>>41791203
>double-slit experiment
But the effects of that change are known. One of two depending on observation. You can’t manipulate it into something else so it does not support influencing risks out with your mind. It’s simply that observation changes the state between one of two options.
>The researches of Dean Radin with random number generators
After all the years he spent doing things like this it’s proved nothing. The results are debated and so extremely minimal it shows nothing practical about influencing reality with your mind.
We don’t have any evidence. Neville Goddard claims you can sod anything but his miracles were mundane. He eventually got to Barbados and he got out the draft, eventually. So did he do anything?
There’s nothing to suggest that any of this works.

I have gotten results with repeated chanting of simple sentences. Sometimes the results took a while before they'd appear, but I had definite results.
I have also gotten results from using the "List method" as detailed by Joseph Alai in this youtube video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftwp9QyoVAA

Pigeons are rare in my area, while using the list method I wrote something like "a pigeon was seen" and then some time after I saw two random pigeons in a parking lot. I also wrote "a Tornado was seen" which isn't too common where I live. But some time after I saw a news article that there was a tornado in my area and there was even a photo of it.

I dont get manifesting. The idea that you can use psychic powers like telekenesis is one thing or materialize a sword out of thin air. But what people call manifesting is literally just "i hope i get that and if i belive hard enough i will get it" makes no sense somebody explain this to me.

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The placebo effect is real, and accepted by science. It seems to only have effect on your own body though, not on reality. Some anons claim to have manifested physical change like hair color or height, by visualizing it as already true and believing. Personally I never succeeded (yet). There was even an anon here who claimed he manifested a skull deformity to disappear, see the screenshot.

>>41791250
Thanks I'm gonna check that video tonight.
>repeated chanting
Interesting. Is that what they call "robot affirming"?

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>>41791683
Well, I do it with feeling and sometimes imagine what I'm chanting about. Chanting is kinda like singing, I suppose singing works too. There have been rappers that had lines about dying in a certain way in their music and then they ended up dying in that specific way. Some have sang about having bling and riches and women and then they got those things.

>>41791846
This is pretty powerful stuff
Have you noticed how most music has negative or neutral lyrics? Or its alluding to some things (that are often stupid things)
I've only found a few examples of actually positive lyrics, like "I feel good"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-rn7i_ETYc

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>>41791203
Step 1) are you familiar with tophet?

How to manifest the love of my life coming back to me? Just SATS & LOA?

>>41791434
You don't hope or want, you straight up get it

>>41791434
Reality is fake and you have to call it's bluff. Every wizard knows this.

>>41791238
>There’s nothing to suggest that any of this works.
not for you

>>41792093
>tophet
If only we only had to burn some random asshole as a sacrifice to Moloch to get what we want, it would be awesome, we'd get what we want and we'd get rid of assholes at same time.

>>41791434
There are different points of view to explain manifesting, and a lot of people would explain this better than me, but basically the main idea is that if you expect something to happen then it has more chances to happen. We all had this feeling in our life. And Dean Radin's researches prove that it's true, even if the effect is very small. But by walking step by step one can go a very long way eventually.
Now imagine yourself walking on a path, and in front of you there are constantly junctions, always many different paths you could take next. But you are supposed to walk in a straight line, not choose, and take the path that is right in front of you (that is to say the most probable event), without even being sure that the other paths really exist. Manifesting is influencing your trajectory in order to choose the paths that lead to your end goal, to choose what comes next, by shifting your focus, beliefs and feelings to align with what you want to attract into your life, in order to make it more probable to happen.
At the very least, even if nothing magic happens, it at least makes you more open to opportunities that come your way, it gives you hope and help fight depression.

>>41793321
Basically you're always manifesting and divining an outcome. If you have negative thoughts you're divining the wrong way like a retard. At least point it in the right direction.

>>41792186
Just assume she is back. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter what "method" you use. You could use the most retarded method and so long as you believe that it's sufficient it will get the job done.

>>41792343
No.
For anyone. That’s why it’s not accepted generally. Best we get here is shitty anecdotes with nothing to back them up.

>>41795222
That's because you're not a wizard, you fucking suck you fucking hylic. I have done a lot more than simple manifesting.

>>41795252
Please share some example.

>>41795222
Months ago I made a forest come back. I still can't believe it worked, but it did. The forest had been bought, closed, and half was cut down. It made me literally sick when I saw it, because it had been an important place for me since a toddler. I don't know what made it work because I tried several things several times and at same time, I used the gateway tapes to go out of my body then I visualized it being back, also being told that the cutting was over, I asked for help and hallucinated some sort of extraterrestrial gods helping me, I did SATS, I pretended to myself until it felt true. And one day not only I was told the cutting was over, but when I checked most of the trees were back somehow, there were only a couple tiny clearings, all the rest was back, no matter how it made no sense at all. It was very hard to believe. Even weirder, for I could not believe I went to check again and more trees were gone... Then I believed again and they were back again. Since then I tried to manifest something else using the same methods but so far it doesn't work. So unfortunately I can't tell "here it is, THE method", for I really have no idea what worked, for I did so many different things at same time. I think the most powerful one was to pretend until it felt true, and believe that it would happen, but again, but I can't be sure for I fail to do it again.
There were other things but these were not proofs to me, they could be coincidences. But the forest, it can't be a coincidence, hundreds of trees don't grow back in a matter of days or weeks.
>with nothing to back them up.
I should have taken pictures to prove the change. I wonder if the pictures would have been changed too.

I manifested that my imagination would work better towards providing me the sexual and societal stimulation I desire, for I've designed my nervous system to react negatively when something is interfering with me making my dreams a reality and I created some cellular material out there to help overcome the problem.

I make small worlds of tulpas that I interact with, and the tulpas and the surrounding themselves, as well as my own PC I assume, react in ways that displease me if there's any occult energies interfering, I suggest you do it this way yourself. Have an alarm that always warns you when it's time to stop dilly-dallying and time to start focusing. Have the stimuli from such events come to you in an easily understandable way.

If you will not grow brain cells in yourself to help yourself towards this affect, then please pray that others will receive these blessings instead. I'm ready to go with this magical gift-giving.

Say you want to manifest the moon being on the street. The moon actually does go on the street on some level of reality but it needs to negotiate making sense with current reality. So instead of the moon maybe you get something like a big accident where the moon was supposed to be.

>>41795658
That's advice from manifestors hoping to keep manifesting looking legitimate by limiting the number of reported failures, but manifesting always takes place side-by-side with communication. At all times you communicate to all of Creation with your everything, if that can't interfere why would communicating about it the ordinary way?

Your kinda right though, everything we do affects manifesting, it's possible to do something "too soon" and mess up a manifestation...but it's not possible to mess up fate. If your manifesting didn't go as planned that's because it wasn't supposed to.

Plant brain cells with me. Create them and destroy them. Along with the other reasons I'll be doing that today I must overcome my nicotine and weed addictions for the day and focus on gooning addiction, ah I have just enough to get to imbibing the herbs but it's not fated, not right. Just a little, just gonna do a little, and for every bit of what I want that I don't get my mind gets flooded with porn images as I designed via brain cells and other things.

Thank you for your help, many changes were made to neural material to help me with my addictions and to help others. Interestingly there were those trying to stop us, and they were summoning of the others and the egregores they worship and etc. to stop us, and that means we can recruit them further for help. They'd be unlikely to help consciously willingly for that life time of theirs, so they can do it unconsciously.

I want people to like those of us on this right side of this more, and increases to our IQ particularly when it comes to the occult. Tack on your own desires, align some things you want to coincide with these.

Some posts here feel weird, I'm tempted to say offtopic but I'm not even sure because I don't understand what they are about. I suppose they are AI generated spam, but why?
(And it's not OP bumping his thread, I am OP.)

>>41793321
>but basically the main idea is that if you expect something to happen then it has more chances to happen.
Something is strange about me and my life. Anytime I expect something to happen, either by pattern, recognition, an educated guess or otherwise something entirely different happens. It's always minor and mostly just inconvenience but the law of attraction works in opposition to me.

>>41793321
>but basically the main idea is that if you expect something to happen then it has more chances to happen.
You don't expect it to happen, you see that it already happened.

>>41796162
Maybe you like to make yourself suffer, you keep sabotaging yourself unconsciously. It's very common unfortunately, you once were very sad and since then you keep making it happen again. And it's hard to decide to not be sad anymore, to convince your subconscious to stop causing this.

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Manifestation is real and it works.
Involuntary prediction is also real.

Manifestation and involuntary prediction are two entirely different things.

Manifestation:
>You really desire something
>You believe that you deserve whatever it is
>You will it into existence by desiring it so much that you eventually find what it is that you’re looking for

Involuntary prediction:
>A thought randomly comes to you
>The thought forces it’s way into your mind
>The thought later comes true

Manifestation is inherently by definition when you take charge of your circumstances and craft the outcome that you want. Fortune telling is an involuntary act that can not be done on command, and rarely ever makes sense. But both work.

>>41791203
I have had multiple instances of both manifestation and involuntary prediction,

Examples of manifestations:
>Cars that I have desired I end up getting, down to the exact model and colour
>Girls that I have desired I end up dating
>Objects that I have desired I end up getting
Only after wanting it for a really long time and trying very hard does this usually work. You have to be very persistent.

Examples of involuntary prediction:
>I knew Kamala would lose before she lost
>I knew the shooting and gun buyback in Australia would happen before it happened
>I saw my neighbour committing suicide before she committed suicide
>I saw a building fire happening before it happened
>I frequently hear the words people are about to say before they say them when they are talking to me
>I predicted my house getting broken into
In none of these situations did I will it or cause it to happen. The thoughts came to me and then came true after

>>41791203
Is it possible to LOA yourself back in time?? Like waking up at an earlier point in your consciousness?

Do I REALLY have to detach or can I violently obsesses over results?

>>41796405
Yes, it is
And it has already happened

>>41796410
The results have already came to fruition

>>41796410
The more you feel it and the stronger it is the better.

>>41796414
Truthfully, I believe it already has happened once or twice. I know that I need to assume that it’s already happened in order for it to happen. However, if there is any way to further influence this process, I would love to know. Thank you.

>>41796463
You are in Barbados

>>41795617
If you had taken a picture or something sure, maybe that would be something to back it up, as it is this is as believable as any other story which is not at all really. Could be many explanations and the fact it’s unrepeatable by you also suggests it wasn’t something you did. Always seems to be one-offs with any manifestation stories that aren’t total lies.
I’m not saying you are making a total lie, you seem to be posting in good faith so maybe something did happen. But there’s nothing to back it up and that’s the issue.
>>41795252
You have not done anything, you aren’t a wizard and you just shitpost insults. Boring.
>>41796405
No
>>41796414
Lmao

>>41796638
Don't mind this anon, he likes to act as the voice of opposition in LOA threads.

>>41796664
Clearly. Of course nothing would be accomplished with such a pessimistic attitude

>>41796638
That addiction you have feels really strong. Maybe you should tend to that instead.

>>41796664
>ignore anything that makes you uncomfortable and try to force your own viewpoint even when it might be wrong
Glowing attempt to stop discussion.
>>41796676
A lot can be accomplished by being positive but there’s no reason to pretend that believing extremely positively that you will be able to travel through time by just wishful thinking isn’t being positive. It’s being crazy.

>>41796698
Don’t have any addiction. You sound like the tarot card poster in the loa threads.

>>41796676
Yup, he probably got frustrated with failing to assume, so he obsessively feels the need to put LOA down to feel better about himself.
>>41796704
On the other hand, probably most of the anons who see these threads are news and have internal conflictive opinions. So he appears to give them voice.
It's natural it would happen.

>>41796715
I read him. He is a drug addict and he is taking it out on us, that's why he is so grumpy. Don't worry about it.

>>41796737
Right, if any anon wants to check if LOA is real all they have to do is try it for themselves. You lose nothing.

>>41796704
It’s not literally traveling through time. After reading an overwhelming number of experiences regarding people having deja vu/looping certain parts of their life, my understanding is that it is very well possible and likely inevitable for events to happen non-linearly.

My entire point is that “just wishful thinking” isn’t enough, but it’s a big part of the equation; there has to be some sort of trigger, whether it’s death or something along those lines. We are merely conscious observers, which means consciousness is all we know. My goal is to find a way to force a reset/rewind by ANY means. Believing that I’ll travel backwards is no crazier than believing in reincarnation or any sort of traditional afterlife. Your perspective and viewpoints would fit much better on plebbit. Head over to r/atheism or r/existentialism, everybody over there is a realist sour-puss like yourself. We don’t need your negativity on this board.

>>41796757
That’s fine too. They’ll find it does not work.
>>41796715
Low grade thinking. Most, if not all, LoA techniques,, books, teachers etc reject collective thinking as a factor by the way. You alone are the operative power. But I guess you haven’t looked into this scam very far.
>>41796737
>I need to find some way to fight truth!
>h-hes a drug addict!
Lmao take your meds.
>>41796806
Sounds like you need to look outside LoA. If you are just looking for methods to try this one is low grade. It amounts to belief is everything. It isn’t and the fact you are even trying to use any means suggests you are gambling on anything anyway.

>>41796863
>Sounds like you need to look outside LoA. If you are just looking for methods to try this one is low grade. It amounts to belief is everything. It isn’t and the fact you are even trying to use any means suggests you are gambling on anything anyway.
Let's hear your suggestion.

>>41796881
You’ve had other anons suggest stuff to you already in all the other threads and generals you’ve posted in.
You’ve had the astral projection to the past method in the LoA threads, I saw some anon put that there.
You’ve obviously looked into the reality shifting with all its Reddit tier hogwarts stuff.
You might as well go all in on some more advanced stuff, try looking into Dunne’s serialism (An Experiment With Time) or Ouspensky or Gjurdieff’s recurrence.
But this is a manifestation thread and if you really want to know whether LoA or manifestation is worthwhile then don’t look at what anons are saying to back it up, they are anonymous. You can’t trust them. The only people you can do any verification on are the teachers or gurus and what they really did. None of the current crop of coaches do anything except make money through teaching it. Neville Goddard? He talks the talk but he didn’t do anything obviously reality warping to the extent you want. Barbados? Sure he got there eventually one time with a ticket from his brother. He wasn’t immortal and he didn’t change his physical form or any of the other stuff anons want.

>>41796757
Since he is denying like a rat I will expose more. In his mind he really wants someone to help him badly, he is in a desperate situation. That must be why he is in a LoA thread but it's probably not working for him since he is still an addict.

>>41796928
We are actually two different anons. Ironically enough, I have looked into serialism. The reason I trust anonymous answers is because we convict people for crimes on less testimonial than what some anons provide and insist upon. There are 100% LARPers and straight up schizos out there, but I’ve personally experienced deja vu & guidance from a “higher self” several times and I am simply looking for more corroboration. The legendary timeloop experience generals are the closest I’ve seen to a dedicated spot for discussion and those literally just started, and aren’t very active (I’m assuming because becoming aware of the loop is rare in of itself). I’m merely viewing LoA as a means to an end; if I could presently manifest the same conditions I had in the past, that would also be a viable solution. However, I would prefer to redo it all, and my research thus far has led me to the conclusion that it is more than possible.

How about revision? If I can rewrite the past and wake up in a “shifted” reality in which those events did/did not happen, how can I achieve that with LoA?

>>41795633
Teach me your ways, master. How did you do that?

>>41797209
Over the course of decades since I started at age 5 destroying tiny parts of my nervous system and creating I've made sexual and social imaginings undertaken by me more fulfilling and, for lack of a better word, realistic...for even if they're unrealistic, even if I don't want them realistic, that brings them closer to being something that can be accomplished if desired. I damaged parts of my nervous system and created parts so that I can more easily mistake my sexual and social imaginings with real sexual and social couplings and the stimulation that arises there, that fulfillment of that need is better sated.

At age 5 I heard the voices of Creation while I was meditating and many had concerns, including some of my family and friends in this life time. Some of them were made the basis for tulpas with nothing more then the use of one of their memories, but because I could see the future and knew the conversation the tulpa must have with me one day it was very easy to create neural material so that would happen, and the way the neural material was created it would learn of the past, present and future and inform that individual it is inside and others on some subject matters about these and it would help that person achieve their fate, based on the fact it already had, and for other reasons. I turn enemies into parts of my tulpas sometimes that I layer over friendlies being my tulpas and that way there's more stability, less repair needs done. I have tulpas that serve as vessels for dead spirits, for real beings, and will stand in for said beings until they arrive (if they arrive).

We create brain cells and we destroy them, and we do other things like spontaneously destroy and create atoms in circuits as I did this morning, to manipulate how thought is performed in Creation. I want you and others to train at it more, to attempt it, there will be successes mixed in with the failures. Go after politicians.

>>41795617
I think that's why the bible says to believe and you shall see, and it always comes back to the idea of faith

>he's fucking mad
>trying to hid it under clam.
heh.

>bro your not psychic.
>bro you just read the room
yep he's mad. and coping
he knows i can think faster than him and pwn him before it happens.

hehehe.
I'm enjoying this far too much.

>>41797236
Wow, that's insane. Time to break and remake my inner world. Thanks a lot for this.

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>>41796405
and another one

>>41796708
What? If by tarot card poster you mean the one that draws tarot cards as a way to keep track of the progress of the journey, then that would be me. I have no idea why you would associate me with calling you adicted, but you have your anons mixed up.

I came across this article earlier while reading paranormal stuff. It describes several "laws" of manifesting and why, according to the author, they work. I found it interesting (even if personally I disagree with some parts), and easy to read (compared to big boring books).
https://anomalien.com/how-to-attract-success-using-universal-laws-and-quantum-physics/

>>41796295
Amazing if true. Did you just always have this gift or did you get it after doing/learning something?

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I don't have much experience manifesting (I've only done the ladder experiment and nothing else because I was in denial of the results for a while), but I want to manifest a magic artifact that lets me live inside a pocket dimension of my own choosing. I don't want to hurt anyone or have any power over the real world, I just want to be left alone forever. what technique is best for getting a powerful magic item like that?

>>41795617
>I think the most powerful one was to pretend until it felt true
realistically, how often do people unironically do this? "fake it till you make it" is often thrown around but i don't know of any people who fake it without ever not making it, it seems like those two are one and the same, aka "fake it = make it"

>>41797635
Thank you. When it comes to tulpas I tend to make them out of allies at their base and enemies for most of the rest, with some cells in myself to anchor it all, but a lot of that processing goes on unconsciously; the tulpas are supposed to act independent. I based the creation of the material that will bring them into being on what I foresaw of activities and conversations, but those were just fleeting moments in time that informed those creations. The creations themselves help to ensure future occult works are done correctly because of the manner in which they influence things, they make beings that hold the creations inside themselves and others that those people radiate their energies to better at seeing the future because their biological design is for the purpose of aligning a being's behavior to a vision seen of the future, a vision that is consulted directly via traveling backwards in time.

Even though I describe such grand things, it has taken a lot of time, I have spent large periods of decades doing this, significant planning and dedication. I can mostly not so easily teach it to others but it still take significant time, and that's even if we rely heavily on my methods that invoke the improvements via brain damage and growth. I guess this is what it means to say that faith is required, to me this all seems so obvious that I feel that no faith is required of me but for you to spend significant time on this I guess you would need to summon faith from Creation to help you to believe this enough to devote effort to it.

We could grow cells in you that give you more faith in this process. I often like to solve the problems I encounter using loops of occult activity, self-reinforcing patterns and mechanisms.

If you can shift reality with your mind then there'd be no point to life. The inner and outer would just be the same and any sense of inner growth would be impossible. Basically life would be no more significant than a lucid dream. Therefore embrace difficulty and the fact that you don't get everything you want. Can you imagine hanging out with someone that's never been told no before? I wouldn't wanna hang out with them that's for sure

>>41798666
trips of mercy

>>41798666
There's no rule stating that a fake can't surpass the original

>>41798666
That's the point I'm coming to. Because my mind is designed by me to mistake sounds for other sounds, sights for other sights, and to entertain me, my conscious experience of outside stimuli comes to match my internal stimuli more and more. This is intentional and for many reasons, including as a form of torture or toughening, but for many reasons including that my brain is partially designed to not be able to conceive of my will being anything but moral, I cannot abide even my passing fantasies not coming true. I use tricks to subvert this fact, I'm guided by this principle to pursue exactly 100% as much of what I want as I can but where I can't I have designed changes in my nervous system that change my behavior so I don't sabotage my success.

I don't often bring this up but I've a little confused by a conundrum...anything I am aware of psychically I must have a hand in manipulating, but anything manipulated via my occult methods I must have some conscious input into if I am aware of them at all, even if I didn't do them, and also there's supposedly nothing out there I don't at least know unconsciously. I've theorized there are ways I have of not knowing things like what other people are up to, and thus letting them get up to them without me, but my methods SHOULD work for the rest of you even without me and should work without me sensing them, yet I cannot conceive of there being anything I cannot sense...sense of self and just exactly what is possible gets a bit tangled up, and not surprisingly with so many possibilities.

Grow brain cells out there. Destroy some. Do favors for politicians by destroy at their nervous systems to give them better occult powers, call it a gift. Politicians in particular we have a desire to leash with these occult powers, why shouldn't ever power bestowed by these methods be a potential leash?

>>41791203
hi sempai not an hater just a student but....
have you ever done it? i mean for real? do you have a clear exemple of YOU influencing reality
dont give me some deja vu or shit like this, i want some mind blowing story

>>41799350
No one has ever done it.

>>41797141
You cannot affect the past using Neville’s revision. He’s quite clear on that. This misunderstanding is often repeated and it’s made out to be able to change past events. It does not.

Direct Neville quotes from the pruning shears of revision
> Dwelling on past irritations or hurts perpetuates them and creates a vicious circle that serves to confirm these negative emotions.

>The circle can be broken by starting now to revise anything that you no longer wish to sustain in your world. By revising the past, you rid yourself of any effect it may have on your future.

> Now this is how we do it. At the end of my day, I review the day; I don't judge it, I simply review it. I look over the entire day, all the episodes, all the events, all the conversations, all the meetings, and then as I see it clearly in my mind's eye, I rewrite it. I rewrite it and make it conform to the ideal day I wish I had experienced. I take scene after scene and rewrite it, revise it, and having revised my day, then in my imagination I relive that day, the revised day, and I do it over and over in my imagination until this seeming imagined state begins to take on to me the tones of reality. It seems that it's real, that I actually did experience it and I have found from experience that these revised days, if really lived, will change my tomorrows. When I meet people tomorrow that today disappointed me, they will not tomorrow, for in me I have changed the very nature of that being, and having changed him, he bears witness tomorrow of the change that took place within me. It is my duty to take this garden and really make it a garden by daily using the pruning shears of revision.

The event does not change. Neville still remembers it and it still happened, you view it differently so it makes your tomorrow better, you stop dwelling on them once this is done.

>>41799288
This is a fake version of the /loa/ general though.
Has it surpassed it? Why are there two?

>>41791434
Me neither. Some things in life if you work hard enough you get it, but sometimes you don't. Some other things you get sometimes without even trying too hard. It's funny to me when I think of how these "manifesters" rationalize their successes or failures. To me it's just life.

>>41799528
Okay, looks like I’m brute-forcing my way to the past

>>41791858
This is something I feel very strongly about. In the movie "Immortal Beloved", Beethoven asks his secreatary what it is that makes music so special to us. He answers "It exalts the spirit" to which Beethoven replies "Rubbish!" and goes on to explain that music allows the composer to convey emotion directly to the listener. This is why i try to only listen to music that conveys positive emotions although there are some blues I really like. Be careful what you download to your psyche.

>>41791203
someone in a previous thread about 2-3 months ago said rooms have conciousnessess and you can change the feeling of rooms somehow.

>>41791203
I have had some success with the ole I will not climb a ladder routine and have noticed that some things which are desirable but unlikely do manifest for me.

However people should really stop citing the double slit experiment. It doesn't function the way people believe it does and doesn't really pass muster in realtion to LoA purposes. The observation changes the outcome not because just looking at it makes it change between a wave and a beam but because an environmental shift necessarily has to take place to observe, this being the medium used to make the observation. I can't explain it fully bevause ir has been some time since I looked into it properly instead of just reading the basic rundown, but trust me it no longer suits as you understand more.

>>41793092
Can we burn someone to ensure someone else dies if that's what I want? I will happily volunteer as tribute if this guy also goes. I will be doing humanity a favor.

> To begin with, do we have some evidence that our mind can indeed influence reality, even just a little?

Yes : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Consciousness_Project
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tychoscope (not in english but you can translate with google and search for the experiment of René Peoc’h )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganzfeld_experiment

But if you believe in the Rene Peoc'h experiment that includes that all forms of life can and shape reality. And I think they can be "harvest" like human to influence the world if you bring them the right idea

>>41799736
Not LOA, but in the category of influencing the world, might be interesting.

>>41791203
>Do you have a theory or an interesting experience to share?

In psychology, wanting or craving something make you nervous or anxious, and you can't properly focus on making things happen.
We have mirror neurons that can pick up whatever other people are feeling ( also we can subconsciously feel whatever the other person is feeling, usually through micro-expressions, but this is best developed in people that has more contact with other people and autistic people lack that), so most of us can be attracted or rejected without you even saying a single word.
When you "give up" or stop wanting because you already gaslighting yourself to the point of already have it, will make you less prone to errors and you can project that confidence to others, making your more likely to succeed

>>41799868
I don’t believe in the Rene peoc’h experiment
I do believe you think that you can harvest loosh, it’s not even manifestation related but I believe you think you can do that. You are the next top Glowie.

>>41797782
>>41797789
Thank you legend. Beginning my journey today.

>>41800296
One of them says Neville is not used the other says Neville is useful. You’ll be going in two different directions at once assuming either work at all.

>law of book selling and wishful thinking.
Nah, get a good book on chaos magick
Train, study (pay attention so we neednt explain), and test the waters, see me after 15 years of major drawbacks until it finally flies and you're set

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Manifestation is happening 24/7 it's not an action

What you believe consistently becomes subconscious pattern. Subconscious patterns arrange circumstances you encounter. The accuracy is based on consistency of the belief and the associated emotions. All technique is only framework. A method of cultivating faith
>I am strong lvl1
Spoken once In a heated moment. It means nothing.
>I am strong lvl2
You've had many lvl1 moments. You suspect your are stronger or getting stronger. This is now an idea I'm your mind.
>I am strong lvl3
You've carried the idea consistently. Like watering a flower. For whatever reason. And over time despite not working out you have loved a life that has produced strength. You have been put in situations that work out or starve the body. You are strong.

>Why do God complexes not rule the world?
They do but more accurately the majority of God complexes or psychopaths only control outside circumstances and others perceptions. Not their own. Speaking of which.
> Focus locus
The self defence of the soul is ensuring that nothing you think once or twice comes true. Only that which you hold onto and cultivate belief in. Good or bad.
>Everything is already within you.
The kingdom of heaven is within. Because you have God's mind. The imagination is a gift. By assigning the highest value to oneself and understanding reality builds itself like a dream. You can have whatever you want

Just remove time constraints. Because you have to build a baseline first. Cultivate faith and peace. Then when

>>41800421
You will be on so many meds in 15 years time assuming you survive.

>>41800423
Garbage post.

>>41799699
This is the reason I can listen almost anything, except rap or rap-like music.
These genres are full of resentment and hatred. Not a mystery everybody that listen to it become exactly that.

Sad music is ok because the world is fundamentally suffering. But hate and envy are stupid feelings to cultivate.

>>41800444
I get. I understand. So we want to cultivate the weakest emotions right? The powerful ones are too unpredictable.

>>41800444
Smart people listen to more metal music. Smart people engage in activities that increase their intelligence further, even doing this unconsciously, and the complex orchestration of metal and other complex musical traits of angry music make the brain work harder, increasing intelligence over time, and the transient state of anger helps the brain to think more logically and intelligently sometimes.

I have installed anger in myself that I don't show outwardly but that spurs on my mental abilities through the installation and alteration of brain cells. What if those damnable emotions that rule our logical thought processeses were rules by us and organized to benefit our logical thinking, not the other way around?

I mean, I believe in it enough I do it to myself. And better still, I revel in the hedonistic side of it, the sensations, the feelings, the experiences. By altering my understanding of language so that everything I need to know about the occult can be receive in the form of satisfying feelings that I'm craving unconsciously, subconsciously and consciously I train my mind to expect my manifestations to become true as more and more of a given.

Another conundrum I have encountered is that the sensation that something is true or could be true can be so convincing via ESP that it can be indistinguishable from the real thing. This was sort of a goal of what we were developing, we want mind-control to be an option so the supplanting of desires with others is an important opportunity and people should be free to believe whatever they want, or at least mostly so, and so that would entail being able to make these sorts of mistakes...but on the other hand, many beings want certain emotions and sensations to be infallible sources of knowledge that educate on things in a reliable, unchanging way. These two possibilities run contrary to each other. Should the servant feel just as special as the Master? They probably would work harder, be happier, and to some Masters it doesn't matter if the servant deludes themselves...to others, the servant MUST know they're inferior, they're not allowed to convince themselves otherwise.

Which way is better?

>>41800442
That's the best post ITT you're talking about nigga.

>>41800438
Bold talk for a faggot

>>41800438
You've tried:
Death magick.
Misdiagnosis.
Gangrenation.
Poisoning of several kinds.
Etc etc.
All of it has hit, in fact I piss an ocean every 15 min for all the poisoning.
Yet I live.
And you still claim I'm not a Xiān, if I'm not inmortal, I'm not sure what I might be, son of a dogfucking whore

>>41800438
And last: you lost the money precisely for daring to even stare in my general direction.

>>41796463
dr. joe d. on youtube has the way.

>>41800461
There's nothing strong on being hateful and jealous.
These are the weak emotions actually, because hateful and jealous people can be easily manipulated while the patient and content ones cannot.

>>41800497
Metal music has edgylord cringe hate. It's not like nigger music that literally calls you to kill cops, whores and traitors.

>>41800820
>>41800831
>>41800831
Damn bro ease up on the meds. I take it back you have taken too many and that gangrene still smells bad. Also one reply is enough.

I've spent a few days installing a new form of love in myself, love being an emotion that has side effects such as making the lover blind to the flaws of the loved. This form I've installed in myself works in a very alien way compared to the human norm, and has me quite confused and dizzy feeling...that'll right itself, but in the meantime the installation of cells that help my mind and others under similar circumstances to still be able to focus despite any dizziness or confusion is something I'm seeking. If any of you would make changes to thinking material to achieve this I'd be grateful and pay you back asap. We won't meet irl in this life time, but I can repay you via what I work on in the occult.

>>41798140
I think the best for you would be to reality shift to the world you are describing, and just deciding to stay there. Reality shifting is a vast thing with many different methods that work more or less according to the person, and I don't know enough to give advice. Any expert here?

>>41801396
Are you gods yet?

>>41801850
Lmao.

>>41800423
hey anon, this is a great post. thank you. do you have more info?

>>41799508
>No one has ever done it.
Either I did or I am crazy: >>41795617 Believe it or not.

Anyway the reason why I am here is not to have anons believe in my story, I am here because I fail to do it again so I want to learn how to use again this amazing "magic" that I got to somehow use once.

>>41799528
>You cannot affect the past using Neville’s revision.
I'd say yes and no. Maybe you can't change your timeline but you can slide to a reality (or parallel universe for those who prefer) that is basically the same except that the event you want to revise was different there, and make this reality/universe your new home. In the end, from your point of view, it's exactly the same as changing the past. My experience with the forest months ago made me believe that it is possible. Maybe I didn't make the forest come back and I rather somehow slid to a different reality where a lot less trees had been cut down for some reason. From my point of view it's the same.

>>41802202
beginner's luck is a fallacy used to compartmentalize the spirit's power into the monkey's survival brain logistic network.

have faith in yourself. rewatch the dagobah scenes in empire.

>>41799570
(OP here) This is a general thread of all methods for manifesting or influencing reality, not just the law of assumption. On /loa/ they get mad if you point out any other thing such as oneirosophy or transsurfing or reality shifting or sorcery. Here, everybody is welcome. The reason for this is that I think all these share a common core, they all refer to the same thing but have different explanation of it, so we should all share together instead of acting like cults.
Also I just didn't notice there was a loa thread, it seemed to me that there wasn't one for many weeks.

>>41802100
Thank you. This man gets it. For your words and thought I placed cells in some people named Not You, and gave them the same form of love I've recently given myself, one cell worth for each of them, and I did it in such a way it'll help me sooner understand what this one does to me.

In the simplest terms this was a form of love similar to others in that it encourage blindness of the faults of the love object, but it's supposed to be more effective and complimentary as well to the original love, and it's a sluttier version, and this one is biologically compatible even to people who don't have much of the original love, and there are other interesting qualities about it. Seeing as how so few cells of this are installed so rarely it won't spread so fast, but in loosh it connects to and informs the thinking of many cells, just not so many as to be ridiculous. We start with increasing the number of options of thought patterns and emotions that are available at the start of thoughts, increased variety that leads back into patterns already available in thinking beings. It's one of my favorite methods of improving people.

A lot of these new thought patterns and emotions are modular in that they can be combined in a great variety of combinations and still be useful, whether consciously, subconsciously or unconsciously.

It's really all too much for my consciousness, I have it participate and have cheaty ways I've damaged my nervous system so anything I'm aware of counts as me knowing everything about it consciously, cheaty manipulations of how my nervous system interprets input and output, affecting my manifestation to maximize it beyond normal mortal bounds.

I need improvements in myself, cells worth and change, at least 4 cells and a little bit besides. I can do it or maybe I can have my dog do it but I'd like someone here to. 4 suggestions to me I like enough that I place 4 cells in me, and a little bit of mutation to me besides that too.

>>41801850
thanks for the response. I've heard that shifting would be better than manifesting for my situation from someone else too so ig I'll go with that.

The perfect answer is that proper manifesting of super powers of any kind involves omnidirectional violence and love demonstrated as creation of cellular matter and similar constructs in beings where cellular matter is unwarranted. What could be more suitable to occult usage by denizens of 4chan than them getting their claws and sexual fluids everywhere is suitable metaphorical speaking (and it's barely a metaphor) in the realm of the spirit, that great contributions to God Almighty's holy plan can be achieved via this road.

>>41800444
>>41800497
Not listening to rap doesn't make you smarter or better than other people, thinking that it does is a sign of internalized racism. It's fine to not like it, but just say you don't like rap.

>>41799847
>some things which are desirable but unlikely do manifest for me
Just imagining them like in the ladder exercise?

>the double slit experiment doesn't function the way people believe it does
Disappointing, manifesting theories are often based on this. :(
I prefer the experience that seemed to prove that two observers can experience two different realities. I think it was this one: https://anomalien.com/quantum-physicists-suggest-objective-reality-may-not-exist/

>>41796150
I really think this board has some mentally ill people that post things that make zero sense.

>>41802454
No, they speak sometimes to others they know are there about key concepts you're not attuned to understand, so it comes off as lunacy when everything is lost in translation.
Naturally, there are people who arent gonna get it.

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>>41802023
Yes.

Ignore the desire to create some imaginary framework. For now. The important part is learning to relax.

Feel resistance, find relief.

The divine is structured in such a way that you are indeed being taught. If any of these things are true. Then it is baked into the universe. Into your body to be this way. This is the instinct seemingly missing from the experience of the human animal. The guidance given to the other creatures IS being given to us.

Therefore fear is an illusion. It is the absence of knowing. Because knowing can only produce peace.
Cultivate through meditation a sense of peace before trying to sweat really hard holding an idea in your head.

Look at your mental diet. The thoughts in your head. How many automatic thoughts are negative. How many times do you reinforce negative narratives in your own mind? All of them drag your attention to something NOT what you want
Regardless of why. This is the thermodynamics of the soul. Energy and attention.

Cultivate peace. Meditate. This is the baseline. It is not you doing the work. It is what is within you. By cultivating peace you are AT PEACE. By working through the mental pressure that comes if you try to find peace you purify the mind and body. Nothing that brings negative emotion should ever be held onto. Only acknowledged and turned away from.

The kingdom of heaven is within. Seek first the kingdom and all these things will be added unto you. Does the Lord not care for the birds in this way? Why not you?

The truth at the highest understanding of Christianity is that humanity was given domain of the garden and all within it
That we are called to seek within for the light.
And that out light must shine

Let there be light.

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>>41802539
Once there is peace. You have the ground level. From here you hold up your desires. And you purify them with forgiveness. The forgiveness given freely like light from the sun within you. When what you think is true is taken away. There is only you. Your desire. And the kingdom within. No shame or guilt.

Once this practice is habit. You only need lower the amount of uneeded thoughts about your life. Like a Lazer bring your thoughts to what you want and peace. That is all. No details. No plans. That is handled from within.

>Of myself I can do nothing. It is what's within that does all these things.

There is more to learn. Like science you can delve deeper. But know this. Meditation, peace, balance. Then focus on the desire not like a pressure but as an accepted reality. It takes time. Allow the world to build what you ask for without time constraints and it will cycle through manifestations more and more accurately until you are suddenly there.

Then focus on something else. Walk the mountain of light.

>>41802578
But once again. No frameworks are needed. Your life will get better simply by not thinking like shit 24/7. Specific desires can come after you know thyself.

>>41800296
You're welcome. Please report any progress. And don't let anyone discourage you. If I find other such interesting success stories I'll share here.

>>41800423
There are ways of inhibiting how much subconscious pattern influences reality, one of the important reasons reality doesn't fall apart. Would you like to become a more important part of making sure that works right? You seem to understand this subject matter well and think about it with regularity, we could create cells out there that would make you and a few others that think like you a nexus for remotely manipulating which subconscious and unconscious ideas influence reality. There are beings that do this already but we need more and will need more from time to time for a very long time. It pays spiritually. Even though the cells need not be grown in you unless you want, they'll change how you think, just a little, to your benefit, as a side effect of processing something in the back of your mind, the process of which will teach you occult knowledge stretching every direction in time at once. Even if we don't grow things in you there can still be slight, very slight biological change that results, when a lot is learned, and the body doesn't care if that "a lot" is conscious, subconscious or unconscious.

>>41802539
>>41802578
thanks anon. is there a way i can speak to you more? do you have discord or anything?

What are the difference between reality shifting techniques and LOA techniques? Aren't they the same thing?

>>41802724
Pleromassecondeye discord

>>41802753
The difference is that LoA techniques are usually benign, neutral-evil or even good aligned, non-intrusive when it comes to others mostly. Reality shifting, while using very similar methods, aims at genocide on a massive scale sometimes, otherwise it aims at even more immediate results on even more of a massive scale with the same level of effort or a similar level of effort put in. My system on the other hand relies on similar effort for lesser effect, but real effect, the Holy Art of Brain Cell Killing and Creating (and Other Similar Thinking Materials).

Estimate the blessings and curses God Almighty will be able to make the time to provide in your life going forward, and pray for that in the way of asking the installation of cells in other beings and in you, and similar changes. Do not run from fate. There is a land without bad fates.

We should install some more cells and changes so that those that reality shift are really just practicing LoA and don't know it but with some modifications (the elements of the story they most want to manifest will be prioritized over others) and of course they won't really be blamed for trying to genocide everything away because they clearly don't get the gravity of what they attempt. You'd think the first time you tried to manifest away everything as it is and it didn't work you'd fear for your soul because obviously someone or many someones stopped you.

In the future as part of the process of growing myself a new prefrontal cortex I must learn more about lying, I must learn to larp some. I could practice "reality shifting".

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>>41791203
Recommend techniques for reslity shifting

Dropping some truth-bombs from myself, various books + my Higher Self:

>“If you repeat a thought, or say a word, over and over again – not once, not twice, but dozens, hundreds, thousands of times – do you have any idea of the creative power of that? A thought or a word expressed and expressed and expressed becomes just that – expressed. That is, pushed out. It becomes outwardly realised. It becomes your physical reality." – God (“Conversations With God: Book 1”)

>The universe mirrors the energy that you hold. If you're in a victim-based mindset – holding a low vibrational mindset about yourself – you get those results back from the universe. On the other hand, if you improve your perception about yourself – and start to believe that you're capable of much more – then you'll receive more and more from the universe. Reality can be as beautiful as our thoughts will allow.

>We make realities out of our thoughts, and thoughts out of our realities. We are the dream and the dreamer.

>"All of humanity has been spending its life waiting to live life, imagining it to be somewhere over the horizon. You cannot have anything you want, for to want something is to affirm that it is not already a present reality. This affirmation becomes your experience. When you truly have something, you no longer want it, for it is already a present reality. Waiting = wanting = want = poverty. Each 'want' is a fractal the mind travels down, thinking there will be an end to it, endlessly chasing the horizon, thinking if they just keep going – just get a little bit closer – they will finally grasp and taste it. And if it should finally arrive, before they can taste it – truly taste it – it is gone, quickly passing them by. This madness is the human condition. It is the root cause of all suffering.” – Higher Self (Personal Revelation)

>>41802753
They are different.
Reality shifting tends to invoke a similar state to one if the LOA techniques. In LOA it is often called sats but it gets called a phase number in gateway project and non-larpers call it the hypnagogic state.
Some LoA techniques don’t use it at all.
Either way both are larping so whatever.

All this LOA stuff is basically just prayer but for new agers?

If LOA works then do something like change your hair color, or eye color, or height. Or make your eyesight 20/20 if you wear contacts / glasses, or heal a scar. If you can't command your body to do simple things how can you command external reality?

>>41805133
I changed my eyesight from 17.75/20 to 20/20

>>41802753
>difference between reality shifting techniques and LOA techniques
With LOA you make something happen in your life.
With reality shifting you move to a different reality where your wish already exists.
>Aren't they the same thing?
To some of us, they are. That is the point of this thread. On /loa/ we'd be crucified, hang, and burned, for daring to say that these are the same.
At the very least they are two different ways to achieve the same result.
I suggest you try both.
What we miss in this thread is people who know each technique well and can introduce them.

>>41802578
This guy is right. Manifesting your desires from the state of peace and silent confidence feels effortless. Thanks for the reminder, I haven't been in that state for a while and should focus on it more.

>>41802949
I don't really understand what you are saying but creating brain cells sounds like cancer to me.

>>41805133
Some anons claimed that they did change the color of their hair or eyes, and height. One claimed he fixed a skull asymmetry. One had a leg slightly shorter than the other and he fixed that.
For my part I tried to make disappear the hair on my armpits but no success so far.

>>41805871
>At the very least they are two different ways to achieve the same result.
No, because one of them is going to another place and the other typically is trying to do stuff in this.
Yes you can argue otherwise but no one can agree. They definitely don’t seem the same at all and bunching them together just invites more problems.

>>41793321
If you are walking into a ditch, you can think to yourself "I am totally not gunna fall into this ditch" but you will fall in anyway.
It is about wanting something and knowing how to get there.

>>41805892
I'm saying that people who try to shift realities, as opposed to manifesting that their desires come true via LoA practices in this reality, could potentially do great harm if they were to succeed, that since they're mostly harmless ignorant mere imagineers lost in their own ideas we can manipulate what their unconsciousnesses output into Creation in thought so that their "reality shifting" practices really function as manifesting only and not armageddon attempts and have it help the rest of us with our manifesting, and we can avert this danger and improve this performance by growing brain cells and killing them and small parts of them, and doing similar things to similar biology and computer circuits and etc., we can make extremely useful what is useless.

>>41806127
Ah yes the typical /x/ guru comment
>i-its dangerous!

>>41806137
I was saying the opposite. You're the one >implying that my methods are dangerous via a method so cowardly only long experience with 4chan's cowardice would recognize it.

>>41806144
Damn I’ve been here too long,
My eyes are open.

>>41803163
Any ideas? I'm looking for something that works well.

>>41806127
I just want to relive my teenage years desu

>>41806626
Look it’s easy.
First learn astral projection. Don’t have that down yet? Do that first.
Once you have that skill then project back to the point in time you are interested in. Take over your previous body.
Thats it job done. Actually why are you even asking. That’s it. That’s a process. Go do it. Having issues with it? Well get on with it.

>>41806682
I wasn't aware you could astral project into the past.

>>41805136
Was it through LOA or did you do any exercises to change it?

>>41806682
A few questions. Have you done it before? If so, how far back did you travel? Does the (you) in the past have to be sleeping as well, or can I just take over my waking consciousness at any point in time?
I've already found & began learning an extremely potent & consistent AP method, but I need it to be permanent. Any other tips you can offer? Or is it really that simple?

>>41806127
>>41802949
you are the Liber Falxifer guy, aren't you?

>>41805960
and i became bulletproof kek , don't believe the larpers here you retard.

>>41806682
This is very interesting, can you give more information on this? Have you done it? If so how many times? Did you struggle with something in particular?

>>41806906
Would you mind sharing your method?

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As a divine human being, you do indeed have the power to influence reality and manifest because of non-duality, and the fact that you are essentially God:

You are "God" because experiencing and being conscious is a manifestation of the things you're conscious of in the first place. You can't see a bicycle.
A bicycle is a thing your experience creates. A “bicycle" might not look like that when viewed from another dimension for example. This is *your experience* and it is entirely self contained. It has to be. You cannot experience something outside your senses. If it were outside your senses you would have nothing to sense it with!
So all experience is internal. Things that seem like foreign objects outside are actually only existing in your own head.
Now you say "they must exist outside of me. I'm not hallucinating all of this". Well yes...sort of. What I'm saying is that the "physical world" itself is your experience of it. You are experiencing something and that's why it exists to you.

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>>41808193
Cont.

In short, the stuff around you exists to you as your senses telling you stuff. The rock is there because you see it and feel it. Both internal things.
You can argue that is an objective fact that a rock is there whether you see it or not yes, but you cannot argue a rock is there if you are looking at a blank space. The world "outside" your body only exists as a concept you create based on feelings "inside" your body.
Therefore you are an extension of the outside. You are a naturally occurring observer. Imagine if the world has no living beings. There were just rocks and sand.
In this case you're picturing a planet covered in rocks and sand in the sunlight yes? But there is noone to see it. So by picturing it you're inserting yourself into the world and negating the "no living beings" part.
But the rocks still exist even if there's nobody there to experience them. They just don't exist to anything that doesn't experience them and only come into what we call "existence" when *we* experience them.
So, you are creating reality by observing it. Therefore it is an extension of you. In fact you could say you're also an extension of it. or even go so far as to say
"You" and "It" are just distinctions; labels made by humans to organize a material experience into individual "things" that we can point to, but the world being made up of separate things is just one framework. It's useful for communicating with other humans, but isn't raw reality. It's an organizational grid we put over reality.

>>41791203
Well these threads aren't very smart. That's a diodic barrier for a reason.

>>41808271
Tell us more.

>>41805871
What techniques are unique to reality shifting as opposed to LOA?

>>41806906
The other you should be asleep.
Trying this on yourself before the brain is mature is risky. Don’t risk going back before 18 or so.
You will spin off a different version of things very quickly so don’t expect things to go the same way. Small changes make big effects. Get as close to the main event you want to change as possible or it will get unpredictable.
If the astral projection is working for you then yes it’s that easy. Can I give you any proof? No. But that’s it. It’s just like that.

can I use the law of attraction to shit my pants?

>>41809208
How do you turn back the clock while astrally projecting? Is this permanent?

>>41807904
As far as I’ve learned, here’s a step-by-step
>Recognize that you’re (currently) limited by your unconscious self
>Allow yourself to relax with MABA (mind awake, body asleep), there’s a sweet spot
>Communicate with the part of yourself that is limiting you. Dialogue with it, understand it and why/how it’s blocking you
>Express gratitude to that aspect of yourself
>Now release that aspect of yourself, and instill a new function (however sometimes this may not be necessary). Word it carefully and make sure your intent is precise.
>Still in MABA, express your desire for this new function to come into effect, and then express gratitude for it being carried out.

This removes any limiting beliefs. To actually project, every “method” is essentially a ritual that we use in order to satisfy our need to be in “control” of what happens.

Essentially, we don’t make OBEs/APs happen, we simply ask or allow for them to happen under the most optimal conditions. One of the most important feelings is “trust” and that trust we place in our higher self is what allows these experiences to happen. You remove the feeling of responsibility, which removes the anxiety, which frees your unconscious/higher self to travel. Like LOA, you have to set your intent, KNOW it will happen, feel that it’s done, then let go.

To an extent, realists are correct; of course WE don’t have the supernatural power to transfer our consciousness. “You” can’t do it wrong because “you” can’t do it. That power is reserved for your higher self. Once you allow yourself to feel the OBE state, it will simply happen.

>>41809208
Thank you for the advice. It makes sense that you’d be unable to provide proof, as you’d be in an entirely different timeline. I will try to go back 6 months, and then a year. Hopefully I’ll be able to retain the method. Godspeed & good luck, fellow anons.

>>41809768
Actually yes. If you think about a bodily action hard enough you’ll probably trigger it.
Some anons in the loa threads thought about their hand moving for so long it appeared to raise on its own. Now this is just triggering an autonomic response rather than warping reality.
But it does work.
So for you, sure, you can shit yourself.

>>41809902
Good luck anon. Safe journey.

>>41806906
>but I need it to be permanent
Did you get to astral project temporarily? If so, please share!!

>>41809208
The reason I want to go back is because I don't want things to go the same way.

>>41809768
You can use the manifestation to make other people shit their pants, even, not just yourself. There are times during Creation where Satan will come close to successfully making others shit their pants, but every success is stolen from Satan because every time somebody else changes the timing of the shit, so that innocents are not hurt by the psychic powers unleashed due to the timing and nature of the shit.

Thus, anytime you succeed at making someone shit themselves, you're actually doing us all a favor and it was right and good as well as fated.

Grow brain cells in others. Destroy them. If you get bored enough, do the same in yourself. Destroy with a goal in mind, so that the destructions help achieve that, and do the same with creation.

IS the "no going back" thing, true?
Am I really 100% making an irreversible decision if I Shift Realities?
>btw, I don't mean tiktok shifting--I mean changes, plausible\possible ones, within my own personal timeline

>>41810902
What do you mean by growing brain cells and destroying them? You keep posting about it

>>41810965
We live in the present, when you make a choice you change the future. The past is always the past.

Set my mind to this bottle...
Manifesting a game of drink...
Outcome...
Hung the fuck over...
Minus a few brain cells...
Then time to reroute...

>>41813538
Make the right choice this time.

>>41805996
The result is the same, and the exercises of LOA are often used by reality shifters. I'd say that both shift but only one knows, the other thinks he altered his reality instead, because this is what he believes, and from his point of view it looks like this is what happened. One should just not care if it's about altering reality or shifting to another, this is not what is important.

>>41808691
>What techniques are unique to reality shifting as opposed to LOA?
I wish we had experts here. I know too little about it, I would mislead you. Unfortunately the "best" place I know is reddit, /DimensionalJumping/ or /shiftingrealities/ , many different techniques are introduced there, but it's so much filled with delusional people who cry success as soon as they successfully imagined something for a couple seconds that it's annoying and discouraging. It often involves accessing the void, then from that void making the gateway to you desired reality appear, and enter it, which is very different from LOA.

To do anything crazy you need to go to unstable parts of reality with high paranormal activity and do psychedelics. That will loosen things up enough.

>>41809208
>>41809902
Thanks for these information.

>mind awake, body asleep
This is what the gateway tapes are all about by the way. If someone needs help to reach this state, I recommend giving the tapes a try: [spoiler]https://mega.nz/folder/Ns9mhDSC#iKKxSnq5EoG_GxYLeylrSg/folder/Vt8l3IBQ[/spoiler]

>>41813521
What about retrocausality?

>>41810965
Why would your previous reality disappear or become inaccessible just because you shifted to another? And are you talking about changing your past?

I spent the last 25 years experimenting with manifestation and got it down to pretty much a science.

I've worked out only two reliable methods, and they only work on my body; things like growing my dick, my nuts, staying young and stuff. It also turns out that someone else already figured out one of these methods and named it "the flow state,"...although the explanations I've seen online of that are very lacking.

The other one is plain old auto-suggestion performed in a deep altered state but with some caveats.

I never had success with "law of attraction" or whatever the hell they're calling it these days, but I know first hand how much influence an obsession can have on wider reality in the way of producing big synchronicities and other weird but unprofitable shit.

>>41791203
All your efforts to manifest are thwarted because I spend my time manifesting your failure.

>>41817332
You failed to get those trips. I don't expect you to be able to oppose me.

>>41817033
Mind explaining in more detail about your techniques? I know changing aspects about one's physical appearance that people claim are impossible are in fact possible as I have done it myself but so far I've only had success with subliminals and guided hypnosis recording. The problem is they take awhile and I don't always have time to listen to them.

>>41791203
Is it possible to manifest a spiritual recreation/rebirth of my SP and then attract her to me? She is wonderful deep down but her environment and experiences changed her. If I had the old version of her, we would be able to prosper together

>>41818741
The LOA way is the easiest: when you go to bed, in state akin to sleep, visualize her being her old version again and you being happy with her. Make it feel as real as possible. Repeat the scene over and over. During the day avoid thinking about it too much, just consider that it is now set on your timeline, it is coming. They say you must stop giving importance to it. Try to even accept the idea of it never happening, because ironically this is what will help it come true.
Gateway patterning is very similar but you have to first go through several gateway exercises.
Oneirosophy also has a simple trick with two glasses: take two glasses, pour some drink in the first glass, consider that this is your current situation, the empty glass is your desired situation, then pour the first glass into the second one, and drink.
Reality shifting would also fit in your case but it's longer and harder to learn and achieve.

Why don't I have motivation anymore? I know what I want, but I'm also attached to this reality. Why can't I just let go?

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>>41819236
Those shitty techniques are so stupid I can't believe you actually manage to type that shit without laughing.

>>41819332
What are your techniques?

Whats the unifying theory that brings all these magics together? Where's the sense to be made of it?

>>41819343
You are asking the wrong question here and avoiding talking about the obvious issues.
You honestly think pouring water into glasses and comparing them to hypothetical situations will somehow magically change your world? That somehow that will link the glasses to reality and shape it?
Is anyone really that fucking dumb?
How do you even make it through the day?

>>41819399
So what's your method?

Ive realized, ever since I was a kid, in moments of absolute calm and clarity, in moments of flow and focus, I would get clairvoyant daydreams from the perspective of a participant. There has been a systemic effort to disturb my nervous system by different means. My recent dream after total emotional resignation and detachment, was of a supposed attack in France on either october or june 18th, a green tower with a bell stands out, mass civil unrest, most likely terrorism or a foreign saboteur group. It was by far the most vivid dream I have ever had, i wouldnt be surprised if it was a actually just dream manipulation by a third party. Interesting nonetheless. Along with my latent clairvoyance, Ive had the ability to manifest things and situations quite rapidly when my belief aligns. The problem, however, was always my own self doubt which is diminishing by each passing day as clarity regarding my situation surfaces. My recent breakthroughs in discernment have been extremely beneficial. From being able to clock GSs to having a profound intuition, my skillset grows. I am starting to see myself as a walking problem to the powers that be.

>>41819427
Why would you need techniques for something that simply claims you think/believe to change the universe?

>>41819455
>muh gangstalking post.

Test

>>41819520
Just stop.

What if the law of attraction was instant?
What if Donald Trump was president?
What if I won the lottery?

>>41791203
>First thing that comes to mind is the famous double-slit experiment
Well it shouldn't, because very obviously tracking the location of a basketball by hitting it with other basketballs will influence how that basketball behaves.

>>41819544
This.
Larpers just use it because they think anything with quantum or theoretical physics automatically backs up infinite realities and the mind controlling matter. It never does.

>>41819475
What's your method though? Or will you only laugh at what other people do and not contribute, lest you be judged

I'm weirdly demoralized today, almost to an uncanny degree. Did I die in my sleep?

>>41819645
Why would I not laugh at fucking idiocy?
Why you refuse to acknowledge the stupidity and deflect is the issue that needs answered.
You want to tell me someone really did that shit and didn’t realise they were a clown straight away?

>>41819667
You don't want to share your own thoughts or ideas and only laugh at other people's. I was actually curious at first but now I've lost interest.

>>41819557
To be fair, some of the shit actual quantum physicists come up with isn't any less retarded

My only problem with manifestations, is it seems like the rules change when it comes to masturbation? I've manifested people, a job, food, and probably a hundred things without trying, but how come I'm still a virgin if I pretty much I use all sorts of visualization and feeling as if I had a partner etc, but never ever have I managed to get laid, I smell used underwear, I rub myself against pillows, cumming or not cumming, it's all the same, I've done everything this board has suggested for over 15 years and I'm still a loser virgin.

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>>41819812
I have wondered this myself and I honestly think the more likely scenario is that there are things with a lot more friction, what is friction? Let's say that if you have manifested jobs and money and stuff then you never really had an extremely poor self image regarding these things.
Even if you are a person that makes very little money, maybe deep down you think to yourself "this is not a big deal" and boom, once you put the manifestation effort into it, it materializes fast as there aren't many negative thoughts affecting your manifestation.
But let's say that for very sensible themes of your life that you have actively struggled with for years, there is this entire narrative in your head about how impossible getting a partner is, and deep down your self image is very poor in this area, then this creates friction, everytime you try to manifest stuff in this specific area, you possibly have very deep traumas in your psyche that, even when you think "I have already forgotten, gotten over it, etc" actually lie buried deep within your mind.

Tl.dr.
Go to therapy and sort this shit out man.

>>41819812
Sometimes I've wondered if it matters if it's your DNA that causes you to think something for manifestation to work correctly, or if it matters if it's "you", some sort of disembodied self-actualizing self inside you, or somewhere.

Prairie dogs have been observed masturbating using stones, if I remember the article correctly they may have even evolved a different gene from a different subset of prairie dogs recently in evolutionary history. Either way it's biological their masturbation, natural, for you assume that prairie dogs rank lower than us in consciousness yes? Perhaps if you're defeated by your DNA into engaging in a behavior you'd rather not, LoA doesn't take that as a cue to give you whatever you want for no reason. You have to use your Casper inside yourself to will something for the manifestation powers-that-be to respect it.

I don't actually think that, but I have wondered it. It can be healthy and useful to consider alternative ideas.

I'm starting to think that I'm not being entirely honest with myself about my desires.

>>41819718
Those aren’t ideas they are fucking retarded.

>>41819950
And what are your ideas you fucking coward

>>41819935
Now this is mental illness right here.

>>41819956
How can I be a coward if I am I not afraid to confront bullshit whereas you go along with any trash?
All these deflection posts and you still won’t come out and say you know how fucking stupid >>41819236 is.

>>41819968
Do you believe in loa or shifting? What are your beliefs, what do you believe in? I know what you don't believe. What do you believe or think is true?

>>41819347
>Whats the unifying theory that brings all these magics together? Where's the sense to be made of it?
The point of this thread is to find it.

>>41819332
>>41819399
Maybe the purpose of the two glasses thing is to make you expect the result to come and trigger the "magic power" that is inside you, the one that makes the placebo effect work. Most magic are about doing some ritual, that others may find silly, then expect a result, and the magic seems to always be way more in the believing part than in the ritual itself.

>>41819455
>manifest things and situations quite rapidly when my belief aligns
>The problem, however, was always my own self doubt
Yet another sign that believing is the most important part.

>clock GSs
What is this?

>>41819812
Maybe you give it too much importance. Transurfing has an interesting explanation of this, the pendulum.

>>41819347
Universal line is pretty much as close to a unified theory as you can find.

>>41820038
>Universal line
I find these pictures incredibly hard to understand. :( Am I the only one?

>>41818438
I'm not too good at speaking but I'll try...
First off they both work by what occultists calls "layering" where you're going at it multiple times every day. The actual work is just basic affirmations and visualization, or for those with aphantasia like me, you replace visualization with "feeling" with your mind. I used to do it every hour.

They're also fueled by emotion, like any magick is. Stronger emotions are better. Sexual emotion is strongest for some reason.

The "flow state" method may too much most people for obvious reasons. In short, it's about being in a seriously good fucking mood where one is basically euphoric, all the time every single day, but *not* from drugs. It has to be generated by physical activity, of a kind you enjoy doing, e.g. lifting, hiking, fixing the house, whatever activity gives you a big natural high and makes you feel like you're large and in charge. In other words it won't come from sitting around all day online.

I don't know how the "flow state" looks on the brainwave level, whether it's a trance/altered state or not, but somehow it allows one's intentions to pierce the veil as they say. It generates a lot of power and doing affirmations+visualization every hour or so in this state causes things to manifest with unbelievable speed. For instance the first time I did this with my dick it grew an inch longer in a week.

Also, it only worked if I went a week (7 days) without orgasm first. Other people's experience may differ, but If I ever orgasmed in the middle of working on myself this way, my progress immediately halted. Loss of so-called chi or some shit, I dunno, I can't see what's happening non-physically, but it means some of that "no fap" stuff is true, at least in *my* experience.

>>41820791
>>41818438
The other method I found is affirmations+visualization in an altered state, running anywhere from deep alpha to theta. Those are too hard to explain if you haven't experienced them. Emotions are still necessary there but they lose importance the deeper you go. In a theta wave level state a person becomes so merged with the subconscious that intentions alone will spur manifestation, but the process takes a little longer than with the "flow state."

The theta level one sounds like ordinary self-hypnosis no doubt, but it still requires me to go a week without orgasm, and the old rule of not "lusting for results" applies. Those are the caveats I mentioned. In my experience not "lusting for results" just means not looking at, touching, or thinking about the part of myself I'm working on.

That's all.

>>41820796
correction: I meant alpha to deep theta

>>41819935
The reason isn't masterbation it's the consistent narrative and emotional state. Masterbation is an energetic discharge that comes with hormonal spikes for an entire week. It's not that masterbation and visualization doesn't work it's that your working under inefficient conditions and probably third person in your own fantasy.

In short it's like asking why narcissistic people aren't all gods. Because they don't actually believe what they preach. It's usually the opposite

You can't actually fool your subconscious. Not like that.

>>41819812
See
>>41821262

>>41821262
Not that anon but how to I change my subconscious? How do I stop feeling like a spectator to my desired reality? Also: How do I stop wanting to cry and feeling hurt and like a fraud when I try to say certain affirmations when I don't feel like they're true?

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>>41820791
Physically it's the reabsorbtion of lecithin, folate, choline. I could drop about 12 studies. I won't. The second is the physical processes in the body. It's refinement of the reabsorbed materials into the spinal fluid and organs. This proccess is helped by meditation.

The rising power an flow state is because you are actually storing energy. Recycling it in the body. 3 days of no release and you don't need more then 4 hours of sleep.

Fasting and other practices compound this. Fasting causes you to produce human growth hormone. So with SR ur essentially on steroids until you stop

Considering the mechanics of the law of correspondence. You don't need more then these practices and steady direction to become savant level in anything. You dreams manifest easily.

>>41821294
Good. You already are questioning the correct things. Youre depersonalization is not a curse. You'll be fine. The detachment comes with the territory.

Stop worrying about the outcomes. About the past. About mistakes. About potential futures you may have.

Cultivation is the purification of these things. These things are the true meaning behind sin. You must forgive yourself. You must learn to lean everything on the presence within

When you sit in stillness. Your brain will automatically think. Even when you want to focus on the moment. You must remind yourself that you have a choice. To not be sucked into the emotions of your oncoming wave of memory. Even when you fail and get caught for 20 minutes. Just relax and try to turn away from your current emotions. Back to the moment.

Again and again. And as you do so forgive yourself for everything brought to the mind. Forgive every memory. Try. Imagine being loved by something from within that had never judged you and never will. That has always been waiting for you to acknowledge it be surrendering.

You can stop trying. It's a Chinese fingertrap universe.

>>41820017
The unifying theory already exists. All the mystical systems are in fact exactly that manifestation. Is correspondence and magnetism. These function specifically and according known understanding.

The kabbala is a complete breakdown of the human psychical structure. And how that structure is mirrored in the universe.

The chakra system focuses on the body. With extrapolations that are highly specific. Bit they both do the same thing. And are both observations of different aspects of the same universe.

Vibration is consistent emotional state.
Humans manifest their conditions 24/7 based on their consistent emotional state and narrative.
If you unknowingly have been thinking and feeling like shit you produce shit. But if you think and feel good you produce good.

Thinking and feeling a certain way long enough causes you to manifest that vibration and those thoughts from the subconscious likes lapping waves on a beach. But if you are aware you can notice this pattern. And willfully chose otherwise.

Doing so consistently with all negative thoughts will purify the mind and the manifestations you make. It takes time for many because of our crazy ass conditions. But there's nothing else going on. No ritual or calculation required. Consistently think and self correct towards anything and it eventually is accepted into the subconscious

The subconscious has no concept of real vs fiction. All is real. Do consistent thinking and the constant changing of the mind when negative thoughts arise. Will always produce a better life and manifest dreams. Automatically. Without effort.

>>41821337
Thank you. Sincerely.

>>41819486
>muh mockery of a genuine concept
Some of you retards should look up Surveillance roleplay jobs near you. That alone is enough. Civvie retards are hired to play pretend to further an agenda that is beyond their comprehension. Innocent individuals are targeted consistently and their social circles are, especially in this day and age, susceptible to corruption for petty gains. Your family and supposed for friends WILL be turned against you for cash. You WILL be targeted of what you say makes sense one too many times, the only thing you can do is fight back and persist. As soon as the game starts, by its very nature, it never ends. Gained discernment cannot be lost, everything is a scam, everything is fake including your social dynamics. As soon as you see through the veil, you will NEVER be able to return to normal despite your best efforts. Society WILL push you out and try to humiliate you, people will resort to tthe most pathetic strategies possible to try and dissuade you from the absolute truth. You MUST be able and willing, regardless of your results, to act against them, to spite them, to hurt them beyond measure and seek your own freedom in tandem to your cause. Once you wake up, you will never fall asleep again. Once you see through the charade, the magic of it all ends. People are just animals that stare at funny shapes, the second you step beyond that framework, you begin to see people for who they genuinely are and the byproduct of that insight is either the intent to harm or the intent to heal (which quickly turns into babysitting retards if you still have an ego and the need for social approval from those less competent). Some of us are on their last cycle, some of us have learned their lessons, some of us reject false dichotomies and embrace liberation at its purest form. Some of us are more known than is necessary and some of us have a cause that is beyond the scope of the average NPC. Some of us became celebrities the day we were born.

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>>41822073
>muh persecution complex
have you tried, yknow, not being an extremist schizo freak? the people in your life who leave are clearly just tired of putting up with your bullshit.

Quantum pathing. No matter how low, there is probability at play. In 3D where we reside physically, we are at the hands of the clock 4D. Higher than that you have perception past time, perfect or imperfect as it may be. In order to manipulate this probability or navigate these quantum pathways meaningfully and with purpose, a honing of that perception is necessary.
There exist many ways to hone it. Being psychoanalysis, psychoactive substance, repetition, meditation. Typically id advise the use of intuition. Meta analysis of the self has been helpful for me. Ive delved into singular unified consciousness theory as well as the more well meaning and "good" parts of human nature in the collective unconscious. This presented several brick walls to bash my head against "money" "blocked pathways" "insanity" and even some rather nasty 4 5 or 6 dimensional entities. Keep in mind they're hard to percieve, but the truth does shine through to the mind with an open eye.
If you wish to. . . Keep an open mind, open your eyes to opportunity, and hone/direct your will towards an end.

>>41822134
>quantum
It’s always posts that start with this that are profoundly stupid.
It’s a good signal that to read any further would be to waste valuable seconds.

>>41796928

>You’ve had the astral projection to the past method in the LoA threads, I saw some anon put that there.

i cant remember if that was me but i "accidently" manifested almost nightly OBEs for 3 weeks.

>>41820229
No, you're not the only one. I've practiced occult things and meditation since age 5 and I find those picrels obtuse at best. Part of the problem is the use terms that have no widely accepted meaning. I feel that for the terms to mean anything you need to possess skills that can actually perform the functions those phrases are expressing. With these small-scale homebrew religions, unless you're going to try and use your occult powers to read the mind of the religion creator, the reader ends up needing to ascribe their own personal meaning to some of the terminology, even mainstream religions sometimes won't describe something that needs explaining without using other things that are unknown and need describing being used to explain them. Many of them (the false religions) are built from the ground up to lead any suspicious person from one, planned, unprovable scam to the next, they operate using terminology that was never meant so much as an explanation and more like a cake, meant to reward the seeker of knowledge by providing empty calories that will point to the "need" for more empty calories.

So... How do I reality shift? Where to start? Is there a beginner's guide?

>>41823661
go to youtube, look up shifting, and pick the hottest slut you can find

>>41824818
Youtubers are among the very last people I would expect to hear anything interesting from. Basically the only reason why people create youtube channels is to try to make money, they never create a channel to really share any knowledge. Especially those who use a hot girl. And for only a few youtubers make money and all the millions of other ones make a few cents a year at best, they create more and more shit, with ridiculous clickbait thumbs and titles, believing that this will help them become famous and successful at last. I hate youtube and youtubers. If I had some knowledge and I wanted to share it with people, I would not create a youtube channel, I would not sell a book either, I would come to 4chan or a forum and share it, directly, for free.

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>>41825523
>Don't trust anyone not in muh honeypot
>Yootoobers are bad becuz... le money!!
Huh that makes me incredibly sceptical of anything you have to say

Anything further I can do to get this job I want? Been giving myself affirmations (not I will get this position but that I am position), visualizing the offer message, sigil and all that jazz.

So I'm currently working on achieving altered states (Hypnagogia, void state, meditative trance, lucid dream, whatever) and I'm having trouble. A lot of the reality checks and other shit people recommend you to do doesn't work because even if I remember my dreams well enough, I don't have the agency to do the reality checks.
I've tried a lot of the LoA shit before but didn't get anywhere because I can never get to the "it is done" feeling by affirming or meditating etc. Meditation itself is difficult because I don't know what I should be focused on or feeling in the moment so I mostly just sit there with my eyes closed.

Does anyone have any advice?

>>41791683
r/NG? I couldn't find anything on reddit. Can som1 link it?

>>41826036
Stick with it. That was my experience for decades, not ever really knowing if I was meditating correctly but mostly just being silent with eyes closed, never once getting that "done" feeling, not having agency for manipulating dreams...or some of my waking thoughts for that matter. But now it's better, it's so much better for me, it gives my life meaning the affirmations and and I see the results of my manifestations.

The most important facet I can't stress enough is you must change yours, and others thinking material. Change the brain cells of Creation, the circuitry, the stars, the Gods. Your capacity to think, how you think, what you think, is in their hands along with yours, and in empty spaces outside in space and outside of space. Reclaim the territory that is your mind in these places, to destroy and create as needed in these faraway places, and call it "you"...for the most important key to unlocking the next plateau in your spiritual journey may lay inside the future or the past, inside a king, the ultimate secret to helping you scratch your balls perfectly. Don't miss the perfect scratch.

>>41791203
Any time I want something I just set my mind to it and get out of my own way. I do not try to achieve whatever it is I want I simply let it come to me, any action I take will only get in the way.

What's the role of the default mode network in all this and how would you exploit it

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>>41796405
Several questions:
>>41797789
Point 5 of the first thing: Is this basically starting life from that age there then with all the knowledge? The world/dimension/universe melts together and you got a New Game+ basically?
The 2nd thing sounds too escape-ish for me, so Imma leave it at time travel for me. I like this reality where I am now. Maybe I just can't cope properly, huh?
>>41797782
>deaths undone
How does this work?
>go back in time
>save friend
>go back to regular time
Am I to think of it like "The Butterfly Effect (2004)" that when I am back in real time, memories will just flush me (hopefully without consequences)? Or as in my previous question, does the world/dimension/universe bends to my will and reforms itself after correcting the past?

And the worst question of all: will my actions have consequences or will the world/dimension/universe fix them? As in "Legacy of Kain" does the world/dimension/universe abhor a paradox and will make it so that every person (and action, but let's just say people) still will be born as before I went back or are these people lost and will never come into existence?
I don't have a wife, but I imagine the horror of going back in time, living your life with knowledge and when you get to the age when you should have met your wife - she doesn't exist, whether her parents have a completely different child now, never had any or each parent had [found] a different spouse?
Additionally: Would there be a way of constant premonition like in "Donnie Darko" where you can see the path you went? Like, can you switch between taking control of your now younger body and auto-pilot playing and acting out what you had acted out in the past?

>>41826450
Before I start, the default mode network is the same set of brain areas involved in other functions as well of course, so that the default mode network is not the end-all be-all of these functions and brain areas.

Given that the act of intentionally trying to retrieve something via memory is tied to the default mode network as well as to social cognition, to understanding your place in society and what is expected of you, and resting, I think this points to intentionally remembering things of one's own volition for mind-wandering purposes began as social cognition in our pasts, and that this was the closest thing to rest our ancestor cavemens' minds would allow them most of the time because of their hunger and paranoia. The evolution of thought processes including the prefrontal cortex, not just the default mode network but other processes via combinations of brain regions as well, are vital in thinking about what other people think about us and what they're doing a whole lot of the time and we have evolved how to do this in a very calorie efficient way as a result. We can devise and grow brain cells involves in the default mode network to improve our memories, our ability to social, rest our thoughts and biologies, to incline our minds to fall back on the default mode network with differing frequency, many things are possible. All of this was stuff I theorized about how that part of the brain, part of it's processes, works in humans when I was 5 and of course I had not read of it at that age. The default mode network hadn't been devised as an idea yet when I was 5, but then that wasn't the only idea I had when I was 5 that wasn't invented yet.

At age 5 I began trying to incorporate my default mode network into my occult practice in many ways, including via this assumption: that when we imagine other people in the "ordinary way" (not occult powers so much) we represent them and their beliefs in certain places in our brains, and if we mutate the biologies of our brains near to those places we can misrepresent where these people we imagine are in space, in personality, in our unconsciousnesses, without thinking about it, on schedules, based on switches, however we like, and this could help protect them from spiritual powers, place them in danger, find opportunity to telekinetically teleport a completely unrelated thought from one point in space to another related to us and this person somehow...the possibilities are endless. I began changing at my nervous system towards achieving this affect at 5 when the majority of the voices that would arrive for my meditation that day in my mind began filing in and complaining.

>>41826450
I theorized as it felt like I was using the front part of my brain when thinking about different points in time that this default mode network may be involved in thinking through time, figuratively and literally, and being spied on by others through time, and that seeing oneself and everything else the "regular way" in time limits what one can do in occult powers because it seriously affects what they manifest, and the first step in my meditation I took was to meditate so hard that brain cells would begin to die just from the effort in my prefrontal cortex in such a way as to remove these limitations my default mode network placed on my time bending and other abilities long enough I could complete my meditation, and it worked.

>>41825693
He’s right though.
I will don’t trust a monetised influencer who’s sole goal is to make money via clicks.

>>41821294
You should look into Joseph Murphy. He wrote several books about manifesting and his most well-known is called "The Power of the Subconscious Mind" and in it he details how to use your conscious mind to reprogram your subconscious.

>>41828755
What reality warping powers did Murphy conclusively demonstrate?

>>41791683
My gf manifested a strand of hair turning very light brown to almost blonde. Back when she was younger and wishing she was Sailor Moon blonde. She did not control the strand but it appeared it's at the back of her head and so unlike the rest of her ash brown hair

Another thing she managed was stopping her period for an entire day, amid 2 weeks of heavy bleeding due to birth control pill. She focused hard an entire morning imagining the pad being blank and untouched by blood and that's what happened the entire day, granted it gave her some headaches. Not one drop of blood it was crazy, but the next day the magic reverted and she was too tired to focus again

>>41826437
Did you get to manifest improbable things?

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>>41821305
>Physically it's the reabsorbtion of lecithin, folate, choline
based and big load pilled.

>>41826036
yeah, stop doing that shit.

The only thing you should be doing from the lucid dreaming community is using vitamin b6 to enhance memory so you can start remembering your dreams.

Then starting a dream journal that eventually becomes a Dream map.

you use the dream journal to identify reaccuring dream objects and locations. A dream map connects your dreams together. you'll realize you're in a dream from dream locations and dream objects you encounter and become lucid. it's a long ass process.

The shortcut is use hypnotism and Raduga's indirect methods. they work immediatly and make you have lucid dreams multiple times a week because you hijack Hypnopompia (waking up trance).

I'll give you the TLDR;

Learn SSILD. It's hypnotism into lucid dreaming. This is your Hypnogagia Tool (going to sleep).
it works because you can do it multiple times a day/week. You'll go into a lucid dream guaranteed just from the frequency of use.

Go pirate Raduga's book "the phase". This is your hypnopompia (waking up) lucid dreaming tool.
The book teaches you to do lucid dreaming techniques when waking up. It works because you can use it multiple times a night, by waking yourself up multiple times a night.

have fun anon. you can learn raduga's techniques free on jewtube. same with SSILD.

>>41833321
The irony of recommending Raduga in a manifestation thread.
Yes his method works,
But he is 100% on the side of that state is a lucid dream that only happens in your own head. He does not think it affects the outside world. So it’s useless for this reality altering stuff.

>>41829215
Nice.

>>41806682
>First learn astral projection. Don’t have that down yet? Do that first.
You always say this like it's the easiest thing in the world that anyone can do, it's not very helpful.

>>41833983
Ok then it’s really hard for you.
You want to think like that then do so.

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If you made a jump from a different dimension or timeline to this one, what can you compare about this world compared to the one you came from? If this is your desired reality, can you tell us why? Any major historical events, family bonds, etc. that have changed or stayed the same?

>>41791203
i've been a chaos practitioner for many years. i had a client once who was being abused by her father. did a binding spell and had some help from a fellow witch. he had a heart attack the next day and his car was stolen by meth heads while he was in the hospital.

>>41834573
based

>chaos practitioner
Is it really about masturbating to a sigil?

I just watched the Why Files episode about synchronicities and a big part is about manifesting. It's interesting:
https://youtu.be/FpxLpEzJpAs

>>41834203
have u done it b4? how far back did u travel?

>>41834512
I remember an anon in a loa thread who claimed that his grandpa or uncle had died and he tried to reverse it because his father was too broken by it, and the following day the dead person was still alive, no one except him remembered that the man had died, which makes sense if he dimension-jumped instead of changing reality.

>>41840074
The anons in the loa thread tell lies constantly.

>>41840090
>nothing ever happens
let me guess, you believe getting a gf is a superhuman feat too.

>>41840475
No, that happens a lot.
Flying vampires who time travel. They had one of those.
There threads are full of hope and cope. Or at least they used to be, they are now simply dying,

>>41840090
There is no reason to lie when you are just an anon talking to other anons. They are not trying to sell books or get others to subscribe to their channel or anything.

>>41841228
That's a mistatement of the human condition. Some humans prefer to tell lies to truths, will default to it. In that case, there would be no reason to tell the truth.

That's the people of 4chan, though they're a flighty, flip-floppy kind, whether in attention or larp persona (and boredom level), they will tell the truth sometimes. Think of it like certain brain cells, lying ones, being more numerous and better functioning, with a larger tank of glucose to use for thought, than their truth-telling cells. The average human tells some sort of lie, whether exaggeration or important omission or something more like the whole interaction, 70% of the time when communicating face-to-face, and it's worse when people aren't face-to-face.

Still, if you kinda allow that most people are gonna try to save face and make themselves look good and get something from you, most people tell the truth mostly. But 4chan isn't most people.

>>41813505
Pruning the olive tree
Read about how Jesus cursed creation just for shits... Fig tree

>>41826466
Without knowledge. So don't do it, unless you're truly fucked. Nobody knows how to cope properly, that's why we're here. Earth is gay but it's fun to manifest winning lotto tickets. As for your fear of the future/past.... Don't worry

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Wht abt bldbrne thoo (bloodborne though)

>>41840606
Yeah, that's an obvious larper/schizo namefag. Like with motheranon, you see them mixing politics and offtopic beliefs there and you can be sure they're larping because someone who is winning in LoA have no need to ramble about those. You can't serve two lords.
I give you the threads are dead now. General was taken by some anons that act like they know and have success just to muddy the waters and now is trapped in a "I only want celestial, improbable superhuman feats" -> "Nothing ever happens cycle". Anyone sharing success stories there is casting pearls to swine and asking to be laugh at.

>>41841228
Larping for attention or simple trolling happens almost constantly on here. Lies vastly outnumber truth.

>>41826283
No, it was from a loa thread, here. It was around august or september I think.

Where to get good infos about reality shifting?
Reddit is only filled with people who share their "ultimate method" then admit that they have never shifted...
Youtube and similar are for charlatans...

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This is how it feels to hemi sync daily, I literallydo not believe in anything else.
https://youtu.be/HHshOvzERHQ?si=fDE-60BnQIDGfkdF

>>41844975
Probably smanon

>>41846299
Do you use it for manifesting?

>daily
No habituation effect? I was using the gateway tapes almost daily at one point but then they lost effect on me, I could not even reach focus 10 anymore. So I paused for two months, I started again a few days ago and it works again.

>>41846399
I just do this one the 30minutes long guided meditation, I ask question I get answer that's it. Dont know if it's due to hyperfocus or some supernatural stuff, don't care whatever it's great at making decisions really feels like I'm using poco loco's stand.

I just wanna manifest a cheeseburger

>>41844975
There are no good places.
It was daydreaming for zoomers during the pandemic.
That’s it.
Let it go, it’s so fucking dumb.

>>41846299
Can you do tulpamancy to manifest hey ya instead of doing 30 minutes of meditation to do this shit? Having a stand irl would be sick fr

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>>>41791203
>Now Then, In the Name of “Jupiter-Shekhinah”:
>As those who bless anyone of European descent are blessed in all ways,
>So those who curse anyone of European descent are cursed in all ways. Selah.
>Impunitively, “It is Fixed.” Amen, so mote it be. [777]

>>41846423
>I ask question I get answer
How? With words or non-verbal?
There are gateway tapes about asking questions and receiving answers, but I never received any answer. :(

>>41849559
Hey ya no,
Tulpas are making yourself mentally schizophrenic to the point something else you have manufactured takes over. As this personality is now out of your control it’s not going to do repetitive tasks. You will now be even more of a mess. Fr. Sick.

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SUCCESS STORIES:

I have used LoA, gateway tapes, lucid dreaming, and binaural beats (with ear plugs) to achieve paranormal results on a regular basis.

Recently, I had a string of run-ins with the law, leading to three (3) separate cases. By practicing all of the aforementioned, I had great outcomes and strange occurrences such as:

>the power went out in the court room 3x during a pretrial, with the automated clock spinning wildly to synchronize due to the time lapse. It also knocked out their ability to produce my complete records, leading to a significant reduction in charges.
VERY SURREAL
>in two different courts, a police officer and a security guard both whispered to me “you don’t deserve to be here.” Same intonation

>the person who placed a false complaint that started the whole thing had a house fire in one of their rental properties, prompting the city to seize their eighty (80) other ones.

>the fingerprinting machines in two courts both malfunctioned (and when I told the cop, he paused)

My main thought was my conviction of righteousness. I’d INTENSELY visualize harassing the judges to do the right thing, the public defender to get off her ass. I did as many Gateway Tapes as I could stand, combining these sessions with edibles 1/2 the time. Above all, I was protecting the innocent, as meth dealer attempted to intimidate a ten yo kid.

I can answer any questions, as I am also hoping to refine my own processes and go deeper.

>for the haters
My conclusion about shifting reality is that there’s an observer effect and plausible deniability happening concurrently. I believe it’s that inhabiting this middle ground is the KEY to conjuring while having a good reason.

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>>41853655
>cont.

I fulfill all the GATE kid prerequisites to a scary degree. I have spent many hours developing my spiritual centers and have noted that my presence, when I “turn it on”, triggers a type of reality distortion field. I can test this, as solitude and anonymity are also easy to find by manifesting an “invisibility” by embodying what Gurdjieff called “the sly man” persona.

This type of manifestation also seems to be when I’m spiritually aligned in a creative state. For example, when I’m playing piano, it suddenly triggers new freelance work assignments in my career.

Resonance also seems to play a part in on-demand manifesting. If I meet low or high vibrational people relative to me, there’s a psychic tug of war as some type of egregore is crafted. Combining this with my studies in Cold Reading and

>last thought
I find that 5G, Bluetooth/BLE, WiFi, or other pollution is causing unintended and/or targeted physiological symptoms (the rona), as well as blocking some of these manifestation powers. Binaural beats set at different frequencies tends to offset this “tinnitus”, which I also confirmed using a dog whistle app and aiming for 15,000 hz for phase cancellation.

>>41792343
This. Been working with nothing more than consciousness and positive thoughts and my life has changed dramatically in only two weeks. Positive thoughts and faith form the engine. I feel sorry for the other anon because he’s just straight missing out. And he’s probably a fag, too

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>>41853835
>Combining this with my studies in Cold Reading and…
other reasoning methods, I can sense if another person is gifted and potentially receptive. I’ve also had people give me a witches handshake in New Orleans, only for me to act stupid and expose them by saying, “why are you checking my pulse? am I having a stroke?”.

I also hitchhiked and jumped trains across US/Europe, catching rides with any people who confirmed these powers. Again, that same middle ground approach made me manifest rides that offered a variety of Odyssey-lite experiences.

What irks me most is that I may have other powers that I may be ignorant to.
>there’s nothing worse than wasted potential

Cannot manifest physical objects via thought alone.

Have occasionally precogd and had synchronicities.

Have attempted to AP, without success.

>>41791203
Now, to truly manifest something, I have a question. Affirming for example, is it constantly just thinking about the desire? Or is it knowing you have it? Or is it feeling like you have it? Or is it thinking about it once and forgetting it? Its confusing because we are technically just the ones observing the thoughts in our mind, not the thinkers. And how can we know something that we know isn't true? It just leaves feeling...fake it till you make it which I suppose is the strongest way

Ngl I feel like I have raw influence and it's too chaotic like it almost feels like I'm aware of my subconscious of what's about to happen and then it happens like this is a stupid example but I play TCG games and sometimes I can just feel the energy that day that if I open a pack I will literally pull the chase card I want and then it just happens and sometimes when people are talking to me it's almost like I know exactly what they're gonna bring up before they even say it it's weird like a weird chaotic energy that will spring up from time to time I wish I could have it regularly

I stumbled upon this one day in a dream. In my dream I came upon this huge, big pillar . . a pile driven into the ocean, and the bridge that it formerly supported was gone now. Only the piles remained. And I knew I was dreaming, and I figured to myself if I held that pile and I could touch it, if it seemed to me solidly real, what I am going to do: I’m going to hold onto that pile in the dream. I know it’s a dream, but I am going to hold that as solidly as I can and compel myself to awake holding the pile. Well, I did. I held the pile with all my might. I said, “Now, Neville, you know you are sleeping. You know that you are dreaming now. So awake!” And I awoke in the water, actually holding that pile and I am standing up in what formerly I knew to be a dream. It ceased to be a dream; it’s real. I’m in a world just as real as this and here I am, holding this enormous pile, and it’s in the East Indies (not the West Indies where I was born) . . it was in the East Indies, a very primitive area. And then some animal came down to the beach . . a strange. . looking creature, and at that moment I was a little bit … I was panicky. In that moment of shaking emotion I awoke on my bed in New York City.

>>41795222
You are just a white swan angry over the fact that black swans exist, and you will never be one.

So maybe try being one, and stop being so miserable. Or better yet, stop reading these threads.

>>41854723
He’s right though.

>>41851351
>How? With words or non-verbal?
Depends, they literally tell you in the tape it can be an image, a straight answer, a smell a feeling whatever. I usually get a straight answer and sometimes an image along with it.
There's a few trick to make this work, the hardest part is visualising the space they ask you to be in for me it's a beach on a french island I went on vacation to when I was a teenager. The second I fuck this up it's over I am very creative and have a great capacity for visualisation so that helps. I imagine the bed, mattress or couch I am currently in on that beach when doing the thing. It can be a forest or any place really I am locked in to that beach and never tried anywhere else because it works for me.
You need to do 48 hours no weed before doing this or it wont work, I would guess any other drug besides alcohol or cigarettes fucks this up as well, I dont do any drugs besides weed so I don't know the specific cooldown for each drug.
One of the first questions you should ask is "am I in hemi sync?" if the answer is no you fucked up somehow. You can spam the meditation until you get it but I would suggest trying again tommorow it'll be easier.
I do not do any decision without hemi sync anymore, my friends used to give me shit for it but it's so effective that when we have a situation at work I am often asked to do the hemi sync and come back with answers.
After asking am I in hemi sync once and getting a yes you can get out of it without noticing, if you feel anything wrong or doubt an answer you get ask again "am I in hemi sync" if you get a no you're out and need to try again. You need earbuds or headphones to do this obviously, no matter how shit the earbuds it usually works except if they are broken obviously any parasite sound and it doesnt work, I recommend earbuds, headphones are usually uncomfortable when resting your head on a pillow. 1/2

>>41851351
>>41855345
If you are not native english speaker use the english version of the youtube video, the dubs are shit and never work. Video needs to be in the high quality, 360p does not work. I will share my mindset regarding this specific 30 minutes long video maybe it doesnt have anything to do with my success with it maybe it does idk. I have no idea who I'm talking to, my best guess is I am talking to a version of myself who has both hemispheres connected, that's the answer I get from "it" anyway, I consider the getaway project and the world is a hologram theory as a creative project written by a bunch of matrix obsessed doped up cokehead glowies, for me this isn't a spiritual practice I am a die hard agnostic atheist have had a djinn encounter once on halloween and it was an actual bad omen but idk what it was demon or alien or just an unknown harmless species I dont know I dont care. I don't think mindset or belief has any correlation to the succes if this meditation but I though I would share that just in case. You're not talking to gid you're doing some brain mindlessness shit to make important decisions imo. 2/2

>>41791250
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftwp9QyoVAA
Fascinating. Thanks.

>>41851351
>>41855345
>>41855366
3/3 forgot to mention but if you're under any heavy stress, like a negative spiral "it" can actually lie to you and I mean like the kind of stress you can get only if you're in a shakespearian tragedy situation. I must have done this over 200 times, I meditate with this youtube vid almost daily over 3 years and it only lied to me once so it's pretty reliable still.
You can absolutely do this if you have a stress related illness, I have pretty bad ptsd and it works for me, maybe the constant flashbacks helps with visualisation idk. Getting a big red jasper at one of those stinky tattooed dyed hair girl store and crushing it really hard with one hand for 30 seconds is one of the most reliable ways to get out of a spiral or flashback. PTSD is great for artists since you can weaponise suffering and traumatic events into banger art. I've tried the getaway tapes and didn't make it past tape 2, never attempted them again after that, tried LOA shit didnt work past the ladder bit, I am often described as an extremely unlucky person most describe me as "cursed". Yet this specific youtube meditation works for me, nothing else really does. Is there anything else I should try?

Just to clarify I dont think you need a tragic past or ptsd to do this I really think hemi sync works for everyone, I'm the only one of my friends who actually succeeds with it so idk, they probably didn't try hard enough imo.

>>41855486
>Getting a big red jasper at one of those stinky tattooed dyed hair girl store and crushing it really hard with one hand for 30 seconds is one of the most reliable ways to get out of a spiral or flashback.
Forgot to mention red jasper needs to be polished for this to work

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What specific methods have worked for you personally, anons?

>>41855486
>>41855594
>keeps saying “forgot to mention”
You need memory meds for that Alzheimer’s.

>>41853655
(It sucks that you are going through legal trouble.)
Which gateway tapes do you use to manifest things and what focus do you go to?
>edibles
?

>>41854578
Some say you must affirm all day long, but most say the opposite. Maybe it depends on persons. Personally I only had success this way: Keep pretending/affirming, after less than a minute (but it may be longer for you) you feel like sliding, then you feel as if reality has changed and your wish is now true, it doesn't feel like a lie anymore. Keep pretending/affirming for a minute or until you are bored. Then just believe that it is set on your timeline and coming. Avoid thinking about it too much, but if you notice that you don't believe, redo the pretending/affirmation.

>>41854721
Interesting, I wonder if it was just a dream in a dream, or a case of reality shifting. Some people do use lucid dreaming as a method to shit.
You should definitely try again. (and report the result here, please)

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>>41856386
The legal troubles actually led me to anger management classes in lieu of jail, and now I’ve been teaching guitar to a 20 yo kid there. Last week, I was taking requests for old ladies and you can see how happy this made people.

So even being suppressed, reality distortion field is in effect. I also sussed out two demonic counselors, one who told me there were no security guards at this facility, while the other insisted on telling me about Tom Cruises first full-frontal scene (apropos of nothing). So God has provided that.

I started going through the original tapes sequentially on the general thread. Once I got through to Focus 10 and everything up to Wave 4, I jumped around and started to pick some at random. I skip what I feel is non-essential or skills I already have.

I prefer bob’s voice instead of the guy with gay voice in later ones. I usually get the vibrations super hard.

I’ve also joined Gurdjieff groups and did a 10-day Vipassana, and the level of crossover between most methodologies is substantial.

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>>41856386
>edibles
Weed is legal here, so I usually dose 20 - 30 mgs THC. Anything more than that is a crapshoot (or I just end up manifesting women because if the horniness, which is hard to transfer energy to higher planes of consciousness). Doing this in an empty stomach is usually the go-to route.

The side effect is that even if I don’t manifest something in SATS or the tapes, strange things start happening. Just found out about a SWAT standoff three doors down that I just thought was a custody dispute. Nope, demons holding people hostage.

"The Cosmic Joke" is remembering that it's all me. All of it. Everything. It's all me. ME.

>>41791203
How do I go back in time via consciousness?

>>41791203
I've never practiced this stuff but it was kinda freaky how I was the prototype zoomer, I had the meme haircut in 2015, listened to a lot of rap music, was narcissistic and entitled, anti-wagecucking, watched a lot of anime, introverted internet addict, vaped, liked doing other drugs over drinking alcohol, loved big boobies goth girls etc

>>41855486
Thanks for all these info. I'll try this video tonight.
>I've tried the getaway tapes and didn't make it past tape 2, never attempted them again after that
For hemi sync works well for you, you should try the tapes. The first ones are boring because they are about learning, but the exercises get more interesting later on.
Gifted people can achieve remote viewing in the past and stuff.
Link for the tapes, to try before buying:
https://mega.nz/folder/Ns9mhDSC#iKKxSnq5EoG_GxYLeylrSg/folder/o1UE0ZwK

>>41855767
I know you're trolling but memory loss is a symptom of ptsd yeah I have severe amnesia, probably for the best, but I feel like my short term memory is pretty good.
>>41856778
Tried astral projection and it never worked, when I was 16 and smoked my first weed I kinda astral projected out of my body for like 30 seconds then woke back up, never ever experienced anything similar since despite trying too with tapes online methods and such.
Should I do the tapes back to back or take a break in between?

>>41856707
>>41797789

>>41853835
>I find that 5G, Bluetooth/BLE, WiFi, or other pollution is causing unintended and/or targeted physiological symptoms (the rona), as well as blocking some of these manifestation powers.
>schizoslop
and that's how I know is a fake shitty larp

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>>41858373
>larp
Shoo shoo gainz goblin.

Frequencies interfere with projection, just as low frequencies promote different brain waves. Nature meditations often manifest quicker for this reason. In fact, I did acid once in the Hampstead Heath in this gated circle and watched as the moon changed into a static hallucination of a wretched face. Aqualung is real, and this was in vast contrast to experience psychedelics taken in Finsbury Park with tons of electronic interference.

>>41858463
>another limiting beliefs keychain like motheranon

>>41791250
Fucking hell every corner of the internet is botted, someone in those comments manifested 3 seagulls in a parking lot...why the fuck would you two randomly manifest specific birds? If this method even gives you a tenner, share that example.

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>>41859154
>now hold it there just one second, I say I say

You ain’t wrong. Achieving a true believer status is something I’m working on, but frankly it’s the fear of success. For example, I eliminated my depression after Vipassana. The Gurdjieff group showed me the purpose of inclusion with other beings (or manifestations of myself, EIYPO). But to fully give over to complete control of the universe seems to lack the spontaneity and novelty that keeps life interesting.
>muh limiting beliefs

Solipsism could be a sickness. I’ve found that my timing of manifestation follows pic rel. I think when you’re in each phase, a manifestation corresponding to that seems likely.

I managed to summon back an SP and played Words with Friends until I remembered why I ditched her in the first place. This came at a particular low time after I manifested a chick that was facing federal charges for stupid shit. I felt the universe sent me someone cute that I could be racist and send nudes to. It was an answer to my prayers and focus.

Music seems to be a conjuring element. Listening to Aphex Twin or other trance inducing stuff summons up mental states and memories. In this way, the past is manifested - and performing timeline therapy has proven useful.

Reading Knausgård also summoned deep feelings and resonance. I wrote a 70,000 word memoir under its influence and it solved a massive family dilemma, prompted me to lose twenty five pounds (206 to 181lb).

Robert Anton Wilson’s reality tunnels also seem to point to the notion of your outlook forms your perspective. Tony Robbins says the same shit, but they seem to walk the walk.

I think I manifested something but not what I wanted.
A few days ago while in focus 12 I tried to slide into a reality where spiders are no more bigger than ~1.5cm including leg-span, because I hate giant spiders but I don't care about small ones. And I stupidly visualized seeing a small spider on a wall.
Since then, although all spiders are usually sleeping during winter, every day I keep finding small spiders ~1.5cm in my house, in any room... as if I had manifested small spiders, instead of manifesting spiders to be small... '-_- And they are always on a wall, like in my visualization, never on the floor or a furniture or anything.
A rational explanation is that a spider laid eggs and these are its babies spreading around, but they are not all of the same species, and baby spiders usually don't spread in winter anyway.