do you still believe in reincarnation even in a time of world population growth?
No i believe in rebirth.
You still believe 'official' numbers? Figures. Nigger
>youre poor and suffer cause you were mean in your previous lifeRich people laugh as they condescendingly tell you this.
>>41803456I've always had this problem with the idea of reincarnation. There's life across the cosmos, and if it's similar to earth, then it goes through boom and bust cycles too. Are there just long stretches where souls don't reincarnate? What about the times during booms? The whole thing seems convoluted to me.
>>41803456This is assuming humans are the only entities with souls and that souls actually exist in time.
>>41803483if souls don't exist in time how can you experience time even though you're a soul in a body?
>>41803456Yes, where do you think all the declining populations of bugs and animals are going
>>41803473maybe there's a finite amount of soul divided up between all of existence and that's why you have npc-types now, soul is just stretched too thin
>>41803456the universe its infinite so their expressions too
theres less animals and micro organisms, it evens out, and was always meant to grow
>>41803473How can one bring up boom and bust across the cosmos and not assume that the migration of souls is their cause?
>>41803456First, population numbers are a scam for gibs. Real number is probably closer to 4-5 billion. Second, I'm not certain every human has a soul. Your pic is quite ironic. Did you know niggers don't dream?
>>41803610I assume nothing in this regard. I simply fail to understand how/why that would be the case. I'm open to whatever potential explanation.
>>41803456Former atheist here. The idea of heaven could only be what they call the aether. We are electrical beings with brain synapses sending signals to our muscles etc. and the universe is made up of electrical stars. This afterlife may or may not allow reincarnation, I don't know. I don't even know if we can manage to hold onto our former selves in such an environment. But suppose we do have that ability.What planet would we end up coming back into? Would be be a bunny like thing or a plant clear on the other side of the galaxy?Your argument is silly.
>>41803473Journey of Souls by Dr. Michael Newton will help you with a lot of these questions. It's rare, but you can split your soul and reincarnate in two different bodies at the same time. There's physical worlds and there's mental worlds. Earth is both which is why it's such a bitch to be here. Almost literally it's trial by fire. This is legendary mode with all skulls turned on. I don't actually think that you reincarnate linearly. As in, I don't think it's a neat progression from start at the dawn of man to now and the only possible time to reincarnate being between those two points. I think that if you need to reincarnate in 5056 AD because that's the optimal path for your progression then that's where you go.
>>41803456Forced Reincarnation is a nightmare hellscape ontology. No guru smiling on YouTube will ever convince me that ' we're all God wearing billions of faces at once! :) ' is cute or quirky or beautiful.I'm Monistic Solipsist.
>>41803469That's just another way for them to dump their karma.
>>41803685i'm probably older then you which you can mark as a sign, the universe would exist without you. not saying its not better with you in it.
>>41803689I'll show you a karma dump>unzips pantsThis is my karma for eating pizza.
>>41803700I'm not my body or my brain. I was not born.
>>41803703shit. ummm BLUE EYES WHITE DRAGON!
>>41803707>heheAs i predicted kaibaI ACTIVATE TRAP HOLE
>>41803456What if what we call souls aren't countable discrete objects the way individual organisms that we frame as possessing a soul are?
>>41803456Population growth is tied to how many people are logging in.The millennium dawn update sucks though, so the player base is dropping and they have to flood the server with NPCs all over the regions and races no one wants to play
>>41803713actually, the only way consciousness can exist is if it is infinite.And the only way that multiple conscious beings can exist, is if we are separate eternal gods.It is the only answer to "Why am I me rather than you?"not even 'god wearing many masks at once' answers it.
>>41803456you have a very limited understanding of how reincarnation works
>>41803714>races no one wants to playYou only reincarnated into the same race you've always reincarnated into. However, as stated before, diggers don't dream. Based on that my assumption is that they don't have souls. I'm not sure about mutted people though.
>>41803664Thanks, I'll give his work a read.> I think that if you need to reincarnate in 5056 AD that's been my inclination as the only possible workaround for these questions. Time itself is most likely illusory at best, and I highly suspect the linear experience we have itself is a way for us to organise the world around us (explains precognition, etc)
>>41803456reincarnation is realYou are just mistaken in thinking you need a discrete soul for it. Consciousness has many levels to it as we can clearly see via dreams, drugs, comas, animals, etc. Objectively you are a part of the universe. You are a brain in a biological vat that commits to a behavior after many physical and chemical factors. The consciousness in each organism arises from the same source in this closed system of a universe, and, when you die, you will play another as the universe still runs and experiences itself. Belonging to a part of the consciousness makes you unable to even feel or sense true death. How can one even experience not existing without sensory organs?Many like to romanticize it this as we are all a part of God when it is rather a neutral state of being with reincarnation likely being RNG on the next experience for whatever first takes the bandwidth freed up by your limited consciousness’s conclusion
>>41803718>>41803785I need a way to force a loop, only as far back as 8 months, can somebody, anybody PLEASE provide me a method.
>>41804145Then why am I experiencing this part rather than another part?Also, this illusion cannot be neutral.When something can be made without any limitation, an opinion on what has been made is voiced.
>>41804201I don't know how to do this, and tbf anybody who does will hoard that information forever.
>>41803456An oversoul can have multiple incarnations at the same time.
>>41804370Stfu retard
>>41804326you experience this specific part due to chanceWhy does an electron move a certain path in its orbital out of all the combinations? This then affects how it interacts with other molecules as more of these choices are made. You came to from millions of humans that chose each other specifically due to this underlying chemistry happening independently in a lot of places. These possibilities collapsed into one reality now observed
>>41803456That’s not how reincarnation works in most frameworks. What reincarnates isn’t the ego or soul, it’s the underlying consciousness expressing itself again in a new form. The concept of spirit/consciousness is collective and not limited in number, it’s like a hand with and infinite amount of fingers, each digging into a different vessel.This is the case in hindu/vedanta, buddhist, neoplatonist and even mystical christianity currents.
>>41803456>world population increasing at a time when we're killing all the bugs with chemicals
>>41803456>>41803473Two words explain away your faux-materialist paradox: Body Thetans. A tiny tiny fraction of beings here are actually incarnate. The entire sublunary is full of souls.
>>41803473Reincarnation makes sense when considering the possibility that there is an infinite number of souls, the universe is infinite, all things possess various measures of Soul, and when a thing changes, it's Soul either transfers completely to another body (rock, animal, plant, molecule, etc), or it changes in part.
>>41804856>this makes sense if you consider a number of these equally ridiculous possibilities Meds.
>>41804364Thank you, I will try everything available to me, even if I die as a result
>>41803456yes most people are reincarnated fromanimals, clearly.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RBYsQE4Pxb4
>>41804873understandable. In the event it's possible, and you achieve it, don't be a prick as most people are.
>>41803456I'm not saying I believe in it, but soul recycling and the creation of new souls are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
>>41803456Reincarnation and afterlives are not real. The body is a vessel for consciousness and once the body is gone so is the consciousness associated with it, FOREVER. Nobody will judge you and you aren't going anywhere after, you simply cease to exist. They can create unlimited humans on the other hand so life will never stop existing here on earth. The creation is eternal and the creator can experience himself eternally, you are not on the other hand.
>AAAAA THERE ARE ONLY A LIMITED NUMBER OF SOULS WHAT DO WE DO>THE SCIENTISTS DIDN'T SAY WE COULD MAKE MORE SOULSkekerino what a midwit take
>>41803486the soul is the hardware and your physical body is the software it's running
yes i believ in reincartion for idoits who worship the demiurge and not jesus christ 100%
fewer than 10% of all humans that have ever been alive are alive now.
>>41803456I do not believe in it but its vastly easier to explain than my actual beliefs and is similar enough for most intents and purposes so i pretend i do. Reincarnation just has far too many unclear areas for my liking. How are new souls born? What happens to the soul when the two hemispheres of the brain are split? What would happen to a soul if two different brains are merged? What mechanism transfers a soul to a new body? What is the structure necessary to contain a soul? Open individualism is far simpler
>>41803483>>41803486>>41805052https://benthams.substack.com/p/you-are-a-soul>For a while, I was a hard-line Parfitian. I agreed with Parfit about most things—moral realism, for a short time even the triple theory (though this was because I was confused about what rule utilitarianism was—in my defense, I was in 11th grade), and reductionism about personal identity. But over time, I feel myself slowly departing from the Parfit party line (try saying that three times fast!) and abandoning many of Parfit’s beliefs. Despite Parfit’s obvious brilliance, the arc of history so far has largely bent away from him. Here I’ll describe the considerations that move me away from reductionism about personal identity and towards the soul theory. >It’s important to begin by defining souls. A soul is a non-physical entity which makes one the same person over time. The reason I’m the same person as my four-year-old self is that we share one soul. Another way to think of it is that the soul is what determines who has the experience. There’s both the contents of what one experiences and the soul that determines that they are the ones having the experience. Someone else could have an identical experience to me and could have been born instead of me but they’d be a different person—that’s because their soul is different.
>>41804936>so is the consciousness associated with it, FOREVER.If the nothingness before you were born ended before, why couldn't it end again?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w13yLq16QiM
>>41805175you must Know, as a parent. you Will never know, as a person.
>>41803456This is easily explained by everyone else besides me being an NPC.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egocentric_presentism>>41803579>>41803714These
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Everyone itt is retarded (not surprising in the least). The simple and obvious explanation is that you don't reincarnate the second after your previous death, you may be reborn at any time in the future or even in the past
>>41803456That's where hylics come from.
>Xhe thinks there is a "number" of soulslmao ecks dee
>>41803456I don't see how that relates in any way
>>41803456Do you not see the abundance of soulless vessels waiting for a great spirit like mine to take the bait to incarnate in?I am being unjustly punished by an evil god while you hylics get to enjoy every material pleasure.I will be taking everything soon.
