Are there any accounts of Shadow People/Hatman predating the early 00's? If not, how did the concept become so widespread so quickly? If there are no accounts prior to that date, why do multiple people now claim to see them under influence or during sleep paralysis? Is it because they are a manifestation of some deep issue with the society of today, a reaction to a different way of life, or is there some even stranger explanation? Discuss pls.
I think that a great deal more of our perception is derived from our understanding of our culture and that this derivation affects our awareness down to its core. It wouldn't surprise me if ancient people used to get sleep paralysis but saw different things than we do now. History wasn't always perceived as starting somewhere and ending who knows where it used to be thought of as cyclical. The vedic tradition still sees the world as a 4,320,000 year cycle.
>>41779035I saw a very clear shadow person walk across the room after projecting images into my mind designed to distress me.It was a cruel thing to do and I told him so before he slunk away in what I think was shame.
>>41779081I also think the perception of things being influenced by cultural understanding is a phenomen that reaches very deep. We already know that your perception can be altered to a degree where it no longer agrees with the consenus reality - for example, the deliria induced by tropane alkaloids in datura, brugmansia, or nightshade is often so complete that a person does not know they ingested anything, and take their altered reality at face value, interacting with objects that exist only in their idiosyncratic reality. If ingestion of a substance can cause this dramatic of a change in perception, why wouldn't it be possible that other substances cause smaller changes when taken in? What about their cumulative effects? What if we take ideas to also be a kind of substance that changes ones internal state upon intake? I find thinking of the evolution of different cultures and worldviews (literally ways of viewing the world) as the result of innumerable tiny vectors of input from the environment, to be immensely humbling and fascinating. That being said, so is the end result. How deep does this go - how significant is the level of variation in percepted reality between individuals? If it is significant to any magnitude, does that mean that objective reality is ineffable? I feel like the question of perception lies at the core of the paranormal, all forms of religiosity and mysticism, and also the pinnacle of arts, whether they be the kind usually considered an art by society, or mundane activities which have been perfected to an unbelievable degree.
>>41779035From wikipedia>A number of religions, legends, and belief systems describe supernatural entities such as shades of the underworld, and various shadowy humanoids have long been a staple of folklore and ghost stories, such as the Islamic Jinn and the Choctaw Nalusa Falaya.>An episode of the 1985 Twilight Zone series titled "The Shadow Man" dealt with a teenage boy who had a shadow person living under his bed.[20] The episode portrayed the shadow man as fitting the "hat man" appearance commonly ascribed to shadow people and added to the mythology that shadow people can kill humans but will not harm those under whose beds they live.
>>41779208Indeed brain states that are linguistically, visually, and musically encoded can be likened to the brain states of delirium, psychedelia, and dissociation encoded within chemical compounds. I've had a decoding which revealed a state of no time no boundaries no awareness. It's plausible to me that asking the question of what grounds all metaphysics is like a floor with a fractal surface. To predict exactly where a ball would bounce when dropped on it, every hill and valley within each hill and each valley would need to be accounted for. Mapping every hill and every valley might be impossible however I don't suggest we stop zooming in. I suggest we stop trying to have a destination. I'm no physicist but I don't think the quest for a grand unified theory is going well for them. I used to be interested in the different possible theories but now I see the endeavor as a bit pointless, like Urso of Calabria's mild attempts at fixing the utterly broken Gallenic medical model. The future of the science of the mind is interesting, but the future of the mind is going to be really out to here.
I believe some sort of american myth details the existence of tall, black humanoids.
>>41779788I remember same stories in african and aboriginal folklore. Iirc the aborigines have two, one are small, sometimes the size of ants, while the other are tall and flat, they squeeze beetwen rocks to avoid people.
>>41779035fuck hatman, that motherfucker owes me money
>>41779035Bro Art Bell had multiple episodes of Coast 2 Coast about shadow people from the 80s/90s. Look them up on youtube, they're really entertaining
>Andro Man further confessed that on the Holy Rood Day (Ruidday in harvest) the Queen of Elphen and her company rode white horses (quhyt haiknayes) alongside the Devil (Christsondy) who appeared out of snow in the form of a stag. She and her companions had human shapes, "yet were as shadows", and that they were "playing and dancing whenever they pleased."
>>41780147Hmm
I saw him in like 2006 outside in broad daylight before I even knew what a hatman was, then again in like 2013 during sleep paralysis.Sometime between those two encounters I discovered that this was a real thing people see when I saw drawings in the Internet of exactly what I saw.
