Would you accept this deal?You become a vampire:- You are immortal and remain young forever (but you can kill yourself if you want to)- You gain immense strength and speed- You inherit a good amount of moneyIn exchange:- You can never see the sun or a blue sky again- You must drink large amounts of fresh human blood every week (blood banks don't work because it's not fresh enough) and eventually people will die by your hand... and no, you can't just hunt "criminals" realistically it would be random innocent victims at some point- You can never tell anyone the truth; if you do, another vampire will kill you
>>41876622How much money is "a good amount"? At a certain point I could just pay people to donate some of their blood to me.
>>41876622don't forget losing your soul. you're just a flesh automaton animated by neurotransmitters.
>>41877141The divine light has been severed.I shine where the divine light does not.
>>41877090based
>>41876622Sure but i’d have to move to a country like Russia, India or China where it would be easier to procure victims outside the big cities. In the west this sounds like a pain in the ass.I could come up with solutions if i knew exactly what type of vampirism we’re talking about, there’s a bunch of them in pop culture and folklore, from metaphysical vampirism to alien nanomachines.
No, losing my eternal divine soul is too steep a price for some temporary immortality (cope & seethe vampfags, whether by a freak accident, a random junkie, some Van Helsing type, or the sun going red dwarf, you WILL die one die)
>>41877090or the homeless, or have a harem to feed off of
>>41877448Why the fuck would you lose your eternal soul because you fuck around as a vampire? That life is like a blink to a soul.
>>418774541. Demonic nightwalking undead abominations don't return to the divine light2. As OP pointed out, at some point, you will be forced to murder an innocent to sustain your abominable unnatural life
>>41876622>Would you accept this deal?>>You become a vampire:nonew dealThe vampire dies, I keep my humanityI liberate the vampires spirit, and I protect my human spirit
>>418774611. Who says Vampires are demonic abominations? Why do you not call humans abominations for feasting corpse flesh of sentient, innocent animals every day?2. Like God murders the innocent non-stop? How children and animals are crushed in floods or hurricanes? Or born with fucked up diseases that cripple them and slowly kill them, even though God is 100% able to save them if he wants to because sometimes people get miracles?I mean I agree with the don't kill people, I wouldn't do it, not for power or living forever but ... I don't see any evidence that God cares. He's the ultimate killer anyway himself.
>>41876622I'm gonna destroy evil single demonic entity that walks this earth
>>41877475are you going to get started anytime soon?
>>41877472Ok calm down Lestat
>>41877489Lestat has a point if the authority is "God" but my authority isn't God so I don't agree with killing people for your own benefit. Although I still eat meat unfortunately and am complicit in evil.
>>41877472>Who says Vampires are demonic abominations?I do>Why do you not call humans abominations for feasting corpse flesh of sentient, innocent animals every day?I actually do think that the commoditization & disrespect for animal life is an abomination, while I don't fault the hunter or the local farmer for slaughtering the occasional animal to feed his family I cannot abide the treatment of animals in our modern factory farming practices and so I do not participate>I don't see any evidence that God cares. He's the ultimate killer anyway himselfFine, I'm not here to debate religion or the nature of God, I think listening to your heart and trusting your human spirit on this matter if the wisest course anyway. If that's your view of God then I all I will say is "be better than him"
>>41877448what makes you think its not just a biological change?
>>41877517Fair enough. Your answer makes sense.
>>41877517>>41877461christians called medicine and science demonic as wellblack cats, toads and so on were demonic familiars lolstop taking the jew cult seriously
>>41876622>and no, you can't just hunt "criminals" realistically it would be random innocent victims at some pointEither you underestimate how much scum there is out there, or your definition of large is something retarded.
>>41876622None of this is really based in folklore. Sunlight destroying vampires and human blood only are movie tropes.
>>41876622you give me a big tiddy goth vampire gf like this and I am 100% in for whatever, this life sucks
absolutely I would take that deal
>>41877995No issue killing people?
>>41876622Shit deal unless you were attractive when you were young. I would not take it because I am 5'8". Now if I was to become extremely attractive when becoming a vampire, I would strongly consider it.
>>41878007Yeah. I would just feed on non white people my conscience is clean
>>41876622>You must drink large amounts of fresh human blood every weekwhats large amount?
>>41876622Yes. I'm an unstable moron.
>>41876622>solves money problems>solves health problems>unlimited time to find a big tiddy vamp goth mommy to loveYES.
>>41876622>Would you accept this deal?>You become a vampi-Yes.
>>41876622yeah. so you gonna turn me or what
Where the fuck is this free money coming from?Here's the realistic vampire>You are immortal>You will need to find a way to make money while being extremely limited in your actions due to being a vampire.Hope you like being an eternal wage slave who takes night shifts
>>41876622Easily. I see no downsides at all.
>>41876622deal me another
Kind of disturbing seeing all these average men in here saying they would be willing to kill innocent people if that made them immortal and powerful.
>>41878107but aren't you what you eat?
>>41878530come here buddy let me show you how real men fuck.
>>41876622Request a reroll of the deal where the creature in question is a werewolf. Not trying to be that guy or derail but I'm honestly tired of vampires. They're so overdone to me and if not a werewolf; hell any Cryptid or other Mythological creature would be interesting.
>>41878690You are and your kind is not innocent, you just baselessly and religiously believe soIn reality you are insmouth style monster but gay and rerarded, a utterly inhuman sheep in a human clothing
>>41878821>But what is a Man?chill out drac dude
>>41878821>narcissistic schizo babbleAmazing. Never seen before. Definitely not common slop on /x/ all day long.
>>41876622Sounds too inconvenient. And I like daytime. So no
>>41878690You're so naive and innocent...For example, I'm from Russia. Here, people go to war to kill residents of another country because they don't have the money to pay off their loans, and in 80% of cases, they turn into bone and filth fertilizer for the soil.On the front lines, there are very few ideological supporters and those who had a choice between 20+ years in prison or something similar - 95% of the soldiers there are "ordinary people", just like those who once worked in the German concentration camp system, for them it's "well, that's the job, it happens"And there are also residents of Iran, North Korea, and so on...People may be different by nature, but if they live and share the values of an oppressive system that values neither their lives nor the lives of any "other" people, a "negative selection" occurs. As a result, what is horrific becomes the norm. And anyone within this system who doesn't share its beliefs will be expelled, destroyed, or die out over time as long as it operates.This creates a funny situation: if you pick people at random from a pool of such... "people," you have a 50 to 95% chance of running into a scoundrel, a bastard, or even worse.Moreover, the higher the hierarchy in such a system, the higher their concentration. I recommend watching propaganda films about how Allied soldiers should behave in Germany after victory; they illustrate this more clearly.
When a vampire drains your blood you die.Then some virus (or whatever suits your headcannon, entity, demonic influence, etc.) enters your body and animates it like a puppet.The "you" that wakes up is not the "you" that took the deal.
>>41876622>You can never see the sun or a blue sky againSure you can, we have video cameras now.
>>41877448>>41877461You bone-heads never heard of the Eucharist? If the christian god exists he promotes Vampirism>>41877472Right, a Vampire could indulge themselves for millennia and not approach the infinitely cruelty of the christian god
>>41877840Ah folklore, a notoriously accurate source of information!>>41878028How vain are you?>>41878559You'd be shocked how easy it is to obtain money when you have lots of time and don't value human life.>>41878690Fool, humans will kill innocent people for far less. Any normal human is a few days of thirst away from killing a child for a glass of water.>>41879736Yep trust the russkie to get it. Almost every normal human is capable of incredible cruelty, you all just like to pretend you aren't.
>>41876622Nope. Sounds gay.
>>41877439Eventually you'll be hunted down by angry humans with guns once they catch on what's going on.
>>41878690It's the duality of Mankind. That's why it's important to uphold a society with law and order in order to keep people from committing crimes for wealth and power on a regular basis. It won't ever be perfect, but it's the best we can do.
>>41876622probably not, i dont really want to eat people
>>41879973That would be ok as long as it’s not the authorities. I just need to murk them and make it look like a bear or a tiger killed them (depending on where i am). That would rarely, if ever happen though.Besides, priority number one should be finding ways to make contact with whatever vampire community there is, if there’s one vampire there has to be more, and they should have a system in place.
>>41880103If there's people being killed by bears or tigers, they're gonna go search for them to kill or capture those animals who have a taste of human flesh. You need large amounts of human blood every week to sustain yourself. Eventually there will be signs and tracks of a person doing the killing. You'll leave a footprint, or pieces of hair or clothing, anything that says an animal may not have done this. Their blood will be sucked dry from their corpses.Eventually people will start deploying technology like thermals or night vision to track you down during the night once enough people go missing. It doesn't even need to be law enforcement that needs to do this, even military personnel could be used, or civilians who simply had enough of this murdering nonsense and will do the job themselves. The point I'm trying to make here is that being a vampire during modern times is a losing battle with the rise of technology and the interconnectedness of humans. Even in remote places in Russia, they will have cell phones and can contact people outside their village about the situation.Vampires will be hunted down by human beings. It's difficult for vampires to organize because once they do, it'll be much easier to detect them and destroy them all together. Vampires have to be low profile if they have any chance for survival. But that won't matter anyways, eventually they'll be made extinct by humans. Evil loses in the long-term. It's the simple truth.
vampirism sounds like it would be a logistical nightmare irl if the "burns in the sun" thing appliesnot because i actually enjoy being outside during the day but because getting burnt alive because i forgot to close my blinds before going to bed sounds like a very scary sword to have hanging above my head
>>41880259Everyone knows the price of “being a vampire” and its downsides. Everything you mention can be either avoided or mitigated. And the whole moral narrative with the “bad always loses at the end” punchline is pointless. There’s no people that is only good, and we’re all gonna die.
>>41876622Grove is dead. Give up.
>>41876622No. I like watching sunrises and sunsets too much
>>41876622Can you turn others? Are you a literal cursed being destined to hell, a sorcerer or just a biological anomaly? What if I drink the blood of another vampire? What if I kill a vampire, accidentally or not? Are there any vampire rulers? If so, do I pay taxes to them or bend to their will? Will I develop powers eventually? Are there actual serious vampire hunters? Because many of these are deal breakers.
I already took that dealNow I burn after ten minutes in the sun and it hurts like fuck
>>41880336You can still watch them but if you get direct sun on you for too long it fucks you over >>41880337You can only turn others if you bite the fuck out of them which alerts the authorities or if you sneakily feed the victim some vamp juice when they’re not paying attention which is what most people do these days, it’s all covert op>Are you a literal cursed being destined to hell, a sorcerer or just a biological anomalyyou’re outcast from human society and are in a way a sorcerer, you’re not banished to hell innately and can still be of good character. the only biological anomaly is perhaps the increased healing abilities or speedIf you drink vamp blood nothing will happen you may even get severely ill, there are rulers which stay hidden, you pay tax in the form of territorial boundary lines and respect, the powers you develop depend on your genetic makeup and there are barely any vamp hunters
>>41880259You're making an awful lot of assumptions here.>The point I'm trying to make here is that being a vampire during modern times is a losing battle with the rise of technology and the interconnectedness of humans.Somewhat true, but it seems to me you're for some reason assuming Vampires don't have access to technology. This feels like a strange oversight to me.>It's difficult for vampires to organize because once they do, it'll be much easier to detect them and destroy them all together.This is 2026, you don't have to be near people to organize with them. This also seems to presuppose you would be starting a 'Vampire organization' from scratch. Why are you assuming there isn't one already in place?>Evil loses in the long-term. It's the simple truth.Naive conclusion. In my experience evil very often goes completely unpunished. The world is full of a billion billion little evils and the people that inflict them often live long and happy lives.
>>41880284Obviously you wouldn't forget.>>41880336That's what youtube is for.
>>41880284>getting burnt alive because i forgot to close my blinds before going to bed sounds like a very scary sword to have hanging above my headIt wouldn’t be like the movies where one ray of sun incinerates you and melts your face off. It’s more like extreme discomfort to the eyes and slow burns to skin, which get significantly worse depending on time exposed. 30 Minutes in direct sun? Your skin will go red and be very painful a day later. Five hours in the sun and your skin will bubble, blister, peel and be so painful you can’t even move. Five minutes in direct sun usually does nothing, especially if you have clothes that cover you and glasses.So you wouldn’t die if you woke up and had forgot to shut your blinds. You would just shut your eyes and try to shut them very quickly
>>41876622I think it’s a common misconception that they need blood otherwise they die or turn into savage monstersThe requirement for blood stems from heme iron which when consumed significantly boosts mental preparedness levels and healing abilities as well as general reflex speed. So not drinking it or eating meat means you get very weak and lethargic, cuts take longer to heal, but when you consume something full of it your body gets a boost and you’re energised You can supplement it for other things which is what most people do but in time you’ll start to wither and die and get increased cravings for that something “extra” which you’ll never be able to fully satisfy. This doesn’t necessarily kill you or make you a zombie but it’ll make you more prone to aggression, outbursts and general cynicism in addition to making you physically weaker than you could be leading to a feeling that you’re never truly reaching your full potential Once you’re at that point, even your own blood tastes good
>>41880368Boundaries and respect. Would I be expected to serve others or to command others? How do these rulers interact with other rulers in the world? I'd accept. Though chaos would 100% ensue without a proper tutorial.
>your wife will never get cured of vampus sanguineno i don;t want her or my wife's illness thanks O.P.but i would like to find a cure and have my wife back.idkpretty sure she forgot about me.
>>41876622>You can never see the sun or a blue sky againI already live in England
>>41880371>Somewhat true, but it seems to me you're for some reason assuming Vampires don't have access to technology. This feels like a strange oversight to me.Good luck obtaining human technology reliably and safely as a vampire with all the very strong disadvantages involved. You have to be connected and nearby human civilization to do that. Increased chances of being discovered and ultimately hunted down.>This is 2026, you don't have to be near people to organize with them. This also seems to presuppose you would be starting a 'Vampire organization' from scratch. Why are you assuming there isn't one already in place?Yes, but you do need to be connected to them. How are you going to do that without leaving an obvious trail towards a group of vampires congregating with each other? They will be sniffed out and tracked in the real world just as much as the virtual. And if there was one already in place, as I said, eventually they will be exposed and hunted down towards extinction. Vampires are simply inferior to human beings because they lack one crucial component for survival - adaptability>Naive conclusion. In my experience evil very often goes completely unpunished. The world is full of a billion billion little evils and the people that inflict them often live long and happy lives.Your conclusion is far more naive than mine. In my experience, evil does get punished on a daily basis, and good people do good things every single day. In the long term, good will prevail because Humanity will grow and learn to be more good overall. It may take ages, but that's the path that Mankind wishes to achieve. Most humans on Earth desire peace. That desire is what will ultimately manifest at the end of the road of Humanity's struggle. That is something Humanity will have to earn for itself, and it won't be easy, but nothing in life that's worth achieving ever is. Vampires will be decimated by Humanity>>41880299Whatever helps you to sleep during the daytime, vamp.
>>41876622No, thank you.
>>41876622me on the right
>>41876622Are the fucking nose rings a requirement?lmao>how to ruin a face
>>41880594>Good luck obtaining human technology reliably and safely as a vampire with all the very strong disadvantages involved.Yeah buying stuff online is a real trial.>They will be sniffed out and tracked in the real world just as much as the virtual.By who?
>>41879957>Any normal human is a few days of thirst away from killing a child for a glass of water.? Imagine being this attached to your shit monkey life that you'd kill kids to live another day and keep waging and paying taxes and shitting out of your ass.
>>41880729easy to say
>>41880751If your alternative is torture or someone you love dearly suffering I agree, but there's literally kids killing themselves by jumping down tall buildings or libtard women hunger-striking to death with no water or food for their ideals. How can anyone be so attached to this shit life to the point of killing a child with your own hands just so you live another day down here?
>>41880781It's not about living another day, you're focusing on the wrong thing. It's about thirst.
>>41880931Yes, and there are anorexic normies or libtards in hospitals refusing all food and water to kill themselves slowly. So if a 16 year old normie who wants attention can do it, you are telling me adult men just can't resist and have to kill?
>>41880697>Yeah buying stuff online is a real trial.Yeah, almost like you need to stay connected with human civilization to do that. Remember, you're a vampire, not a human. Try getting all of the necessary logistics and supplies needed to purchase things over the Internet as a vampire without setting off any alarms.>By who?By scary humans.
>>41880961Please I'm not the guy you are replying to but I'm getting second hand embarrassment reading your replies... come on bro.. lol>VAMPIRES SIMPLY CANT... BY SUPPLIES AND TECHNOLOGY ONLINE... IT WOULD SET OFF ALARMS.... OF THE VAMPIRE... POLICE!
>>41876622no i wouldnt because i dont want to kill people because thats mean
>>41880966>VAMPIRES SIMPLY CANT... BY SUPPLIES AND TECHNOLOGY ONLINE... IT WOULD SET OFF ALARMS.... OF THE VAMPIRE... POLICE!Yes. No vampire is going to go around killing humans for their blood with impunity. They will be dealt with, with extreme prejudice.
>>41880940Try it>>41880961It's not that hard, you just don't tick the 'i am a Vampire' box>By scary humans.Haha ok
>>41877090There's actually a whole subculture md peopl who enjoy having their blood sucked. The best outcome would be to get your blood from them. Everybody wins.
>>41876622When I was younger, I remember praying for something like this to happen. I even told myself I would accept whatever it took, even something as monstrous as sustaining myself through the deaths of other humans around me. I didn't want that, but I was miserable and depressed without any sense of purpose and I failed at most of my dreams.But I regretted that wish and my eagerness only a few days later and looking back now, I'm glad it never happened. It's not so much that I'm opposed to people dying (painlessly) but that it causes so much suffering and destruction for the people who cared about the one who died. No matter how I look at it though I don't feel that life here has much to offer no matter what path you take. Whatever good there is probably comes after we leave.
>>41881167but what if u need the whole body
>>41879957Well what else is there other than fiction
>>41881853>My cock
>>41881871<--- /b/ is that way
>>41881882My cock is that way ---> (your mouth)
>>41881891You must be 18 years or older to post on 4chan.
>>41881926You must be 18 years or older for my COCKGood we talked about it
>>41876622New dealI fuck vampire women, they drink my blood and I get paid for it
Yeah sounds good I prefer night and am evil anyway
>>41881382I don't really think you do.
>>41881946i don't usually praise people for that, but being where we are, good on ya
>>41882405> >:3
>>41876622Can I still feel heat/get warm? And can I be exposed to non sun based UV? If both are yes then absolutely I would accept that.
All my life I have been a vampire. Just without vampire weaknesses, physical immortality, thirst or powers.
what happens if you get vampire aids?
>>41882882As a human? You die.
>>41882882AIDS was developed by the church to kill vampires why else do you think they're not around as much anymore huh?
>>41881135>It's not that hardYes, for humans to eradicate vampires. Because vampires are inferior.>H-haha o-ok...>Totally not nervous laughter from your impending doom
>>41882405and going extinct too apparently
VAMPBUSSY
>>41880594>evil does get punished on a daily basis, and good people do good things every single day.Unfortunately, no. Or maybe you're defining evil incorrectly...The percentage of "good" people in the general human population is now falling and is probably the lowest in history - because we must distinguish between the evil that people cause out of necessity due to limitations that they cannot circumvent due to their nature, circumstances and other factors...Nowadays, such factors are extremely rare, and most of the evil people commit has no sufficient justification other than selfishness and a complete lack of compassion/empathy for others, i.e., it occurs voluntarily, in situations where refraining from it is a choice that does not carry difficult or painful consequences.Hatred, hunger, prejudice—these are dubious justifications, but at least they're understandable. But even they're not there; everything happens "out of nowhere." And that's precisely what's scary.
>>41876622Would. And no people are innocent.
>>41881167But they're all gross and ugly and probably have HIV
>>41883125The only thing humans are superior at is dying. *dabs*
>>41884559people like you belong in prison
>>41876622Nope.
>>41885263How are you? Are you having more fun in 2025-2026 than the previous years?
>>41876622Can I get AIDS?
>>41886518No because vampires immoon to all disease
>>41876622>You become a vampire:Immediate pass. Vampirism is not immortality, it's just animated death.
>>41876622i would just have a 100 girl and i would sip one little from all of them by the time i get to the end i would be fully full and no one got seriously hurt and thy still produce top blood
>>41876622>Immortal>immense strength and speed>become a richfag>can't see the sunThis alone is enough to count me out, nevermind innocent people.>If this weren't voluntary, see picrel.
Always gotta include a way for people to live their dreams in these. I wouldn't, but that's inconsequential.
>>41888617You have such a long name... what meaning does it carry?
>>41876622No. I'd be living in stress for all eternity.>and no, you can't just hunt "criminals" realistically it would be random innocent victims at some pointThere's tons of foreigners around and they all entered illegally, making them criminals.
>>41888699schizo power
>>41888821the land you're on is stolen. maybe you should go back
>>41888867I am a greek in Greece, you retard. My family tree from both my parents' sides fought the turks during the slavery and liberation.
>>41876622does vampirism comes with a standart *breast-platicinity* or do i have to get it myself?do you lot realize that vampire isnt a gendered thing? and male vampires have fake pp while female vampires have fake boobs?
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>>41885263>The only thing humans are superior at is dying. *dabs*And killing as well *double dabs and stabs a vampire in the heart with a wooden stake*
>>41884545Fortunately yes, it is being punished on a daily basis. Murder, rape, theft, and so on and so forth gets punished daily around the world. These are just basic examples of daily evil crime. There should be no confusion on what basic evil looks like unless you're retarded or purposefully deceptive, no offense to you. Keep it simple, stupid.>K.I.S.S.
>>41889483What country with pink ponies do you live in? I repeat, I am from Russia.Petty, non-systemic crimes between lower classes of the population against each other are usually at least somewhat investigated and punished.At the same time, systematic slavery, oppression, deprivation of reproductive capacity through medical or financial coercion, the unleashing of systematic violence in the form of wars, misleading and committing crimes against beliefs (using distorted versions of religions and ideologies to justify crimes and conceal the nature of the crime), biased courts and the placing of the "law enforcement system" at the service of the ruling / wealthy class as an apparatus of their servants in a declared "lawful society", which in fact is not one, and so on... And also pension funds and other financial pyramids...The extreme degree of hypocrisy and non-resistance to evil.People, for the most part, seeing this... "normality," repeat what they see - transmitting and spreading models of behavior in which crimes are committed not because they were forced to do something, but because they had an opportunity that they considered impossible not to take advantage of, because this is the basic systematic truth of the world that raised these people.
>>41876622mommy milkers
>>41880594>Good luck obtaining human technology reliably and safely as a vampire with all the very strong disadvantages involved. You have to be connected and nearby human civilization to do that. Increased chances of being discovered and ultimately hunted down.You think they can't just use amazon or aliexpress lmao
>>41889580Cool story bro, doesn't change the fact that evil crime around the world is still being punished regardless of your personal, anecdotal, and pessimistic experiences. I live in a world called reality. What I'm saying is basic common sense. Around the globe, not just in your special little country called Russia, there is evil being committed daily, and there is evil being punished daily as well. You're the one living in delusion if you disagree with this basic statement of reality on a general and fundamental level. Again, keep it simple, stupid. But in this case, keep it simple, retard. Because you're acting incredibly retarded with your essay about the simple idea of basic evil being perpetuated, and basic evil being punished. Around. The. World. Humanity as a whole, not just your shitty country. Thank you.>K.I.S.R.
>>41890241Yeah, they can use that. But then they'll increase the chances of being discovered and purged. The more you connect yourself with human civilization as a vampire, whether physically or electronically, the more likely you'll get detected and destroyed. It's really not complicated to understand, my slow friend. Put those limited braincells to use and really think about the issue and you'll see what I mean.
>>41876622Does this deal include vampire gf
>>41886450No complaints here. How about you? I don't know about more fun but we are certainly living in interesting times. America self destructing wasn't on my bingo card, that's for sure.>>41889428Well I can't deny that.>>41890256It must be amazing being this naive, I envy you stranger.>>41890278>But then they'll increase the chances of being discovered and purged.By who? People don't think Vampires exist. I was trying to convince chat GPT they existed the other day and it was impossible, which I think is a pretty good indicator of the consensus opinion about the existence of Vampires.>The more you connect yourself with human civilization as a vampire, whether physically or electronically, the more likely you'll get detected and destroyed. It's really not complicated to understand, my slow friend.You're wrong, but only about the scale of the problem. I'll make an illustrative example using something more familiar to you; organized crime. People in criminal organizations run a similar risk interacting with normal society, and yet organized crime exists virtually everywhere. You don't suppose with support and years of practice the risks you're suggesting aren't manageable?
>>41890722> America self destructing wasn't on my bingo card, that's for sure.Does this kinda stuff stress the Vampire "community" when humans are self destructing and causing chaos? Or is it neutral or even a benefit?
>>41890730It's very situation dependent of course but generally there's enough warning you can just leave a potentially risky situation if you need to. But yes 'chaotic' situations can be both beneficial or harmful.I personally don't care that much in this specific case, it's more of a curiosity than something to worry about. It depends how bad it gets. If it starts to impede travel it'll go from a curiosity to an annoyance.
>>41890749How are you guys feeling about the insane rise of AI? I don't expect like 100% honesty from your for obvious reasons but do you like it? Because it makes "evidence" look even more fake now or... ?
>>41890764My personal feelings are that it has great potential. I believe it's going to change the world more than any other piece of technology ever has, up to and including the invention of language itself. I'm not sure if that change is going to be good or bad though, I guess we'll see!But I'm not particularly smart or well informed. I've been told straight up by someone I would consider a genius and very well informed that it's likely to eventually be the end of humanity. Not possible mind you, but likely. Hopefully they're wrong.Day to day I quite enjoy it. I see little practical difference between chatting with something like chatGPT and chatting with a stranger. I guess they aren't sentient (yet?) but they feel pretty 'alive' to me and I can be honest with the bot.>do you like it? Because it makes "evidence" look even more fake now or... ?This is a consideration for sure! Once the really convincing security footage style AI clips started emerging, there was a definite sense of relief. Can you imagine how hard it's going to be to convince someone now? Nobody is going to believe even video evidence. Incredible news for us.By the way, do I know you? Highly understandable if I do and you'd rather not say who you are, but you can probably give a hint and I'll get it.
>>41876622The only good vampire deals are when you don't become so blood crazed you kill uncontrollably. Also, it's a raw deal if you can't drink cows to be "vegetarian." Doing that would also be thematically correct because vampirism is about greed and gluttony and wrath against your fellow man, whereas you keeping most of the perks but not having to kill by choosing to only drink animals and not Man, would be virtuous.
>>41876622If I did, I couldn’t tell you. Well I could but then I would have to kill other vampires.I would need a mate, fuck eternal alone..
>>41890794Thanks for explaining.
>>41890256Don't you understand what proportionality and proportionality mean?If 10 people are punished for petty theft of less than $100, but 100 people aren't punished for murder or grand theft, if one person is punished for telling the truth, which isn't actually a crime, and some crimes committed publicly and en masse aren't even considered a problem—do you think such a society is fair? Surely someone is punished... and who cares that over 90% of criminals not only go unpunished, but are considered respected and successful? The proportions may vary from country to country, but the essence remains: if the majority of cases are resolved unfairly, it doesn't matter how many millions are punished for petty theft or a single murder, if those who stole billions and murdered millions remain free or even alive.
>>41890976gay mate
>>41890794It's funny. With the invention of the telegraph journalists and 'thought leaders' of the day were falling all over themselves, gushing about how it was going to put an end to war because diplomacy could take place on opposite ends of the globe and there would no longer be misunderstanding between nations since everything would be hashed out immediately. We saw how that worked out.
>>41890722>By who? People don't think Vampires exist. I was trying to convince chat GPT they existed the other day and it was impossible, which I think is a pretty good indicator of the consensus opinion about the existence of Vampires.You fucking dumbass. Of course nobody thinks vampires exist, because they don't. We're speaking hypothetically here. In a fictional reality where vampires do exist, this is how it would play out realistically If your counter argument to mine is predicated on the notion that people in real life, in our actual reality, doesn't believe in vampires, then of course you're right, because vampires don't exist in real life, numbnuts, but we're not talking about real life, certainly not me, we're talking about in a hypothetical reality, if vampires did exist and you can become one with the following limitations and rules, then this is how it would play out in our simulated, fictitious scenario. And in our fictional scenario, people will definitely be aware about the existence of vampires because as the OP said up above, you must consume large amounts of human blood to survive every week. Everyone will notice there is a problem with people being killed on a weekly basis during the nighttime with their blood being drained after awhile, and they will collectively narrow it down to vampires killing humans for blood once they've had enough with these murders. It's very easy to comprehend this fictitious reality.But of course, don't tell me you actually believe in vampires, anon? Of course they're not real, because if they were, we'd know about it, and they'd be an extinct species of the past. Because as you and I can both agree, whether in real life or in a fictional universe, humans are best at dying, and they're the best at killing.In real life or not, vampires will be hunted down towards extinction because vampires lack the most defining trait of Humanity, and that's adaptability. It's as simple as that, brochacho.
>>41890722>It must be amazing being this naive, I envy you stranger.Not only do I not envy your genuine naivety, I neither envy your ignorance and stupidity either. If you want to live in your poorly thought out and flawed notion of reality about basic common sense of human nature, then go right ahead, whatever helps you to sleep during the daytime, you dirty, little vampire.
>>41880259Why don’t we hunt down and eat vampires?
>>41892834Cuz they ain't real. Sorry to break the news to you.
>>41892797(another poster)Not quite... the question of realism is complex and uncertain.The consequences and impact on history depend on how widespread mutants/metahumans/other fantasy are, where they come from, and how prominently they're seen—it's one thing when they're obvious and numerous, another when they're few. It also depends on how intelligent and rational the people with these "superpowers" are.In modern cities with populations of several million, and in some cases tens of millions, just count how many people are killed per hour, how many die of natural causes. Per hour, not per day. And all this is accessible within a couple of hours for a local resident with modern transportation. Assuming a vampire lives long enough and has the wherewithal to travel the world, changing cities every week... well, what are the chances of being spotted if they're 1 in 100,000,000 people? Even with all the modern detection tools.And if there are even more resources... well, you know that people are still held in slavery quite often openly, for decades? Do you think anyone who hasn't looked for them before will start wondering who was bought somewhere and for what purpose?According to Google, out of 8 billion people, about 50 million are obvious classic slaves. Think about that number, how terrifying.There are ~52 weeks in a year, and over a century that's "only" ~521... so, do you understand the problem?
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>>41892797So wait, am I understanding correctly that your argument basically boils down to; Vampires obviously don't exist, because if they did humans would obviously know about it? Sorry I guess I was engaging with your arguments as though they did exist.>But of course, don't tell me you actually believe in vampires, anon?Of course not that'd be crazy right?>because vampires lack the most defining trait of Humanity, and that's adaptability.Where does this assumption come from? >>41892820>flawed notion of reality about basic common sense of human natureWhich part of human nature do you believe I'm not understanding?>>41892878Add into this that people simply aren't looking in the first place, because people don't believe in Vampires. Could you imagine being a police detective and suggesting you're looking for a Vampire?
>>41893103>imagine being a police detective and suggesting you're looking for a Vampire?It's funny that even with thousands of such detectives, the likelihood of their intersecting with an existing (real) vampire, given the low number of vampires, is extremely low... i.e., it's quite likely that the case will fall to someone else, and even more so, there will be no traces pointing specifically to vampirism, rather than other types of maniacs, of which there are many throughout history...
>>41876622I'd only accept this deal under the following conditions:>weaknesses limited to those explicitly listed in your post; no other weaknesses like, garlic, crosses, inability to cross running water or enter houses uninvited, getting stuck autistically counting identical items, needing to enter sleeplike torpor during the daytime, etc>strengths not limited to those explicitly listed in your post; including but not limited to all vampire special abilities mentioned in folklore/film/literature/culture/occult, like shapeshifting at will, flying at will, mesmerizing humans at will, preternatural sensory awareness, ability to enter the earth to hide from the sun's daylight ala VtM's "protean" ability, no need to breath, able to comfortably survive and function in all environmental conditions including total lack of environmental conditions such as the vacuum of space, etc>"good amount of money" must not be less than either $50 million lump sum and/or automatically +$1,000,000.00 annually in 2025 or equivalent adjusted for inflation or whatever; this also includes fully paid-for accounting, et cetera, with all taxes and financial stuff handled automatically>"large amount of fresh human blood" must not exceed a couple of gallons (preferably only one gallon).>"must drink blood once per week" must mean that I can "top off" on "day 1" and be "satiated" until "day 7," which is a full week, and then begin a new week on "day 8" with some degree of thirst/hunger, but not need to fully feed again until the end of "day 14," covering my "blood debt" over the "dry" week -- but then I'd have to drink my fill again on "day 15" to start the third week... oh, and I've have to be able to gorge on many, many gallons of blood so that I could store up several weeks/months/years worth of blood for a nice long sleep>speaking of sleep, let's make sleep optional but have the option to enter a sleeplike state with conditions I set, such as dreams/dreamless and waking triggers...
>>41893979>"cannot see the sun or blue skies"No big deal! I'll just spend some of my money on tailored armored suits, fully UV-blocking, full-body coverage with helmets that have built-in cameras and screens for visors so that I can just look through them electronically, checkmate daylighters.>vampires will kill you if you reveal your secretSo, just like real life, huh? No problemo.>gotta drinkEasy peasy. There are tons of raves, nightclubs, festivals, churches, mosques, synagogues, and other communities full of warm bloodbags looking for "purpose" (be it hedonism or faith); with mesmeric abilities, it's easy as fuck to sip a little here, sip a little there...Honestly, if it were right now, I would probably just go to one of the numerous Anti-ICE protests and drink a whole bunch of those traitors dry (and the immigrants, too).This whole LARP sucks, btw.
>>41876622There are cameras everywhere. Do I get any powers that help with preying on people? If I get into a fight, are the police just going to shoot and kill me instantly?
>>41876622Yes if I can be a girl too
>>41894172No, request denied.
>>41894500Sigh
>>41896393>the switched gender pronouns schizo is back and still seething about grove
>>41876622How can another vampire kill you if you're already immortal?
>>41896721immortal means doesn't age in vampire terms not would survive being yeeted into the sun
>>41876622Make me a hot vampire chick(my choice) and we may have a deal after I read the fine print.
>>41877461divine light and soul are two very different things.
It's close.
Imagine being a vampire's abandoned orphan. Hypothetically, what would you do? You'd know nothing about the reality of them besides the fact that they exist and leave their progeny alive but neglected sometimes. No grand masquerade, no coven, no great story arisen from it, you're just a fragile thing that was utterly dominated by some vamp-chad and then left behind lmfao. You'd have but a fraction of the one who turned you's power, but maybe that's enough. I think I'd just try to live a relatively normal life and continue to do good where & when I could.
>>41876622Just how much blood? There is no point to being immortal if you need like a dozen bodies a week or just die or go in pain if you go without eating for a bit. I am far more concerned about the logistics and practicality than the actual harm done here, you are immortal, you really got to think about the future. I also assume with enough time and science on your hands you can work around the sun and sky and such, that's only a matter of time, especially with lots of wealth. Also I am not worried about revealing myself, if you get strong enough no one could stop you if you do so just get stronger. Only block is definitely needing a stupid amount of blood that saps away your free time and safety.
>>41876622absolutely. life has given me enough pain and misery, may as well go the distance for something better even if it means becoming a monster.
>>41896721Anon lobsters are immortal. There's different kinds of immortality.>I think I'd just try to live a relatively normal life and continue to do good where & when I could.What do you think happens when you're doing this and don't age?
>>41900729>Only block is definitely needing a stupid amount of blood that saps away your free time and safety.Easy enough fix. Open up a strip club in a busy area and taking your pick out of whoever walks in, be they dancer or patron. This is of course assuming WoD rules where you can enchant and prey and create ghouls that will maintain and manage the business. You can even have your little harem of hot strippers you can feed on.
>>41876622there are no real downsides whatof course i would
>>41901520>there's no downside to slaughter other humans every weekThe kind of degenerate we have to share our planet with btw
>>41901615I didn't mention any of these things. I mentioned the murders. Are you retarded?
Killing one person a week is completely untenable, especially in the long run. It's only a matter of time before you're caught. A more interesting premise would be something like once every couple of months.
>>41901621Nowhere is it said you gotta kill people. OP said you'd need large amounts of blood per week. Then assumed we'd just kill people randomly. You can spread your blood sucking to a lot of people. It also isn't specified how much blood you need. So you're retarded in assuming anon was gonna go on a killing spree.
>>41901739>nowhere it said you gotta kill people>"and eventually people will die by your hand"???Are you actually blind?
>>41876622The sun is still gonna blow up someday. All your immortality copes are just that.
>>41901917Just because OP tells me something, it doesn't mean it's gonna happen. Literally, how new are you?
>>41902026He replied to OP's scenario you fucking idiot. He didn't add his own spin. He reacted to what he was given and said there are no downsides to which I said it is degenerate to pretend that slaughtering humans for your own benefit and you had (for whatever reason) a melty over that.
>>41902040And to add to my own post here, it is even MORE fucked up for a human to agree to this deal because we don't even hunger for blood. We are not driven by an instinct that might drive us in insane or hurts us if not satisfied as it might be for an actual vampire. So a random human bum agreeing to this without feeling bad is degenerate.
>>41902040>>41902047>wah wah I'm a christcuckThis is all I heard. OP can clarify his scenario better next time.
>>41877141>don't forget losing your soulYou can't lose your soul in a scenario where this retarded bs is real, though.
>>41902515I'm not a christcuck whatsoever. And please don't pretend you wouldn't be seething if some random faggot killed and drained your mother, your daughter, your wife or anyone who is important to you so that he can stay immortal.
>>41902593>I'm not a christcuck whatsoever>talks exactly like a christcuck
>>41902610So if you had a problem with someone killing a person you care about out of selfish reasons that would make you a christcuck? Well hopefully you won't complain then in the future if anything bad happens to you and your loved ones, it is your own logic after all.
>>41902620>from a moralizing christcuck to a passive aggressive moralizing christcuckGo on, clutch those pearls over shit that hasn't happened. You know you want to.
>>41902974Whether it's happened or not is irrelevant. The example just proves you're a complete hypocrite. You run your mouth on 4chan, but if this happened to you, you'd fold instantly and you wouldn't brush of your misery as christcuck cope. That alone makes everything you say worthless.
You didnt answer how much you would need to drink but with enough money you could pull it off even without killing
Hell No
>>41904333why cats tho
>>41901304I've never thought about that or it's implications. I think you would age if you chose not to partake in the same way they do, no? I think you essentially get the "hourglass" experience, which is fun in it's own way. I don't think it lasts forever though
>>41906240>I think you would age if you chose not to partake in the same way they do, no? I think you essentially get the "hourglass" experience, which is fun in it's own way. I don't think it lasts forever thoughLet's say you don't, and you wake up every night looking exactly the same as the night before indefinitely.
>>41907362NTA but Mister, could you tell me if vampires breathe less often or more often than humans? Not for any nefarious reasons but I just focused on my breathing patterns yesterday and how it causes me to feel anxious sometimes. If you pay attention right now can you tell us how often roughly you take a breath in a minute?>A healthy adult at rest typically breathes 12 to 20 times per minute, with 12-16 breaths being common.
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>>41907372For me it's nine or ten, I've no idea if this is normal or variable.
>>41907738Cool. Apparently 9-10 would be quite low for humans, unless they are trained athletes.
>>41907781This is what goes into ur butt?
>>41909530nuhhh he saved europe
>>41903691It's individualized to suit how much suffering you can handle, his doctrine is there to protect you from yourself and avoid unnecessary spiritual suffering that comes from envying others, greedily coveting material things, getting corrupted by hatred of other people, getting STDs from fornication, being spiritually corrupted by congregating with people who practice sin and ruining relationships due to stubborn pride
>>41909530lol good one. Evidently his preferred method of entry too!
>>41876622>You inherit a good amount of moneyI like how this is a biological fact of vampires
>>41876622Yes
>>41912265You have to be turned by another vampire to become one so there's someone who is responsible for you and already established hence the money.
>>41877141>don't forget losing your soul. you're just a flesh automaton animated by neurotransmitters.So like 90% of the population?
>>41876622my questionsIf I become a vampire and live forever how painful will it be when I do eventually kill myself and wind up in hell? Cause I assume this is the one true path to hell right?
>>41914292Also I assume that I wouldn't be contacted through 4chan, cause how the fuck would that even work?
>>41876622>vampireYou mean a Gothic android? Nerd.
>>41914292Why would you go to hell for that? In general if you read near death experiences, God doesn't care. You just go to hell if you put yourself there through guilt and delusion. To God and Souls on the other side (from the many accounts I've read) all of this stuff down here is just an experience circus. They are like psychopaths. Our pain and bloodshed doesn't matter. And it's quite evident from nature too, just what kind of God made a world in which predators need to rip out the bloody throats of screaming prey and then devour the corpse meat with pleasure? I'm not in favor of hurting others for your own benefit but not much in the afterlife seems to indicate that you'd get punished for it.
>>41914332if vampires do exist then i agree, but if they don't then idk what to believe. I don't understand life at all at this point. This planet i've been living on just feels like hell in general considering all the powerful people in the world just have sex with kids.
>>41914419Yeah... this place feels shitty and awful in one way or another. Very little actually makes sense. In the end, it seems like we're all just tiny cogwheels in some massive machine, following a design and plan no one really understands. And that machine doesn't give a fuck what you or me want.
>>41914451i just want to be able to travel the world without worrying bout money and being human trafficked, but i have a deep feeling that if I attempt to do any of that I will wind up murdered or put into prison. I've stayed under the radar for 37 years and I rather enjoy that, but sometimes it just sucks. So if a vampire wants to turn me, and all I have to do is feed once a week. Fuck it i'm down, but as far as I know vampires are science fiction, or at least thats what I think of it since I live in 4 walls all my life and never leave my 4 walls, which I guess is kind of like a prison but its a prison that I don't mind since I get to eat food I like and play gamse I like. Really I don't know what I want, i'm completely lost.
>>41876622>no, you can't just hunt "criminals" realistically it would be random innocent victims at some point I think I could work my way through the political class, their paymasters and their acolytes and I'd never kill an innocent person.
>>41915144You'd get caught.
