What is the common view of life? There was a gag organisation in the 70s called CSICON, the Committee for Scientific Investigation Into Claims of the Normal, which offered a prize if someone could find and bring them a totally ordinary or typical object, person or event. I wonder if that's applicable today.People tend to think of "normies", "NPCs" and so on as being materialists or materialistic, but historically this was not the case. If you asked one of these supposed modern "NPCs" how they felt about you contacting your grandmother from beyond the veil, they would say that that's impossible and laughable. Ordinary people before a couple of hundred years ago and also in many Earth cultures today would consider that an honourable and decent thing to do, and wouldn't even question it's feasibility. So, then, what is the real consensus reality? Can someone give me a quick rundown or what "everyone knows"?
>>41795229Its not very specific but a pretty universal one is that gaining more power is always good. This was the case 10,000 years ago and its the case now. Everyone strives to be either smarter/stronger/charismatic/wiser/attractive. Its innate for nearly everyone and if by some freak accident it isnt for a person, life will surely beat this view into themIts sometimes not the end goal as people will often spend their power to achieve what they want but its always a prerequisite for any goal at the very least so all life seeks it
>consensus That's a communist non-concept that requires monolithic accepted top down vertical epistemic power. Nigger that doesn't exist anymore. This isn't the 20th century. No, nearly nobody watches or reads the same media. No, nearly nobody pays attention to what some "celebs", "politicians" or "influencer" say. For a majority they don't exist. So tell me communist how are you going to sell anything as "consensus" when not even shared perception of reality exists - you can't. And the attempt to do it anyway more than likely gets you killed, deserved so.
>>41795250I haven't found anyone in my immediate circle that seeks to increase their power over others, generally they tend to want self-control more than to dominate, and learn from others as to how to do this better. But even then, not everyone is interested in that. There are the despondent and the truly happy, anyone who doesn't have the will to change their own state. Is it possible that what people really want is love?>>41795308Are you trying to imply that there is no such thing as consensus reality? Are you trying to set that up as a universal rule?
>>41795342correct. "Consensus" is a word, a half baked communist concept, that implies same to similar information perception and approximation of agreement among humans. In an environment where that doesn't exist, consensus as a concept cant exist. Its at best a lie and at worst a scam. In the latter sense it was able to be sold as long as there was authoritative perceived epistemic power structures that were trusted by those with information asymmetry, e.g "media" that reached a majority with its narratives, without those epistemic power structures being perceived as authority or trusted, or even known that they exist, trying to sell "consensus" as something given is a straight path for the larping epistemic authority pseuds to be hanged and murdered, rightfully so.>Universaluniversality of words and concepts doesn't exist. Non-universality is the paradoxically the only universal concept>tl;dr or in case you are a cognitive bacteriaI don't perceive the color blue like you do, there is no consensus about what the word "blue" means
>>41795342Better self control is a form of power, power over short term desires to be precise. Its why fat people tend to feel powerless when they fail to keep themselves on a diet. Fair point on the people who dont have a will to change, i didnt consider that. Although im not sure how many of those people will turn down power if offered it for free>do you want more knowledge?No>do you want to be more attractive?No>do you want to be smarter?No>do you want to be stronger?No>do you want more self control?No>do you want more money?No>do you want more popularity?NoIt would take a person who looks alien to me to respond like this
>>41795552>Non-universality is the paradoxically the only universal conceptWhen I entertain this notion, I experience cognitive dissonance. Is there some unifying, integrative principle which can take care of this apparent contradiction which we would force ourselves to live under if we took this claim as true?>>41795748It appears to many people that most social constructs arise as a result of power dynamics. But the experience of power per se isn't a pleasant one. It's a kind of unhealthy joy that arises through the feeling of using and dominating another. What other principle could take its place that performs a similar function but which feels healthy and right, one which we instinctually defend and believe in?
>>41795844I dont think there is anything that can take the place of power but that unhealthy feeling probably comes from directing power to the wrong thing rather than power itself. Power is protection, if you love a person/thing, power can help you protect them and using it for that purpose probably wouldnt give a feeling of disgust. Using emotional intelligence to protect them from their insecurities, using physical power to protect them from threats and you can even make them powerful too if you have the teaching ability to do so. All very useful thingsI think the problem starts when people use power to try to mend their wounded pride. The world hurts us, we feel weak and have a desire to prove to ourselves that we cant be hurt anymore once we attain power. Its very easy to fall into that hole and very hard to get out of that hole
>>41795961spoken like a true vaxxed
>>41795982lmaoooo it's like suddenly people can tell who took that crap or not what an amazing time to be alive
>>41795982Theres microplastics in your balls, you are contaminated too retard
