Riddle me this, /x/:If Christianity is a "tool of control", why does every globohomo superpower on the planet push secularism and want you to be atheist?
>>41750643because anti-religion is just a different form of religion.
it was a tool of control since roman timesit was designed this waybut modern times prefer atheism for some reasonthat is, the system has evolved and christianity is vestigial
>>41750664So the modern system prefers atheism for non-specific "reasons"?If the premise is that religious people are easier to control, why would the system shoot itself in the foot and decide "nah we atheist now"? That makes no sense.
>>41750691Its just... it's for some reason okay!!!
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>>41750643The reason atheism is promoted is because it also destroys purpose while controlling the masses. The actual rulers of the system are just as religious as ever.
>>41751069Christianity gives higher purpose and doesn't align with the systems' rulers. Something like Christianity or Islam is very capable of biting them in the ass.
>>41750643You're on to something OP but it's not just secularism/atheism, it's all the alt-spirituality stuff too:Paganism and witchcraft are shilled hard in the media and by corporationsMeditation, mindfulness, and other eastern practices shilled in the media and by corporationsCrystals and incense and tarot cards and all the other new-age commodities ($$$$)Thelema and SatanismAnd bastardized Kabbalah and Sufism, gutted of their Abrahamic religious context, turned into sloppy new-age "philosophies" with no substance.An all-you-can-eat buffet of contradictions, all of it carefully curated based on one single solitary criterion: It gets you to get you to stop thinking about Jesus.The Powers That Be are hostile to to Christianity and ONLY Christianity, and that hostility to Christianity means they will latch on to literally anything, any religion or philosophy, to get you away from thinking about Jesus. Once you've seen it you can't unsee it.The only question is, what are you gonna do about it?
>>41751069>actual rulers of the system are just as religious as ever.No they aren't, they hate Christianity and want to undermine it at any cost. A Christian ruler wouldn't tell his subjects to be atheist, that makes so little sense that I'd be willing to bet it has never happened even once in the history of the faith.
>>41750643>>41751099Secular = anti-religion. Your muh Christianity persecution fetish is cringe. The West is Christian, so it's the main focus. Duh.
>>41750643because christianity means small scale communities. and system cant promote that . your loyalty has to be to the system first, not to your neighbours, people you see in church every sunday, and so on.
>>41751118Why are you replying to both our posts like we're both making the same argument? OP is saying that they're pushing Secularism (anti-religion), I'm saying that they're pushing every religion that isn't Christian, those are two completely different statements, your argument only works for OP's post.
>>41750643another thing is that people sometimes seek religion to guide them in some way, which takes the systems place to guide you
>>41750643Christianity leads you naturally to freedom. Freedom from material constraints, freedom from slave mentalities and freedom from vices which chain you to this earth.
>>41751125 You're both peddling the same persecution fantasy. Who do you think secularists and leftists will focus on? The dominant religion in the West. What a shock.
going back to small scale communities like i already mentioned - theyre a danger to the system. why do you think theyre still trying to further break family ties? you should cut ties with family if they voted x, you should move out as soon as you can or youre a loser, the plague of articles on how awful and difficult it is to have kids, how awful daughters in law are, how awful parents in law are, how family isnt dictated by blood but who you choose, and so on. obviously it backfires with low birth rates, people are lonely, depressed, and so on. the system is a snake that eats its own tail. but it needs you to create and consume so the economy can grow, and technology can progress.
so it tries to convince people that creating something for themselves is bad (family is oppression, having kids will ruin your life, relationships - pushing gender wars), finding your way outside the system, spirituality, and so on is something that keeps your loyalty on something other than the system.
and it is only the matter of the fact that the system in the west isnt as good in capitalising religion as it is in other places. i read that in israel you go to war if you arent an orthodox jew and have lots of kids. but jews are especially good at this stuff
>>41751135not OP but yeah that's my take toohonestly I've come to the realization after years of studying various religions (and magical systems etc., used to be a huge /omg/ nerd) that Esoteric Christianity is the only path that leads to any kind of liberation in this life, let alone the one to come. Christ died for our salvation and it is by virtue of that sacrifice that he has power over all the malevolent spirits that jerk us around at every opportunity, and most people have no idea how utterly pozzed with demons they are. Demonic possession is way more common than the mainstream churches re letting on, and literally only a Christian even has the POTENTIAL to exercise free will, and most of them choose not to, because they naively assume that free will is just something that every human naturally possesses, and not a skill that has to be cultivated lolol
>>41751146and we know from history that religion is often a haven in oppressive systems. like catholicysm in poland during the comunism
>>41751139No we aren't, the word "persecution" appears zero times in this thread until you showed up. No one's saying Christians are "persecuted", and you have no capacity to persecute us (lol loser) in the first place, God bless your heart
>>41751191>and you have no capacity to persecute us (lol loser) in the first placeThat's because it's not real.
>>41751209no, you'd persecute us if you could. But you can't (pussy)
>>41750643Globohomo controls both sides. They subvert popular movements and redirect them for their benefit.
>>41750643Secularism as a state ideology makes it easier to capture disparate religious groups and atheists into worshiping the same common imperial narrative. Religions are too rigid of a control structure and can't tolerate contradictions, so modern societies have worked around this issue by adopting a more amorphous and fluid control structure, subsuming all others transparently. But since religions are now secondary and no longer needed to believe in the system, it of course has a preference that you abandon it all together. After all, wouldn't things work so much more smoothly if you did?
>>41750643What are the most readily available religious temples and services?
>>41750643They dont, they want you to walk into their established avenues of controlled opposition. Like being a goy, or if you aren't, being a luciferian slave class.
>>41750643>Everyone and everything is God - animism (the truth). >There is a large cohort of Gods of varying or equal power that control the natural forces of reality - Polytheism.>There is a Divine family with one Supreme God, his Goddess wife, and their Divine children and a council of semi-divine (angels) servants, advisors, soldiers, and the like - Henotheism.>There is only one God, and that God is the supreme ruler and creator of everything. - Monotheism.>Maybe there's a God or some kind of Source, but it's unknown and ultimately doesn't really matter - Agnosticism.>There is no God, everything is made of matter and energy, and aside from the one free miracle needed at the beginning of the universe there's no need for intelligent design whatsoever - Atheism.It's a process - a slow boil. Monotheism is already several stages removed from the truth; secularism is just the end goal. If you truly believe that you are nothing more than stardust with nothing animating you other than electrical impulses powered by the chemical reactions of minerals and elements - you will be. We are all God, but believing you are not will make you so. That's the whole goal of this process - it makes you easy to control by others who know they are God but seek to abuse that Truth on those who reject it. Very interesting.
>>41751359Monism, animism is a wee bit complexer
>>41751116Religious does not equal Christian.
>>41751359You got animism, henotheism, agnosticism, and atheism wrong.
>>41750643they don't. the current US president is a Christian for fuck's sake
>>41750643It's not that they push atheism, it's that they push materialism, and, specifically, the worship of money and material goods. Not explicit worship - very few people make shrines for money and so on - but the implicit push for people to have it dominate their every waking thought."I don't have enough money for this, so I must get more." "I can just about afford this, and its allure is enough to entice me even though it'll be hard to live comfortably afterwards." And so on. Constantly revolving around the purse, the card, the wallet. Remove the obsession with money for a few months and suddenly the person is alive again. They can breathe, they can feel, and they can regain their will and capacity for genuine explicit worship or love of something which is higher than themselves, rather than a low materialist abstraction. It doesn't matter too much what that higher entity is, as long as it's aligned with the Holy. I just hope more people get to have this experience.I got it when I was removed from university and helped to get benefits by a friend, and later when I was homeless for a couple of months and zeroes out my account for the first time. Both of them revelations. Such freedom! Freedom to move, breathe, live again. I live outside the system now, a spiritual NEET on a journey of transformation. I love my life, and I love being me. I have no real problems to speak of because my basic material needs are met and I simply don't allow myself to become obsessed with the acquisition of the latest hot item. I am a free agent, and I wish that upon you also.Back in Biblical times, idol worship was so rampant that God had to step in and forbid it in the very First Commandment. These days, the injunction in Matthew 6:24 holds true also in important new ways: 24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
>>41750643Because the rulers are divided and don't always work together like the Templars vs assassins freemasons.
>>41750643>Christianity is a "tool of control",https://youtu.be/6xlNEJcdra0
>>41750643It's step two of separation from real divinity.1. Fake divinity2. Divinity is obvs fake, let's skip it.
>>41751407His base is but he isn't. He never put his hand on the Bible and he let slip in a speach " he is not a Christian." There are rumors that he converted to Judaism Thoughhttps://youtu.be/Dx4pexT6pkssi=dBEi57qnraqdJ7bz
>>41750643>secularismsecularism is just christianity without the medieval godother than that, it's basically the same shit
>>41751383>>41751387Useless semantics - the point still stands. It is a peeling of the spiritual onion, with the goal of destroying faith entirely. You are missing the forest through the trees.
>>41750664>but modern times prefer atheism for some reasonI guess because even with all the kike corruption that turned Christianity into a piece of turd it still holds values that the kikes despise
>>41750643Russel brand Alex Jones have been pissing it hard and also its got a major bump when Charlie Kirk Got Merked. Its abvious they are doing in to for support of Isreal, The degeneracy dialectic was getting old so they needed to swing it back to Chrtianity to prep Americans to die in more mideast wars.https://youtu.be/p2_p_qwIyZ4
>>41751209>Candida MossThe literal cosmic death fungus wrote a book about how “religion is fake and gay”?
>>41751721>the point still standsDoes it? The point depends a lot on you being able to accurately see the world and it's movements, and you got most of your descriptors wrong.You talk about faith, but there is no faith in you as a proper medium of communication.For all we know, you are part of this agenda and your misrepresentations are deliberate in order to cloud people's minds.
>>41750643truly you are a hero! destroy the non believers and make everyone sla- christians! you are a holy warrior! but remember, turn the other cheek when it comes to israel
>>41750643What the heck?!
every empire for 2000 years used cuckstianity to control its slaves lmaoalso secularism isn't pushed. not a single one of your political grifters like kirk, shapiro, peterstein, etc are atheist. christcuck desperately wants to push his oppressed victim narrative while he's the one killing people for not worshiping jewstickman
>>41751874What? Dont get me twisted motherfucker I hate Israel,
>>41751226nobody wants to, they want you stop being weird and telling others how to live.
>>41752388you literally subscribe to a religion where you acknowledge a jewish man is god, jewish culture is divine and jews have to take over the world as part of gods perfect plan.
>>41750643Same reason Apple kills your old iPhone.
>>41750643 It wasn't till Paul rebranded it and it was later adopted by the Roman Empire. It had been used as control tool like this for CENTURIES, read some history. Globo-bobo is the result of the modernism. They use secularist faiths, like scientism, and other MKultra brainwashing. They let you have you Jesus. Look at the Zionist Frankists loop American pastors into support for Israeli genocide.Not much of a riddle if you just think about it. And read about it, which I have.
>>41750643Because they are out of the closet, and the sex cult "religions" are in the closet.
>>41751162they worship the demiurge who cares. They will be ashamed in the afterlife. Dante wrote a book about babies in Hell. According to their belief system, your crime is being born.
>>41750643Everything needs an inversion to exist on this realm. By pushing against it they are also pushing for it. Depends on the observer.
>>41751851Literally the exact same can be said for you, so that's a useless argument.
>>41751851Also, for the record - in the CIA handbook on sabotaging organizations from within, one of the first & arguably most effective techniques for disrupting organizational operations was to quibble over every little rule, every little term & position. To actively create friction as often as possible. That's you. Take care!
Because they want to control you too.
>>41752813Except I am not presenting any claim.beyond the definitions of the words used, and I am not saying I am authority here, as I would simply point to the multiple authorities that disagree and contradict what has been claimed.
>>41752816If that is the tactic, why are you quibbling?Just admit you were wrong and we could move on.Your understanding of those terms is bad, and you should correct it instead of poisoning the well for your misinformation.
>>41750643Atheism isn't pushed, religion just isn't enforced anymore by secular libarl countries (aka countries that aren't third world shitholes). You can be religious if you want to but it isn't a requirement anymore. The christcuck though in his eternal victim complex will this interpret as a personal attack and a deliberate attempt to harm him and whipe him out.
>>41752222>KirkChristian, got m̶a̶r̶t̶i̶r̶e̶d̶ shot.>(((Shapiro))...>Peterstein(((Cultural))) christian, ie. cuck, christianity without Christ
it's a trap to get you to deliberately seek controlreverse psychology at it's simplest
>>41751069> Whom have I in heaven but you?And earth has nothing I desire besides you.> Psalm 73:25Satan’s world of deep unhappiness is essentially corrupt is a truism evident at life’s every turn. Everything decays. Nothing good lasts. Sin and evil are ubiquitous. And not too far down the road in every individual life lies the grave, the reward and legacy awaiting us all, no matter how blissful or disappointing our lives have been in the interim. Only God is truly meaningful here on earth, if we would but search for Him. Only Jesus Christ offers a solution to the futility of life and the inevitability of death, if only we would believe in Him. Only on the other side of this life is there true meaning, true fulfilment, true and lasting happiness, when we are at last re-united with the God who loved us enough to sacrifice His Son on our behalf, if only we have chosen Him in this present life over the deceptive vanities of the devil’s world. Until that time, like our first parents Adam and Eve before us, we have been left in this strange and alien world where the blinding reality of God is largely obscured from view, revealed almost exclusively in His Word to those who seek Him out. Until that time, we wait for something better as homeless wanderers in a world which finds our perspective and our hope worthless, even idiotic. But by our faith and the actions that faith produces, we show the world that we are not of it, do not love it, and acknowledge that we have no true part in it – except for the God who is the focus and the object of our love all the days of our sojourning here in the devil’s inhospitable desert
>>41751099Truthpilled anon. God Bless.When observing anti-Christian shills, you'll notice they never formulate arguments in favor of their preferred belief system. They never give you details about what they believe and why you should believe it too. What is their doctrine? Where do their morals come from? Which God do they worship, if any? No, all they do is attack Christianity and Christians. They insult Christ, they insult you for believing in Him. They try to conflate Christianity with modern day Judaism as a way to appeal to the overarching anti-Jewish sentiment of /pol/. They try to conflate Christianity with typically leftist positions using cherry-picked propaganda that represents the complete opposite of the average case (for example claiming that Christians are pro-mass immigration, or pro-gay rights). They post anti-Christian images, memes etc. but never anything pro-whatever they believe. They claim that Christianity "destroyed" the West and made Europe weak, but they never tell you how the West can be saved (aside from you not following Christ of course).There is a reason for all of this: They genuinely don't care what you believe, so long as you stop believing in Christ. Their goal is not to convert you to some non-existent Pagan religion, or Marxism, or atheism; and it's certainly not to save the West. Their goal is simply to turn you away from the truth; to demoralize you. To strip you of your identity and your heritage. If you are not following Christ, they are happy. If you are confused, conflicted, and hopeless, they are happy.They are, quite literally, doing the bidding of Satan. They are Jews; the children of Satan spoken of by Christ (John 8:44, Revelation 2:9, Revelation 3:9)
Your physical body that's getting older and that gets sick is your prison in this dimension.You have a whole lifetime to make your choice.Life ot death.You choose death.As soon as you squirted out of your Mammy's womb (Vesica Pieces)you started to die and get old.You were concieved in sin.While your mommy was getting a horny orgasm.The female is cursed with blood (every month)because she brings you into thie physical prison (your temporal body that gets old,sick,and dies) You get to get temporary escape when you sleep and dream.I have a black light bulb in a can fixture pointing up.I found out in summer bugs fly into it in their Nirvana (They navigate by light) they think they found heaven! Dump it out and hundreds of dead bugs found what you are after.We Christians are the bugs that take a step back and consider slowly crawling out of the lamp. eg.You're the bug that burns out mystified by the light bulb that burns you up and don't even want to escape the trap.You think that the temporal prison body is all there is!Enjoy yourself bug brain!Locked In: How to Escape Your Prison (BY JONATHAN KLECK)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9J_ivMwTxcSet aside your religious stereotypes and learn about your prison.This dimension is a prison.You are food for the devil.We want out. Stop being ignorant.You are death.