>>41760606
it really does accomplish everything, its destroys greed and envy, it keeps you from comparing yourself to others

>>41760606
Do you have definitive proof of that because I used detachment from the animal nature to achieve objectively measurable results. Not to say Buddhism is the end all be all truth, because it isj't but there's a grain of truth in everything even the things that seem foreign to you OP.

>>41760606
Ever since I realized that my impulses are natural and not flaws imposing into me that I should sterilize for some abstract ideal that doesn't hold tangible weight.

>>41760622
>imposing
*imposed

>>41760606
when i realized the desire to be free from desires is in of itself a desire

>>41760606
Desire was never meant to be erased, it's meant to lead you toward God in one way or another.

>>41760634
yeah but where does that desire go when you reach your goal? hmmm

>>41760606
Isn't the goal to understand desire? Remove it's ability to control?

>>41760647
wouldnt you still have the desire to maintain the lack of desire?

>>41760647
Nowhere. Duh. If he's desiring to be free from desire, he transforms into an ouroboros.

>>41760606
you're wrong, desire is a plague upon our world, rapists, politicians, extremists, all of them are driven by desire, for control, for indulgence, for validation.
it all begin when the "i want something" begin to assert itself over others' expense, which is pretty much everyone on this godforsaken planet

>>41760665
Is it not an extension of the idea of "zen". Not being at "peace" or "tranquility" but accepting that the horrors of the world simply are? Desire will always be there to some degree (even the desire to have no desire).
>>41760667
KEK

>>41760680
that makes sense. not all desires are bad in Buddhism but tanha desires are

>>41760695
I'll start looking into buddhism in a serious way!
Piqued my interest with that concept.

>>41760742
it is a very interesting tradition. i will probably try learning about it some more too

>>41760606
Desire's the engine of samsara and I used to floor that shit.

I got into buddhism first when i began my journey. I thought i was ascending because i stopped desiring money, women, pleasures etc.
This only led to misery. I was a NEET, wasting away, being resentful, i was also stressed
Now, i am still not materialistic, but i accept desire as a driving force of life, and the importance of participation
To put simply, it is not really something fully compatible with western life. Western path is success and enlightenment through the world, Eastern is success and enlightenment by transcending it.
I also think all this is misunderstood, fundamentally. Buddhism is something to be experienced, not intellectualised. I believe buddhism starts at level 50, intermediate level. Better to start on western system then move to buddhism later, then its clearer what exactly the middle path is, what non-doing is, etc etc
Jewish mysticism, interestingly, is the exact opposite. They say desire is great, and god plants the desires in your mind in the first place.

>>41760622
you should always be aware of their effect and have them wrangled

>>41760615
Living in the mountains might do that, not Buddhism specifically.

>>41760861
it is my dream to live in a self sufficient home in the mountains next to a stream.
You should get rid of external desires regardless of religion

Buddhism has some good points

People who worship him as a god are weird though (any religion that tries this is false)

But he knows non-participation and neutral emotions = shitting on archons

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>>41760606
as other have said acceptance>detachment

>>41760606
then the Bhagavad Gita is a scam aswell.

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>>41760606
The trick is that you actually have to have a lot of desire and a strong sense of self to develop the path that will eventually allow you to let go of your sense of self and the desires that lead to rebirth.hard enough to realize the deathless.

It's like if you were tied to a metal bar with some rope. Ultimately, you want to get away from the bar, but if you try to do only that you likely just tighten the rope harder. Instead you may have to maneuver carefully going toward and away from the bar until you get yourself into a position where you can most easily untie it, and only after the rope is untied can you simply walk away.

Or so they say. I wouldn't know.

attachments.desire.all that you crave are what draw souls back to the material plain

>>41760634
and you strengthen your desire to be free of desire so much , that you forget of the capital D Desires and thus the desire vanishes.
Its like snake bitting its own tail

>>41760665
Desire arise, they come and go, just like thoughts. You don't constantly think the same thought, that would possessiv thoughts and not healthy.
The Buddha taught dependent origination, how desire form and arise. When you objectively observe, detached from identifying yourself with thoughts and desire, through meditative practices you free yourself from desire, suffering and expected outcome.
Buddha = awakened, to see clearly, enlightened, what's hidden in the dark become visible in light.

If you desire nirvana you have to practice letting go as the act of letting go is nirvana, it's a state of mind. Desire = chase/hunt, it's satisfied when you catch it, until desire arise again and you have to hunt again. It's an endless cycle of hunting temporary satisfaction, until you let go and realize there's nothing of substances to find outside yourself that can permanently satisfy you, since everything is inherently empty in nature.
The original state of mind is the awakened Buddha mind.

>>41760606
So you successfully detached from desire and was like "I didn't accomplish anything"?
You're on the wrong board.

Hu?

>>41760606
Buddhism is trying to detach from the matrix while still being in it. There is wisdom in this, and great relief, but not the end purpose in life. It's a tool that should be used wisely, moderately

After all, we were born into flesh, in a material world, slaves to genetics, chemistry, environment, etc. what you can call "fate", for a reason. It is meant to be experienced to a certain degree

>>41760606
>detaching from desire
!= mastering desires so that they no longer take over the driver's seat where action is concerned
the only scam you'll find in buddhism is people giving way too much money to temples

>>41762891
>end purpose in life
What is?
>It is meant to be experienced to a certain degree
Yes, but why and to what end?

>>41760606
>detaching from desire doesn't actually accomplish anything
that's the point, you move beyond a goal orientated life. In a Japanese zendo you would've lost your head on the first day.

>>41760606
Desires cease by themselves when you allow them to express and understand their impermanent nature
What the fuck do you think desires are for other than stepping stones for understanding the true nature of reality? Idiot

>>41760606
>religion founded by a prince
>"yes you have to get rid of everything valuable and any desire for economic development because uhh... ilumination yes"
its extremly convenient for people who already got a fortune, especially considereing that when more people become rich less status does all that money give

dont detach from desire, the suffering actually comes from your lack of power to acomplish them.

>>41760606
I tried joining a Buddhist group at my local college and they were just as retarded as the christians

>>41763875
this dumbass missed the part about siddartha walking away from all that
but dont let that sully your meme about being rich and hanging out cultivating all day

>>41760606
>detach from desire
>accomplish something
Congrats OP you BTFO’d yourself at the first step

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>>41763923
Lol most college groups about any subject remotely esoteric is just going to be larp, what did you expect.

Also, 300Gb of EVERYTHING about Buddhism
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,rise up

>>41760606
Buddhism is a good way to waste your entire life chasing enlightenment. That's like chasing women or buses, you will always get left behind.

>>41763923
A lot of them are very nice communist.

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Tell em Peter

>>41766262
Samsrara

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When I sat under a tree for an afternoon and realized that nothing significantly meaningful and fulfilling will happen if I'm not proactively engaging reality.
I think transforming your life into passionate art through heroic struggles is the ultimate form of spending a lifetime.

>>41767884
Every life should be dedicated to wizardry or you're a gay faggot. Making more suffering movies for jesters is very goy coded.

>>41760606
>scam

disagree. the most important lessons I have ever learned came from the Buddha.

1- women are nothing more than 9 holes from which all lies, misery, and suffering flow.
2- this world is not worth attaching to, therefore life is a continuing process of detachment to free us.

people always smile at how profound buddhism is until we start talking about those core truths.

>>41760606
It accomplishes everything here and now. You half-assed practice it and just felt detached because you didn't understand the premise.

>>41762676
also, this.