>no inner monologue>TRANSLATION: no internal stream of consciousness
That's a strange assumption to jump to. A sizeable portion of the population experience no internal monologue, and yet their performance in the workforce and otherwise is equivalent. That points to the inner monologue being very optional when it comes to producing performance.
>>41812675>That's a strange assumption to jump to.>*assumes performance in the workforce is a substantial metric*
One way to tell if someone is an NPC with no inner monologue is to ask them why they exist as themselves and not as someone else. If they say the question is meaningless. they are an NPC. Since NPCs don't have selves in a metaphysical sense, there is no "I" in their brains to directly observe things/experience qualia.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertiginous_question
Ways it might be possible to scientifically test if someone has an inner monologue or is an NPC:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gvwhQMKvro
>>41812675>the most important aspect of a human is their performance in the workplacegrim unless you think all life is just one big workplace of some sort
>>41812669I'm curious if inner monologue is just one of the many mechanisms of self-awareness instead of it just being "oh you're an NPC"One of my friends said he doesn't have an inner voice but he thinks in "concepts"
>>41812711An inner monologue doesn't need to be a voice necessarily, but you need to be able to communicate with yourself internally. If you cannot self-reference, what are you even?
>>41812669Right. So how does someone go about their day? I have inner thoughts all day long that basically organize my day and what my evening and night will be. At least in planning. In my head. How does one fake themselves as an NPC.
>>41812711>>41812725You two are exactly what an inner monologue is.
>>41812748>Right. So how does someone go about their day?Much as it is when driving and you don't recall the last 5 miles, NPCs go about their day on autopilot, never having that metaphorical moment where their attention rises to the surface and they realize they're on the road. Conscious individuals can be on autopilot too for certain bouts of time but they can take control of the wheel, so to speak.>How does one fake themselves as an NPC.Just follow the crowd. Mask. Blend in.
>>41812757That's very funny. If we were thoughts inside one head, it would be true.
Take this into consideration. A buddhist would say meditate, a christian would say idle hands are the work of the devil. Who is right if both are wrong? Because if everyone meditates no hands are lifted. If everyone is non idle no one can listen. And the message is never heard.
they exist to trick you into participating and engaging with this fake shit loosh simulation. they don't have souls and hate those that do (neurodivergents)reminder2/3 of humanity have no inner speech2/3 of humanity cannot defy a perceived authority2/3 of humanity does not experience NDE (just see nothingness)
>>41812763>>41812768You make it seem easy. Just define human nature in different scenarios. Your driving scenario is fun to me. Because it makes me think of truck drivers. And yeah i'll leave it at that. If you really want to know about NPC's look at who you are. You will find them. When you realize they dont act like you would.
>>41812772Why do you conflate meditation with idle hands when it is the basis for psychic abilities (assuming you have a Divine Spark)?>>41812774NPCs seem to not experience the Mandela effect either since they get updated to the new script automatically so the world, to them, has always been the way it is. They also seem to score "S" for "Sensing" on MBTI tests which is a five-senses-oriented designation.
>>41812774you described your race
>>41812787>If you really want to know about NPC's look at who you are. You will find them. When you realize they dont act like you would.I don't consider myself to be a yardstick, but I am a reference point.
>>41812792I think you need dunk in the tank yourself. Maybe you are right. But maybe there is a different angle. Dont reset just wake up to a new day.
>>41812801Redaction is admission of self proclamation.
Low-IQ shit. Fascistic dehumanising of others, solely to make yourselves feel superior. You are not. Also for example I have an internal monologue that never shuts up yet I have no minds eye, I know those with both or those with a minds eye but no internal monologue.Different brains can & will develop differently, depending on all the cumulative interactions with their local environment. In fact every brain is unique in that every person has completely different experiences so any material structures and patterns imprinted on it, by virtue of things only existing in the locations and time periods they are possible.
>>41812669Right wingers are the npc's. No morals no empathy and completely brainwashed. Easy to control and will keep licking the boot
>>41812669That interpretation comes mostly from NPCs. For the hylic, logic and language are two sides of the same coin. So they think without language there can be no thought. Extremely NPC.
>>41813006>I have no minds eye, I know those with both or those with a minds eye but no internal monologueThat makes zero sense. A minds eye is not some inherent property. Its a construct you make. People aren't 'born' with it they make it and control it. Its a part of 3d problem solving and isn't something that's inherently spiritual either. >I have an internal monologue that never shuts upIts you though, its you speaking inwards. It doesn't "talk" by itself its you thinking. If its independent from your train of thoughts then its not an inner monologue, because its not you monologuing at all.
>>41813006>>41813148This hair splitting nonsense is what causes these miscommunications to begin with.Everyone has a minds eye. Everyone has an inner monologue. These things just take different forms within different people. You might be a more logical person who relies less on visuals to make choices, but that doesn’t mean you don’t have a minds eye. If you can imagine something you have a minds eye. The eye of the mind sees more than mere images and the inner monologue speaks in more than mere words.
>>41813138>So they think without language there can be no thought.I never said in OP that this inner monologue has to be narrating 24/7. It is possible to understand implicitly and instinctually and intuitively, but non-hylic individuals can invoke an inner monologue of some kind, whether it is a verbal monologue, visual monologue, or some other kind.>>41813151>Everyone has a minds eye. Everyone has an inner monologue.Not that anon, but you are incorrect. If this were the case, everyone would understand speech bubbles for what they literally are and not as being some figurative or dramatizing device.
>>41813160>speech bubblesEveryone who believes in this nonsense has some random test they think they can do to determine who is real or not. Perception of speech bubbles has nothing to do with whether or not a person has these qualities.
>>41813171>Perception of speech bubbles has nothing to do with whether or not a person has these qualities.I disagree. If you don't have an inner monologue, the apparent literality of thought bubbles would never be apparent to you.
>>41813185Why would that be? The functionality of speech and thought bubbles is something you need to learn. Babies don’t inherently understand cartoonist’s techniques. So in this scheme how do you distinguish between a hylic and someone who just isn’t familiar with comics?
>no inner monologueIf you can think only as fast as how fast your inner monologue is, sad news for you you are a retard.
>>41813212>sad news for you you are a retard.Omg, retard by a laaaaarge fucking margin. "I should open the door" hur hurrrOMG
>>41813213>GOES AND OPENS THE DOOR HAHAHAHAHAHHAOmg I can't believe how edgy retards copes with their lack of IQ with calling other people NPC and shit.
>>41812669Ever feel like you have too much inner monolog? Like even when people are talking to me im in a daydream state of conversation with myself.
I hate them. I started a new job recently and I can tell almost everyone is a hylic.
>"I need to pee">Goes to peeIt gets funnier and funnierI should stop. I had my fun.
Progressing
>>41812696https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g8WAoTm4jxc&pp=ygUnYWNlIHZlbnR1cmEgcGV0IGRldGVjdGl2ZSBpZiBpIHdlcmUgeW91
>>41813196>Why would that be?>So in this scheme how do you distinguish between a hylic and someone who just isn’t familiar with comics?If you don't talk in your head because you lack an inner monologue, you would think that the words in thought bubbles act as a figurative device reflecting an implicit thought instead of a literal stream of words in one's head.>The functionality of speech and thought bubbles is something you need to learn.The underlying thing they represent, an inner monologue, is not something you need to learn though.
Shit makes no sense. My conscience is mine My lived experience is mine aloneI’m not you and you’re not me, I don’t see through your eyes, hear with you ears , think with your brain or poop with your butt. How tf am I supposed to?
>>41812669>what is ruminationlmfao i hate when you zoomers talk about things you don't understand to try to fit in. to literally progress your stream of consciousness you have to continually be present without thought, retard. your inner monologue is only for when necessary to think about something or when you gain a new insight during presence training. you stupid fucking dickhead. inner monologue is literal suffering otherwise if you let it just run and run and run like you zoomers have it do
>>41813227No. I'm not a chatterbox internally, but I can invoke the voice when I want. Sometimes I do automatically without conscious prompting.>>41813229Grim.>>41813230This but unironically.
>>41812707John Fetterman debunks that quite nicely, tardo.
Also that pic from OP is dumb, the computers cpu does the “thinking” not the display. As they both have CPUs I’d assume both computers have an inner monologue, so yeah you’re dumb OP.
>>41813244I’ve seen thought bubbles represent both concepts. Sometimes an implicit thought and sometimes a literal stream of words. Depending on the authors intent. This just seems like a difference of opinion.
>>41813258But nobody's looking at the thinking.
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>that the words in thought bubbles act asa figurative device reflecting an implicit thought instead of a literal stream of words in one's head.I like this, so often I struggle to articulate clearly my perspective on things that I’ve felt language is a primitive form of communication, if I could mind meld I feel that would effectively convey my “thoughts” and lived experience. Even now I’m struggling to articulate this thought properly due to being a dumb peasant with a short vocabulary.
>>41812669I like the analogy of the guy sitting in the chair watching. I think one the physical and flesh level we're all the same. Animals, humans, bugs, all NPCs. So like if you astral project, and tou go out of body, and it's laying there breathing, sleeping, all on it's own. Like if it were to wake up and start moving around, it would be an noc version of you. And a lot of what your body does "subconsciously" is not and can't be controlled by you. NPCs are just completely controlled by that "subconscious". And the higher self attaches itself to a body and is along for the ride, theu don't have that higher self.Basically you're possessing your body.That's the ideas I've been toying around with. Is it making sense? Also does anyone know if NPCs can dream or lucid dream? That would be an interesting thing to find out.
>>41812669Thinking that consciousness is measured verbally is actually a bigger sign of NPC status.
>>41812669My dog was not an NPC or hylic. She certainly had a soul and channeled her natural intelligence in the most amazing ways.
