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Welcome to the Semen Retention General!
Cleansing Edition!

>What is Semen Retention?
Semen retention is the practice of completely abstaining from masturbation and ejaculation, often with the intention of preserving and redirecting vital and sexual energy to oneself.

>Why do it?
Reported benefits include: increased vitality, mental clarity, reduced stress, increased motivation, increased energy, improved focus, healthier hair/skin/eyes, deeper meditation, improved AP/Lucid Dreams, deeper voice, improved mood, greatly improved testosterone, improved physical strength and many more.

>Wet Dreams?
They happen because you had a sexual dream and you coomed. Learn to be conscious on your dreams and stop the succubus.

>What causes wet dreams?
The causes are many: Illnesses, telepathic bad actors fucking with your dreams, excess energy build up, watching too much sexually-inducing stuff, lusting during the day, lack of an adequate transmutation activity, eating too late at night, excess nutrients overall, stimulants like maca, ginseng, ginger, excess protein, excess carbs, tight clothes (pajamas) for bedtime, bad sleeping posture (this varies, find the one that suits you best), going to bed with full bladder, exposure to hormonal disruptors via food (pesticides...) or body care products (soap, deodorant etc)...

Previous Thread >>41729805
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>In case of urges:
- https://imgur.com/a/nofap-anecdotal-evidence-g4eGH
- Don't peek and Hold your breath for as long as you possibly can. The urge usually pass after that. If not, repeat.
- Horse stance or chair pose: Do it while clenching the abdomen and all legs' muscles, raise arms for extra blood flow redirection. Works both for killing erections or urges.
- Any physical activity.

On long clean streaks many report benefits that transcend current science like a sort of "magnetism" or higher "vibration/aura" that attracts/appeals to other living beings, a higher perception, a stronger and intimidating "aura/presence", a deeper connection with nature, an attractive BO (people usually report it as "pheromones") and more.

>Advices:
- Mental Purity 1.1: Semen Retention acts as a bio-electromagnetic amplifier. Watch the quality of your thoughts because your inner state will get amplified and manifested. Lust is the Ojas killer. Do not engage with Lust.
- Mental Purity 1.2: Keep a journal as a tool for introspection.
- NEVER watch porn of any kind.
- Remove triggers from your life. Masturbation is a bad habit. Break that bad habit.
- Focus on achieving a goal. An art, a craft, competing, etc.
- Meditate and/or Pray Daily. Try a minimum of 5 minutes to start off.
- Exercise/Gym/Sports/Martial Arts. If it is something social even better.
- Good habits like healthy eating, water fasting, dry fasting, sun exposure and cold showers do seem to speed up the process.
- Sublimation: literally using the energy.
- Transmutation: changing the quality of energy to something different. (Surya Namaskara, 8 brocades, Tibetan rites)
- Avoid stimulant drugs such as caffeine or adderall
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Keep in mind that the efferent nerves attached to your testes necessarily means that any lustful thought, image, or sound is necessarily a command to your junk to produce sexual fluids and this is the reason why celibacy is first and foremost of the mind
The root of this entire matter is the mind - without conquering the mind, celibacy is a futile effort
The signals from the brain happen on the subconscious autonomic level
This is why any lustful thought, image, or sound is necessarily a command to the sexual organs to produce sexual fluids (the more intently you look, the higher amplitude of a signal gets sent: body > afferent nerves > brain > efferent nerves > body)
Therefore "Conversion of sexual energy to something" is necessarily a HORRIBLY inefficient process (Not to confuse with Sexual Transmutation)
Fluids will be reabsorbed, but the energy and materials cost to make it vs how much is "taken back" via reabsorption is SEVERELY unbalanced and super net negative
Sexual fluids are made from the cream of the crop of the body's resources - constantly generating them means that you are constantly draining away the cream of the crop of your resources.
Taoist writings said that the sexual organs will even take primacy over nourishing your other internal organs at some point. (Thus, doing a spiritual practice as a coomer is a surefire way to die faster).

Scientific evidence and interesting reads
https://pastebin.com/q4rLprGs
https://pastebin.com/qbTd4Lai
https://pastebin.com/dzA2yCdr
https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/rebooting-accounts/rebooting-accounts-page-1/
https://www.acupuncture.com/education/points/kidney/kid1.htm
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It’s always good to remember why /x/ is the most accurate place for this topic: SR is one of the clearest paranormal inducing topics among all discussed on /x/. It’s a sacred practice that has been the one of the main focuses in every major religion or spiritual practices. The mystical side of it is what we try to focus on.
SR can be also be seen as a political issue. The porn industry is a tool made by the Jews to deteriorate and corrupt societies. Porn works in ways that program new sets of behaviour in its audience and because of its strong addictive qualities they stay hooked. The most important goal for porn’s male audience was and is the release of their semen. As we now know, the disadvantageous consequences of releasing are heavy: a man becomes less of a man, he gets sick and weak, his mind numbed, he will have impotence issues etc. Upto the point his spirit almost dies.
SR is beneficial to make one healthier and stronger, more fit, if you will. So the topic could be discussed on /fit/. Anyone looking for more ways to get fitness gains would benefit hugely from the SR.
Also SR has so many other benefits that it could be discussed in the /adv/ board. These would be topics how it improves one’s social life, mental state, makes more time to be more productive etc.

The biggest benefits of SR are mystical in nature and the whole practice is fundamentally very close to the spiritual side of things. All the other topics in /x/ are left far behind and SR actually makes this board of any relevancy. This is also known by the enemy and they make strong efforts to suppress, hijack, twist to end this discussion.
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# # # THREAD HYGIENE PSA # # #

Starve the shillery.
No attention for them.
No replies.
Focus.
On.
The.
Prize.

(Pro tip > Hide shill posts: Click on the arrow next to the post number, click 'Hide', Comfy.)
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REMINDER TO MEN OF YOUTH AND POWER

This general is most frequented by the weak, the incels, the decrepit old fucks. These people have no chance at having soulful relationships with women, they are impotent, and they wish to spread their state of BROKENNESS to YOU.

Notice just how much bitching about women occurs here. For most of these people, they have no choice; No woman is approaching them in the first place. Their main barrier is porn, and masturbation. Why do they talk about women so much? Because they are resentful little incels. They use this place to cope, pretending theyre above normal healthy relationships.

Pure celibacy is not a natural state for a young man. The male sexual power is monstrous, it is supposed to be used. You WILL continue on a cycle of retain/relapse forever. Celibacy, and renunciation wrecks the body. You are not a literal buddhist monk. You are a part of society, it's time to participate.

When you are a young man, you are SUPPOSED to go out and fuck women. No matter how much you tell yourself you're a "based retooner", you know in your heart if a woman approached you and was down to fuck, you'd do it. And that's fine! Do it. There's nothing worse, than wasting your youth with pathetic 4chan cope, then growing old and bitter about your lost spirit, and then becoming a demon that hates the youth.

OBVIOUSLY, it goes without saying, DO NOT WATCH PORN. It'd be far more honest if this general focused on the evils of porn. A bunch of 4chan degens, on a coom recovery thread. Do not be fooled by their LARPs of spiritual ascendance, they are wolves in sheeps clothing, too incel to fuck women, they masturbate to their sense of self righteousness all day.

Go out, fuck beautiful women with tight bodies, have loving relationships. Or rot away here, repressing your desire, only to relapse and become even more of a degenerate coomer. Choice is yours. You've been warned.
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Evangelical bullshit
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>>41749170
kys
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>>41749178
cry
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>>41749178
Do not speak such foul words, fren. These baiters fish for these kind of replies. All you do is desecrate your own soul in the process, as theirs is already desecrated. Instead you should show them love and peace of mind. Even a "Jesus loves you" makes them feel bitter.

If you refuse to do this, then just follow this advice >>41749151

Stay pure.
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I’m on day 23. How long should I not coom? Should I practice qiqong? How do I reabsorb my semen? Should I also drop weed? Thanks! WAGMI
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>>41749185
> All you do is desecrate your own soul in the process
You create coom recovery threads on 4chan and you're a namefag. If that wasnt enough, you LARP as something you're not, and have deluded yourself into believing that you're an advanced being.
Your soul is in a part of hell even god's light cant reach.
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>>41749224
Your semen is meant for 1 thing only and that's procreation. There are several methods (among qiqong) listed above in the 2nd and 3rd post on how to transmute and allow your body to secrete properly.
>Should I also drop weed?
Yes, especially now that all the strains are being altered to have an improper balance (for example THC/CBD). Aside from that you can read over here https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32356125/ that it most likely affects the process. I've experimented on myself and noticed that wet dreams are more difficult to control/cancel on weed (I think I can assume you can imagine why). It also affects your hormones, which is something that fluctuates during SR. A bit incoherent advice maybe, but if you take this information and do a little research I'm sure you'll figure it out.

You will definitely make it.
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SRG is possibly the only consistently based General across the entirety of this cursed website. Godspeed, retooners.
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>>41749170
Again this success larper here. Imagine coming to threads you really hate. Fucking loser. Kike faggot.
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>>41749170
Isn't the point of SRG to not watch coomer porn and fap but use the energy to yes have relationships and sex with women because you don't waste energy?
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Day 25, I have an energy boost and feel emotionally WAY more stable. How long for the rest of the benefits? The attraction, the deep voice etc.
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>>41749580
>no da jooz want me to have loving relationships with women reee
fucking retard kek
>>41749713
Yes. You shouldnt be too lustful, but its definitely better than cooming to the type of filth that the average retard here inevitably relapses to
At it's highest level, you have intimate relations with your beloved, without ejaculating, and in doing so, you quite literally become one with the divine.
Unfortunately, this space has been taken over by incels who use it as a way to cope
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>>41749713
No, that's NoFap.
At SRG we understand that all forms of Onanism, whether with a partner or not, are detrimental.
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>>41750255
That image is from a swedish medical report and is only about masturbation. Nothing to do with a man who has sex with his wife.
You're a sexless incel who's never touched a woman before. You're a failed man. Your ego cannot handle your humiliating existence, so you cope by telling yourself these lies. Carry on with your loser existence.
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>>41750313
>only about masturbation
citation needed
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>>41750324
What is there to explain any further about Onanism? It's derived from the story of Onan. Our anti-SR mascot over here deliberately misinterprets to insult you.
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>>41750324
>https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/651AE36A0577DFEC272F91AE0A1F178A/S0018268023000249a.pdf/div-class-title-the-textbook-masturbator-a-renegotiated-discourse-in-official-swedish-sex-education-guidelines-and-textbooks-circa-1945-2000-div.pdf
You should not worry about sex. No woman will willingly have sex with you. Stick to trying not to jerk off to whatever filth you like putting on.
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>>41750340
The fact that it's a biblical story, doesn't change the fact the term is used to refer to masturbation, you dumb incel biowaste.
Do you faggots SERIOUSLY think that image is referring to having loving sex with a wife? How far into your own delusions have you gone?
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>>41750353
I'm glad you agree it's a biblical story, fren. I honestly didn't expect to see such progress so soon. To think we have the rest of the year together. It warms my heart.
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>>41750384
Good boy. Keep giving me "yous". This will no longer be an incel safe space, and you will confront yourself and destroy your delusions.
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>>41750401
Have another 0.15 cents, brother. As long as you stay here with us, I'll give you all the (You)s you need. Although, I'm about to sleep soon, so if you go to sleep as well, we can have our best friend schedule. This way we can have eachother's attention all year.

Good night everyone.
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>>41750401
>This will no longer be an incel safe space,
Oh damn, you're gonna make this into a sexhaver safe place for sexhaving people like yourself
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>>41749170
The point of being an incel is that you are infact not desireable to women, and won't have sex.
What was the point of writing this schizo babble
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>>41749170
what if I am a young incel
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Will Semen Retention make my penis bigger?
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>>41750417
You can carry on with your toxic positive, weak, wolf in sheeps clothing shtick, sneaking in your little underhanded digs because fundamentally you are a coward who is despised by God.

But unfortunately, i've already won this. You told people not to interact with me, now you've betrayed yourself. Every You you give, is you betraying yourself. So carry on. Desecrate your soul for me. Your word means nothing. Good little monkey.
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>>41750426
Men who've gone through normal healthy male development don't need safe spaces. It's only incels, who lead humiliating lives, require copes such as this general where u jack each other off about how self-righteous it is that you're virgin losers and how superior you are, also unironically having the deranged the belief that by simply not touching your penis, you will achieve enlightenment.
Like seriously, think of how ridiculous that is
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>>41750313
It's funny that you say that because there are women who would rather have sex with each other than have sex with you
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>>41750468
>Desecrate your soul for me.
Nigga who the fuck are you
Hahaha suck and choke on my balls you fucking faggot
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>>41750475
>the belief that by simply not touching your penis, you will achieve enlightenment.
Actually that coincides with ancient Buddhist script on eliminating craving and compulsive desire, It's alright, you'll learn.
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>>41750485
No, incel. The buddhists do not believe you reach enlightenment by ONLY not touching your dick.
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>>41750468
>You told people not to interact with me
I believe my exact words here >>41749185 were:
"Instead you should show them love and peace of mind. Even a "Jesus loves you" makes them feel bitter. "

And here you are, feeling bitter. Not my intention really, but sadly it was to be expected. I'd rather have you reject your negative ways and become the light Jesus wants you to be. I believe you can do this.

I will go sleep now and see you tomorrow. This is just the beginning of a long friendship!
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>>41750498
Yes it's one part of it, but you can't see with your 10 tabs of porn open right now
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>>41750507
You're trying too hard. And you've betrayed yourself, again. Keep going. Good little boy. Dont go to sleep. Stay up and seethe.
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>>41750524
>Yes it's one part of it
I accept your concession.
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>>41749897
Ah yes I do agree, having sex and not cooming enhances your kundalini/bonding energy with your partner. I suppose some people view it as strictly no sex where as NO FAP makes more sense. It's hard not to coom with a partner and it's okay if you do, still better than porn/fapping but I agree you should at least practice it. You do get to the point where you are fulfilled by making her feel good and can then sleep without even desiring to coom and always be ready to be there for her.
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I suspect a particular anon here is secretly ravangely gay and wants to steal and swallow all retained seed for himself and suck dick like he's chain smoking cigars
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>>41750530
>You do get to the point where you are fulfilled by making her feel good and can then sleep without even desiring to coom and always be ready to be there for her.
beta energy

>>41750526
>Stay up and seethe.
Just like you're seething about men that don't touch their penis. Idk man, sounds pretty ghey to me
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>>41750530
The issue is, a lot of the real secrets are hidden and require you to seek out a master from a reputed lineage. For example, creating magical children, with great genius and ability.
But yes, unfortunately the incels here will immediately read this and cry about muh validation (meanwhile they play video games for 5 hours a day and have no job).
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>>41750546
>Just like you're seething about men that don't touch their penis. Idk man, sounds pretty ghey to me
That's your incel impotent fantasy. You think there's a secret agenda to make you touch ur penis because you lead a pathetic loser life and these deranged fantasies are the only thing between you and the rope.
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>>41750568
freduian slip
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>blue balls or brain fog
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>>41750580
words have meanings, incel, go learn it
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>>41750593
Apply that to yourself
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>>41750602
>urr durrr no u
ESL retard
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>>41750568
IDK man, you seem to care a lot about what men do with their penis. That's pretty strange brah, you should look into that
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>>41750608
Do you still fantasize about "incel" dick and balls in your mouth?
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>>41750609
gay
>>41750610
extremely gay
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>>41750626
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>>41750626
Do you still think about incels while you "bang your gf".
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>>41750657
Keep talking man. Really. Show us all how ugly your mind is.
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>>41750657
Now it makes sense why he keeps licking her butthole. That salmonella prob got to his brain
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>>41750701
>salmonella
kek
Incel is clueless on sexually transmitted diseases. But i suppose there's no need for you to learn about them is there
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>>41750729
"Yes, Salmonella can be transmitted through rimming (oral-anal sexual contact) via the fecal-oral route. The rectum naturally contains digestive bacteria, and if an infected person's feces come into contact with the mouth, it can lead to illness."

Just FYI
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It’s not the literal retained semen that improves you, it’s the correcting of dopamine imbalance. Like doing drugs, porn and masturbation release immense amount of dopamine, and for zero effort invested. It’s a great way to kill a person.

Stop watching porn.
Stop masturbating.
Engage in strenuous exercise.
Cook your meals.

Every hit of dopamine should be preceded by an investment of effort. This is how you fix your life; mind, body, and soul.
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>>41750450
No, but you’ll stop caring about such an irrelevant detail.
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>>41750546
I'd argue it's beta energy to "NEED TO COOM" than being able to have orgasmic experiences with mind alone and fuck when you want but that's just me!
>>41750560
Well I will argue I learned these things myself with mind kundalini energy (removing need to even COOM) but for others I suppose though you can learn these things within, that's important to never doubt your spirit/true self. I don't call others incels and stuff though, it's difficult to learn truth in a world of lies and deception or contradiction so it's natural to think lee sex = coom and sleep to them, I still think Buddhism middle path is the most powerful tool we have to learn as you learn temporary satisfaction, clinging to outcome. It doesn't say "don't have sex" on the middle path, just shows you the truth once it's not sexual misconduct (fiddlers, sex wit animals, rape, incest etc). Inb4 "monks literally don't sexo" yes but they are not middle path.
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>>41750820
>I learned these things myself with mind kundalini energy
Spiritual waffle. You're not even initiated into a tradition, you cannot begin to comprehend the true secrets. Sorry. This may sound harsh but it's the truth
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>>41750980
What makes you so sure? Buddhism has it's own traditions and language beyond english or earthly understanding. True intention is a language in itself. I have seen all in truth and wisdom.
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>>41750980
That's to say you argue that Buddha is not a master that teaches?
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>>41750667
Oh and that chick you are banging is going to get gangbanged by a pack of sweaty homeless bums and drug addicts and a
start pussy whiping your dumb ass
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>>41750313
>You're a sexless incel who's never touched a woman before. You're a failed man.
Why be so rude? What purpose does that even serve?
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stop feeding the shill. Be greatful that It is so clear in it being evil and wrong.

This thread and the last one was destroyed because of us feeding it.

DO NOT FEED THE SHILLS.
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>>41750437
> won't have sex.
Wrong. The point is you wish to have sex, but can't. This is a pathological mental disease that motivates so much of the incels dysfunctional lives.
>>41750444
Stop watching porn. Stop masturbating. Transmute desire for porn, and masturbation, into desire for real women
Hit the gym, just do things, lead an interesting life. Practise talking to women. Then the women will come to you.
Reject inceldom. Reject hatred of women. Incel women haters always have a number of sexual perversions. Hatred and contempt of women is the root cause of sexual perversions. Women are just like us. If you dont like women, you just dont like the feminine aspects of your Self.
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the most important thing in life is surviving
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Recently went 8 months without cooming. Felt no different before, during, or after. Thoughts?
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I am jorking it
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I’ve been eating junk food the past 2 days and now I’m horny as fuck. I haven’t peaked at porn in a week and have coomed in about a month

The temptation is killing me. What should I do bros
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>>41751542
Perform a plank until that energy is redirected from your loins to your core. After you collapse after holding the plank for as long as you could, you smile.
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>>41750348
The article by 'Sara Backman Prytz' you linked does not seem related to the 1918 Onanist image.
Please try again.
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>>41749185
>namefag tryna make the rules around here
Shut the fuck up and fuck the fuck off.
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>>41751583
You should try and read it again.
Or, even better.
>https://runeberg.org/lakarebok/1390.html
Read the actual book. It clearly demonstrates onanism as referring to only masturbation.
But you know this. Deep down. I can cite the book directly, but you'll find a way to cope. That' s your entire existence.
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>nofap for a year
>it has zero measurable effect on my life, wellbeing, health, or emotions
i thought it was supposed to make me the ubermensch, what happened??
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>>41751609
The image doesn't seem to appear there either, but this text does refer to masturbation only.

If it is consistent with common use of the language at the time, I am curious when the meaning of "Onanism" in Swedish changed meaning from spilling seed in general to just masturbation.
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~Week 7
Urges have remained very strong these last few days. I won't give in, but it's been tough. I am doing this to improve my relations with real life women, and I have to be honest with myself about that. If I somehow met an attractive woman who wanted to hook up with me, I would do it in a heartbeat. Still, I'm staying very productive with things that will help me in that regard as well as things that have nothing to do with it. This lifestyle will continue as long as it has to.
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>>41751699
Onanism has always meant masturbation. No one uses it in the biblical sense. This is obvious to everyone who isn't a sperg.
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>>41749130
I have a genuine question about OP's picrel. Is there a female equivalent of this process/outcome, or is it specific to dick-havers?
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>>41751699
>>41751609
A following chapter 'SEXUELL NEURESTANI' uses the term Onanism to describe non-reproductive sex in the context of marriage.

post >>41750255 is in accordance with the book.
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>>41751815
> Onanism to describe non-reproductive sex in the context of marriage.

If that was true, you'd have copied and pasted the extract.
It's not true, which is why you made this up.
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>>41751801
>Is there a female equivalent of this process/outcome, or is it specific to dick-havers?
Yes actually, it's called not being a harlot and having one LTR partner in their lifetime. I know crazy concept in these times isn't it?
But seriously, I don't think it effects woman at all, because women don't release life giving fluids when they orgasm, but getting rid of lust and sexual immorality benefits both genders regardless
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>>41751829
Wrong as usual.butthole licker.

>All unnaturalness in sexual intercourse punishes both men and women with fatal suffering. All men should understand clearly that artificial infertility is nothing but marital masturbation. Every contraceptive measure harms not only one’s own health, happiness, and future but also causes much suffering for the offspring who may one day be born. Humans are, in every respect, a perfect and purposefully built organism. Every organ in their admirable body structure has its specific function, its precisely predetermined duty to fulfill. The lungs are for breathing, the heart for circulating blood, the stomach for absorbing food and drink, and so on. The function of an organ must in every way correspond to the task assigned to it. To demand from it an activity contrary to this is to abuse it and must lead to pathological changes. If we now transfer this unshakable principle from physiology to sexual life, we must demand that its organs, the male and female sexual organs, fully perform the function assigned to them. Normal coitus must be carried out exactly as the Creator intended. Any change, however clever and carefully considered, in the way sexual intercourse is conducted and performed is an abuse of natural instinct and must therefore lead to pathological changes. In short: sexual intercourse with contraceptives aiming to produce artificial infertility is harmful to health, regardless of which contraceptive method is used.
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>>41751997
Man, that part is so beautifully well-worded, it's impressive.
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I know the following short video is not about SR, but I suggest everyone to watch it and then observe this thread once more. Keep an open mind while watching it, the perspective shown can be applied in multiple ways once you understand it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNu4QeelQA0
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3 days in boys WAGMI

My goal this year is to not masturbate. Not once. Zero porn. I have been a slave to it for 20 years. Not anymore. Pray for me brothers!
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>>41751997
This does not say that onanism = non-reproductive sex. Sure, it says sex is le bed, typical of puritan christfaggotry that plagued those dimwits, but onanism is given far more attention because it fully recognises masturbation is very different to sex. You, a spergy incel, can try all your sperg tricks - the fact remains, sex is nothing like masturbation.
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>>41749291
>>41750340
Jake, you're back. After that disastrous relapse, you're back on your christfag high-horse. But you and I both know you're going to relapse, and sink lower.
It's time to get out of this cycle.
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>>41752622
In Jake's defense I've yet to see him damning other anons to hell because they relapsed or had a sex encounter so that's good on my book, plus he at least makes the effort to improve the OP. And that weed advise was sound also.
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>>41752576
Honestly, I was thinking of using the abbreviation of this name, just like the last one (SSC69, short for SuperSemenCollector69), but I don't think it's as cool. I appreciate your help, but Jake is not my style. You can pick Jake though. Just leave those random letters and numbers out. Looks so weird.
>You are neither the owner nor the moderator of this general
I don't think anyone except you ever thought about this. Either way, what you say is true, as obvious as it is.
>>41752622
Wait, what? Brother, check the archives. I'm not that new. It would've been funnier if you said I was Methuselah, since I missed this Jake-arc.
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>>41750740
you wouldn't be eating anyone's ass if they were already shitting their brains out
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>calls me out
>deletes his post instantly
You criminal mastermind, you!
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>>41751997
>we need more cheap laborers
i mean people should have shame, but thats all
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>>41749170
Notice guys who get pussy still talk shit about women or even abuse or kill them with little consequences from those women. Pic related gets more ass than you'll ever get for posting stuff like this.
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>>41751841
Almost had a wet dream last night, this bitch...
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>>41750475
I don’t practice retention to get a girlfriend or sex. I do this for ME. I do this to soar to new heights. To manifest the life I want for myself and no one else. You wanna touch your peepee? Go right ahead I don’t care. But I refuse. Whatchya gonna do about it? Yeah I thought so. Go goon yourself into a coma. Be gone with ye.
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>>41752776
Pic related warned me of your arrival.
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>>41751342
>Women are just like us.
You don't talk to women because they aren't. Men were built to lead women. You can't lead women if you are lead by desire. If you are lead by desire, women will lead you.

>If you dont like women, you just dont like the feminine aspects of your Self.
This has nothing to do with not liking the feminine parts of yourself. It has to do with emotional reactivity (feminine energy) to external conditions due to undeveloped masculinity.
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>>41752697
LOL this dude also got a bunch of nudes over the mail too.

I remember reading about this guy: https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/josef-fritzl-love-letters-responsible-family-man-new-book-DWzW27_2/

Sorry but men who choose to avoid women despite being born with strong primordial urges to reproduce are simply smart people. And if you can avoid PMO on top of that you must be a god
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Still going strong since halfway through september. This is only the second time I ever hit a streak over 30 days. Last year my longest was 4.5 months, this time im aiming to go all the way. We all gonna make it brothers.

>>41751841
La Luna.
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I can't help keep thinking about how difficult it is going to be resisting the temptation of ai porn in the coming years. Can you imagine how realistic and amazing it will be? Self-inserting into endless hyper realistic sexual scenarios with your own harem of perfect creations. Watching yoursrlf fucking your crush or favourite porn star, even historical figures. You think gooning is bad, imagine how ai will enslave our minds to this kind of crazy shit
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>>41752888
My longest was also 4 and a half months. I know I can do better. This year I'm not going to fap at all. And after that, same thing. Only releasing if I'm married, that's it.
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>>41753088
I can assure you that after 1 year without PMO your post will never again cross your mind, unless someone else brings it up.
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>>41750450
Yes, soft and hard, it will look bigger. Your balls aswell. I found out after a long streak that bitches love big balls
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>>41753088
>Watching yoursrlf fucking
You would feed images/videos of yourself to AI?
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>>41752697
I don't doubt it. But hatred and contempt for women directly leads to sexual perversion.
>>41752805
Wrong. You sound like a sperg who just doesn't get it.
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>>41750757
Have you not made it past the first two months? By the end of month two my flaccid penis was way longer than it normally is. My balls maybe twice as big. Huge looking to me. It DEFINITELY increases size after two months.
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>>41753381
shut up retard
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>>41752405
Logic is difficult for the low-T coomer brain, so let's spell it out for you:
- image of Onanist referencing Swedish book is posted
- you claim the image only applies to masturbation
- the author of that book calls non-reproductive sex Onanism
- therefore the picture applies to Onanists with or without partner.
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>>41753088
>Kids will have endless access to tiktok,ai porn,vr porn etc.
>Their parents are also tiktok,ai porn and vr porn addicts themselves

Is there any hope that that generation coming after Gen Alpha won't all be depressed and suicidal in the 2050s?
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>>41753783
The author does not call non-reproductive sex Onanism. The author calls its "marital onanism".
I realise this is difficult for your sperg brain to comprehend, so let me give you an analogy. Polo and Water Polo are two different things. The "Water" completely changes it. Same way here, the "marital" changes it.
There is a small section concerning sex. Most of the book is about masturbation.
I realise you need it to be true that masturbation is the same as sex. That's because you're a dumb coombrain porn addict degenerate spergy incel and you wished you were on the same level as sexhavers pursuing meaningful relationships. You're not. You're literal biowaste, your purpose in life is to die for the machine. And you will.
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>>41753437
I apologize, my goal wasn't to upset you. The fact is though my flaccid penis is longer and thicker than it was when I ejaculated frequently, and my balls are much larger. I promise its real.
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>>41753853
The fact is you're a faggot
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>>41753847
>dumb coombrain porn addict degenerate spergy incel
Man, your posts brighten my day. I just can't stop chuckling reading them. I love you man. Please, don't you ever leave.
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Don't listen to anyone who tells you it won't increase testicular size, or flaccid length/girth. You must make it at least a month and a half, but it happens. That's what inspired me to keep going most of all.
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>>41753914
I don't see why this particular reason inspires you, but you're correct. My ballsack also feels denser and thicker. Now I understand Al Bundy better.
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Its another blessed day.
>Never Goon.
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>>41753874
Dont worry jake, I won't.
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>>41753914
You are completely deranged. If you've a degen coomer and ur balls are always empty, sure it gets a bit bigger, but thats it. The only explanation for why you people believe the most outlandish rubbish is mental illness.

You think SR is a magic fix-all to your problems, and when that doesn't happen, you fall further than you've ever fallen. Sad!
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>>41753980
Jake Paul or Jake from Drake and Josh? Or another Jake? You have to elaborate a bit more on your mysticism, best buddy.
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>>41754005
Dont worry about mysticism, jake, your christcuck brain wouldnt be able to handle those transmissions. you'd miss it entirely. that's your fate for this life unfortunately. Good luck with the next!
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>>41754019
Fine, I'll be "Jake Paul the 3rd" from now on. I honestly did feel like UltraSemenCollector69 is a bit of an egostretch. Thanks for being there for me.
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>>41754047
It's okay, Jake. You're an excellent loosh supply. Betraying yourself, with every post, don't ever stop.
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>>41754062
Woah buddy, we're not THAT close. I appreciate your love for me though, but God doesn't condone homosexuality and neither do I.
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>>41754067
Another you. Betray yourself again. Go on monkey.
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>>41753377
If you're already attracted to women who are without any doubt perverted from their intended roles what's left to pervert? Life itself has already become perverted and they're all in denial. If a group wants to not be hated besides all of that that then they should try acting less fake, hypocritical and loathsome. Good luck with that though.
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>>41754103
How do I betray myself by doing what I please without disrespecting the Trinity? Is it the 15 cents you receive by my replies? If you want I can donate you money or I could employ you if you need a job.
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My aim is to retain this entire year...my record is 45 days. Good luck to everyone here
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>>41754120
Again. Betray yourself. Another You. Now monkey. You will return to the darkness. Quick. Solve that captcha. And give me your loosh. You are giving me your permission by doing this. Good boy.
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>>41754143
But you're giving me the same You's in return. Fair trades. This is what best friends do.
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>>41754148
Again. Betray your soul. Good boy. You have given me your permission to curse your soul. Do it. Press post.
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I'm currently at a month, give or take but this is an endeavor that has been going on for years. I found it to be necessary because I was becoming the biggest degenerate to walk the earth. I would spend days, literally, jerking off to the point where I got abrasions but even so, I still kept going, high on meth and on a path of finding more novel and disturbing content.

The reason for my conviction is to be free and able to focus on my career. Before I've been too preoccupied, often wasting entire days jerking off for a quick hit, getting comfortable then depressed, after that regaining some confidence and some will. Only for it to disappear, leaving me craving that hit again, an endless cycle of degeneracy.

Found /SRG recently and it has been a fun and educational read, wish the best of luck to the rest of you.
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>>41754157
Brother, the Trinity protects me from all spiritual harm as long as my faith stays strong. Test it as the devil has tried in the past on numerous occasions, but this "tree" shall not bear the fruit you hope. The only thing you shall receive is the love and grace from the Trinity, which I will gladly send your way every day, because I love you.

Bless you and your soul. Christ is King.
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>>41754172
You know what you've done. You'll get exactly what you deserve, nothing less, nothing more. SO MOTE IT BE
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>>41754183
Thanks man. I appreciate the kind words. I hope you'll get some mental stability throughout this year, because your last posts have been a wild ride. At least you finished with something nice. It was probably the Trinity that made you post those exact words.

See how no man can hide from Christ's light?
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>>41754194
See how I exposed you Jake? You have reverted to full-on christcuckery, you tried to rebrand after embarrassing yourself, and now we can see that the bakers of these threads are christfags with no respect for mysticism.

My job is done. Normal guys will do nofap and chase women, christcuck losers, incels and other biowaste will go deeper into their delusions of grandeur before they perish and burn in their own hubris.
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>>41751969
>I don't think it effects woman at all, because women don't release life giving fluids when they orgasm, but getting rid of lust and sexual immorality benefits both genders regardless
The biggest problem with orgasm in the context of a relationship is that it causes habituation.- lower dopamine response each time. This is why couples try to "spice things up" trying new things, because dopamine is all about novelty. It's a losing battle, however, which is why infidelity, porn use, etc. are the norm in marriages. Orgasms cause partners to irritate each other, initiate fights - it's the result of the dopamine and oxytocin falling, the hormones that are the foundation of your feelings of love. Couples who have more frequent orgasmic sex are more likely to break up than those who have less. After some years together nature intends for you to split and seek new partners to spread your genes - this is the evolutionary purpose of sexual habituation.

Anons in this thread should read "Cupid's Poisoned Arrow" which explains this in detail and the methods to avoid habituation, as well as methods to increase bonding with your partner.
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Seriously, someone please tell me the difference between this thread and locking yourself up in chastity?
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>>41754280
Christcucks here have literal cum denial, blue ball, chastity, and self flagellation fetishes. Denying themselves before relapsing deep into degeneracy is all part of their fetish. See here OP >>41752622 .
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>>41754263
I've been very consistent with my faith in the Trinity, which you merely forgot as you keep bringing up Jake. Sounds like this Jake really got to you. I'll gladly be the 3rd Jake, or Jake Paul the 3rd to be exact. Your job is not done, until I say it is done. You will stay here, read my posts and reply to them. We are best friends now, get that through your head.
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>>41754280
Can you be a bit more specific? Your question is quite broad.
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>>41754170
Are you still on meth? I would get that sorted out first!
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The first few days of abstinence are probably the days when one is horniest. I am starting a streak again and I’ve realized that I’m much happier when I’m jerking off. That being said I am not a hedonist and happiness is not the goal. I’ve got a hole in heart and numbing myself with jerking off and pornography is not going to fill it. Til tomorrow
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Astonishing that this thread was completely derailed by one person. This is like the Weener all over again but 10x more annoying.
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>>41753377
This is because your interactions with women are surface level, and / or you have no sense of righteousness whatsoever (due to lack of masculinity). A woman's nature is naturally manipulative and deceitful - if you think disdain for those qualities comes from not being in touch with one's feminine side maybe you're just meant to be a beta.

She explains this well: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mQiBpwqCrig
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>>41754520
Ask yourself why it annoys you. The longer you retain the less you should get bothered by such trivial matters. In fact, you should enjoy them or make use of what is presented.

For example, over here >>41751997 is by far the most beautiful text I've read in the last threads. How did this occur? A certain anon didn't want to heed this advice >>41749151 and engage instead. (I do the same, so I hope you realize I'm not judging) However, without his engagement I wouldn't have found this part.

Ignoring those who derail is for newcomers who need to focus on prize. Eventually you can be unbothered and engage in any way possible. Aside from that, you could've noticed there isn't a lot of answers compared to the questions, which discussions (whether in good faith or not) can provide more answers, as random as they may be.

God works in mysterious ways.
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>>41754540
>more incel slop
You hate women. You resent them. This turns to sexual perversion. This makes you relapse.
As a failed incel male. you ought not to speak about masculinity.
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>>41751997
Yup, exactly. 100% truth. Marriage sex is allowed in God's eyes because it's the acceptance of responsibility. Onanism is simply trying to shirk off that responsibility, and if one avoids responsibility, guess what usually comes after? Suffering.
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>>41754581
I don't hate them because I could care less what they do. But you do. You hang on to every word they tell you because you're a desperate beta who sees women as the gateway to happiness
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>>41754593
Quiet, virgin. Incel virgins like yourself have no right to speak on these matters.
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>>41754581
i hate women and i'm on my longest streak in years
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>>41754605
And you'll relapse soon and fall into an even deeper pit of degeneracy. That's how it goes.
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>>41754605
He is a beta and is already sexually perverted Dude talks all day about licking an imaginary woman's butthole
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>>41754608
You won't understand because your entire existence is driven by need for a woman's approval
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>>41754610
At least he's safe from the imaginary salmonella.
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>>41754612
>muh woman's approval
Notice how this is all you say here. You bring female validation up unprompted where it's irrelevant because that defines your existence, you incel trash. I've gotten female approval and have moved on. It's incels like you who've never experienced the warmth of a woman, that have to cope, telling yourself how little you care. Its obvious that you do in fact care, and how deeply mindfucked you are because you're a failed male, hated by God.
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>>41754608
very rude of you to wish me that
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>>41754626
>You bring female validation up unprompted where it's irrelevant because that defines your existence, you incel trash.
KEK, you really don't see the irony of this statement?
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>>41754629
You can avoid your fate by stopping the hatred
Hate is the antithesis of SRG. A pure mind does not hate, and recognises where the hate is coming from
>>41754644
Stop cherry picking what you reply to. There's no irony as I explained.
You are an incel. You've gotten no female approval, validation, anything in your life. That's why you bring it up unprompted. Female validation was irrelevant to this post that you replied to, >>41754608 . And yet you did, because you, a failed male, is projecting your own insecurities.
I have no need to get female validation because I get plenty of it already. It doesn't concern me, motivate my actions. I tell people to not hate women because that is what's right, and good for your heart. You brought up female approval because you're an incel trash who'll do anything for just a drop. You've been read like a book. Move on.
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>>41749130
i dont want an overwork for my brain to try to understand the last one so i will just continue nutting everyday to porn minimux x3 times
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>>41754665
>There's no irony as I explained.
That's because your IQ is less than 80.
>You brought up female approval because
Because all of your posts revolve around female approval
>I have no need to get female validation because I get plenty of it already.
Sure I believe you buddy
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>>41753437
Kill yourself. Not his fault your micropenis showed no notable difference on SR
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>>41754698
>Cant actually provide a meaningful reply
>still cherry picking
>muh female approval again, and again, and again. it's all the braindead incel can say
You lose. I win.
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THE SHILLS ARE WORKING OVERTIME STOP ENGAGING WITH THIS CURSED PLACE AND KEEP RETOONING BROTHERS
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>>41754425
No, I quit almost entirely 2 years ago. I have had two relapses of 5-10 day streaks. The last one being around 9-10 months ago which left me fucked up for what felt like an eternity.

I think what I was seeking and ultimately thinking I found in meth and other stimulants is the same I thought I found in porn. Porn being what I started long before meth thus could likely have been the catalyst for lots of behaviors that today I'm not very proud of.
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>>41754709
You can't get female approval IRL so you come on here to bash men by giving them the most hurtful insult you can think of by telling them that women don't find them attractive. It's okay we figured you out. You can be apart of the incel safe space too
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>>41754737
>You can be apart of the incel safe space too
Freudian slip KEK
I've completely exposed the lies that form the foundation of this garbage general.
Go and have sex. it's really not that difficult.
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>>41754745
>Go and have sex. it's really not that difficult.
Then why can't you have sex?
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Private observation. Being clean-shaven helps a lot.
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>>41749130
But what if I want to have kids?
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>>41755122
You don't ejaculate until your wife is ready to be impregnated. Give your sperm some time to mature.
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>>41753381
You’re still trapped in a coomer thought prison, obsessing over your dick size. The whole point of nofap and SR is to mentally rise above trivial bullshit, especially for things outside of your control. The size of your dick and whether or not it’s grown doesn’t matter to any productive end.


>>41753914
All you’ve discovered is that your erections are healthier when your penis and your dopamine receptors are undamaged. You didn’t gain anything that wasn’t already there, you’ve just healed.
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>>41755146
There isn’t a child creation stat screen that shows a value based on sperm maturation. Hormonal balance matters more than anything for the production of sperm. Simply abstaining from porn and masturbation is enough for quality sperm.

I don’t think people spouting this line about sperm maturation understand the basics of trying to have a child with a partner. The sex is frequent, not once every x amount of months. This retarded shit about sperm maturation is well poisoning.
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>>41755122
Real SR chads let their wife's bull impregnate her. It's the bull's job to service her needs, and put baby in her. SR chads raise the child.
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>>41755336
>how long can the jew go without mentioning BBC
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In this new year, I will
1. Work more and earn at least 5k more than I did this past year
2. Explore all facets of preproduction on the movie I want to make (funding, casting, locations, props, shotlist, storyboards, other documentation), getting to a point where I can visualize how the movie will be made
3. Ask out multiple women IRL
If I do these things, I will have taken my life into my own hands in a way I never have up to this point, and 2026 should be one of the most monumental years of my life -- maybe the most.
I said that every day this year would be worthwhile, I would not waste a day. Through three days, I'm going strong.
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>>41755346
>mentioning BBC unprompted
Well now we know what kind of degeneracy has brought you to cope here kek
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>>41755495
>talks about bvlls for wives
>actually goy, I never explicitly said BBC
Shalom, rabbi.
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>>41755515
Bull is not an explicitly racial term, you stupid cuck
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>>41755538
Oy vey, Benjamin.
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>>41755560
>noooo da jooz are making me crank it to bbc cuck porn
You are a literal meme. ngmi
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>>41753949
>Now I understand Al Bundy better.
ok, USC69, Jake, the 3rd, or whatever, that was based.
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>>41755655
You guys really can’t help but to post your black cock and cucking fetishes in these threads.

Anyway, we know your game is to get people calling out your judaism instead of talking about retention. Maybe go derail over at /pol/, moshe.
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>>41755273
>I don’t think people spouting this line about sperm maturation understand the basics of trying to have a child with a partner.
tbf people spouting that line don't really care about having children, or already have them.
> The sex is frequent, not once every x amount of months.
You are not married or have not been long term, eh?
>This retarded shit about sperm maturation is well poisoning.
So is your retarded shit, anon.
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>>41755678
>>41755495
You're just digging yourself in a hole here. Spiralling out. You must have gone deep. There's no way out. Just kys
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>>41755687
Do you not know how “we’re trying to have a baby” works, you retarded larper? It’s frequent ejaculation into a vagina for procreation. It is not once every 3 months, or more depending on who you asked about super sperm, and hoping it takes.

Fuck off with this well poisoning bullshit. There are real benefits to abstaining from porn and masturbation, and your crystal girls tier bullshit doesn’t belong on the list.
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>>41755689
>I talked about black cock and bulls again in SRG
>what mitzvah
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>>41754745
>this garbage general.
in which for some reason you love spending your time
>Go and have sex. it's really not that difficult.
apparently it is given the time you spend hanging around.
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The constant projection back and forth is really cringe guys.
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>>41755726
>I’m so elevated and above it all
>I called something cringe in the most vague and general way so that nobody knows what I’m talking about
>just my superior intellect I guess
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>>41755709
>Do you not know how “we’re trying to have a baby” works,
I do, you obviously don't, do you also not know how marriages work?
you also purposefully ignore the subject of the thread, for one reason or the other, a simple "if you want to have children with your partner then have children with your partner" would've sufficed but you decided to go on a tirade about stuff you simply have no idea about.
>you retarded larper?
oh the delicious irony of your projections.
>Fuck off
nah
>with this well poisoning bullshit.
more projecting I see
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>>41755753
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How do I unleash the destroyer?
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>>41755346
"bull" does not mean black you faggot. way to expose yourself
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>Just don't look at porn.
For me it's that simple.
I made the decision to catch myself and stop myself whenever I habitually started to open a porn site.
It was just part of my daily rotation :
I'm bored, let's watch YouTube
I'm bored, let's check the chats
I'm bored, let's browse the boards
I'm bored, let's browse some porn

It was a daily habit. I didn't jack off everytime I browsed porn sites. Most of the time there was nothing interesting there for me. I would browse, get bored and switch to some other site.
Once I consciously removed porn from my rotation of mindless browsing, I stopped getting horny.
And if you don't get horny, you don't get the urges, you don't jerk off!
SR became very easy after a few days of no porn.
Maybe once a week I'd catch myself habitually opening porn again.
Now it's very easy to stop when that happens
I can't even remember the last time I viewed a porn site. Maybe a month ago.
Turns out I almost never get horny without porn!
I hope this helps some anon out there.
Just stop watching pom, avoid getting horny, break the daily rotation, and SR becomes much easier!
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>>41755495
>>41755985
How unforgivably jewish do you have to be to defend this post? >>41755336

Can you dumb kikes take it back to temple and fuck off?
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>>41755756
You delusion larping faggot. Your balls are mega man's gun, you don't charge them up for [insert random number of months] to produce the most powerful children.

Shut the fuck up and stop making SR look like woo woo mysticism bullshit.

No porn.
No masturbation.
No more abuse of the penis.
No more abuse of dopamine.

Useless cunt.
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>>41756218
Also my conclusion having done this sr thing on and off for a good 4 years now.
Porn is the root issue. Everything stems from porn. You have conditioned yourself to associate your horniness with viewing digital pixels of another man fucking the woman you desire. It's voyeuristic, and cucked.
I'd go a step further and say, there's really no point in watching porn daily and doing SR. You're better off jerking to your imagination once a week, and not watching porn. This will probably cause some people to freak out but i sincerely believe this is true.
When you watch porn, your brain sends a signal to your balls to produce semen. You are accumulating aroused energy, and eventually that'll require release, and you'll almost certainly return to coomer mode.
Masturbation is obviously less than ideal. But when you masturbate by yourself, it is far more erotic, you're not cucking yourself here, and you're unconditioning yourself from porn.
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>>41756295
>>41756218
These kikes have really REALLY increased their efforts to get people here to jerk off
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>>41756344
Low IQ response
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>>41749130
Cut off your benis already. It's only final solution for you.
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Keep up the good fight men! Extinguish the flame of lust, and bind and cast out the Incubus and Succubus demonic spirits in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth
Amen, Hallelujah, Glory Be To God!
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>>41756350
It’s called semen retention, retard, and you want people to jerk cum from their dicks every week. Sorry what else am I supposed to say, faggot?
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>>41756389
Watching porn everyday invalidates your streak. Go cry to God about it.
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>>41756396
Why are you telling me? Just don’t watch porn you mental midget
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>>41756417
If you agreed with me, you wouldn't be seething so hard. You are a coombrain.
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I really dont know how so many of you fucks act so arrogant about this. You are on a coomer recovery thread for a reason. Humble yourself.
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>>41756430
Pride and Profanity go together very well
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>>41756427
But you already know I originally didn’t agree about the jerking off every week, obviously porn is bad lol you and your sneaky jew tactics
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Semen Retention thread.
Extreme level of aggression in the replies.
Mhhhhhh......
I'm not referring to all the anons in this thread, but some of you could really use some self-reflection.
The point of this should be having an hightened mental state and not regressing to violent monkey brain.
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Just throwing this out here, but did anyone else have to give up anime for SRG to work? I swear most anime is just softcore porn even shows I never thought about. For example, I was re-watching Azumanga Daioh and even that show is pretty bad.

Thoughts? Or am I being a schizo like usual? Like fuck me, at this point it feels like the only thing I can do really do is just read. I still like anime and what not but I might have to switch to manga. Any thoughts anon?

Pic related and is a 10/10 read.
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>>41755709
Underdeveloped sperm has difficulty achieving fertilization.
Mature sperm will one-shot wifey's egg EZ.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spermatogenesis
>For humans, the entire process of spermatogenesis is variously estimated as taking between 72 and 74 days (according to tritium-labelled biopsies) and approximately 120 days (according to DNA clock measurements). Including the transport on ductal system, it takes 3 months. Testes produce 200 to 300 million spermatozoa daily. However, only about half or 100 million of these become viable sperm
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Pornography enables instant gratification which warps the avid user's perception of intimacy. A truth I've had to stomach is that sex requires some modicum of trust, and you build that by the prerequisite of establishing a good connection. That's the tension that breeds incels or adjacent ideologies who can't get past their perceived entitlement to intimacy. Mating is no longer a matter of proximity and timing, social media has globalized the process, and decades of capitalist-fueled gender wars have created a hierarchical equilibrium between the genders, so no one feels like they need a partner anymore—hell no one seems to be able to afford one these days.

It's a matter of dopamine not desire. Desire when channeled properly can move mountains. What you should be aiming to do with semen retention is redirecting your urges into embodied actions without the need of a carrot being dangled infront of you.
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>>41756498
>anime
lol seriously? lmao even
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>>41756446
You've already confessed, coombrain. You're embarrassing yourself now.
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>>41756585
You’re the biggest loser of this general. Was that really you arguing with yourself for an entire two threads? I don’t come here much but you really stand out. What’s your endgame?
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>>41756610
You're now trying a new and bizarre angle here. Ask yourself why you got so defensive in the first place when I said porn is the worst.
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>>41756631
You can get the last word after this, im just gonna call you a faggot loser one last time if that’s ok with you. Goodbye
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>>41756641
Just think about it. All I ask. You've been seething because i said porn is the absolute worst, and leads to great degeneracy. You had no substantive reply here >>41756295 , where i explained the mechanism as to why porn is so bad.
And all you had to say, was call me a jew and seethe. Seriously, take a long hard look at yourself. This clever gotcha here isn't gonna change the fact that you made a fool of yourself.
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>>41756498
>Azumanga Daioh
are you joking? I just googled this and it's nothing but soft hentai drawings of highschool bimbos with massive tits in short skirts
this is for sexualized coombrains
I thought you were talking about like studio ghibli type stuff or naruto which also includes some stimulating visuals but it's not the main constant subject matter
yeah definitely don't watch sexualized highschool teen anime big boob sex shows are you crazy
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>>41756656
I called you a Jew cause you seemed to want others to start jerking off weekly to ones imagination, but if you’re recommending doing that as some kind of stepping stone to overcoming porn addiction maybe I got ahead of myself and I apologize for that
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>>41756498
I don't watch a lot of anime but I've noticed female characters in it will often fucking moan whenever they're even slightly surprised and it pissed me off.
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Love how I can easily sift through all the useless words to uncover someone's intentions and I'm happy to see it's not just me. None of you retainers who get attacked seem to require backup. It's like observing someone instantly squashing a pesky insect.
>>41755662
USC69 hits good, I'll take it. Thanks, fren,
>>41756498
I honestly don't think anime is the problem, but it's rather the type of story, which you can notice at first glance. Compare Fairy Tail to Dragon Ball Z for example. Both have this adventurous story with lots of action and comedy, but the difference when it comes to sexualization is immense. Let's say both of these anime aired when I was a little kid living with strict parents. I can watch Dragon Ball Z with my bedroom door wide open, but I'd fear for my life if it was Fairy Tail.

On the matter of your pic, I agree on the premise that MKU was successful, but I believe music is the key feature which made it so. By adjusting the people's frequency through music, you can align them with each other. Music affects our mental state in ways we often can't explain, until after the fact. This of course gets reduced by knowledge and awareness. Don't forget how music started. With music you can achieve 2 things: harmony or trance. You can probably guess which of the 2 they are aiming for.

Also, all of you, take this: https://streamable.com/l9lxnr
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When life is going well, I tend to forget about masturbating, but when I’m feeling depressed or struggling, I find myself doing it often. I’m not sure if it’s the act of retention that gives me strength or if masturbating is what makes me feel weaker.
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64 days in, my longest streak. The biggest benefit is the sense of freedom I feel regarding the opposite sex. The fact that I am single and not having sex is no longer a problem for me. I don’t obsess over whether some pretty girl is noticing me or not. I no longer have alterior motives with women that I meet. I no longer feel envy towards guys with attractive girlfreinds. I no longer feel defective or misfortunate. I can just be at peace as a single guy who isn’t even looking. I never thought I could achieve this.
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Alright...
Day 1 left
Day 90 right ( now )
I plan to do abstinence for the rest of 2026. I think I got this. It has changed my life so far. Much more energy.
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>>41749130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oby08eHpIOw
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>>41757069
Classic, mandatory video.
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>>41756920
Both, perhaps.
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>>41757064
good to hear mark
I am also aiming to go all of 2026
I just started because I had a final break up with a girl I was on and off with
also will be doing kettlebells and pullups
let's get it
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Started on the first day 3 compete
It's hard (heh) since some of the Asian girls at the massage parlors I frequent are messaging me to come over, which means it's dead and some good shit happens in those massage parlors when they're getting low traffic
I don't know how much longer I'll last bros
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>>41749170
True.
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>>41757281
have you tried telling them to fuck off?
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>>41757281
you should definitely block and delete those numbers bro
I've also tasted the forbidden fruit of the parlors
flee from lust like your life depends on it
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>>41757064
DESU you look better on the left
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>>41749170
all right man, you do you
I've had lots of sex, Im 36 now and I realize there's very little difference between fucking a girl and cumming without the goal of reproduction and jerking off to porn, same shit
I don't get any increased vibration or ojas or deeper meditations
semen retention is semen retention
cumming is cumming
entering a semen retention thread and telling people it's okay to fuck chicks is like going into a fasting thread and telling people that it's fine and natural to eat food
sure it is! but that isn't the fucking goal or purpose of the thread lol
there are higher levels of bliss to be obtained by avoiding lust and these fleeting desires and pleasures
sex feels great for a while but after decades of it some souls realize that there is more to this existence
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>>41758425
>I realize there's very little difference between fucking a girl and cumming without the goal of reproduction and jerking off to porn, same shit
Yup, even in long-term monogamous relationships too. Eventually sex with that same woman you 'love' will feel like masturbation, and at some point you'll just be imagining someone else. The difference is that you have another person validate you for being desirable. But once you move past the need for validation it's all the same shit. Some people won't get this tho (and we all know who)
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>>41758448
yeah vast majority of sex I've had in life was with a partner whom I loved deeply or who I thought I did anyway
it's all the same though, desire comes, you need to have sex, they turn you on, orgasm happens, desire vanishes, feelings of loss, being low, depressed, weak etc etc
and to the people who talk about having sex and not orgasming, I can't do that, tried for years, just makes me insanely horny and uncomfortable and wanting more and more sex
I prefer the path of the hermit or the monk or whatever, a quiet life with no highs or lows just a steady radiant joy
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>>41758420
>flee from lust like your life depends on it
If you look up the etymology of the word matrix:
matrix(n.)
late 14c., matris, matrice, "uterus, womb," from Old French matrice "womb, uterus" and directly from Latin mātrix (genitive mātricis) "pregnant animal," in Late Latin "womb," also "source, origin," from māter (genitive mātris) "mother" (see mother (n.1)).
https://www.etymonline.com/word/matrix

Lust is one of the major things that keeps you in the matrix (samsara)
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>>41758470
>it's all the same though, desire comes, you need to have sex, they turn you on, orgasm happens, desire vanishes, feelings of loss, being low, depressed, weak etc etc
Very real. It's basically like an itch that you keep needing to scratch. And each time you scratch you're actually hurting yourself in small ways. It may feel very satisfying to scratch the itch but you don't realize that the itch was the problem because you were too preoccupied with scratching it.

>and to the people who talk about having sex and not orgasming, I can't do that, tried for years, just makes me insanely horny and uncomfortable and wanting more and more sex
Same, you think it's a loophole but it's really not. And if you do it often you're still gonna eventually nut at some point due to the pressure you build up
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Most memorable moments I have of sex were looking at the woman as she was enjoying herself and wondering: "this is it, huh?" It's not like I felt any negative feelings towards the women, but the act itself just felt so worthless. This thought never escaped my head, until I found SR, which sparked a feeling of undying satisfaction inside me.

My penis is finally happy, now that I found happiness.
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>>41758425
>I've had lots of sex, Im 36 now and I realize there's very little difference between fucking a girl and cumming without the goal of reproduction and jerking off to porn, same shit

Having sex with someone you have an emotional connection with, and have feelings for, is nothing like jerking off to porn. This is not up for debate. This makes me immediately suspicious of you, seems you have some sinister intentions and wish to corrupt young men.
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>>41758521
>Having sex with someone you have an emotional connection with, and have feelings for, is nothing like jerking off to porn.
The feelings will eventually go. And if you have any semblance of masculinity, you realize your feelings are stupid and don't matter
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>>41758521
In his defense he didn't mention
>have an emotional connection with, and have feelings for
Now, I've no experience in fucking randoms, but I still agree with you on this matter.
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>>41758521
I don't give a shit lol
from a sensory standpoint obviously the sex with your partner is infinitely more pleasurable and overwhelming and fulfilling and comforting and all that
I'm talking about in terms of over-all energy loss and spiritual progression, they both leave you in the same place spinning your wheels
and maybe it's different between you and me, maybe you are meant for a life where you are tied to a partner and that's how you find your purpose and fulfilment in this incarnation
I'm sharing what I've found, from my experiences
when I was younger I thought sex was some kind of holy grail and purpose of life, what I found was disappointing
but for you to say sex with partner is "nothing like" jerking off is also insincere, there are similarities in the arousal system, in the pleasure complex, in the completion and aftereffect of orgasm, even of the spasm of orgasm itself
many similarities
the fact that you immediately are convinced that someone with a differing opinion has evil intent and ill-will with the goal to corrupt young minds leads me to believe you are prone to paranoia and have a high fear index
learn to trust life, love the process, allow things to unfold, let others have their experiences and do not fret and fear over every little thing, things will be better that way
anyway, please do as you wish, if you're here to just avoid porn and jerking off but still wish to desire sex then go for it, not gonna tell you otherwise
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>>41758540
>And if you have any semblance of masculinity, you realize your feelings are stupid
A parody of masculinity
>>41758544
Sure, yes. Fucking someone you got no connection with can even open you up to demonic infestations. You're just using someone's body to masturbate.
Really though, it's about how damaging hardcore pornography is
>>41758553
As I explained, the matter is not up to debate. The damage of hardcore pornography in the modern age is another level of demonic altogether, and entertaining a debate on this is out of the question.
>the fact that you immediately are convinced that someone with a differing opinion has evil intent and ill-will with the goal to corrupt young minds
You are a user on 4chan downplaying the effects of pornography. Suspicion of your character is simply pragmatism.
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>>41758553
It's all the same shit because whether it's porn, a relationship, a hookup, etc, all these just serve as temporary distractions from yourself. SR removes these distractions and if done right, you will come face to face with yourself and you may or may not like what you see.
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>>41758583
You wouldn't understand because you're a woman who revolves around their feelings - everything you posted on here supports that claim
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>>41758606
its time to grow up kid
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>>41758614
I did but you haven't. Especially when you still glorify relationships like a teen
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>>41758583
>You are a user on 4chan downplaying the effects of pornography.
you think I'm downplaying the effects of porn, what I'm actually doing is emphasizing the negative consequences of sex as a source of pleasure and ego satisfaction
porn is definitely top evil and should be avoided at all costs, even images of girls in bikinis or anything that arouses the carnal lust-filled mind
where did I say anything about porn not being bad????
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>>41758624
lol
muh glorious and holy and fulfilling sex wit me girly
so sacred and amazing
yeah he might grow out of it, might not
I feel for the poor bastards who get married, have kids, simp their whole lives away for a crumb of married pussy 2-3x a year
a common fate
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>>41758686
Porn is a literal weapon by the Saturnian elite used to harvest energy to power demonic 5d weapons used against the human population
Saying it's the same as having sex with a woman you have feeling for, is downplaying how bad it is
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>>41758697
depending on the circumstance the porn might be the safer option
you might have feelings for a chick who is lying to you, who has std's, who decides to baby trap you, who accuses you of rape later, who cheats on you, who spreads lies about you etc.
just because you have feelings for a girl doesn't make her a saint bro
I've honestly had worse negative consequences from sex than I have from masturbating
I'm not saying it's always going to be negative, but can end in heart break, can have you second guessing yourself, have you in your head obsessed over them, spiralling out of control, no chance of peace and presence and finding your true self
I hope you do find that perfect saintly angel girl who wants to have procreative sex with you and all is well and perfect
for me and others it is just easier to avoid the whole hassle entirely and focus on awakening and true self
and before you start calling me incel or whatever I just finished breaking up with my last chick a week ago and have been having steady regular soulful sex for the last decade from girl to girl
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>>41758691
Your resentment towards young men is very clear here
If you are what you say you are, you'd recognise that even if you are correct about the fate of marriage, it is something you have to learn through experience
Instead, you come here to discourage young men from having sex. You old fucks are no different to tranny groomers.
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>>41758707
>depending on the circumstance the porn might be the safer option
Wrong
Not reading the rest
You sexless bald fucks really gotta work better on your LARPs
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>>41758707
>depending on the circumstance the porn might be the safer option
aaaaand boom! there it is!
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>>41758710
have sex
literally
then we can talk
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>>41758731
think about you low iq sex starved ape
worst case scenario from jerking off to porn: feel like shit, shame, guilt, energy drain, spin wheels, stay stuck, negative aura, lose jing etc.
worst case scenario from sleeping with girl:
unwanted pregnancy, unwanted STD, jealous ex beats you to death, rape accusation etc I could go on forever
can you even debate this?
best is to avoid both and be happy and joyfilled in your own presence
this isn't a novel idea and it's the outcome of any serious seeker
this is a semen retention thread
not a "avoid porn but have sex" thread
hilarious seeing the shills calling the actual retainers shills
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>>41758425
>Im 36 now and I realize there's very little difference between fucking a girl and cumming without the goal of reproduction and jerking off to porn
unfortunately you are so terribly mistaken in your appreciation that you are bring literally nothing to the table, just like the other "youth of power" fag only from the other side.
>>41758540
>if you have any semblance of masculinity, you realize your feelings are stupid and don't matter
another mistake, yes, feelings will go, eventually, for most of us as finding lifelong partners has become a daunting task, but you are confusing your reproductive impulses, which is what keeps teenagers interested in a girl, with whatever feelings a mature man can harbor for a woman in which he sees a lot more than just a hole to rub a quick one, your notion of masculinity leaves a lot of room for improvement.
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>>41758732
Take your own advice, incel
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>>41758744
>think about you low iq sex starved ape
It's ok porn rabbi, that you resorted to meaningless attacks from behind the safety of your screen shows where are your intentions on this general, if you want to keep pushing porn on this place it's cool, most us see through your facade anyway, you do you, it is you that needs to sleep at night being you.
Shalom!
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If I was 37 years old, on 4chan and defending porn, I'd rope.
This is why it's important to age with dignity, and go through normal human development.
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>>41758343
>>41758420
I deleted the numbers last night when I was trying not to go
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>>41749178
>>41749580
>>41749713
>>41750437
>>41750444
>What was the point of writing this schizo babble
It's a larper that keeps posting the same pastas, has been doing it for a while now, it's always the same structured faps/genghis khan/alexander the great/men of youth bullshit.
We call him "the weaner" because at first he kept going and going and going on blabbering about how it is better to wean down from PMO instead of quitting cold turkey.
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>>41758781
I honestly had this impression you wouldn't, but I stand corrected. Good job and blessings to you.
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>>41749170
women don't want to have sex with me. so i choose to retain. i do think guys who can have sex should, and they do anyway. no one who regularly goes to SRG is Chad.
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>>41758805
Yeah it kinda sucked
My usual train of thought is "if I want to save $150-$200 I can just jack off" but I'm trying not to do either
I didn't delete the numbers since I never saved it but I did delete the burner number they contactme from so they won't message me
Still not out of the woods yet since I pass a few of the places on my way to work but one step at a time
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it makes sense why these guys are defending sex so hard
it is the ideal they strive for, the mystical vision, the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, you don't have to worry about women tempting you because they won't, you only have to worry about porn as the only temptation because it is the only temptation
you can keep sex as your sacred prize for completing this challenge but you will never attain it
so yeah, focus on avoiding porn and masturbating, that's all you have to worry about
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>>41758822
I think perspective might be the reason you're struggling with that. What helped me through porn for example was realizing it was influenced by human trafficking and other sorts of degeneracy.
I saw this video today and I honestly think this perspective might help you change your mind on the concept of these parlors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGjo9TgMFoE

Being part of the demand increases the supply. I can word it in a very heinous way, but I hope you understand what I mean.
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old senile fucks with porn addictions that span decades love to imagine their degeneracy is equal to being a sexhaver for decades
this myth is crucial to their sense of sanity
and just like tranny groomer that encourages kids to take hormone nuking drugs on discord, they come here to discourage young men from being... men.... of expanding, conquering, and sharpening their claws, and fucking young women with tight bodies, because they missed the boat.
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>>41758852
>>41758871
ok, weaner...
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>>41758858
Oh this was always in the back of my mind, the copium I inhaled was that they (acted) like they wanted it so it was okay
I know they're into it so I can keep coming back, but it's time to wake up

Anyways....day 4 starting, should be a busy day so no problems holding out
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its crazy how much better your dick smells when you do this. i suspect magnetism is an extension of this
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Havent been here in a while. Some faggots straight up advocating for weekly fap sessions as some sort of release valve cope for not being able to control themselves? What the fuck happened to this place?! I been clean since last year May and I never felt better. Every single day I get closer to understanding myself better and the sad illusion of porn that I was trapped for far too long. Your mind is literally unable to think clearly due to the pornrot laying siege on your mind. You are literally no better than a junkie always thinking on your next fix. Dont give up anons, it will get better! You can do it!
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>>41758521
>Having sex with someone you have an emotional connection with, and have feelings for, is nothing like jerking off to porn. This is not up for debate.
Maybe for a very insecure / co-dependent person, but normally sex loses its charm fast.
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>>41759109
>normally sex loses its charm fast.
Maybe for a very low T male
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I relapsed after 40 days. I did it so without porn. Even though it is a relapse, I take it as a win.

I couldn't handle 3 days in celibacy before, now I could do a "long" streak. I know I shouldn't have done it, but honestly I feel like I can see this as a win. I don't feel like I have to coom more, which is a very different feeling compared to relapses with porn, where you feel like nothing is enough.

Any insights or tips or advice for me?

ps: I think I relapsed because of all the half-naked women I am seeing every day at the beach, I don't know about that tantra and energy stuff, but I felt very dense and heavy energetically before I relapsed.
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>>41759400
Do a daily visualisation-based practise like the one outlined here : https://archive.org/details/rosicrucianmanua00plum/page/44/mode/2up

>At such times as sexual desire seems imperative, stand erect, muscles tense, place the hands palms down over the sex organs — partially or, better still, completely disrobed — and while doing so, concentrate on the thought: "I Will that this power ascend to higher regions — that it follow this path — I can feel it so doing," meanwhile drawing the hands up slowly on each side of the a,bdomen, following the natural curve of the body, until they stop over the nipples or mammary glands. Pause a moment until conscious of a distinct swelling of the breasts, a sensation of energy therein. Practice this on several occasions until the evidence of the upward surging of the vital powers is undoubted. Then, as a step farther, the next time it is practiced, bring the hands up to the throat, until it manifests in a distinct desire to speak with force and vigor. Third step — bring the hands completely up over the back and front brains, and you will become conscious of a power to create in the line of thought or mental process never before experienced. This practice is invaluable to the men or women who use their brains rather than their hands in the regular occupations of life.

Mindfulness also helps. Notice the erotic thoughts, notice how powerfully magnetised they are, but don't engage let them pass.
Also don't get too obsessed over trying to controlling yourself.
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>>41751775
Thats were you're wrong kid. Onanism has always meant spilling your seed, unless you are going into the deeper analysis of the story. Which means anything that does not involve sowing into an at minimum theoretically fertile woman is onany.

For me personally, after 77 days of aonanic praxis (and no weakling nightly emissions) I set the bar at a woman I have reasonable hope will not kill the child, in her fertile days. But if I wasn't carrying such a high value load I would totally spread my seed also in women on the pill, or not in her fertile time of the month as the chance makes it within the law.
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guys, i havent jacked off in about 3 days. and ive been going towards my usual geeking spot which is an abandoned building near my neighbourhood and i saw this. I instantly felt an urge to start jerking off and it left. Does this mean i failed at semen retention?
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>>41759109
No, that’s a very unhinged attitude towards sex.
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>>41758521
>This is not up for debate.

>You can't have a different subjective human experience than me.
Actual psycho detected.
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>>41759703
Nah, they’re right. I’ve done 100% of my sex not for reproduction, and it’s nothing like having sex with your hand or some fake vagina toy. If you can’t distinguish a difference between a real person and a fake vagina like orifice, then you’re fucked in the head.
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>>41759703
>muh subjective experience
>muh you must CARE about my experience wahhhh
>muh ur le bad person wahh
efferminate coward detected
be a man and make an actual point instead of moralising, faggot
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>>41759400
>Any insights or tips or advice for me?
whatever you do, don't come back to porn now. after cooming, even without porn, your urges will definitely flare up and you might think to yourself that if you had already "relapsed" and lost your streak you might as well give in, but this is a big trap and will only make getting your next long streak very difficult to get again
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>>41760155
thanks man, I know It's a trap and I dont want to give in. I relapsed but this doesn't mean the streak is over. I had a great streak with great fruits. I didnt lose all the benefits by relapsing, after all it's about the journey not the ending.
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20 days in, this is my new record. My dick is so sensitive I feel i might cum if a woman just as much as touch me in a sexy way. At least my balls don't hurt like the last time I attempted sr.
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>>41760433
You relapsed so the streak is over, you are very right though, your journey isn't over.
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>>41759754
yikes, no wonder you're an incel.
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>>41759400
I would say don't feel like the 40 days are over or it's a waste, just a minor bump on the path to liberation. Don't obsess too much with streak lengths but start again and don't beat yourself up, stay clear on this, realize how little benefit it was and remember how good it felt to be free of this, you will win, we will win. I believe in you man, 40 days is a great accomplishment, I believe you can do much more!
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>>41760548
Remember to just ignore the shills and starve them
anyone who promotes anything in this thread but total abstinence and retaining the seed for alchemical transformation and sublimation into higher states of mind, kingdom of heaven, samadhi etc.
those who are trying to insult others for preaching abstinence and celibacy are nothing but dirty rats infesting this thread with their low vibrations, most likely funded by Israel
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>>41758707
Amen bro. Many of these fucks won't get it because you're gonna have to undo all the programming they received when they were young telling them that women are these morally superior nice and sweet angels whom you must work for to gain their affection, which is the ultimate prize. You realize you have to undo all the Disney and societal brainwashing these gents received growing up, along with the 1000s of simpish songs they heard in their lifetime.
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>>41760769
Let's just make one thing clear; I only want white men to go out and pursue relationships with white women.
The rest of you "people", i dont care what you do. I prefer it if you left women alone.
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>>41760952
>The rest of you "people"
I am as white as it gets you ignoramus.
>i dont care what you do
Even if I wasn't it wouldn't matter if you cared or not
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>>41759109
>Maybe for a very insecure / co-dependent person, but normally sex loses its charm fast.
Yup, it's more about the anticipation for sex rather than the act itself. Once it's done the mystery, uncertainty, and novelty is gonna be gone. The best moments with a girl are gonna be if you don't know whether she likes you or not.
>>41759149
>Maybe for a very low T male
Low T men are the ones who are very clingy after sex because they need feminine energy like an addict
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>>41761014
Low T men don't even desire sex in the first place.
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>>41760769
thanks bro, at least there is one sane person in this thread
I got a bit disheartened when I saw how negatively people responded
I've been against porn and pmo since 2008 and I was not trying to promote it, just trying to share the pitfalls of women cause we have shills here trying to say the point of semen retention is to get laid
pathetic
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It's like the boys in my ballsack are mentally harassing me so I don't slack off. Silly dudes.
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>>41761102
Higher T doesn't necessarily correlate with sex drive. Many men who take anabolic steroids often note that their sex drive takes a hit and many men on it lose that desire completely.

"Impact of anabolic androgenic steroids on sexual function"
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6043738/

Sexual desire rests on proper androgenic balance. There is a sweet spot, and if you surpass that sweet spot you'll start to lose interest in sex and relationships because you'll be seeking higher risk activities.
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>>41761193
I was not talking about high T.
I was talking about low T.
Low T men do not desire sex as much. This is a fact. They have less of a libido.
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>>41756516
In the real world women are both untrustworthy and feeling extremely entitled to men's money and labor in general. If you're expected to pay for worse and less sex than she already gave for free to who knows how many men (because almost none of them are chaste or waiting for the right guy) there's no reason to respect that or avoid porn in favor of it. If you're not getting any of the appropriate gratification that's necessary in a relationship despite waiting or doing the expected dance and you also REFUSE to acknowledge much less check women's blatant entitlement you are in no position to be bitching about porn or men's entitlement. If women can't be relied on for sex by their own admission, can't stop popping that pussy open for the wrong men and are very entitled themselves you have nothing good enough to argue against men's porn use or "instant gratification".
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>>41761305
>If women can't be relied on for sex by their own admission, can't stop popping that pussy open for the wrong men and are very entitled themselves you have nothing good enough to argue against men's porn use or "instant gratification"
Add on to that female gooning and using weird toys. That's the "good connection" that these "incels" can look forward to if they drop porn. The modern woman and it's enablers whether that's simps or politicians do so much more damage than porn while pretending they're offering the secret to the universe and true peace on earth. Filthy retarded liars can be left to starve without their lifeblood meal.
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>>41761234
It's not all about T. For example, just because someone has a high libido doesn't necessarily mean you don't have low T levels. You see this with people getting their testosterone levels checked and surprised they have low levels even though their libido is at an all time high. This is because estrogen also increases libido due to increased histamine levels.

But as the other anon was saying:
>Maybe for a very insecure / co-dependent person, but normally sex loses its charm fast.
Testosterone is an interesting thing because it makes one lose interest in pair bonding to seek novelty. And in women it makes them less likely to seek sex with a partner and opt to masturbate instead:

"Testosterone is often cast as the manly hormone, the chemical bestower of virility and the reason for men's high sex drives. But new research turns this conventional wisdom on its head. In healthy men, it turns out, testosterone isn't linked to sexual desire at all. And in women, high testosterone is actually associated with less interest in sex with a partner.

Complicating the picture further, while high-testosterone women may be less interested in slipping between the sheets with a lover, high testosterone is linked to greater interest in masturbation in healthy women, according to research detailed online in May in the journal Archives of Sexual Behavior."
https://www.livescience.com/21114-testosterone-sex-drive-masturbation.html

Regardless tho, low T causes one to want to pair bond:
"Low testosterone is linked to pair bonding in men, with studies showing that married or committed men, especially fathers, often have lower T levels than single men, suggesting a hormonal shift supporting caregiving over mating effort"
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0149763418304391#:~:text=We%20confirm%20that%20pair%2Dbonded,that%20influence%20men's%20T%20concentrations.
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>>41761370
>Regardless tho, low T causes one to want to pair bond: "Low testosterone is linked to pair bonding in men, with studies showing that married or committed men, especially fathers, often have lower T levels than single men, suggesting a hormonal shift supporting caregiving over mating effort"
No all that's happening here is men get the (usually false) signal that's it's ok to relax. Testosterone is generally a tool to fight off the environments attacks. It's adapting for survival. You also have various things now lowering test much further than a relationship would do. If a challenge or threat to the peace showed up testosterone would likely spike. How testosterone is used is based on intelligence and the example set as a child which is also lacking for multiple reasons.
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>>41761364
>>41761305
The reason for this is because men enable bad behaviors in women due to their insatiable need to be validated by them. So they can be deemed 'worthy' by someone they put on a pedestal. Porn contributes to this simping epidemic because the desire for sex is also an unconscious desire to connect. And while porn can alleviate one part of this, the desire to connect with another human remains unsatisfied, so that's why you get simps who spend hundreds and thousands to some e-thot on onlyfans just to talk to them. Basically these are just addicts who don't even know it.

And most men in the west are like this to an extent - they'll simp and give everything just for a crumb of pussy. Just pretend to be a woman on a dating app and you might even meet men who beg just to send you money.

The porn itself is just a symptom and not the cause, although it feeds that certain part of the man every time he indulges.
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>>41761411
The idea that's it's just test itself making these guys want casual flings instead of a meaningful relationship is btfo just by the fact modern guys who have legendarily low test are still caught prioritizing pointless fucking hook ups. The fact things like how smart these fags are, their upbringing and social pressure is being overlooked is peak midwit shit.
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>>41761370
>You see this with people getting their testosterone levels checked and surprised they have low levels even though their libido is at an all time high. This is because estrogen also increases libido due to increased histamine levels.
this
I had a testosterone test and was very low like 275 ng/dl but I was horny as hell, fucking my gf daily, jerking off, morning wood the whole shebang
never got another test, don't care really
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>>41761411
Men in relationships generally have lower testosterone. And I agree, the nurture, comfort and relaxation you get in a relationship is a killer of testosterone. Testosterone spikes when facing discomfort, such as going to the gym or overcoming something hard. You don't get that same challenge in relationships, and also hanging out with a woman all the time will soften you over time. That's a fact. It's very rare to meet a man in a relationship who wants to excel in his life when he's already got the strongest sedating drug in the world - love and affection. And not to mention, lower T men tend to want relationships while higher T men want more independence so whatever path one chooses they'll just keep feeding it with the actions they take

https://record.umich.edu/articles/men-women-more-satisfying-relationships-have-lower-testosterone/
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>>41761453
Yeah men enable women but women also selectively choose men who let them be dumb sluts over guys who want them to act better because self control is hard and better behavior is associated with heckin evil patriarchal oppression. They're just stupid. Porn isn't simping unless maybe you're paying for it or stuck on one bitch, you're literally just using them to get off while offering nothing. A lot of the porn doesn't even involve real 3d women who could appreciate the attention at least.
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>>41761467
Yup, exactly. Just take a look at the bfs in this video. None of them look high test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc0VMvhMgu4
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>>41761370
Sperging out over biological function is pointless. Yes, a myriad of factors affect libido.
But that doesn't change a thing. If you are a healthy male, then you have a desire for sex. People who dont desire sex, are unhealthy and have some dysfunction going on. That IS the modern male crisis; plummeting sperm counts, less men having regular sex, less relationships etc etc

There's nothing novel about the sex-negative attitude on here. It's par for the course. It's what the elites have been programming into people.

Now it's one thing when a man has experience with women and decides its not for him. That's perfectly okay. But now we got a bunch of virgins pretending theyre better than other men because they've never had sex and "choose" not to - this is an insane level of dysfunction and far from healthy
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>>41761524
Christ, what the fuck is that youtube channel. Is this the sort of goyslop you incels consume regularly? Go outside.
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>>41761493
Men have lower testosterone in relationships because they don't need to fight the same, but besides that the modern world openly hates masculinity and offers different poisons that lower test even more. The relationships themselves are twisted. Men in practice are forced and groomed as children at societal gunpoint to walk on eggshells around bitches and let them get away with all kinds of bad behavior because of supposed sins of the past or a minority of unhinged men or women's selective manipulative acknowledgment of physical inferiority. You have men getting on their knees to propose to a woman based on how literal knights showed respect to royalty. The general dynamic and world is twisted so high test men supposedly avoiding these more meaningful relationships in favor of hook ups only makes sense when what you can bond to is a warped ugly imitation of a woman.
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>>41761546
>The general dynamic and world is twisted so high test men supposedly avoiding these more meaningful relationships in favor of hook ups only makes sense when what you can bond to is a warped ugly imitation of a woman
Meaning it's dishonest to say higher test makes men avoid bonding or meaningful relationships when besides all the other factors the women are completely fucked up. Why would you choose bonding to someone who's been with various other men already and won't show you basic respect based on what's been made to seem normal at the time? You're more likely than not to be mistreated by these women if you settle down with one because they're groomed to be anti wives and generally unlikeable in the name of empowerment.
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>>41761530
you think elites are programming people to shun sex?
what the hell programming script are you watching?
everything I see is all about sex sex sex and how you can only be good and accomplished if you're having sex and how it's the number one priority for everyone in the movies and shows and socials
can you show me some examples of mainstream media trying to dissuade young men from pursuing sex?
I can find examples from swamis, sages, saints and gurus, countless actually
but mainstream zogbots all preach the opposite
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>>41761530
>If you are a healthy male, then you have a desire for sex.
I agree, but there's a certain threshold where one's high effort they put in to have sex becomes pathetic. I guarantee that the woman you're trying to court and making you 'work for it' or wait, gave it up incredibly easy to some dude that barely even wanted her
>But now we got a bunch of virgins pretending theyre better than other men because they've never had sex and "choose" not to - this is an insane level of dysfunction and far from healthy
I know what you mean, but transcending preprogrammed instincts is pretty based tho. But that's if one truly transcended that desire and not doing it from bitterness
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>>41761607
"Elites" or the rich ugly parasites push different things. They do both demonizing sex and pushing harmful casual sex because both are destructive or drain the soul of their hosts. They use women and children as tools to get men to accept more and bad behavior, because they can then cut off sex or take the kids with the parasites backing. Sex in practice is poisoned and used to manipulate but that doesn't mean it was meant to be that way or the desire for sex is wrong. It's all about the context.
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>>41761607
They want westerners to have less children so they can import infinite immigrants and keep the ponzi scheme going.
Promoting sex on TV does not lead to more babies. They understand this. Things have changed now abortion, birth control and contraception is widespread
>can you show me some examples of mainstream media trying to dissuade young men from pursuing sex?
Metoo movement, the general demonisation of male sexuality, all is designed to cripple sensitive young men
The recent rise in redpill, and black pill content too, does it from the other angle
Attacks occur from all angles
All of it is to turn modern man into neurotic messes
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>>41761540
LOL bro, just watch it. This is what happens when you let your desire go unchecked - don't be one of these guys. And the sad part is this is real life. One of my friends is getting married to a woman he met while she was in one of these 'open relationships.'
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>>41761124
>I-I'm not trying to promote porn bro...it's just t-the safer option!
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>>41761619
>I agree, but there's a certain threshold where one's high effort they put in to have sex becomes pathetic. I guarantee that the woman you're trying to court and making you 'work for it' or wait, gave it up incredibly easy to some dude that barely even wanted her
Sure. I agree with that.
Build the island and the boats will come. The lion does not seek out a mate until it has conquered territory, slaughtered enemy males in its space. Expansion, conquer etc, is the primal instinct of men with great spirit
Sex with women is secondary, a happy byproduct that comes with mastery.

>I know what you mean, but transcending preprogrammed instincts is pretty based tho.

Yes, it's based once you're in your middle ages. But when you're young, you must expand, enact your will onto the world, do things. Only when you do things is there opportunity for growth.
Let's say, women are cunts that deserve none of our attention. A young man should not learn this from anon on 4chan. He should learn this in the real world. Heartbreak is the intiation process of becoming a man. It is necessary.

But yes, later on, you can focus on transcendence. When you are 40+ year of age, this is when your spiritual souls are born, the true higher instincts.

I should also mention; The impulse for Love is higher. It's only in upside down world do we think physical sex is the root of the impulse. No. The root of the sex impulse is Love, not primitive desire for orgasm. People mix this up, which is what leads to dysfunction
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>>41761673
No, he's right. It's really sad how some men on here strive for long streaks so God can be satisfied with them and give them a gf.

1) God doesn't owe you anything
2) Having a gf in this modern age isn't what you think. Chances are without the proper experience you're gonna get walked over and destroyed because you don't know her true nature. By age 25 the average woman will have lived out every sexual fantasy that you'll only have dreamed of. Meanwhile the dude who had 2 prior relationships still thinks women are these soft, nurturing angels who are morally superior.

So yes, porn is the 'safer' option but there is no reward at the end of the tunnel with this route. All you get from it is you literally just burn up your energy. Imagine hitting the gym and never seeing any results
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>>41761672
The man who creates that sort of content is a predator that is feeding on your anxieties and fears of women.
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>>41761607
sex =/= reproduction, goy.
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>>41761693
>By age 25 the average woman will have lived out every sexual fantasy that you'll only have dreamed of
Porn has crippled you and turned you into a cuckold.
And you turn around and embrace the weapon that has utterly ruined your soul, and think it's a better option, than actually having sex how its supposed to be done. Very tragic.
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>>41761652
>>41761653
There seems to be a current trend to entice people to have babies, it's some shit about the system at large running out of pay pigs for the pension/retirement funds, large populations are getting old without proper refilling by newgens, of course men get blamed for it.
Heck you can even see it on this general lately if you are a noticer, besides the usual incel shaming there are now many shills spewing crap about the importance of having sex and reproduction, some other shit about relationship dependence, bla bla bla.
Of course, for the elites this is nothing that is not fixable through some old fashion population replacement.
At least until full automation is a go.
Men's proper both sexuality and masculinity is one interesting battleground for the future.
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>>41761702
Having sex the expected way ruins your soul worse than porn because as it's been repeated countless times the women already did this bonding act with various men and besides that don't know how to act. Who's going to tell them shit? They won't even listen to their parents when they mean well. Women have been weaponized and cut men worse than porn because like you said the expectation is they'll offer the genuine healthy thing, except surprise they won't or can't actually anymore because they were groomed for the opposite. Post nut depression over porn can't compare to being stuck in a shitty relationship or having kids on top of that.
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>>41761702
>And you turn around and embrace the weapon that has utterly ruined your soul,
You need to read the last sentence of my post... I'm not a proponent of porn. At all. You need to be ok by yourself - no girl, no porn, no hope for a relationship. Only you and God. That's it. That's the key to true fulfillment.

This anon here - no one replied to him but he's at a really good spot and this is what men on here should strive for:
>>41756967
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>>41761730
As I explained:
>They want westerners to have less children so they can import infinite immigrants and keep the ponzi scheme going.
They don't need to native people having children. Less white people the better. A population of low iq immigrant bioweapons is easy to control.
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>>41761730
Again it's because they want to use these relationships to push certain behaviors and make money. Sex and having kids IS important but they want you to have sex with a down low agent or thunder cunt they created over the years who will control you using pussy and your children instead of loving you and supporting you for mutual benefit as intended.
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>>41761732
I want you to understand that when you watch porn, you are conditioning yourself to getting erect over watching a penis. You associate arousal with penis. You are turning into a homosexual. Is this better? You're sure? Perhaps as a homosexual it's fine
>>41761744
Very convenient of you to ignore the last part of my quote:
>n, than actually having sex how its supposed to be done.
Having sex with woman is the default setting.
Watching a video with another man's penis, arousing yourself to that, then fucking your hand, is great perversion.
The fact you think porn is better, shows just how deeply lost you are.
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>>41761752
Ignoring that most these guys aren't actually going gay from watching porn tell me how technically being aroused over a dick on a screen is worse than being stuck in ridiculously bad relationships where your sex drive and children are used against you for others gain. It just seems like you're being petty right now.
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>>41761745
>As I explained
gawd what a literal dick, was I disagreeing with you? go seek some womanly validation.
>They don't need to native people having children.
Russia and several eastern euro countries are engaging in programs to stimulate native births.
Perhaps balance more between alternative views and actual news.
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>>41761752
>The fact you think porn is better, shows just how deeply lost you are.
I never said it was better but it's 'safer' and that's a fact. Not all women wants what's in your best interest.

If you find a legit good God-fearing woman that's infinitely better. But chasing tail because you're bored and lonely looking for someone to complete you? Sad. I'd rather watch porn. We can agree to disagree.
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>>41761764
>that most these guys aren't actually going gay from watching porn tell me how technically being aroused over a dick on a screen
There's plenty of guys who do
Worse, there's guys who turn into trannies. It's what AGP is. Guys watch porn, and start wishing they were the women in the porn, getting fucked
The depravity knows no limits
But you're okay with this. You'd rather be like this, than be with a woman.
You just dont like women that much. And that's okay. You have fun.
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>>41761752
>>41761764
>Having sex with woman is the default setting
Is it also the default setting for her to have attachments to other men she fucked or weaponize sex against you? I have a feeling that's not what was intended and is going to do a little more harm than feeling bad because you jerked your dick by yourself.
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>>41761746
I don't think the elites care too much about goys having reproductive sex, unless there is some perceived nationalistic superiority like in Russia's case, what I do believe is they are panicking a bit over those drying pension funds they do love getting their filthy paws on.
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>>41761773
>But chasing tail because you're bored and lonely looking for someone to complete you? Sad. I'd rather watch videos that include other mens penises
cool bro you do you
>>41761781
You have to invent fanciful narratives around "le bad evil woman", that is only a projection of your own paranoia and anxieties around women, as well as whatever redpill slop content you've melted your mind with. Engaging with this is just stupid, on my part. Im not stooping to your level of retardation
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>>41761780
Plenty hardly practically translates to even ten percent of guys I'm willing to bet. Why are you repeatedly ignoring that being with a woman in practice now is perverted and harmful? I'll tell you what all those guys getting broken up with or cheated on orehaving sex withheld from them based on nonsense DON'T seem to be having much fun anyway. Because women in their current state aren't trying to be likeable or loving.
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>>41761795
>Plenty hardly practically translates to even ten percent of guys I'm willing to bet.
So, you'd take the 10% possibility of becoming a tranny, over having sex with a woman?
We've found the root issue here. You just dont like women that much. Some libido issue likely. That's cool.
You can go down the bottomless pit of depravity that is porn, and let your mind get broken by black magicians.
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>>41761793
There's no inventing the fact women have multiple sex partners before meeting their long term partners as a rule now. It's not inventing anything to point out it's common for them to withhold sex or use it to get their men to behave how they want. It's not paranoia either. It's just a fact you can't handle. You're already beneath me for denying basic reality so pathetically.
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>>41761793
>You have to invent fanciful narratives around "le bad evil woman", that is only a projection of your own paranoia and anxieties around women,
Haha ignorance is bliss
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>>41761805
Bro there's no convincing him. We've all been there. No amount of convincing me would've changed my mind. I loved women that much. Only experience can teach this lesson
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>>41761805
Even when you see a woman, you think about other mens penises. This is because you're a cuck, or you're a hoosexual. Either way that's your problem, not mine.
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>>41761819
I will never stop warning young men about bitter old fucks like you who've lost in life and want to spread their sickness onto others. Seethe about it
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>>41761804
The ten percent is a made up guess based on general gayness not trooning out. Guys who fuck guys also fuck women all the time. You're trying way too hard to avoid seeming gay. When it's at the point you're calling known bad behavior in women made up but obsessed with the very slim possibility of liking cock you might be closeted. I don't genuinely understand what being gay changes about women's bad behavior even if I religiously sucked cock. This is just like when you types cope by saying its all sour grapes to criticize women, somehow fat feminists who withhold sex wouldn't actually count as sour to you.
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>>41761820
>Even when you see a woman, you think about other mens penises
This is literally your whole argument against porn though. There's a hot woman in the porn but you're hyper focused on the cock. Oh but it's fine when you do it right? You might just be gay and retarded buddy.
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>>41761826
I'm 26 bro, but I've had enough experience with women - hooking up, relationships, women in relationships, etc to see how self-serving and ruthless they truly can be. I'm just reporting the facts. Your raw experience - not projected, idealized, fantasy is what should matter to you at the end of the day.
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>>41761826
How's it winning at life if you can't keep your arguments straight and see absolutely nothing wrong with women's behavior in sex and relationships? They're openly doing perverted shit but you're hyper focused on the gay type of perversion that's much less likely to affect you unless you're a fag yourself.
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>>41761832
It's you who's made the guess. So by your own admittance, you'd take the 1/10 chance of turning into a homo/tranny than have sex with a woman.
Our value systems are very different. Im not changing mine. Im not allowing porn to warp my sexuality. But you seem to be okay with it. You do you.
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>>41761864
It was a generous guess that's still only a ten percent one based on possibly liking guys not trooning out. What I listed women doing wrong in relationships is infinitely more common but you're again ignoring it to focus on possible gayness. When you literally have bigger issues to deal with you're still only focused on dick while ironically talking about being gay as if it's a universally bad thing. You're like a self hating fag.
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>>41761845
Ask yourself buddy. You see a hot woman. And you're imagining other men's cocks inside her. Why?
>>41761857
Ive experienced heartbreak and despite that, i know there's good women out there. When i was a selfish prick, i've attracted equally selfish women. Like attracts like. Man is the flame, woman is the glow.
>>41761860
>see absolutely nothing wrong with women's behavior in sex and relationships?
I see plenty wrong. But there's nothing new under the sun. That's all you faggots on this site talk about. Le woman bad. It's boring. Im interested in higher things. For example, ive found it very entertaining exposing all the closet homos here. Ive made them squirm like pigs. Le women bad is boring.

See, you people need to understand. My misogyny has transcended. I dont take women seriously at all. If a woman is a cunt, i simply grey rock her out of my life. Only faggots create cuck scenarios in their heads and imagine the last guy that ploughed her or other deranged shit.
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>>41761881
>ironically talking about being gay as if it's a universally bad thing
I dont mean to be homophobic. If you're fine turning gay from watching porn, you do you.
Personally, its not even the homosexuality that's the issue here for me. It's the fact that porn can turn you into something else altogether. Whether it's being gay, or worse, a tranny. That is not something i want for my soul.
But you do you.
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>>41761891
>Ask yourself buddy. You see a hot woman. And you're imagining other men's cocks inside her. Why?
You see a hot woman in the video and focus on the dick. Again that's literally your argument against porn. If this is a woman that you're trying to get in a meaningful relationship with how the fuck is her past or physical/mental attachments to other men NOT important to you unless you like sharing or getting less?
>I see plenty wrong. But there's nothing new under the sun
There's plenty behavior that's gotten much worse than in the past because of the selective government involvement redistributing men's money to women or canceling their authority in the family, social media/dating apps, drastically increased populations pushed into smaller areas, the legalization and promotion of abortion and mind altering birth control pills among other things. Acting like everything is just the same as always is dishonest and ignores the actual truth of the situation. I don't care if the truth bores. If your stupid ass is going to yap and lecture you need something of substance to back it up and you just completely failed to deliver that in favor of crying about a tiny minority of faggots you wouldn't even have to deal with unless you liked cock yourself. You're an obnoxious midwit.
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>>41761891
>Ive experienced heartbreak and despite that, i know there's good women out there.
And yet you're not with one despite really wanting one. Geez wonder why
>I dont take women seriously at all.
If you didn't you wouldn't spend the entire page defending their honor
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>>41761905
A lot of things can turn you into something else. I don't see the point worrying about being gay, meaning gay at all not exclusively liking men or trooning out, when you clearly have such bigger fish to fry with women and the damage they do to the soul ANYWAY. Do these guys who get broken up with for new dick or stuck in sexless marriages or relationships where they have to be super careful not to offend the women over anything seem like their souls are doing alright? Fuck no and it's clearly worse than whatever depression guys might experience from jerking their cocks in private.
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>>41761929
>You see a hot woman in the video and focus on the dick. Again that's literally your argument against porn.
Yeah. It's called having principles. You should try it.
> If this is a woman that you're trying to get in a meaningful relationship with how the fuck is her past or physical/mental attachments to other men NOT important to you unless you like sharing or getting less?
Are you a virgin?
>There's plenty behavior that's gotten much worse than in the past because of the selective government involvement redistributing men's money to women or canceling their authority in the family, social media/dating apps, drastically increased populations pushed into smaller areas, the legalization and promotion of abortion and mind altering birth control pills among other things. Acting like everything is just the same as always is dishonest and ignores the actual truth of the situation. I don't care if the truth bores. If your stupid ass is going to yap and lecture you need something of substance to back it up and you just completely failed to deliver that in favor of crying about a tiny minority of faggots you wouldn't even have to deal with unless you liked cock yourself. You're an obnoxious midwit.
blah blah blah shut up retard do you not get tired of this
literal ghosts in your mind, haunted thoughts of nothingness
>>41761939
>And yet you're not with one despite really wanting one. Geez wonder why
Im talking to one right now. But she seems to be a cunt so ill probably drop her soon.
>If you didn't you wouldn't spend the entire page defending their honor
To you faggots, who dont really like women all that much because your sexuality is corrupted, anything that is not saying women are pure evil is defending their honour

Do you not see how you fucking morons are no different to batshit insane feminist cunts who say deranged stuff like "kill all men"?
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>>41761952
>when you clearly have such bigger fish to fry with women and the damage they do to the soul ANYWAY.
This conversation is pointless.
You'd rather let porn damage your soul and turn you into a tranny.
I'd rather let a woman fuck me over.
This is our respective value systems. It's not going to change. You've said your piece, i've said mine. Feel free to have the last word.
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>>41761967
Your principles are twisted when the cock fucking some stranger whore on a screen matters much more to you than the cock that's been in the woman you're trying to be in a serious relationship with. I don't know why I even have to point out how much more important and personal it is for other cocks to be involved in your relationship. What does my possible virginity or being gay change about what I said? If I was diehard gay or a virgin it wouldn't change sex does involve bonding and it's an issue for future guys if she's still got feelings or expectations based on those past men. Ironically this is also a problem for gays. Their promiscuity is much worse but it doesn't exactly hurt them the same because their relationships are more superficial in general. They don't do monogamy or have kids the same if at all. Good job dismissing everything objectively much worse and different about women compared to the past. It's all made up ghosts because it hurts your midwit narrative.
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>>41761967
>To you faggots, who dont really like women all that much because your sexuality is corrupted, anything that is not saying women are pure evil is defending their honour
It's not about liking them. I like how they look and will always like how they look. But a woman's default nature will be bad. Sorry but that's just how it is and this began since the story of Adam and Eve. If you want to succeed in dating this is just something you have to accept and maneuver around.

And it's not blind hate. It's adaptation through pragmatism. If you can't accept that you're gonna be walked all over in this day and age.
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>>41761976
You'd rather worry about possibly technically liking cock than worry about the implications of the mother of your kids still having attachments to other cock. The damage is magnitudes worse when a woman fucks a man over than when he feels icky after jerking his cock to some digital degeneracy. He's also got less freedom if she fucks him over because of the laws and possible children involved. The women and relationships are already openly degenerate or perverted but you're hung up over gay degeneracy specifically.
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>>41761976
>You'd rather let porn damage your soul and turn you into a tranny.
Porn doesn't turn you gay or into a tranny unless the propensity towards these things didn't already exist in you.
>I'd rather let a woman fuck me over.
Won't judge you for this. This dynamic is what keeps the system running. Personally I'd rather be alone than be with a woman that wants to fuck me over
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>>41762020
Throughout all of time men have fathered children that aren't theirs in ignorance. This is just nature at work bro - female dual mating strategy. Some men (probably most actually) are simply built for the provider role so they can father the children of alphas. For these men it's better to be in this position than to not get anything at all. Again, it's what keeps the system going.
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>>41762058
No because what we're seeing is an exaggerated form of that. Just accepting it has only made it worse. It doesn't have to be like this and the relationships are bad enough I don't know how they're still acting like there's much to lose if they just start telling women no or be better. There's not even a quarter of the value in these relationships that they pretend there is anymore. It's superficial and ugly larping as deep and beautiful. It's fake.
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>>41762088
And I believe this is why SR is important. You can't give energy to these thots physically or psychically. That's how they grow stronger
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Something I noticed after a long streak is that there's no more shame. No more having to "hide" anything about what I was doing, no more being secretive about lotion usage, no more being cautious to delete history, etc.

I can just exist and live my life without a layer of shame ever present. It's honestly one of the best parts of SR, that unnecessary aspect is just gone. I think people should look at their shame and use it as a tool to stop fapping. (But don't dwell in past shame, that's the devil's work. Be happy you're no longer in it.)
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>>41751997
this is a really stupid argument. i am all for chastity even within marriage but to argue it must be that way because non-procreational sex is misuse of genitals is retarded
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>>41756295
this is the truth. porn leads to masturbation. masturbation does not necessarily lead to porn. if you jack off occasionally without looking at porn you are much better off than a "retainer" who watches porn still. OBVIOUSLY, it's better to abstain from both porn and masturbation, but if you have to pick one, cut out porn first.

also a general tip for relapses: damage control. do not go on a gooning binge, just accept the loss and move on. your effort is fruitful even if you have just reduced the frequency of seed-spilling.
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>>41762405
yeah i've noticed the shame disappearing. usually i would be very carefully evaluating everything i'm about to say to judge whether it's going to be too weird or not, but on SR i just say it and it's (usually) fine



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