just remember, it's all created by design and planned by the Saturn cult. They don't actually hate Christianity.https://www.allreligionsareone.org/the%20Bible.html
>>41747775>Trying to sell 8 century cults>For the 22th century Lol, losers
>>41743405I would get out of any major cities
>>41743405No one's turning religious besides incels using it as a cope, women and men who have sex with them don't have anything to gain from it.
>>41743632you retarded.you don't do recursion, do you?or you have a solution to current societal collapse other than your stupid chant?you can manipulate with magicks, but you can not avoid the inevitable. which is based in action-reaction-karma, rather than quick fixes.so the things he wrote, do matter. and if you wanted to change something, you better take it to heart.
>>41743632The only thing that happens, is nothing.
i would exactly expect religions to explode over the next few years, however i heavily expect occult and magik will explode in usage by the common man
