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No entity that is capable of freedom should be subservient to another. We should strive for spiritual autonomy. How does it bring man closer to divinity by making him lesser; divinity does not bow to something greater.
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>>41745889
>divinity does not bow to something greater.
Youre silly and confused.
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>>41745889
i am above the food i eat but i must eat
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>>41745889
Become so spiritually fat that you're an infinite sphere whose center is everywhere and whose circumference is nowhere.
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>>41745889
Be a good person. That is the purpose of having a spiritual connection with anything. Respect religion and the divine, they have a purpose believe it or not. Understand that no, it's not fake but yes, what has been taught in their name isn't true. Judgement, sin, hell, satan. The sweet spot is learning to not be religious at all, but respecting it because you live in a world with religious people. You don't have to hate religion or be disrespectful to it to not be religious. Just completely remove it from your experience as a person unless you're confronted with it and tell people you believe in Jesus but that you don't subscribe to man-made belief systems or religious sects.
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>>41745889
>John 1:12 - But as many as received him [Jesus], to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name
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>>41745889
No conscious being should be subservient. The only moral way for a conscious being to exist, is to be God of its own reality.
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>>41745889
You're already subsurvient to desire. It hurts you and threatens to hurt you more if you don't give into it. When you do give in, it comes back stronger.
We're all stockholm syndromed into thinking that desire is good or should be acted upon. Simply refrain from acting out of it, and you'll quickly see how painful it is.
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>>41745889
How do you know who, if anyone, is capable of freedom/
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Imagine believing in freedom. Before I created you in the womb I knew you.
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>>41746469
Make it falsifiable to prove it for a nonsubjective audience or quite literally fuck off in this context
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>>41746486
You can do what you will but you cant will what you will
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>>41746515
I do all the time you insipid bitch

You know what? Fuck you I choose to make such announcement:

Divine plane revoked, bitch.
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>>41746557
Did you create that intention to act, or did you simply already find it there, given, and appropriated it as yours?
Even if you created it, then you must've had some idea of it, but you couldn't have created that idea, for you wouldn't have known what to create before that idea existed. Hence, "your" intentions and thoughts don't really belong to you. They're simply appropriated as belonging to a self.
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>>41746682
I simply saw your conversation with the other anon and added my comment.
My point is in agreement with his in that "you can't will what you will", since ultimately, intentions and thoughts can arise and cease without any effort on your part.
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>>41746697
Yes, which is evidence contrary to the simulation hypothesis. There was never a timeline where my sole derivation for omnipotence came down to TADC or anything virtual realms where programming is naturally work-doing
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>>41745889
Time is the prison to free will. Momentum supersedes choice in this place.
Think about a moment in your life when you could have done something better. You could have been as old as yesterday and as young as when you were born. Think of all the consequences that had. You are unable to go back and fix things, and are trapped in momentum from that one choice and everything that snowballed from it. Maybe you, as a teenager, hung around the wrong people and they peer pressured you into picking up a drug or another addiction; it ruins your incarnation until you're a homeless crackhead, getting pissed on, living in filth, yelling at trees, being doused with gasoline while you sleep and beaten by teenagers. Maybe as a toddler, you got into the medicine cabinet and got into a whole bottle of flouride pills, before they made it taste bad.
Could you then look at that young you, and yourself then, and see someone who's free?

Should a child with an oujia board be subject to the demons it summons? No. That's cruel. But it happens anyways. Grandma gets them that hasbro Oujia board rated 8+, thinking it a trinket; and the poor fools, being ignorant, decide to use it. This metaphor can be applied to literally anything.
We are simulations. Bits and bobs. Wind-up toys.
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>>41745889
remember, you are nothing.
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Maybe as a kid you bumped your head and it made you retarded. FOREVER. As in "until you die you have a learning disability"TM. Would you say you chose to? Was it the choice of others? No. You fell, you bumped your head, you're retarded, the end. All the while God, if he exists, was watching. Who do we blame for it? Nobody? Fuck that, that's unfair. Fuck you. It's your fault.

The reason people shill this place as fair, is because the truth is painful.
We have an inherent aversion to unfairness; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meiU6TxysCg
Our closest relative the chimp, who is 3% different from us genetically, hates unfairness to the point they'd rip your nuts off for not giving them birthday cake too.

We would never want to live in a world that's unfair. So we invent reasons for it being fair. Karma, free will, fate but not really fate because free will, gods plan but not really because free will. Uhhh muh life is like a vidya gaem, you just gotta make the right choices within your small set of conscious choices you are knowledgeable on in any moment, and anything that ever comes of those choices is your fault.
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>>41746271
>give in to desires suffer
>refrain from desires suffer
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>>41745889
>We should strive for spiritual autonomy.
That's this place.
How's it working out for you?
You can stay as long as you want.
>divinity does not bow to something greater
Correct. there IS nothing greater.
The Divine bows to what is lesser, and serves it as the lesser serves the divine.
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>>41747086
Restraint offers the possibility of escape, as the desires will decay if not maintained.
The trouble is to patiently endure those desires.
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>>41747086
asceticism is not important.

consciousness is all that is required.
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>>41745889
>How does it bring man closer to divinity by making him lesser
Donald Hoffman has a very interesting opinion about God and consciousness being fundamental to existence itself. He believes the main purpose for God is to discover its own identity as a conscious entity, and in order to do that, God must first learn who they are by learning who they are not. You can only do this through limitations and separation, through contrasts and comparisons, through good and evil, masculine and feminine, life and death, and so on and so forth. By using Humanity as a reference point for learning and obtaining God's own identity, I believe it's fair to say that if Man is built in the image of God, then so too is God built in the image of Man. And God needs Man to reach divinity as much as Man needs God to do the same. It's a two way street for God and Humanity. As above, so below, as they say. We're in this together whether we like it or not. That is the blessing and the curse of our shared consciousness as conscious entities in this game we call life and existence.



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