Why did God put himself through a humiliation ritual?
>>41797975To prove he really felt for us and wasn't just the tyrannical asshole he is portrayed as by heretics like the Gnostics. He put himself into flesh so he could suffer like a human, feel like a human, and this act ultimately redeemed us and set us free.
>>41797975God is a retarded schitzo who sodomizes me every second and forces me to exist in this hideous body for his own sick enjoyment
>>41798045Chill out, Chubby Checker. Eat healthy. Get more exercise. Stop posting here.
>>41798274?
>>41797975Honestly, it's kind of the opposite, he let himself get crucified just so that he could resurrect and then ascend.If that's not a supreme mogging I don't know what is
>>41797975So you wouldn’t have to.
>>41797975Because God is real and does things according to the way he wants to.
>>41797975He had to. In the old covenant you had to pay with blood for sins. God doesnt break the rules he himself set up. So in order to save ALL of humanity he became flesh in Jesus to pay with his holy blood for all us sinners, to save us. Thats why the old baptists sing about "the blood" and talk about "saved by the blood" so much. All we have to do now, thanks to his sacrifice, is believe in him and accept his payment for us. We are saved by grace through faith in him. His blood washes our sins away. He didnt lose, or was humiliated, he needed to shed his blood and knew this was what needed to happen.
>>41798487Sounds very vampiric
>>41798498Not really. If anything its reverse vampirism. Vampires take blood to gain personal power. Jesus shed his own to our benefit.
>>41798514>sheds bloodSo is he like a bloodcow? Like calling all vampires to Christ he is mooing and blooding from his udders *penis* like get it while it’s fresh! U can even mix his mik *cum* in it to!!!!
>>41798524I could give you a real answer that explains and goes deeper, because the blood is an interesting mystery. But thats not what you want. You just want to trigger christians and get a reaction. In a laughable immature way i might add.
>>41798535Sounds like you don’t do chaos magic
>>41797975Because He loves us.>>41798498blood is the currency of life. Every culture understands this and developed some animal or human sacrifice to their deities
>>41798538Not anymore. Back in the day i couldnt get it to work because i never truly believed in the power of blood. Today i dare not touch it..
>>41798487what happened to the earth when jesus’ blood was shed upon it?
>>41797975He didn't.https://www.abbaunveiled.com/resourceshttps://www.youtube.com/@ElElyonSecretshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1fJk4Fgd1UkV3jma62ns691NgExCb2b8FqbPYDb_s0Jw/edit?tab=t.0
>>41798560That’s why u can’t into vampires
>>41798498This is how our occult worshipping politicians operate. Only for them, they work for Satan, so they can't accept Christ's blood offer and must resort to human sacrifices and cannibalism in order to shed for human sin.I think this is why Jesus blood sacrifice is a big deal. Every single secret society member keeps their bloodline as pure as they can be to avoid soul degredation in the next life (I think? The Rothchild AMA thread here a couple of days ago placed a big role on bloodlines). With Christ, you don't need to do that. You accept him and you're basically apart of his bloodline spiritually and thus are effectively sinless enough to reunite with god..
>>41797975I have no idea, but I also wonder what God's asexuality is all about.He gave Adam a mate. Does he not need one, or does he just enjoy watching us fuck like a creepy cuck?
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>>41797975He didn't. Jesus was just executed, putting an end to a reformer's movement.
>>41797993Don't gnostics believe that there are two creators? One being God, and the other Yaweh (Yaldabaoth)? Both creation accounts in Genesis use two seperate names for the creator (being God and Yaweh). Is it really heracy to ponder over whether or not the Bible is misinterpreted by most everyone who reads it?
>>41797975The idea of group souls, bloodlines and blood being the water of life. Is an interesting subject but when it comes to the cult of Yaweh the ritual cannibalism and blood sacrifice I think its a good idea to consider the subject from a wider angle than just what the bible is supposed to mind control you into believing. Blood is indeed a powerful mystery but when it coles to male genital mutilation, genocide, blood sacrifice and ritual god-cannibalism it has a distinctly negative and nasty vibe.
>>41798763I'm glad he died horribly, his followers are batshit insane and follow me everywhere.
>>41798764Been working my way through the OT recently and this is pretty clearly how it reads. There's a creator (God) and then there's basically a keeper of the Earth (the LORD). One is the architect/builder and the other is the property manager/landlord. Yahweh, which I'm pretty sure Solomon or one of the other kings calls him when they build his shrine, literally translates to LORD in the footer text.The LORD doesn't do a great job and through his rule everything eventually turns into kind of a shit show so God has to enter the world. The only way to do it is to be born as a human so he does it and then uses the LORDs rules/covenant to absolve everyone of their sins.That's my take on it at least. Could be wrong but it all tracks.
>>41798562We got the new covenant and entered the age of grace. Now no other blood offerings or cutting of foreskin or any of that is needed anymore. Not even works like keeping the ten commandments. You just have to believe, accept the gift and repent.
>>41798524i love you
>>41797975To steal from death requires the destruction of something beautiful.
>>41798524Maybe. Magic isn't real according to the Catholic Church but you can dig up the body of a 'heretic' and condemn him to Hell and somehow that makes his soul go there.
>>41797975Clearly the story is not like we have been told. If you read the bible you will realize, hopefully, that it has contradictions. One "prophet" will say x, but then another prophet can contradict this one and say y. I mean, the story doesn't make any sense when you really stop to think about it. Some anons have done memes about this already. God has to kill Himself in order to appeal Himself in order to save us from Himself? Jesus was twisted by the church. Paul started spreading that Jesus was God in flesh form. And Jesus never shows up. He is supposed to be alive in Heaven looking after Creation, but Jesus doesn't do shit. Jesus said people after him would do great signs tham him did, but fast foward today and we don't see shit! No miracles. Zero! What wee see is the same thing that existed in the time of Jesus. Spiritual corruption. It's the same old system still operating under a new look, this look being christianity. The only thing we see is evil people using God to seize power. Come on, man. Grow up. Face reality. Jesus as we have been told is a lie. They killed him just like they kill anyone who are opose them or speak out against them. The fact that Jesus allowed Jesus to die is sad. Maybe that is it. Jesus told the people about the truth and got killed. This is what we should copy in this sense. We also must tell the truth even if we die because of it so this is why I dare to say this because I don't care if I live or die. The truth must be stated. God is evil.
>>41798937I'm going to have this tattooed on my nutsack.
Alcoholic fantasies.Very organic, proportional to snow.Enjoy.
>>41798487He did it to save the animals from God's wrath. Humans then, and now, are mostly evil, and not worth saving. I hope God works out a way to smite the humans without harming nature.
It's interesting to read Tertullian's argument for why Marcion's God was defective.For some reason he seems to say that the only point of the command to love enemies and strangers is so that you can love your neighbours better, where the neighbours are the only group to whom you truly owe benevolence. It's like you're obligated to make sure that the cup of your benevolence toward your neighbours is full, so you should fill until it spills over to enemies and strangers as well just to be safe. (In practice I'm not sure how much sense that makes. E.g. If I have a spare loaf of bread, surely I'd benefit my neighbour more effectively by giving him the entire loaf than by sharing it with an enemy and a stranger as well.)Taking for granted this principle, Tertullian reasons that, since Marcion's Alien God doesn't owe humanity anything to begin with, it would actually be outright *wrong* for him to go out of his way to help us. The benevolent Alien should instead mind his own business and stay out of the demiurge's relationship with his slaves.
>>41799433https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/03121.htm"By what rule, however, can an unjust benevolence, displayed on behalf of a stranger, to whom not even an honest one is legitimately due, be defended as a rational one? For what is more unrighteous, more unjust, more dishonest, than so to benefit an alien slave as to take him away from his master, claim him as the property of another, and suborn him against his master's life; and all this, to make the matter more iniquitous still while he is yet living in his master's house and on his master's garner, and still trembling beneath his stripes? Such a deliverer, I had almost said kidnapper, would even meet with condemnation in the world."
>>41798983koine greek has no letter for letter translation to english. Your delusional stories remember are written in koine greek and written by other men and women. There is nothing in these stories that is the word of god or to be considered the son of god. They are books created as an illusion of symbolism. The train continues to move and all its passengers hold on to its rails not realizing that getting off is better idea. That’s the best part though suffering continues.
>>41799435You can't just force a cruel master to free any of their slaves who would prefer to leave and then adopt them into your own family! How improper!
>>41797993Amazing how it all really comes together
>>41798712Jesus *is* his mate
>>41798696Link to the ama pls?
>>41798487>All we have to do now, thanks to his sacrifice, is believe in him and accept his payment for us.That's a false heresy. Jesus taught that you must be a part of his Mystical Body and do God's will in order to be saved. In other words you must be validly baptized, must be holy and must be without mortal sin. Just saying "I accept Jesus" doesn't save you.>"Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven."Matthew 7:21And Christ's (bloody) sacrifice on the cross doesn't automatically merit all of mankind salvation. Only those in his Mystical Body are saved. Moreover, his sacrifice must continuously be made present again so the merits of grace can be applied across time and received by individuals. The Eucharist is the (unbloody) sacrifice that does exactly this. If you are not part of Christ's Mystical Body (baptized and in a state of Grace) and do not receive the Eucharist, you are not saved.>He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him. As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father; so he that eateth me, the same also shall live by me.John 6:54-57
>>41799433>>41799435>>41799460For context, I came across that while trying to figure out Marcion's atonement theory. I still haven't found a definitive explanation of it, but my best guess about the way it works is that the good Alien tricked the demiurge into killing him unjustly so that the demiurge would owe him compensation, and the good Alien "spends" that compensation on redeeming any creatures of the demiurge who accept the offer to be freed. The topic is confused because Marcion was accused of Docetism, so it would seem like his Christ can't actually have been crucified. But it makes more sense for that accusation to have been false: https://brill.com/view/journals/vc/71/1/article-p1_1.xml
Proof that the Bible is the word of God:https://truthischrist.com/seven/fcbaptist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Bible-proof.pdf1 Cor. 15:3-4: “For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntc1 John 5:7: “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”Rom. 3:23: “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”Jesus Christ is God who has come in the flesh from heaven. He died as a sinless sacrifice for the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sins. He was buried, then resurrected and ascended to heaven, and will return soon to judge the world. You can't be justified to God your own way, so will you choose His righteousness instead? (Rom. 10:3)Salvation is by grace through faith (Eph. 2:8-9) in the one, final, effectual sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ (Heb. 10:8-12) dying in your place as a substitutionary offering for sin (Rom. 5:1-10). His blood atonement made for you is finished, so if you have received the Lord Jesus by faith (John 1:12) in your heart, you're forgiven of all your sins and are saved, once for all; finally and forever! The gift of salvation can't be earned, it is a gift. Rom. 10:9: “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.” Confess The Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in prayer, that you trust in Him, not your own deeds, He atoned for your sins on the cross.Eph. 2:8-9: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” After you're saved, you are a child of God and nothing will separate you from His love. (Romans 8:38-39)
>>41799510As to what forces the demiurge to pay out an arbitrary amount, my guess is that it would be a technicality in the demiurge's own law that the alien takes advantage of somehow.
>>41799625https://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/scanned/yeznik_refutation.htm"And indeed, after the Son was crucified, he descended into Hell and freed the captive souls and took them to heaven with His Father, the God of Love. Thereupon, the Lord of Creation grew angry and darkened the skies and dressed the world in black."The second time Jesus descended in the form of God, he opened a case against the Lord of Creation for having put him to death. When the Lord of Creation saw the Godliness of Jesus, he knew that there was a God higher than himself. Jesus leveled his charges against the Lord of Creation and demanded that the Laws which the Lord of Creation had written be the judge in their case.""When he placed the Laws between them, Jesus asked, "Did you not write, 'And who ever kills, shall die and who ever spills the blood of the righteous, his blood shall be spilled.'?" After the Lord of Creation acknowledged that he had written them, Jesus demanded that he surrender himself to be punished by death. Then Jesus added, "I have been more just than you to your creations," and he began to list the kindnesses he had done them. Seeing that he had been condemned by his own laws for killing Jesus, the Lord of Creation pleaded that he had killed Jesus unknowingly and offered in retribution to give Jesus all those who believe in him to take where he pleased. After Jesus left the Lord of Creation, he appeared to Paul. He revealed to his apostle the compensation, and thereafter, Paul preached that Jesus "redeemed us for a price." This, then, is the basis of Marcion's doctrine as we have come to know it."
>>41797993>he put himself into flesh so he could suffer like a human, feel like a humanI know it sounds insipid but not all suffering is the same. Some people who have suffered greatly, suffered for many many years. Some people are already past Jesus' age, and will probably have another good 40 years of suffering ahead. Some people with debilitating afflictions or torment or accidents will probably look at a good 6 months, 1 year, 2 years, 5 years of pure suffering.Some people suffer from chronic loneliness. Have nobody to rely in or cherish them or love them or help them. Not even 1 person who ask for them, they will die and their corpse will rot in their small apartment for months.Some people will suffer beatings, torture and death for days, weeks. Maybe even years of imprisonment and torture in some south american prison.Some don't even have a mother to cry for them when they die.Some will starve to actual death.I feel like most suffering and pain can be surpassed if you have people you can rely on or to comfort you. Some people don't have that, they'll suffer and cry and be in anguish alone for years and die and nobody will know or mention or remember them. They won't be loved or revered or respected or even tolerated. They'll just be killed and discarded like trash.
>>41797975He is not God. He is not dead.He will come back.
>>41799442Gos is evil. Fact. Look to nature and see how animals prey on each other and not only that, but even rape each other. Don't get distracted by the illusion of beauty. Even a retard kid can paint a woe spiring landscape so just because God could create a shape like pentagram and put some things on the edges and form a flower, it also may smell good, but this is a trappy! It must smell good in order to atract the insect witch like pólen, polinization. The plant foesn't smell good because it smells good. It smells good in order to atract. It's an illusion! God is evil. God is torturing us, little by little, day after day, making us work, fucking with us. God fucks with us. Understand this. God puts obstacles in our way because God is retard. He thinks He must teach us and suffering is the way to teach us. He is a sicko. God is evil. There's no way around it. People can coope all they want talking about love this and love that. This is the true delusion. You are projecting your delusions into me, man. Fuck you. Suffering will keep on for eternity. It's a never ending attack. Everything is a lie and that's a fact. Why would God be any different? SO the whole world is croocked, but not the creator of the world itself? Aha Give me a break.
>>41800539People are evil. They deserve to be tortured until they either cannot do other than act right, or they all die. Fuck all of them. Every interaction I have makes me hate them just a little bit more. Which causes me to want to maim and harm them more. Loss is all they understand. So I give only to take away. Because fuck you, stupid filthy animal.
"Jesus" represents a profession.The profession that of a shepherd specifically.He is the same as Dumuzid.Dumuzid was taken by ghouls.Ghouls are human host bodies for a parasitic worm.The ghouls turned Dumuzid into a ghoul and he became a shepherd of humans and got them involved in satanic practices even human trafficking and drug use.Judas turning Jesus the "serpent"cult leader into the authorities is spilling the beans on the early Christians. The image of "Jesus" on the cross and it's message is a meme against the underworld forces. So is eating the wafer and wine That's is mock cannibalism and blood drinking.It's also a reference to Dionysus/Bacchus.Anyway.It's pretty interesting to say the least. If you study esoterica/occult and Christianity you'd figure this out.Thers much more but I gotta go with the flow.Parasites on suicide watch.
>>41797975CristcuckcsKys
>>41797975martyrdom =/= humiliation ritualA humiliation ritual would be Mohammed exalting the three goddesses as Allah's daughters and worshipping the Quraysh gods for five years after he previously stated that associating someone with Allah is shirk, before moving to Medinah and going back to pure monotheism.
