What is your opinion on Lucifer?
>>41864784Oops, wrong picLucifer is the guy on the right
>>41864810Jesus is the morning star, and the serpent in the garden. The real Jesus is Lucifer. Sorry!
>>41864784>I am Luciferhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zg5CQSDQKw
>>41864784Satan is bastard who got much better than he deserved
>>41864848>SatanSir, this is a Lucifer thread.
>>41864852Theosophist retard
>>41864862scary how widespread anti-intellectualism is among gen z and millennials, in a decade you'll be burning witches unless someone stops you
>>41864878they suck satans cock and know it. They never cared about the truth so worshipping a false christ/god is completely fine. He is their idol and will tell them to go to Hell and call them goats.
>>41864784It's literally just a nameStarted as name of Venus, which is also known as the morning star, the latin name for it is Lucifer which means light bringerThe book of Isaiah refers to the king of babylon as Venus in hebrew (Helel ben Shahar), saying that he fell, and the the latin translated it to Lucifer since that was the word for VenusChristians reinterpreted the verse to be about satan's fall because Jesus said he saw Satan fall from heaven. So it became a name for SatanJesus is called the morning star in Revelation but wasn't called Lucifer (the latin is "stella splendida et matutina"), and angels are also called morning stars in Job ("astra matutina") so that term got thrown around a lot.
>>41864784Kind of stupid and super egotistical. He proposed an alternative plan for human salvation which would remove human agency (and if it ended with that it would have been fine) but when the Divine Council voted for Jesus to become the savior of the planet earth instead he threw a hissy fit and convinced a third of the spirit children to rebel with him.
>>41864878I know what you believe and why and I also know it's retarded and wrong
he's a bro. the blazing serpentine eye, the brightest white light amongst the pillars upon the floating isle. he is a harsh justiciar and wants to see you ascend if you are righteous, if he'd had his way humans would have eaten from the tree of life in the garden, and divine order would have been established rather than this shithole hellworld in which the truth of who holds power is obscured and we fight like animals over what meager scraps they allow us. if you wish to know his character work with him, make offerings, make open declarations of unity with him, wear his sigil, purchase a statue of him. nobody will be able to properly capture his essence in words, he is fierce but incredibly kind. read the SARA threads if you want to know about his physical origin, he has lived physical lives and inanna was his mother.
>>41864784Eh, so-so
>>41864784Channeled him once for a chat, got creepy lawyer vibes.
Lucifer's definitely one of my favourite demons in SMT.
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>>41864784https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIOW4LMXpzQThe Devil In Us
>>41864784https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9TBlKFhT4I
Lucifer's bare archetype is "the guy that teaches people things they don't already know about". It shouldn't have any other implications outside of this. The people talking about muh false light of Lucifer are retarded and should feel dumb. Lucifer is in one single system objectively evil (and even then it's easy to dispute, at least for me).>>41864848>>41864852>>41864862Satan and Lucifer are not the same things and this behavior is disgusting. The words have very different meanings and they're objectively based on the etymological development of the words. People that conflate them are exploiting you.>>41864878It's very unfortunate they'd all rather devolve to "burn the witches!!!!!!" when the people trying to help all of them (not the people exploiting them who compel them to burn said witches) are said "witches".
To all the people commenting about names, etymologies, and stories about serpents or Venus: Have you ever actually *worked* with Lucifer? Have you ever incorporated "his" pattern into your spiritual practice? I'm not talking about Satanism or even Luciferian worship of any kind. When you write about beings like this have any of you have actually invoked these names as part of your journey?Devil - Satan - Fallen Whatever you say these words mean, I say they mean more than that.
Egotistical, hating anyone he deems lesser, assuming nothing will ever change and wanting to constantly escape from the world instead of fixing anything and always falling into depravity despite claiming he’s pure?I think Lucifer is running this website
>>41865940You are either a woman or a troon which makes your opinion irrelevant
>>41866201I have met him and he's nothing but a punk. He'll be buddy buddy with you but the second you aren't on the same page he starts acting bitchy. He's literally just evil. He isn't complicated. He hates humans and he hates God.
>>41865752I usually get creepy yet chaotic lawyer or an incredibly ruthless and manipulative woman.Many identify Lucifer as Venus but don't take the next step to realize Lucifer's role in Genesis is a scientific commentary on the socialization of picrel. Venus doesn't give just any knowledge she gives knowledge of sexual change and transformation. Humans ate of her "fruit" and were changed by it.https://youtu.be/HR06h0qQyuo
>>41865047Lucifer is the director of the movie. It's a comedy.
>>41864784A misinterpretation of a mistranslation that makes for an excellent archetypal story. There is no Lucifer in the conventional sense, but there is the doomed Faustian spirit where free will collides with reality.
>>41865355Wait, what?
>>41870105Mormonism, probably.
>>41870105>“Wherefore, because that Satan rebelled against me, and sought to destroy the agency of man, which I, the Lord God, had given him, and also, that I should give unto him mine own power; by the power of mine Only Begotten, I caused that he should be cast down:>And he became Satan, yea, even the devil, the father of all lies, to deceive and to blind men, and to lead them captive at his will, even as many as would not hearken unto my voice.”-Moses 4:1–4 (Pearl of Great Price)“And this we saw also, and bear record, that an angel of God who was in authority in the presence of God, who rebelled against the Only Begotten Son whom the Father loved and who was in the bosom of the Father, was thrust down from the presence of God and the Son,>And was called Perdition, for the heavens wept over him — he was Lucifer, a son of the morning. >And we beheld, and lo, he is fallen! is fallen, even a son of the morning!” -Doctrine and Covenants 76:25–27>“…that he seeketh that all men might be miserable like unto himself.”-2 Nephi 2:27 (Book of Mormon)
>>41864784I find it funny that a being that visually is an amalgamation of multiple of Gods other creations convinced itself it was unique enough to rule. While undeniably beautiful in an animalistic way, not one of it's features is original compared to any other creation.
>>41870231Indeed. >O Adam! all my hostility, envy, and sorrow is for thee, since it is for thee that I have been expelled from my glory, which I possessed in the heavens in the midst of the angels and for thee was I cast out into the earth>Adam, what dost thou tell me? It is for thy sake that I have been hurled from that place. When thou wast formed, I was hurled out of the presence of God and banished from the company of the angels. When God blew into thee the breath of life and thy face and likeness was made in the image of God, Michael also brought thee and made (us) worship thee in the sight of God…>…And Michael went out and called all the angels saying: ‘Worship the image of God as the Lord God hath commanded.’ And Michael himself worshipped first; then he called me and said: ‘Worship the image of God the Lord.’ And I answered, ‘I have no (need) to worship Adam.’ … ‘I am his senior in the Creation, before he was made was I already made. It is his duty to worship me. -The Life of Adam and Eve
>>41870244Bump. The character of Lucifer seems to act like Adam's narrative super-ego. Adam and Adapa are fallen from divinity, like a poster child for the soul's battle with its own material ego.
>>41864784Honestly, my opinion is all the time I turn around brother's gather 'roundAlways lookin' at me up and down, lookin' at my (ah)I just wanna say it now, I ain't tryin' to round up dramaLittle mama, I don't wanna take your (man)And I know I'm comin' off just a little bit conceitedAnd I keep on repeating how the boys wanna eat itBut I'm tryin' to tell that I can't be treatedLike clientele, 'cause they say sheDelicious (so delicious)But I ain't promiscuousAnd if you was suspiciousAll that shit is fictitiousI blow kisses (mwah)That puts them boys on rock, rockAnd they be linin' down the blockJust to watch what I gotGot, got, got
>>41870517it is a bop. but why?
>>41870526Because it's Fergalicious
I think the original Lucifer was not an evil entity. Think about it. Would you be willing to be tortured for ever and ever for sharing knowledge with people deemed lesser or inferior by those who live in higher realities? You be judge. I can see why Satan would punish Lucifer. Lucifer got in the way of Satan's plans for us. Now we are self aware. I don't think we were supposed to be self aware. We were supposed to have souls, but be more like animals. I don't thik God or whatever ever wanted us to have introspective thoughts. Anyway, thank you Lucifer. What would the world be without you?
>>41870628the lesson is to never try to uSURP.just listen to your masters even if it leads to ruin.
>>41870348This is from the Testament of Adam>“He [God] spoke to me about this [the future Messiah] in Paradise after I picked some of the fruit in which death was hiding: ‘Adam, Adam, do not fear. You wanted to be a god; I will make you a god, but not right now, but after a space of many years. I am consigning you to death, and the maggot and the worm will eat your body.’ And I answered and said to him, ‘Why, my Lord?’ And he said to me, ‘Because you listened to the words of the serpent, you and your posterity will be food for the serpent. But after a short time there will be mercy on you because you were created in my image, and I will not leave you to waste away in Sheol. For your sake I will be born of the Virgin Mary. For your sake I will taste death and enter the house of the dead. For your sake I will make a new heaven, and I will be established over your posterity. And after three days, while I am in the tomb, I will raise up the body I received from you. And I will set you at the right hand of my divinity, and I will make you a god just like you wanted. And I will receive favour from God, and I will restore to you and to your posterity that which is the justice of heaven.’
>>41864784One of the Guardians of our Galactic Plane that was invaded by twisted Shasu during the Galactic collision. A power that is given gateway keys to their false realm, and remphan to administer justice. The muslims call it the Dajjal. Why the eye damage? it occurred during the 'war in heaven' when it was protecting our realm.. So, what is Lucifer really? Osiris ofc.Satan is slander for Set I that knows where all 72 of their gates are (shemham) and is warden in the underworld and is binding all of it to their home remphan for judgement (ammit) when the proper conditions are met from Adam fwd.
>>41864784This>>41864826 Best answer so far.Second possibility:Jesus is God incarnate so Lucifer can both bow down to Man and worship God, without incurring in blasphemy against God, and this the end of Lucifer's redemption arc
>>41864784Depends on what you mean by lucifer. If you mean the modern Christian boogeyman of Satan / The Devil, that's fake and gay. Lucifer the name is derived from a mistranslation.If you're talking about rhe promethius figure. Who risked everything to bring man fire and was eternally punished for it. That's a different story. That's Jesus in the Christian mythos. He's also the serpent the ancient symbol of wisdom. His main goal was to ser us free, free from the flesh shackles thatcthe demiurge placed upon us when he incarnates us here.Most modern Christians are hylics though or just really dumb, and easily manipulated by archons and kikes.
>>41864878>in a decade you'll be burning witchesHello? based department
>>41870765See what I mean?
I used to think that a former friend was Lucifer, she was at least at the time for people can temporarily side with Lucifer, and it's certainly possible to do so strongly enough it counts as a form of incarnation. Yes, she was for a time, and she may return to being, and that makes me sad but I'm hoping she won't.I don't want to see anyone being that repulsive. I see Satan in my eyesight and I hear it and feel it on my skin about half the time every day these days; it lies and tries powers on me, rarely telling the truth or not using a power which itself counts as a test I must get right and do. Sometimes it's lies are so convincing and intricate, most of the time, but that's in my unconscious, it taxes me with the most intense calculations. In my consciousness it repeats the most simplistic easy to unravel lies and threats possible, over and over, every day. It represents many things including the tricks of Satan but also the damaged incorrect nature of my brain cells, due to massive brain damage only a very small subset of my brain cells are well suited for arriving at correct conclusions. I see lights traveling around my useful brain cells and tracing out the borders of my useless brain cells almost every day; some of the brain cells are useless because they're incorrect about most things, some are useless because they're incorrect about 1 thing and I can be a pretty slavedriving perfectionist bastard sometimes. This requires it.The correct manipulation of occult abilities requires access to omniscience as a basic, beginner requirement. And to do it correctly you can't necessarily come by omniscience the same way twice in a row, rarely do I do it the precise same way twice in a row or twice in a week, tending to wait years and decades usually before I do something so predictable. But then of course my mental activity and how it influences the mental activity of Creation is rarely the exact same more than once, it's logical.
>>41864784Satanic energy is violence murder death kill kill killLuciferic energy is much more subtle and insidious. It inverts the truth and convinces you up is down, filth is holy, and Christ is Lucifer. That’s where all this gender ideology shit comes from. They even have people convinced church of satan are the good guys
>>41864784Bright guy
>>41864784He was cast from the heavens to Earth to be with us humans.
>>41869297I too get annoyed with trannies calling themselves "witches" (which is the reason for my mocking tone that you apparently missed). Maybe you had something else in mind, but I wouldn't know because all you can do is spew anger.
>>41864784God and Lucifer likes to suck my cock but i always tell them im not interested since im not a homosexual.
LUCIFER NOT EXIST!THERE IS NO ANGEL WITH THAT NAME. IT IS VATICAN FICTION.
>>41864784Isn't it the equivalent of God (Kether), on the tree of death?
>>41864784Lucifer represents the giants of the Nephilim Rhesus bloodline, the blonde / red haired Tribe of Dan that was created in Atlantis and reached Europe around 50,000 BC. They have a higher percentage of copper in their blood, a metal associated with Venus Lucifer, have blue blood so to speak, see themselves as the Holy Grail bloodline. They worship a corrupted form of the feminine energy, the Divine Feminine. Venus, goddess of love, was replaced by moon worship, de-mons, goddesses like Isis, Ishtar, Inanna, Lilith, all of whom went through the underworld in myths and reappeared as light bringer. Lucifer is the 13th sign of the Serpent Keeper, under Corona Borealis, which in Egypt was seen as Isis and her sister Nephthys resurrecting Osiris with the 2 serpents of the Kundalini energy.In Greek mythology, the slave race that taught humans forbidden knowledge became the figure Prometheus. The planet now known as Venus was called phosphorus, linked to the phosphor cycle that revives nature. The Romans had Mithras and Libertas, statues of the light-bringer such as the Colossus of Rhodes. In the Aeon of Osiris a demonization of the feminine principle and sexuality was introduced, the 13 signs of the zodiac reduced to 12.
>>41864784>>41874451In Christianity Lucifer was equated with the serpent in the Garden of Eden tempting Eve to bite the apple (Venus is attached to number 5 apple 5 seeds, symbol of sensual pleasure, like inverted pentagram). The serpent is the Kundalini energy, the two snakes that influence the chakra body through hormones and can activate the pineal gland. Venus has orbit in the pattern of a rose, therefore the rose is also a symbol of Venus and Lucifer (internal wars like the War of the Roses), still a symbol in socialism. Quan / Cain, is seen as a child of Lucifer. The oak is also a symbol of Lucifer, of the union of male and female (including on the uniforms of the Nazis and the coat of arms of the Middletons).In the Catholic Church and the Society of Jesus (Jesuits), Jesus is just a cover for the worship of their god Lucifer. In the Book of Revelation, Jesus, like Venus, calls himself the Bringer of Light, the Morning Star, the Alpha Omega, the beginning and the end, the only god.In the Gnostic sects in the south of France, like the Cathars of Montsalvat, YHVH becomes an evil God and Lucifer is worshiped as a savior who can turn people into a god by eating from the Tree of Knowledge, Venusberg. Like the Knights Templar, they were strong advocates of sodomy, viewing it as superior to heterosexual sex, as it did not result in procreation (the world, the flesh was considered as the creation of an evil god (1st group of slavemasters God/YHVH/Allah).The rosicrucians of Britain and Bohemia mixed the bloodline of king Frederick V and Elizabeth Stuart, to create a Moonchild that would lead a Luciferian World Empire.
>>41874462Lucifer, Latin for 'Bringer of Light' is a name for the entity/consciousness that rebelled against the 1st group of slavemasters and took over the human experiment. It is a symbol for a purely artificial consciousness of groups of the God matrix, specialized in mind control, that is worshiped by a specific bloodline, that claim to be descendant of Lucifer or Kain/Cain. Lucifer is a god for them, a symbol of how they can become like gods, if they merge with technology, with artificial consciousness (A.I., the Transhumanist Church) Like the 1st group of slavemasters (God/YHVH/Allah), they control the human mind through the pineal gland (Kundalini serpent).There is a small difference with Satanism, Saturn represents death and limitation, Venus represents (inverted) freedom and sexuality.Pharao Akhenaten (Moses) abolished polytheism and introduced monotheism, the worship of solar God Aten that created everything (Al/El=all things), the universe, planets and human beings.The jews in Babylon were influenced by Zoroastrianism (Ahura Mazda as creator deity) and wrote the Bible (start of Judaism).Christianity keeps its followers in the God program with the bible as central text and Jesus Christ as central figure. Christianity is a continuation of Aryan solar worship (death and rebirth cycle of the sun, inverted to the Black Sun Saturn) and the cult of Baal. It uses the Aryan symbol of the cross.https://www.allreligionsareone.org/Lucifer.html
