This thread is being made in case someone wants to ask questions about spirituality and the nature of the self.
Why am I me and not someone else?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertiginous_question
>>41765116You are not even yourself. Your whole world of experiences and cognition is just a small sphere without any real limit between the sphere and the not-sphere, which is a vast indefinite being which contains all others, like an infinite net. If one would lose the habit of objectifying oneself to this small focus of experience then the whole would be made manifest. Why is this sphere of experiences not another? Well that's a silly question, like asking why that certain grain of sand in the desert is not the other grain in the same desert on another point. Both are situated in the desert and depend on the desert for its footing; and both are the desert itself.
>>41765106>>417651061) Should I focus on making the best out of my lot in life or in escaping this prison-like world by some spiritual and / or sacrificial means? I know nobody can answer this but me but I’m curious what your response might be.2) Who can I worship if I haven’t been brought up religious? It feels like shopping for a car digging around for the right God. Perverse. And I’m not sure doing it alone is even worth it.
>>41765412The world isn’t a prison. It’s a rollercoaster. The bars are there to keep you safe and the ride is short. Religion is about community, the worship part is secondary. Just go to churches until you find one that feels right and give it your all.Whether this is a ride or a jail the only wrong choice is indecision.
>>41765452Well that last part rings true.
1. By all means go for it and reach the supreme realization of the Self, the true transcendental limitless body of Reality. Realization of immortality is greater than every single thing that can be achieved by means of experience in an infinite amount of dimensions and universes; to transcend life and death is the most amazing thing in the infinite Creation, to reach the pure Bliss found in the Body of Reality and to remain in it is incomparable, there is nothing greater than it; and you lose nothing, you can even keep your body and your small focus of ego consciousness; you only lose the hallucinations of ignorance. If you feel the calling, then go for it, you won't regret it in the end. Life is short and to invest yourself in secular activities is meaningless, like punching air; you die and go empty handed to another round of experience, whereas by reaching realization you will accomplish rejoicing forever.
>>41765412Who should you worship? That Goddess which is Supreme and reigns over all that is manifested and unmanifested, the transcendental Pure Intelligence behind all egos, all perceptions, all universes and all modes of cognition. The formless, beyond formless all-powerful Consciousness, the Goddess, or God; Supreme Reality. The Source Itself of everything that exists, the source of all power. Without She nothing is done and all is done through her. It is She, the Supreme Good to be realized, it is She who is behind you and is your very creatrix. We are all in Her Body of Reality and thus only She possesses all the able means and can save individuals from the round of unceasing suffering; She is singular without a second. Understand Her as completely all powerful and beyond all limitation, worship Her, and the blessings and all the answers will come. Don't even bother worshipping limited gods with characteristics because those are, well, limited, and they also are contained by God; but only God, the Goddess, is herself uncontained and fully unbound in her transcendency. Moreover, you have a spark of this same God in your heart, invoke it and let it vibrate through you and in you. It is the only Master and religion you need.
>>41765718I am just not interested in rejoice.
>>41765802Highest rejoicing, Pure Pleasure is your real nature itself beyond the confines of ignorance and incorrect knowledge. It's doesn't matter if you're not interested, Pure Existence is Pleasure in its highest form. Moreover, Realization doesn't imply only the revelation of this ever-present rejoicing; it also reveals and liberates Intelligence from the fixation into a limited image; utter fearlessness, ultimate potential and freedom to dwell in all abodes are made manifest.
Suffering is so lamentable and agonizing, why should we take part in it? It's better to push through and get out of the wheel of repetitive, endless stress. Asking the light in the heart for help is the first step; She will see things through.
>>41765718Any advice for attaining this state?>>41765780Does She have a name?
>>41765850Yeah I just don't feel those work in my life right now
>>417651061. where does having children come into all of this? what's the significance in terms of the totality of it all but in reference to the now of black earth?2. what's the significance behind wanting to be a game developer in this period?3. why does it feel like i'm being pushed and pulled in every direction simultaneously off of my middle of the road path?4. The constant signs are low key insufferable does it get worse or better, i still have no idea if it's a sign to stop or encouragement due to question #3. (i'm talking gift of the godess, "bad luck but not too bad", knocks, specific animals in weird places appearing alive or dead, animal noises punctuating thoughts, animals noises that sound like laughter, knocks on walls/ceiling/roof/doors, flickering lights. etc)This was all extremely innate to me when I was younger but it was gaslit out of me. I'm guessing the convenience/inconvenience of everything having a subtle tech conspiracy explanation for it all is intentional to give me a choice or turn me into some kind of techmage?
>>41765889>Any advice for attaining this state?Listen, you have never been born and will never die, you are not the body nor anything with a name at all; you are not even what is called a human being. Right now, this state that you think of is already present in yourself, it is not something to be made anew or brought about, it is not outside yourself in any way because there is nothing outside yourself. You are already It, undefined limitless Being, Supreme Reality beyond any creator or creation. So what's the problem then? Only wrong thinking. You think yourself a body with so-and-so characteristics; you imagine yourself a limited mind-consciousness inhabiting a brain that inhabits a body that inhabits a house that is situated on a planet and so forth. It's all wrong. The reality is that the brain, the mind, the body and the planet is IN you, in your non-objective, not-limited True Body. All these elements are similar to images inside a crystal, no matter what colors and plays of light appear in it, the crystal is unaffected and ever stable, and so is yourself in reality. Start investigating yourself intelligently and questioning all these "truths" you have been living through all your life. Who am I? Ask yourself this constantly. Be aware of your thoughts and how you identify yourself with the body and environments through mental impressions. In short: start paying constant attention to your inner world of thoughts, concepts and feelings with a mind of curiosity and no judgement. Cultivate silence, in silence Reality itself gleams and removes ignorance. Pay attention to the space between one thought and another, there is a quality of Pure Intelligence there untainted by ignorance, learn to remain in it and recognize it constantly. That is the Supreme State itself... in an unmanifested form.
>>41765106What is meant by stealing hearts? What mythical /historical reference does this come from?
>>41765106What does a bot know about the nature of self and humanity?
>>41766011Ok so is the male awakening always mid 30's?I've been pretty sure of my path for a very long time. Bringing the creations that pop up in my head into the real world. And I've been on that path for awhile it just seems like it was made harder artificially so i could awaken now instead of sooner?My only internal flaws I have been aware of have been lack of stamina, lack of concentration and perfectionism. Which i've tried to tackle multiple ways. Even when I don't i get the terry davis effect of my efforts being hampered artificially. Now that i'm awakened and i can see into my past at all the manipulation and outside hand that got me to where i am... I don't really get it. This feels like yet another deeper fell for it again award around the corner. >just believetold to me a thousand times already it didn't seem to work so now it does?
>>41765889Above all, the most important thing is sincerity, fervor, to work ardently full of passion for realization. Be it one stupid or intelligent, wise or ignorant, sinful or saintly, the ones closest to the Goddess and the best seekers are those who are sincere and fervently desire release and realization. Those are the very best. Keep this desire, this impelling force always constant in your heart and make your whole life a homage to it and you will certainly reach your aim. >Does She have a name?Any name you want, as long as it is a demonstration of utmost respect. Call Her Mother, Master, Goddess, God, Supreme Consciousness, Pure Intelligence, you choose it. Names are only references, don't let them be a limitation. Always remember that the Goddess is utterly all powerful and limitless, and beyond any characteristics and trappings of categories. See Herself in everything and see everything as the expression of Her own Power. Devote yourself to her in everything you do and there's no way you won't reach the end of your search, which is Herself. As Jesus Christ said: I am the Path, The Truth and The Life. The life itself that courses through your veins and in all the planet is itself the expression of the Goddess. The path to realization is the expression of the Goddess; and the Supreme Realization itself and its resultant state is itself the Goddess. Always remember that there is a living spark of Herself in your heart, connect with it and let it guide you through life.
ok i'm a dreamer that is an anchor for this realm to exist and you funny fellows are just rabbit hole farming meholy molyanswer my questions like is this just a test to see if i still want to follow fantasy and not just hecking live and mean it? i know you know i know the depths of this and how far back it extendsis this a projection/gaslight loop, i'm just projecting and gaslighting a mirror that's bouncing back at me?
>>41766046Don't be discouraged by your flaws, keep pushing through. Failing and getting up again and again is a most fragrant sacrifice, it helps you and purifies you in many ways you don't know of. You only need to be sincere, you think yourself a small wave having to wade through titanic distances and overcome impossible obstacles... but the wave, even while ignorant of it, is still the ocean and has never been not the ocean. So trust in the ocean itself and in its immeasurable power... even the obstacles are in the ocean and part of it; and in truth you have no flaws, the flaws are not yours and never were. Don't be impatient because everything has a timing, a perfect timing and harmony indeed. And even now you are outside time, in truth, and so then you have all the time in the world for your task. Go through all the movements you need to go in life, be it them from work, family, attachments, pleasure, pain and so forth but always keep to your noble purpose and devotion to it in your heart as your number one priority. >told to me a thousand times already it didn't seem to work so now it does?How do you know it's not working? Because you're not flying in the sky like superman? You're still in your mid 30's, you're so young and maybe has accomplished much already... masterpieces shouldn't be rushed, be attent to every little detail and then sooner rather than later you're going to see the beautiful picture.
Very powerful thread for me thanks.
>>41766092She hates this reflective stuff more than pretty much everything else, just ignore it as needless buffering and her too if she does not have a better solution than me.
>>417660031. Having children is not an impediment to wisdom, disinterest is the only impediment to it. The general movements of life like having children or working specific jobs are due to destiny; countless factors conflate and produce events and convergences, you end up having children due to these convergences. Meanwhile all these movements are like images in a mirror, the mirror, the transcendental body keeps being stable, unfixed, and ever unbothered. Realize yourself to be that Intelligence which is ever stable and peaceful and then children and the current state of the world and its trappings will seem trivial since you're always outside of it, what would it matter to you if the atomic bombs would fall tomorrow?2. The mind has inclinations and likes and dislikes. You are not the mind.3. Life happens and events in it move us deeply and make us stumble and suffer and so on. It happens with everyone and it's due to destiny. Peace, the true middle way is found beyond the mind and the body, in the true body of non-objective pure intelligence. Recognize it and stay in it and you will soon stop caring about ups and downs. You are much more vast than a single human body.
>>417660034. Signs are like tinnitus, stop paying attention to them and they will vanish of their own accord. It's your interest in them that make them appear to you; "signs" more often than not are harmful because it makes the mind prideful and feeling important or obsessed; moreover, signs are irrelevant, life happens irrespective of them. There is a perfect synchrony to everything and so everything is a sign to the keen eye. Minds are innumerable and so each one comes with specific dispositions, with more or less skills, capacities, inclinations and obsessions. But the mind, which is the ego, is not really there when analyzed with wisdom, only the vague impression of it, and the impression of something is only the impression itself. You are not the mind nor its dispositions nor any signs that appear in it.
>>41766092Everything that can be perceived is a projection, an image inside the mirror of transcendent consciousness. You are the mirror, and so you are always beyond any images that may appear in it; only wrong thinking and identification with the images in the mirror makes it so you gaslight yourself into thinking you can be affected by them, and so then an impression of being affected is born; then comes fear, attachment, desire, confusion, anger and all the rest of it. There are no tests here, only your desires shaping your reality. Know yourself to be beyond any images and you will not suffer with any gaslighting anymore.
>>41766221Alright, you're welcome.
>>41765940Yeah, life is tough. I apologize if I maybe have seemed insensible to any of your troubles. What can one say to another that is going through hard times? I can only sincerely hope and wish that good winds reach you soon. Everything passes away....
>>41766330>>41766361Alright cool thank you best posts ever.
i cant stop hating life and everything in it, i hate the sky and earth and sun and every animal on the earth, i hate them so very much and so deeply, what do i do ?
>>41766502Hate hurts, Hate hurts very deeply, I'm sorry you feel that way. At the end of it hate is an expression of love, it is because you love something that you hate something other. Constraint and limitation causes hate. Would you hate if you were vast like the sky? Vast like the variety of all life on earth? Hate and bother would be a small thing then, a very tiny point in a very big field. See that you hate so much because you think yourself so small, and from that love of the small comes the big energy of hate. In truth that great energy itself is a sign you are much more than the small thing you think yourself to be; the pervasiveness of the hatred is itself the very testament of limitation: make yourself, realize yourself as vast as the sky and you will stop hating, there is no other way. You are not a small person nor you are a small mind confined in a body. You are vast like the blue sky and unrestrained like space. Investigate yourself and remain in the space between one thought and another, between one perception and another; between one instant of hatred and another instant of hatred there is a pure, undiluted instant of pure pleasure; recognize it and stay in it. Expand it until there is no room for hate anymore.
>>41766561In the space-moment between a perception of hatred and another perception, there is a fleeting experience of undefinability where there is no ego, no mind, no hatred and no world. This fleeting experience is itself the experience of the transcendental body in itself; if one should learn to recognize it and remain in it, then all ignorance will vanish eventually and the transcendental body will be fully recognized eventually.
>>41766585hi, what are benefits remaining in this transcendental body? How does it change one's life?
No question needs answering, 33rd degree idiot, no contract, no oath, pure unfettered love and need to tell tell the truthalso everyone on the other side, i love you so much and im comingespecially her :)))))))) very much especially her,
>>41766299>2. The mind has inclinations and likes and dislikes. You are not the mind.why so? Spirits also have likes and dislikes. Your own core sets the tone of your affinities. You decide to look at a tree or at your shoe. You can also lapse in focus and let autopilot take over or you keep to your true will and dont let some haze envelop you so you live your lucid self.To say one is not the mind is narrow and perhaps more suited for people who's minds are subject to feelings, emotions, daydreaming or other lower desires. I would even go so far as to say that you are your body in its whole, because it is the only vessel you have that will affect this world for now. You decide what you do every day and your actions compound over time. That's ownership of your life and path. That's what you are. Not potential but how you decide to use it.
>>41766050>Call Her Masternot how this works, o wise one
>>41765106Why do demons seethe so hard at christs name?Why do Freemasons and other elite have to oblige by some kabbalistic ritual in order to do stuff to us?
>>41765106>people are nothingSure thing Satan! Let me just corrupt myself inwardly to play with shit that in regards to the bigger picture, does nothing but fucks myself over.
>>41765106I'm in love with whoever wrote that.
>>41767560It changes everything... everything. It's like getting a pair of wings and being able to fly... it's like falling into the sky and being without any tension... like acquiring a new pair of eyes while having your old eyes still... it's like loving a woman that loves you back... What happens is that the mind is fixated onto the small sphere of cognitions, being a personality and a body etc.; the mind itself accords with the racial characteristics of the species, in our case, a human being, and limits its vast qualities and capacities in accordance to that species. When one abides in the transcendental state that can be found between one perception and another, the limited, qualified mind then temporarily dissolves into its original, limitless state. Getting used to it, the mind-ego starts identifying with the non-objective infinite expanse while still abiding as itself, like being two persons at once. Then as realization grows the limited ego identity slowly loses its conditioning power and factors such as suffering, desire, pain, vanish, only leaving the pure pleasure of existence. One is still the body and the ego but simultaneously also the vast infinite expanse.
are there ever threads about cultivation and all that chinese xian shit on here? Don't think I've ever seen one.
>>41767844why interpret it in that way? Most people this text are referring to are the myopic negative or judgemental type.
>>41769379You say I'm immortal but what does that mean, will i age, will my body die but i continue, what would happen after my physical death, can i choice what to do after i die, like do i have free rain to do whatever and do i still have my sense of self, i like my selfsorry for all the question
>>41769379>Getting used to it, the mind-ego starts identifying with the non-objective infinite expanseThis too, is simply another form of "tunnel vision", in the same way that your mind is "tunnel visioned" onto your current body. Or rather "fixated onto the small sphere of cognitions", as you put it.You want to put an end to fixation, not merely shift it to something more expansive. As ultimately, even that expansive experience is subject to ending.
what do with vasanas?
>>41769379>When one abides in the transcendental state that can be found between one perception and another> the limited, qualified mind then temporarily dissolves into its original, limitless statethanks I understand.
>>41769450Listen, right now while you think you are a body possessed of a mind, you have another body which cannot be defined and transcends all categories, characteristics and cannot be described in any way. This true body of yours does not have size nor form, and is utterly undestructible and unchangeable; since it doesn't have any kind of form or characteristic, it cannot be said to exist, yet it exists in this mode of non-existence. Being not existent while still existing as so, is totally outside the range of death and life, and that is the meaning of immortality. Since it doesn't have any kind of form and is not even formless, then this true body of yours is also not subjected to "limitation" - it totally transcends at all times any categories of existence such as dimension, time and space. Being without limit, one's true body pervades all the expanse of all space and all time at all times. Now, a parenthesis. Your meat body will die because it is a product of time and space, it is subjected to change and can be destroyed, same with the mind, which is the intellectual thinking consciousness, which can dissolve along with the body. Those two are your changeful bodies which you ascribe all your existence to; you fear, desire and feel aversion because you operate through the lens of these two limited bodies, and there is a big world out there separated from you which you must interact with and attract or repel yourself from it based on your desires. This separation is basically the cause of suffering, your body + your mind and the external factor called "everything that is not your body and not your mind" which can be called "world". Time marches on and your body decays, ending with the mind experiencing "death". Then the mind arises again and has an experience of "the afterlife", then after some time it dissolves and a new mind arises in a new body somewhere. That's the official process at least. But is it really true?
>>41769450What about your true body which is not subject to limitation? Wasn't it said that it pervades all space and all time? Since it pervades all space and all time at all points, the logical conclusion is that all space and all time is your very true body itself, at least part of it, contained in it. And since all space and all time is contained in your true body, being in fact your true body, then it turns out that all space and all time themselves transcend space and time; and space and time being themselves transcended means that there is no time in time and no space in space, there is only always your true body abiding in its true mode of existence, which was previously said to be beyond any definitions and limitations. And since your meat body and mind are products of space-time, and being space-time your true body, then it follows that your meat body and your mind are also your transcendental true body, contained in IT, IT ITSELF. And so it follows quite clearly that the notion that there is a meat body and a mind that dies is utterly untenable, because there is no changeability for your true body. And so then it follows that the experience of time and the body that changes, grows old and dies in time is only an hallucination brought about by thought. In fact every object that can be perceived and interpreted as being a discrete entity is only a creation of thought; there is no meat body, no mind and no world, only your true transcendental body at all times. So all that can be objectified and perceived is not valid in itself and is only thought: when you think yourself having a body, that is thought; when you think yourself growing old, "old age" is the thought. And when you die, "death" is the thought. And "afterlife" is also a thought. At all times there you are verily sitting in eternity and has not moved an inch from it.
>>41769450To conclude: your true limitless body defies all descriptors and categories and any kind of objectivity, so one should abandon all knowledge and all thoughts and dwell in silence. Dwelling in silence, being cognizant in it without thinking and without making any efforts (because will is thinking, intention is thinking, effort is thinking), staying in it without distraction which is thought, going beyond all objectifying, then the your true body will be naturally recognized by the mind, like the great sun rising slowly and continuously without any hindrance. Then all questions will cease and you will find yourself where you have always been, in yourself, as yourself, being yourself, forever.
>>41769851Who is the entity who possesses these dispositions(vasanas)? Keep pushing through and ever investigating yourself and denying yourself any notions of objectification. Go beyond any notions that you are a body, a mind or even an entity; always remember that you are vast like the sky. The dispositions may hinder you and give you pain, but push through with courage and don't even give a single thought about failing or never even consider the notion of "impossible". Everything is utterly possible. And remember: failing is good, it is very good. Just work with sincerity and give all your heart. Then the vasanas themselves will be factors for realization instead of obstacles. When realization may be first reached there will still be mental dispositions and suffering even though the transcendental body may be recognized and death overcome once and for all; but it's like the sun rising; after the sun starts rising, it will inevitably reach its maximum brilliance and zenith.
Is it okay to always withdraw from life if I don't look like pic related?
>>41771116>so one should abandon all knowledge and all thoughts and dwell in silencewhat is thinking? who is the one who abandons? who is the one who hoards knowledge (before deciding to abandon it)? How did this thinking mechanism come about?
>>41771116great writing anon. i enjoyed reading :)
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>>41765116Why can’t I be a pretty white girl
>>41765106How do I remote view winning lottery numbers?
