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Post books, movies, documentaries, series whatever that opened your eyes to the world of deceit we live in. Messengers of Deception and Revelations books by Vallee showed me how much and how deep we are manipulated when it comes to the UFO subject.
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>>41772731

third eye spies and cosmic whistleblowers do a pretty good job of uncovering the true puppetmasters.......
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https://youtu.be/rpU51S26hrA?si=kkaVEi-2UHzCO-7x
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>>41772731
FTFY
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Doesn't matter a level 10 deceiver can easy defeat a counsel of max level 999 deceivers.
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>>41772731
proabably Prometheus Rising. there's being decieved by others but there's also self deception which is even worse and harder to spot
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>>41772731
I haven’t actually finished this “Passport to Magonia” book yet but it’s still on my kindle. I read about 1/3 of it and stopped and bought “The Fairy Faith in Celtic Countries” by W Y Evans-Wentz on account of it was Jacques Vallee’s primary source for 90% of what’s in the first half of his book. That’s a good book though, I highly recommend it.
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>>41772731
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>>41775321
It's probably this.
If presented to me, I don't like to immediately believe "omg aliens and UFOs = demons!" but there's a lot of evidence and accounts of deception from these entities over the years.
Inconsistent ideas and motives makes me think they're just playing with us and whatever we're willing to accept and believe about them.
I don't think they're truly from another planet or star system in our galaxy, and the idea that they decided disclosure should only be trusted by the hands of our world leaders is even more troubling.
I am open to what is out there and maybe I'm wrong about all of this, but I get the sense it's not really for the benefit or elevation of our species or consciousness as much as we or they would like to say it is.
Maybe we should elevate our consciousness and more importantly *discernment*.
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>>41775353
I do think it’s more likely that, whatever they are, that they’re from earth and they’ve been here longer than we have than it is that they’re space aliens from another solar system who got here recently. But either way I think the evidence is overwhelming that there are intelligent non-human beings interacting with the earth.
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>>41775380
>they’re from earth
Yeah.
>they’ve been here longer than we have
Nah. I’m like 90% sure they’re the same thing as ghosts, and they come from humans. Ghosts rely on attention to “survive” and these ones figured out they can get more of it by pretending to be space aliens and demand worship.
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>>41775422
Well, not that I necessarily agree with you, but you’d probably enjoy this book. The author collects and catalogues tons of accounts of Celtic folklore, not just the ones that resemble modern abduction events. It’s called the “fairy-faith” for a reason, and he discusses the crossover between fairies and poltergeists, fairies who were once the honored dead, and the similarities between the Celtic afterlife and the mythical fairyland etc… it’s a good read but you might need at least three IQ digits to get into it, it’s pretty dry.
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>>41775321
I tried reading Passport to Magonia but he opened with some comically outdated and incorrect 1970s bullshit about the Mayan civilization and I am unwilling to consume information from someone that unserious.
>>41775476
Is it a scholarly catalog of folklore from which Vallee draws from? Rather than a specifically UFO oriented book?
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>>41775535
>Is it a scholarly catalog of folklore from which Vallee draws from? Rather than a specifically UFO oriented book?

Yeah. It’s one of the most popular primary source that people who write about fairies or Celtic folklore tend to rely on. Also it’s over a hundred years old so it’s free in the public domain
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>>41774702
This and Illuminatus Trilogy are on my read list. I hope I manage to finish them this year.
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>>41777164
RAW is surface level for the most part. worth reading if you have some spare time, but I never got the impression he was a serious insider
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>>41772737
You should also watch Mirage Men.
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>>41777170
>I never got the impression he was a serious insider
Same. He had spook markers for sure, working at a high level at Playboy and being so close to timothy leary. and the discordian nonsense seemed like a psyop to distract and discourage serious conspiracy investigations. Regardless there's a lot of merit to what he talked about in Promethus and his championing of General Semantics. that puts him closer to the white hat category.

>>41777164
I started reading Illuminatius and it's fantastic. another good resource for long listening https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQRJ7mK4lZo
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>>41777234
the YT vid is better at 1.5 speed btw
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>>41777170
he understood the nature of inside/outside and relayed it well in fiction and other writings, but someone like that isn't ever going to be a 'serious insider'

>>41777234
>and the discordian nonsense seemed like a psyop to distract and discourage serious conspiracy investigations.
it was a (successful) experiment in god-building
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>>41777407
>it was a (successful) experiment in god-building

eris is just (a simplified) sophia in 70's sexbomb trappings
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>>41775535
>I tried reading Passport to Magonia but he opened with some comically outdated and incorrect 1970s bullshit about the Mayan civilization
... You do know that book is from the sixties, right, anon?
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>>41777171
>cia bs
no thanks
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>>41772731
I know Vallee can be infuriating to many with how cryptic and general he can be, and with the tangents he goes off onto when talking live, but I think at least in some aspects he may be bang on the money about the intelligence behind the phenomenon. Too many encounters are outright absurd and bizarre to simply explain them as little green men or whatever.

Passport to Magonia is a good read, imo.
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>>41777716
1969. I don't know why I specifically associate von Dänikens bullshit with the seventies. But I do, for whatever reason-
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>>41778951
And for the record, he almost definitely got that section on the Mayans from von Däniken.



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