I've become a complete gooner in my 30s, far worse than at any previous point in my life. Basically, I've just completely given up on ever getting another gf or even getting a halfway decent job, so I spend all my extra cash (about 300 or 400 per month) on stimulant drugs and I go on goon sessions for my entire weekend. I know this is bad for my frontal lobe and my brain health, but like I said, I've given up and don't really care. I was never able to use my college degree to get a job where my intellect was ever a factor in my work, so I don't my brain, so why bother? Anyway, I'm actually planning to go sober for a few months because I'm tired of the sleepless nights, but I wonder if there are any spiritual consequences to this behavior. On the one hand, I feel like I'm being some kind of luciferian Chad and doing what thou wilt so to speak. But on the other hand, I know it has negative effects on my daily life. I just wonder how this will end. I feel like I'm descending into a metaphorical hell, but I'm hoping it helps ground me and I can reorient and take on anything in the future.
Not spiritual but doing what you are doing is exactly what got me gangstalked/electronically harassed. Something tells me that by you even asking this kind of question that you are already experiencing some weird things.Don't fall for the voices. They'll be directional in nature and be framed in such a way to sound like your neighbor through a shared wall or something similar. This glownigger tech is designed to get you to lash out at whatever is being framed so that you appear crazy and get 302'd. Remain non-reactive. Understand when this shit starts that you're going to be under constant subconscious manipulation by this shit in order to goad you into believing whatever bullshit it's trying to sell. Remember it's a glownigger brain interface and not Casper and claiming otherwise is embarrassing cope.
I dont know but if I dont masturbate for 20 or so days I have a lot of energy and focus. If I masturbate everyday I'm happy to just scroll and eat.
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>>41828157>Spiritual Consequences of Gooning?none, because im not from india and i dont believe in this brown people dogshit.
>>41828157Gooning is one of the worst things a man can do. Go to the Semen Retention General to see all the specifics, it's a lot to list.What you should do is come to the Lord Jesus Christ, he WILL free you from this, although it will be difficult. But it will happen if you truly trust in him. You might not want to hear this but it's important I tell you. Good luck OP.
>>41828157Spiritual consequences?Your ancestors can see you goon.And they can see what you goon to.You're getting older, so the spell pussy cast on you is gone.You have escaped.Everyone else is trapped with kids and marriage and a jock and if they hate that job they can't do anything about it because it would put the wife and kids kn the street.But you.You are sovereign.You are king.You might try quitting you job.If they treat you like shit, or you hate it, you know it's a major source of negativity.I quit mine.My j.o.b. was a huge source of negativity This was hardly a month ago.The first two weeks I was so happy.I was working on my own projects I was too burned out to do. Tbey turned out well. Which made me more happy.I spent time self reflecting, had a breakthrough.And on and o and on so many good things.I, don't have a paycheck.....but I can always get a new "job".Point is, the "happiness" has settled, but working on my projects has not, and enjoying the outcome of my competence.All to sayI have wanted to goon, like, twice.In a month.I'm bored as shit on /x/ right now.I know I could force a walk.But it's not even intereating.I don't want the dopamine hit like that.But I also don't NEED it, like I did when work was a huge negative influence on my life.I thought I was the problem.I wasn't.Work was.Find out what has an outsized negative influence on your life and kick it out.You may be gooning out of necessity, as a survival mechanism, a dopamine hit like a drug to relax after a BS work week.You may not be the problem, your environment may be.And the spiritual implication of a negative environment?You're unhappy. Constantly.And if you can't be happy in life, then what's the point living?
>>41828235>Something tells me that by you even asking this kind of question that you are already experiencing some weird thingsHonestly I had a bought of quasi-gangstalking behavior about a decade ago after I experienced psychosis following a bad acid trip. I got better, I refused to become a tranny like the universe was trying to force me to, and I eventually got back to normal. I think they moved on for the most part. Anyway, I've lost, my life sucks, they won. I don't think gangstalkers could make my life any worse if they tried desu>>41828363>What you should do is come to the Lord Jesus Christ, he WILL free you from this, although it will be difficult. But it will happen if you truly trust in him. You might not want to hear this but it's important I tell you. Good luck OP.I used to be religious and believed in Catholicism but I don't anymore. I think Jesus was largely a fiction created by Roman authorities to pacify the jewish population and also to create a new form of mind control that might spur the citizenry into better behavior since they were degenerates and not even worshipping the old gods anymore. I don't think it was evil or bad but it has run it's course and I'm not entrusting my life to a guy from 2000 years ago who may or may not have actually existed.>>41828454>I don't want the dopamine hit like that.>But I also don't NEED it, like I did when work was a huge negative influence on my life.>I thought I was the problem.>I wasn't.>Work was.>Find out what has an outsized negative influence on your life and kick it out.>You may be gooning out of necessity, as a survival mechanism, a dopamine hit like a drug to relax after a BS work week.Yeah, this is exactly it. My job is pretty stressful and I think actually makes me more depressed than any other job I've had in my life. It's a real downer
>>41830747I hear you loud and clear.Glad it resonates.I quit my job and is it was not optimal at all... I have a out 6 months of savings, on interest/credit, and a fuck ton of expenses coming up - 20k 0% i terest credit card coming due - no prob if I was employed, I'm hosting my European siblings for like 3 weeks and promised them Disney Land etc. this summer, and am still rehabbing a rental property, and property taxes and shit.I could rreeeaalllyy use the 14k/month I was making.But.I have been more productive in a month, and not even burned out 5 "days off" since Christmas, 8+ hour days of solid digital work. Time lapse of me would be me sitting in a chair for a month straight. Basically all I do right now.0 income. My side hustle is not closing a single lead...Last time I got fired I got hired with a 50% base pay increase. That has happened a few times in my life. Get fired for a BS reason, get hired for even more.This time, I'm not trying to get a job so quick.I have 25 years if experience, I'm an expert in my fields, my side hustle and my j.o.b. which are different.I can always get another j.o.b. I don't always have the time & energy I have now to invest in myself.>The Point Is, OP: There is no good time to burn the ships. You're killing yourself waiting for the perfect or right time. If you're a survivor, you'll figure it out.
>>4183082715 years*so still young enough to not be aged out of employment.and again, no family/dependents. So if I need to rent my house out and live in my car & shower at the gym, real startup vibes, I'm not dragging my family/dependents along for the ride.My SIL's mom did that. They were living in a storage unit, using the gas station bathroom sink to shower and wash their clothes and use the toilet.I would slave before putting my family through that, and many do.You have an opportunity most your age don't.>No good time to burn the ships. Might as well do it now. You know what the rest of this life has to offer, and it's not satisfying. Is quitting that much worse? You have nothing to lose - it could just be another shitty situation, sure, but everything to gain because what if it's not what if it works out? And your only option for it working out, is to quit your job which is bringing you down.Think about it.If you're a survivors, if you have grit, if it was fight or flight and you know you'd kill a man without a second thought, then your job is holding you back.If you know you need your job, you're nothing without it, not good enough to get another job, or you don't do your job well even when you try, then, your job is a life preserver keeping you afloat, and, until you get better, this IS as good as it's going to get. Do what you will with that realization.For 15+ years I would go to sleep being completely okay with not waking up in the morning. I no longer feel that way, and haven't for a long time.Godspeed and God bless, OP.
>>41828341wow the jews actually won huh?
Anyone else think mods should sticky this as a warning for gooners in their 20s and younger? But as for you OP bro yeah you’re fucked, sorry
>On the one hand, I feel like I'm being some kind of luciferian Chad and doing what thou wilt so to speak.lmao Im sorry it's a sad state but picturing anon hyped on pharma speed and gooning to degenerate shit alone in his smelly room with the blinds drawn and mess everywhere imagining he is a luciferian chad is hilarious
>>41828157It’s the drugs that are fucking you up way more than jacking off.You could even just spend half as much on drugs and that’s an extra $2,400 a year. Go on a nice cruise annually and take half as many drugs. Get on a cruise and you’ll meet so many desperate middle aged women and then you can do drugs together. Life fixed.Spiritually you’re in a negative spiral but all that’s happening is the longer you’re in it the longer it’ll take to get out. You’re accumulating momentum in the wrong direction.
>>41831032>You’re accumulating momentum in the wrong direction.Exactly this OP.At least you're still young enough to turn it around. I know you're in the midst of addiction right now, but just a tiny deviation towards a better direction will begin to turn the tides. Start with very small very achievable things. Like, for ONCE try and turn the screens off at a reasonable hour and get a good night's sleep. See how good an actual period of rest does for the mind even on just a physical level. And just form new habits very very slowly at YOUR pace. You can't just stop it and take a break, you will relapse. I promise there is a way through this, you need to start chipping away at the built up habits. As for the spiritual stuff I have no idea, but I've been wackin it since my teens right to my early 30's till my balls were blue and my dick was raw and yeah, it's a road to nowhere. If I did it, you can do it.
>>41828157niggaaaaa swag
>>41828454This can make people more uncomfortable with masturbation and certain other things, like thinking ugly thoughts in their mind where others might telepathically hear, that the methods I teach people can lead people to hear their ancestors better, and vice-versa, that their ancestors' presence will be felt by them in their unconscious more and more strongly. If they're around and paying attention, which, really, and think about this...why would they?I helped everyone of this thread. Since you were all worried your gooning was detrimental to spirituality, I advanced how much it helps me with the holy plan instead so it helps even more.
>>41831526The solution for this is like so many other things...why quit masturbating, when you can redesign your nervous system just a little, and that of foes, so you don't give a shit if your ancestors watch you masturbate?
>>41828157Gooning is a form of kabbalah. The worst kind. Doing this unconsciously leads to nothing at all materially, and spirits feed on your energy and will play around with you to get more, and no one would do it consciously because there are tons of better ways to be sigma such as coming up with new insults in hebrew I don't know
I've heard good things about agmatine sulfate and addiction. Helped with my depression a bit but can't vouch for addiction as I don't really have any. Do your own research on interactions it may have and stuff. I'm more worried about your meth usage than the gooning desu
>>41831011This.OP does sound completely lost. It's absolute addict behavior. You're in a system, OP. You KNOW it, you KNOW you're fucked. Just stop.
>>41828157Shouldn't have left the discord, you fucking idiot.
>>41830747Um, it's a two-way street for Christianity.Christianity's left hand path is believing that Jesus existed and that he was a son of God.Christianity's right hand path is believing and following what JESUS TAUGHT.
>>41828157Yeah, staying up all night on meth and abusing your cock to porn is total "lucierian chad" behavior. You're such an initiate to the bachanalian mysteries. Keep it up, you hopeless faggot. Only good things await you.
imma be quick and mog every other post:1. get it(!) out your system 2. proceed in doing better for the world we live and love in a system that’s either a zero-sum, or an infinitely possible reality of pleasure, depending how ((you)) [we] see it. Goodnight.
>>41830747If your job makes you do drugs, and you keep working.You deserve everything coming your way, ngl.
>>41831031But did I make you laugh? If so I have helped to spread joy, and how can that be a bad thing?
>>41831032>>41831347>>You’re accumulating momentum in the wrong direction.>Exactly this OP.>At least you're still young enough to turn it aroundI don't know if I can turn it around. I turn 25 this year. I've worked full time since I graduated college in 2013 and I have nothing to show for it. I've never even had one year where I made 50k. Current job I make 42k per year, last job I got fired from I did clear 49k due to overtime, and that was the most money I've ever made. I know I could quit drugs and engage in better habits and have a marginally healthier life. But I don't know if that'll really be worth it. That last two periods of my life with extended sobriety, 6+ months of not doing drugs, were June of 2020 to October 2021 and then November 2022 to April of 2023. I really can't say those periods of my life were any better than my degenerate lifestyle now. Perhaps my body was in better shape. But during one of those times I was unemployed and living with my parents, extremely depressed. The other time in 2023 I was starting a new job and working from home saving money before I moved into a cheap apartment. Both times I was just so bored.
>>41830860>If you're a survivors, if you have grit, if it was fight or flight and you know you'd kill a man without a second thought, then your job is holding you back.>If you know you need your job, you're nothing without it, not good enough to get another job, or you don't do your job well even when you try, then, your job is a life preserver keeping you afloat, and, until you get better, this IS as good as it's going to get. Do what you will with that realization.Yeah I worry it's the latter. Every time I've quit a job or gotten fired, I've ended up getting another job that pays about the same, maybe a dollar per hour more or less. I got fired from my previous job in October of 2024. It took me 6 months to find another job that was worse in every way and paid $2 per hour less than I was previously making. I've thought about making a YouTube channel documenting our reality, and trying to go into a creative endeavor like that, but I don't have much of a plan and I'm not sure if it would work. It's one of those things that would be a massive gamble, and knowing my luck (which has been awful lately) it wouldn't work out. I often feel like my life is tolerating suffering solely to avoid an even greater suffering. It's sad. It's hard for me to enjoy going to concerts or hanging out with my friends or doing anything that used to bring me pleasure, because the reality of my life (middle aged, shit job, no gf, aging parents) just stares me back in the face. I don't even enjoy hanging out with most of my friends. I only have like 2 or 3 friends I hang out with on any regular basis. But even with my larger extended group of friends from high school/college, whenever I get invited to a larger event, I often choose not to attend. Because I don't want to have to talk about my job or my life. Half of my friends are getting married, having kids, bought their own house years ago. Meanwhile I essentially drive a bus for $20 per hour and can barely afford anything
>>41831723s>>41831741>>41831861Why does everyone think I'm using meth? Because I'm poor? No fools, I am using cocaine because it's not as bad for as meth. Frankly, the gooning while high on stimulants is a way to stretch the effects of the drug. A gram of coke will only get you so high, but you combine it with hardcore internet pornography and booze and all of a sudden you get like 3 times as high without spending 3x the money>>41831741>You're in a system, OP. You KNOW it, you KNOW you're fucked. Just stop.Will stopping my behavior really help? Yes I know I'm in a system. Yes I know I'm fucked. But why stop? Seriously? Life sucks. I either deal with it sucking and not getting better, or I get high and be a degenerate and at least experiments temporary moments of pleasure and happiness
>>41832419You're in first steps of a downward spiral where your dopamine baseline has been completely highjacked by porn and stimulants.Trust me, I've done my share of drugs, if you think life sucks now, wait till you dream about suicide every second you exist because nothing except porn and stimulants will feel rewarding to your brain.You will hate yourself, your life and you will blame everyone for what was happened to you.You know all this, you're not completely gone, yet. That's why you made the thread.You defending your actions, I've been there, I am you. You're crying out for help because you've already hit a point where you cannot stop.
You'll become a target for unseen entities that feed off of sexual energy. That's it really. You'll feel tired and drained all the time but that can be fixed by simply not fucking gooning. A little bonus is that you'll appear very "unappetizing" to other entities that feed on human emotions so that's good I guess. Look into cases of "spiritual Obsession" and don't get super caught up in the neo-christian morality slop, and you'll see in almost every case the entity asks their host to stop masturbating and stop having sex. They don't want you giving out all their food to a bunch of homeless people from their perspective essentially.
Terrible place to ask because /x/ is usually a pro-gooning and pro-succubus board, lots of cope hereLots of beta simps worshiping ishtar, poor retards making dumb deals with witches and wicca e-girlsThe truth is simple; gooning is bad for your soul. And it's affecting others too, you are giving (((them))) power. This is not about money, it's about energy. It's about making the world a better place; You will never find peace if you keep doing it anon. They use porn, onlyfans and feminism to control you, and then they use your wasted energy (and money) to destroy everything around you
>>41832273>. I turn 25 this year. I've worked full time since I graduated college in 2013So what, you graduated from college at...12?>>41832667>You're in first steps of a downward spiral where your dopamine baselineWhen you have to take drugs to binge in PMO you are no longer in the first steps, anon, you'd be quite deep, nearly rock bottom I'd say.
gooning ages you and weakens your bones and degrafes your minerials thus aging you like milkit also desenities you to satanic content.do you even know that porn is a portal for incubus and succubus into your lifedid you know that prolonged porn makes you gay did you know that micro plasics contain BPD oils which when plastics break down kill your reproduction organs.also when your fapping don't you think future lovers might see the shit your going and what if you can't get turned on by normal human.uh ohya fucked up.
>>41832965Bro, how do you go from "yeah, that sounds about right" to "what the fuck am i reading?"
>>41828157So cocaine, alcohol and porn?That's a powerful CNS stimulant, a CNS depressant and a visual stimuli that also increase dopamine.Sorry brother, but you will need literal rehab. I feel sorry for you, because as far as heaven and hell go in a state of mind, you will feel like you're literally in hell.
>>41828157Mother Earth spirit and your soul do not want you wasting your essence on loveless actions to a screen.
>>41832980Do a heroic does of K, subcutaneous, and crawl back into reality. I reset every addiction in my body literally overnight. I could no longer drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes, no longer wanted coke or clear. I literally had to force myself to try it all again . Now, I have no desire to goon. My sex drive is something I switch on and off. And oh baby the sex with my GF is soulmelding. I only use my sexual strength with her, and if I do choose to view porn, it’s literally of me and my GF. The control I have over my previous adddictons is life changing. Protect your sexual energy at all cost, because it is priceless. You posted here because you have a feeling deep down inside there is more to your life — you will find it.
