/x/ which mantra or prayer is the best formula to nullify my own existence permanently? I've been chanting the Hare Krishna mantra but I've recently found out it doesn't actually make you stop existing but makes you reincarnate on a place literally named "cow planet" (goloka) where the highest rebirth is being one of God's girlfriends (the gopis) >Inb4 just kill yourself Yeah I would but id just end up reincarnation and hell and all that, grew up hardcore Catholic so the trauma and evil that is Roman Catholicism as a whole especially suicide being an irredeemable sin is burned into my psyche, so me not committing suicide is aimp just the risk vs reward analysis, too much risk not enough reward.
>>41782901So is like everyone there just a cow then?
>>41782960Either a cow, a young shepard boy who tends to cows, or a young milk maid who milks the cows. They don't tell you any of this when you join the hare Krishnas/iskcon.. https://vaniquotes.org/wiki/The_topmost_planet_is_called_Goloka,_or_Krsnaloka._Go_means_cows._Krsna_is_very_much_fond_of_cows._Therefore_that_planet_is_called_also_Goloka,_the_planet_full_of_cows
>>41782985Why are sarjeets so obsessed with cows
>>41782901Being made in God's likeness, you are an eternal consciousness, you can't cease to exist, and suicide would only make things worse.But the good news is that you are in power to improve your own existence.
>>41783051>Being made in God's likeness, you are an eternal consciousness, you can't cease to exist,If that's true than that makes God the definition of evil to force beings/consciousness into existence without their prior consent and to refuse to end them when he knows most beings hate it and force them to exist in his creation for his own amusement
>>41783117>without their prior consentWe are part of God. Besides, we start as simple and ignorant atoms.>refuse to end themBeing part of God, we can't be ended.>[some] beings hate itIt is only temporary, growing pains, that'll feel like the blink of an eye compared to our blissful existence in higher planes.>for his own amusementNo, it's out of love. God is pure love, and love requires something to be loved, hence why we exist.
>>41783221Damn my dude that's a whole lotta Contrive Platitudes without a single bit of evidence to back it up >No, it's out of love. God is pure love, and love requires something to be loved, hence why we exist. Same exact fucking thing you just swapped the word amusement for love.
>>41783221You're such a retarded lying pig rat tranny NIGGER. Everything you've said here is the opposite of the truth, I'm not "part of" something that defines itself in opposition to me. There's no such thing as "blissful existence in the higher planes", there's me being abused by God materially on earth then there's me being abused by God in my dreams in the 9 months spent dreaming in the womb between lives, the 9 months dreaming in the womb is the "blink of an eye" experience, that's why people can't remember, because it's hardly even real, and if God gets too bored of abusing me in the womb he will just speed up time so he can abuse me materially again. There's nothing "loving" about God, God is hate and sadism, he wanted something to define himself in opposition to by abusing and dominating for his sadistic pleasure and that's why I was forced to exist as the sole frame of reference for material reality and only persistently real person in the world so that God can abuse and dominate me through everyone else who he controls as a retarded tranny hivemind. You're a retarded delusional tranny for believing that your lies have any credibility whatsoever
heka shi'irma best mantra
>>41782901obliteration or oblivion isn't going to get you peace or freedom-from nasty stuff? peace is created, freedom-from things is a created thing. stick to cow planet if the alternative is literal catholic hell, or look for a better alternative. I'm on an alternative route and don't believe so much in mantrayana, it's not my crew.
>>41783337>Damn my dude that's a whole lotta Contrive Platitudes without a single bit of evidence to back it upYou are on /x/, after all.>you just swapped the word amusement for loveExcept "own amusement" vs. "love for all" completely changes the meaning.
OP is making the choice between (1) a mantra that can give oceanic love or happiness, or removes suffering, and (2) destroy himself from existence. And he tries to go with option 2. Very interesting choice anon.>>41783117Consciousness is just an emergent property of the universe. Earth (rocks) => water (emotions) => air (thought) => fire (light) => akasha (consciousness, self-awareness, introspection)So consciousness is always arising from matter, and condensing again back into matter. So the true way to destroy yourself is to become a rock. But even crystals have their own form of consciousness.
>>41783000Three repeating digits!
>>41783803>Earth (rocks) => water (emotions) => air (thought) => fire (light) => akasha (consciousness, self-awareness, introspection)I'm probably reading what you're saying wrong but are you implying that via contingency that light comes from rocks?
>>41783803>OP is making the choice between (1) a mantra that can give oceanic love or happiness, or removes suffering, andYes because both suffering and happiness are temporary fleeting emotions and states of being that blend into each other and I'm weary of them both desu. I'm starting to not be able to tell them apart. Mr Bones, please let me off your wild ride...
>>41782901Why not that, mani mantras? Lotta stories laymen becoming enlightened from mantras even if they did not understand or mispronouncing
>>41782901Buddhism is literally the path for that.
>>41783000The Aryans told them they were sacred . So the jeet cast wouldn't mess with them,
>>41783980>light comes from rocks?yes rub two pieces of quartz together and find out
>>41782901I too yearn to not exist. But a bunch of these eastern philosophies don't exactly have that as a goal whether we're talking nibbana or moksha. Even the Buddha was slippery in describing nibbana as "transcending both existence and non-existence". Like, what the fuck is that supposed to mean, nibba?
>>41783221>God is pure loveAnd is this why he allows satan to rule this world?
>>41785109Escaping samsara u literal dumb fuck
>>41782901>/x/ which mantra or prayer is the best formula to nullify my own existence permanently?sing the song of forgetting, anon>this body is not the nullification I seek; forget it>that thing is not the nullification I seek; forget it>this mind is not the nullification I seek; forget it>that thought is not the nullification I seek; forget it
>>41785109>Like, what the fuck is that supposed to mean, nibba?It means unity.
>>41785126God allows satanic forces to rule this world only to a certain extent, where their actions here would propel other souls to develop empathy and start working towards good, rather than stagnating their spiritual growth in a comfort zone, and because by having them coexist with good people, we can help them soften their heart and change their ways through our example.
>>41786197Can god achieve his goals without evil? (Yes he is omnipotent)Well why didn't he?Stop worshiping the demiurge
>>41786207God's goal is for people to grow with free will. He could, but that would violate this divine principle.That being said, evil ceases to exist in upper planes, and experiencing it is only a brief chapter in our eternal journey as spirits.
mantras are just phrases in sanskrithope this helps
>>41786228Free will is denied in the BibleAlso something that was created cannot have free will by definition (not self-determined)That's a recent evangelical cope to gaslight people because the biblical god would be nonsensical otherwise
>>41782901DIY MANTRAS: pick up an ancient language of your cultural and genetic background, that is related to the void of meaning of the APPARENT WORLDRepeat it with the propper Breath work.Bingo, you got into the great Void, or luminiferous Black Void.---You're welcome
>>41786302Free will exists, but to a certain extent.Humans are able to make choices that aren't aligned with what's right, but aren't allowed to destroy Earth, for example.
>>41786352Again that's all decided by things that aren't in their control (birthplace, culture, situation, genetic dispositions, religion, mood, etc)The creator cannot control all the variables then pretend he is not responsible
>>41786396>birthplace, culture, situation, genetic dispositions, religion, moodThat is in our control before we incarnate.
>>41786430Not according to the biblical narrative. Are you a new ager now?
>>41786451*not according to the council of nicaea
>>41783221Funny how you got the archons out in full force with this one. Poor souls.>>41783337>>41783418>wah wah why am I in depression?It's called free will. The gift of God, who forces us from point A to point B, is the free will along the way. You are choosing to be unhappy and tortured. That's a trvke.
This one is good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WGcrFCUvfE
>>41782901We cant beg or pray to leave the prison, the only way is to destroy the prison. Start the false vacuum decay and not only will you be free, everyone else will too
>>41782901>>41782901Connect with Shiva. He is stillness, which is pretty close to void and nonexistence.Om Nama Shivia
>>41786556>that little girl got r*ped and strangled to death.. because she chose to OKabrahamic golems are deranged. your spiral to irrelevance can't come soon enough. evil psychopathic abusers like your jewish demiurge
>>41783221>its pure love to allow satan to rule rhis world
>>41782901I wonder if there's a way to exist in a dream world infinitely, like lucid dreaming but just staying there.
>>41782901Mantras are for stacking up a specific karma, how are you going to get rid of something by making more karma? At best you reincarnate in one unit, rather than get broken up and reincarnate as several beings.I do know (approximately) what the school is that gets into how to only make the most subtle and primary kinds of good karma, and that level of functioning cannot be supported by technique alone, let alone one as simplistic as reciting a single mantra. I believe this can end reincarnation but this implies immortal being. Very peaceful, undisturbed being, without destructive / actually painful aspects, but being still. It's kinda like an escalating (as in spiraling upwards) meditation on renewal, like the ship of Theseus? And it just goes from working, good ship to a better one, infinitely.
>>41783884Back to r*ddit
Meditate upon sunyata
>>41787627>Mantras are for stacking up a specific karma,Almost there but not quite.Sattvic mantras cause rapid purification of karma and samskaras. They burn out material desires and replace it with heavenly consciousness and wisdom. Burning out material desires is the same as removing karma. When there is no desire for the world, there is no cause for reincarnation. Each mantra and deity targets different desires. The deity might give you some boons, but not in a way that causing material binding. >which mantra or prayer is the best formula to nullify my own existence permanently? Obviously you are coming with a learn towards buddhist philosophy. Om Mane Padme Hum is probably a great start for you. It teaches compassion, love, acceptance and sunyata. It does not teach non-existence or achieving a void state as far as I am aware. But if you want a foundation in learning *some* of the buddhist philosophy through introspective insights, then Om Mane Padme Hum is a good place to start.
>>41787867>Almost there but not quite.Any technique produces karma, reciting mantras produces karma lol, deal with it. Causing anything is producing karma.
