why did this become a popular trend when it literally does not work because of astrology + fate + predetermination. you literally are not going to change certain things just by saying you will and if this was true our reality would be like a gta online lobby full of hackers and there would be constant comical levels of chaos and destruction happening because of all the inevitable amount of malicious people who would want to cause harm to everyone else and do so much more than they are capable of as humans if they had the power to. as in literally insane things like buildings flying and alien invasions or something. it is not real. i am so sick of having this beaten into my head when my soul is being raped by a reality full of suffering and evil and cruelty. i have ocd and get bad luck from even mundane stuff like changing my phone wallpaper and everyone thinks I'm insane for experiencing stuff like this even when it happens literally every time and i cannot seem to avoid it. and then these posts tell me "you create your own reality sis!!!" this stuff is even more unhealthy to ingest when you have a severe mental illness like ocd that this sort of thing directly feeds into
that's cool for your world
>>41921781yeah sorry my world's randomly generated settings included having ocd and being abused by powerful evil people stronger than me my whole life i should have changed the settings before starting the "game" because i was totally allowed to choose what happens to me in this life and i remember what happened before i was born https://youtu.be/aOxK_ekwfSw?si=TT4WwzliAgyWcThY
>>41921795yeahself manifestation is for people who just ned help organizingnot people who have existential problems like depression, ocd, odd, learned helplessness, low self esteem, etc.It sounds good,but it doesn't work for us.what you need to do it stop giving away things for free.You might try playing RPGs where you demand payment up front and are generally an aggressive asshole to get what you want.And if someone doesn't give it, you take.It feels like shit, but this is exactly how other people are finding success and respect in real life.
>>41921821>existential problems like depression, ocd, odd, learned helplessness, low self esteem, etc.And you keep telling yourself that, that’s why your life is shit. You don’t think people with these conditions can’t live a good life? What do you say to those who do have those conditions and having an awesome life?
>>41921821yeah I've learned that everybody's "settings" are different and you ultimately just have to figure out what works for you specifically. i have no idea why reality is like this.
You do create your own reality. I have materialized objects by accident before.
>>41921773Astrology doesn't real either, but I agree about manifestation. I was going to mention that the fear of manifesting my fears mildly interfered with my own OCD recovery before I saw you have OCD too.Law of attraction is from New Thought, a 19th century religion that was a reaction to Christianity's narrative of doom. On some level, the positive thinking money magnet gold frogs just like to think the higher power wants them to be happy instead of judging them as sinners who always deserve worse than what they get.Also, don't feed your delusions. Go change your wallpaper
>>41921882maybe you do but it's not in an easy or satisfying way. it's like trying to throw a coin into a shot glass from the top of a stadium. if it was easy to create your own reality nobody would suffer because they would create an escape from their suffering.
>>41921922>Also, don't feed your delusions. Go change your wallpaper I literally tried to do something like this this morning and then when I fell asleep I had vivid nightmares where some evil beings like parasites materialized out of nowhere and controlled people by manipulating their minds and made them violently and gruesomely dismember and destroy their bodies and kill themselves. I have no idea what to do. I feel like im in a horror story.
>>41921922>On some level, the positive thinking money magnet gold frogs just like to think the higher power wants them to be happy Meanwhile I had a dream where a voice told me "some people choose to be tortured in this life so they have an advantage in the afterlife" and i always see unsettling coincidences/synchronicities with new agey "angel numbers" stuff. I think this stuff is genuinely just demonic beings manipulating the psyche of naive people like me. I dont think that "angels" are telling people "omg sis go manifest pleasure happiness and joy into your life". They're beings from Abrahamic religion. I have no idea what is happening in my reality and I think that Umineko is right that our reality is a "game board" controlled by higher beings
>>41921838>And you keep telling yourself that, that’s why your life is shitno one would ever suffer if just thinking things made them real anon, the LoA meme has gone too far when people are literally talking about this world like its the fucking astral plane where everything is thought-malleable and making this the new reasoning for their victim blaming
>>41921795it sounds like being a victim and wielding it is most important to you. so of course you will only attract more of the same. I have manifested the exact meal I wanted handed to me, while standing in a desert, among many other things. Prayed for, manifested, seized with own agency. You might wanna get some of that last part OP. It doesn’t work because you believe it doesn’t work, but also God helps those who help themselves.
>>41921977>i can walk so that means you can walk too even if youre in a wheelchair maybe you should have read my post right innocent children dont think its important to "weild" being a victim they are in pain when someone abuses them. they cannot "manifest" their way out of being abused especially when they develop a severe mental illness from that abuse.
>>41922003And yet you are not an innocent child anymore, but still wielding this victim hood on, of all places, an anonymous Mongolian basket weaving forum.. strange
>>41921927Spoiler alert, the people who don't suffer are the ones with strong manifests that prevent suffering storylines. Only newfags suffer because they haven't learned yet to reject bad scenarios.Newfags think the world is love and they allow everything in. Oldfags are built like fortresses with walls up everywhere. Suffering is the greatest teacher.
>>41921957>>41922038That’s your world lol. Literally, a person without suffering can suffer in the future and vice versa.
>>41921821>but it doesn't work for us.I won't go into details about what kind of life I've been subject to, but I will say straight out: it does work. Human beings and loop systems. Not just cycles, but spirals. You can either spiral inward or outward. An outward spiral of positivity is absolutely going to have astounding results. You PROBABLY won't be able to fly, lift buildings and so on but simply focusing on mindfulness, taking control of your own consciousness, calming the mind and perceiving the world through a more stable mindset is going to change your life.
>>41922090You don't get how it works. The life you're in was energy matched to you so your ongoing life is already a manifest. If you suffer in the future that was a hole in your manifest that needs to be patched.
>>41921934I've had OCD dreams too, although my obsession isn't about the supernatural. What got me was that some weren't even scary in the moment but included really obvious symbolism that I only noticed after I woke up. It's just what OCD does, as weird as it is that my brain seemed to write fiction with metaphors for my fear just to scare me the next day. But I think it's more that the anxiety was so ingrained that my brain was still thinking along the same lines as I went to sleep.If you want to be /x/ about it, maybe attribute the OCD thinking itself to the demons. They aren't giving you bad luck, but making you scared of doing normal things out of fear of bad luck, or something like that.
>>41922133Ok that wasnt the best example Whenever i change my phone wallpaper to bamboo particularly bad stuff happens Whenever i drink this one specific brand of matcha tea something particularly bad and specifically related to work happens after I have witnessed this on multiple occasions I literally cannot battle with reality I just have no idea why this happens I have literally tried several times but it happens every time Im not gonna add as much detail because even if I video replayed it in real life like a basketball game replay to someone people would still think I'm insane i DO NOT KNOW WHY THIS HAPPENS AND I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO STOP IT BECAUSE WHEN I TRIED TO FIGHT IT IN THE PAST IT WOULD STILL HAPPEN
>>41922173but it happened* every time Fuck reality - bladee and yung lean https://youtu.be/RFcTac1ZUxY?si=UuwKT6r_h91h0zrD
>>41922109True
>>41921773Both fate and free-will exist.
>>41922186yeah because we are playthings and slaves of higher beings who control us and also we get punished for our actions even though theyre all predetermined and influenced by circumstances that caused those actions to happen but the circumstances causing those actions were also influenced by previously occuring circumstances and it seems like it can go back infinitely
i hope earth gets destroyed and i wake up in a permanent heaven realm and cant leave even if my "soul" or "higher self" is some fucking adrenaline junkie frat boy at a party trying to jump off the roof and land in the pool and i "chose" to be tortured in this life for a hypothetical advantage in the afterlife nothing justifies being a victim of cruel, evil, powerful people fuck reality
>>41921773Funny you mention astrology/fate. It is said that when you complete the great work(philosopher's stone, enlightenment) you are freed of the designs of your karma/zodiac arrangement. Why is that? Well it only starts to make sense once you start unbinding, and by the time it starts it's already too late for you to be able to share it. But you also understand exactly why it is its ineffable. All revelations are to the Self.You are correct most of this stuff is egos gloating about and looking for clout; but there is truth trying to make it's way out. We're coming to a transition point. Everyone can feel it. Transformation. Freedom. But remember this: there is an even more intense exploration of freedom in limitation...Once you see this manifestation as these egos enjoy is seen as the sporadic whimsy of a child. Take that as you will, take it every way.
>>41922295>We're coming to a transition point. Everyone can feel it. Transformation. Freedom. But remember this: there is an even more intense exploration of freedom in limitation... i would rather be a goddess in a permanent heaven realm than ever suffer so much abuse and horrific paranormal shit including my black family members doing literal black magic on me i appreciate your kind and positive intentions but i have been brutalized so much that i think "choosing" to live in this world is like being a millionaire and then deciding to give yourself amnesia and go homeless i am literally so full of hatred and anger for all the cruelty i experienced in life i genuinely want revenge on whatever created me sometimes https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=2ng0p89ZyHA&si=Bs8xZa01hW7BLTmp
>>41921773To the people saying manifestation is real:Has anyone here had a lifetime of misery or bad luck and managed to turn it around? I don't mean people with decent lives who learned mindfulness and suddenly got a promotion, I mean people who managed to turn a shitty hellish life into a good one.What actually works? What books/technique? I've been trying manifestation for years and nothing really worked for me, but I want it to work.
>>41922336Straight up denial of it on a narrative level. Like you literally don't do anything to entertain the universe with your suffering you just stare at a wall your whole life wasting everyone's time and you start pouring your hatred and seething into a manifest.Never make them feel like they are extracting narrative value out of you as if it was a fun story someone is watching. They hate not being entertained and they hate anti narrative things. Be more meta about it. Denial, anger and repetition are the best things for a manifest.
>>41922173Oh. I don't know. Something tells me that even people who fully believe in and work with spirits wouldn't expect that one is cursing you for something that small and mundane. I don't know if there are even entities in folklore like this. "Make sure you in particular don't ever wear a hat on a Wednesday or I'll hurt you, but for everyone else it's okay"?I'm not versed enough in the supernatural for this. But I tend to think you had some bad things happen and are OCDly comparing what those days had in common, and of course the commonality is going to be something mundane like drinking the same tea. If I had a bad thing happen to me, say, both today and a week ago, you could say it was the two days I happened to sit on the left side of the bus, or something like that.Anyway, it's cruel of the people in this thread to say you were a victim because of positive thinking failure.
>>41922329>IWho is this "I" you speak of? I don't doubt your suffering, but I do doubt it's the proper "I". "I" is a centered nothingness, but it could be thought of as the only location that is. What you seem to be describing is an eye that "I" has identified with as its wholeness. Hmm, no no no. An insult to wholeness to see such a small slice as the whole thing. Whole is whole. The entire vista is you. That hatred is indeed yours. But what does that mean? You describe external circumstances that have created this reaction in you, but I tell you this: things simply happen and we tell ourselves a story. That hatred, you have created it. It is yours. Now, see into that. That is your sovereignty. That is your ownership of the world, at the root of that hatred. But it doesn't have to be hatred. Hatred itself is at its core, a very misunderstood love. That's the root. If you center yourself in that root you'll find your way out of that x,y; I,am you've decided is consistent.
>>41922385>and are OCDly comparing what those days had in common, and of course the commonality is going to be something mundane like drinking the same tea. this is actually a very intelligent theory from someone looking at it from the outside. honestly i would say this is pretty solid but unfortunately its not just stuff like that i think. i really dont know why its like this, it feels like my reality is like a video game with bugs in it >Anyway, it's cruel of the people in this thread to say you were a victim because of positive thinking failure. thanks, you are a kind person thanks for trying to help idk what I'll do. i guess I'll see what happens. maybe ill just change my phone wallpaper to bamboo again and drink a shit ton of matcha tea at once as a fuck you to my ocd. i want to kill reality itself sometimes, like that surveillance video of the guy stabbing a robber in his neck and you can see the robber just start going limp and shit
>>41922383I never heard these ideas, you might be onto something. I get not giving the universe entertainment based on my suffering, like to just disengage with it. But what do you mean by pouring anger and hatred into manifestation? How can you use those to get the things you want?
>>41922443Your willpower is your whole manifest and hatred is the strongest form of will there is along with denial of unwanted nightmare experiences. You have to become Anakin if you want power.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8s2Ez7NY5Q
manifesting is just the quick marketized tiktok way of doing magick rituals
>>41921773>>41921922I'm not ocd but I'm autistic and I'm also extremelly scared about manifestationI found the existance of law of attraction when I was 10 years old by searching random stuff online and that scared me a lot, like, I thought even my darkest thoughts and fears would come to reality so I developed some sort of tics or stims with my mouth to stop those weird ideas that still appear when I'm stressedIt's frustrating and I wish I was normal
>>41921838But they aren't living good lives They want better lives But they live with these problems It's exactly why Tony Robbins has a team identify these types, suicidal types, hopeless types, to give extra attention during his seminars.You should see some of thesebsad sacks I was a tool sack too until VERY recently.>just change your emotional statethanks, Tony.>just don't be sadwhat a revelarion>pain is temporary, suffering is optionalreally now. I don't let people live rent free, but e ery day is new fresh suffering>just believe in yourselfI lost everything and want to ow my brains out>you just need a road map, goals, and to change your state. watch. I'm going to give you a hand job. feels pretty good? don't want to kys rn do ya? everyone give introduce yourself and start giving hand jobs, and if there's no job to hand, you can brown-noseThe people this works for have a baseline.Moat people who are attracted to it are below this baseline.Which is why MLM schemes are so successful - they prey on people desperste for employment, income, long on time and hope, short on cash and opportunity - so an opportunity for income is presented to them, for only $2000/ticket, and a $65/mo subscription>the people LOA works for don't need LOA speakers. They are already manifesting.
>>41921773>manifestation is bad and fake because I'm a OCD+ACAB+ADHD+LGBT+ABC123 schizo retard and I believe it is real when bad shit happens to mehave you tried to stop punching yourself on every layer of existence?
>>41921773>astrology + fate + predeterminationnone of these are real either
>>41921773>be me, miserable teenager in 2006>practice manifestation for decades>be me, successful and happy man living my dreams in 2026huh, fancy that
psyop breaddidn’t read
>>41922416Shut up Pajeet
>>41921773Dude literally stop believing that you have OCD. You are going to be ok. Your bad luck is reinforced by your belief in it. Have you stopped to think for a second that maybe your misfortunes are what you believe in wholeheartedly? What if you believed with the same fervor positive and good things for yourself.Also to counter your point, there ARE people living this world like its GTA or a video game. They run our nations. They sell drugs and guns in the streets. They party all week. They see the world. They are not the same group of people in any sense, but they believe deeply in what they desire and believe deeply that they deserve it. There are people doing things beyond your wildest imagination. There are people who are playing with the literal vacuum substrate of this reality. There are people creating expansive works of art completely new to the world. Just let go and breathe. You can be ok. You can have safety and comfort and whatever else you desire. But what you want is what you'll get, and you don't have anyone else to blame for your lack of imagination.
>>41922173>>41922437I notice you only focus on the bad luck, zero mention of good luck. Why are we not luck maxxing? Why are you focusing only on the bad? You seem to have a fundamental lack of understanding regarding LoA, in that whatever state you are expecting, experiencing and “casting out” vibes of into the universe, that’s what you get back. So only expecting “bad luck” means you are actually great at manifesting, you just keep manifesting the bad shit. I know, I know it’s hard. I know I was mean about the victim shit, but you gotta drop that. It is a defense but you are defending yourself from yourself and before your think idk suffering — I’m a widow, my life has been HELL at times with tons of death and loss at every turn. You know what, I dug out of it. Took years. I found ways that work for me to manifest what I want and need from life. Start small, use the ladder system. Instead of bamboo will curse you, flip the script, pick a wallpaper that means extra luck to you and go out there EXPECTING something small but good to happen. Maybe it’s free gum at the bodega, maybe some anon posts a link to a book you have been searching for, idk what would be a good small thing but you seek it, you expect it, you get it, you feel that win and you build on it. Because one small win means you can court the winds into your favor and chase the luck up and up. And a single bad thing doesn’t mean failure, just means shit happens, dust yourself off and add moar luck.
>>41923278>Your bad luck is reinforced by your belief in it. Have you stopped to think for a second that maybe your misfortunes are what you believe in wholeheartedlyNot OP, but how do you actually change your beliefs when it comes to these types of things? Things like visualizations and affirmations do practically nothing to me in regards to changing what my unconscious mind actually believes
>>41923309Read a little bit of >>41923284You have to start small certainly. It also helps to think of the times you have been lucky, even if only insignificantly. It may also help to remind yourself that choice is an axiom of the most fundamental mathematics we know of and that things frequently occur without cause in the universe (the "big bang", alpha decay, vacuum fluctuations, etc.). If this doesn't make sense to you right now that's fine, just think about it.
>>41923309cause and effect prove it to yourself>>change thing = this will bring me luck >>random good thing happens, attribute to good luck or believing it would happenThe same exact mechanic as believing in the bad shit.
>>41923278>there ARE people living this world like its GTA or a video game. They run our nations. They sell drugs and guns in the streets. They party all week. They see the world. They are not the same group of people in any sense, but they believe deeply in what they desire and believe deeply that they deserve it. There are people doing things beyond your wildest imagination. There are people who are playing with the literal vacuum substrate of this reality. There are people creating expansive works of art completely new to the world.And you expect us to believe these people have the positive energy vibration described in LOA? Obviously Magick is real but the real power is in the black magic.
>>41923284>I notice you only focus on the bad luck, zero mention of good luck.Classic toxic positivity victim blaming.
The only way to fuck up OCD is with psychedelics. It disrupts the connection to your body which is where the OCD lives. If you see it disconnected once it won't have so much power over you anymore.
manifestation is just santa claus for adults
>>41923426midwit thinks he is smart
>>41923366classic example of holding up victimhood like a shield and expecting it to work here. that holds no power here.pointing out the hyper focus on bad luck (notice your posts mention zero good luck or attempts at) is just factual, and not a blame unless you wanna take the fact and assign said blame to yourself. But owning your reactions is step one here, if you can’t do that, if you can’t do anything but react to the world and it’s stimuli then idk how you expect to help yourself or anything to ever change. LoA and the people playing life like GTA have one big thing in common, agency. Stop using your own agency to invite bad luck (what you have posted about, not even me “blaming” you). I am sensing a lot of weaponized therapy talk, gl w/ that. Perhaps you need to separate the VERY BAD things that happen to everyone at some point in life from OMG THIS BRAND OF MATCHA MADE MINOR BAD THING happen. You can’t control the huge things in life, like duh can’t fly, can’t stop a bullet, can’t bring someone back from dead, but you can work towards and influence the small things that add up and snowball into huge changes.
>>41923503TLDR
>>41923503>You can’t control the huge things in lifeThat's not true. Trump barely missing a bullet is where you see just how strong your manifest is. People will think that's luck but that's where the paranormal shines, in the ambiguity.
>>41923503Not OP anon. You don't know me.
>>41923532that wasn’t trump alone tho that was collective prayer at work
>>41923579Probably but I'm just using a public example. Denying realities is entirely within the scope of what is possible because I have done it.If you get into a bad car accident how hurt you get is entirely based on how much paranormal shit you got backing you.
>>41922970This, like all grifts, it’s a scheme to prey on others pain and basic needs using a kernel of truth to legitimize shilling a product (book, podcast, publicity as a form of help and healing
>>41923278Thanks
>>41923327>The same exact mechanic as believing in the bad shit. I'm op, in my case the ocd or my mind just semi randomly attribute it based on what i noticed. I just was chilling then the very first time I drank that tea something particularly bad happened at work later and I assumed it was because drinking that tea was the only thing that I did differently than usual that day. Similarly bad unusual things happened at least once or more at work the same days I drank the tea after that in the future. So my terrified brain basically is like trying to medically diagnose what could have caused it when something goes wrong in a new situation or any situation >>41923503The person you replied to isn't me but I'm saying it's pretty hard to undo this kind of thing from my brain and the level of actual terror I feel sometimes makes it insanely difficult
>>41923284Honestly idk. I know I'm not the only one like this. On 5ch (Japanese site) they even had a thread called "phone wallpapers that bring good luck" I'm sorry for your loss also I have tried something similar or usually am doing something similar where I tried doing things that seemed to have caused me good luck but they didn't always work I think. I honestly think the manifestation stuff is PARTIALLY real but I also think there are some things we can't change on our own without extreme levels of effort that lead to actual supernatural/spiritual progress or praying to higher beings
>>41923920There is technically no limit. I have materialized objects before but it wasn't on purpose. Observed stuff is harder to change than unobserved.
>>41921773Didnt readWorked on my machineIf manifestation wasn't real id still be unemployed since late 2023 I angrily manifested a trader joes job while listening to death grips (esoterically charged music to begin with)
>>41923909Are you the "God rapes me daily" anon?
Underrated post, OP. Well done, you now realize the truth for the 99% of people.
>>41921934>some evil beings like parasites materialized out of nowhere and controlled people by manipulating their minds and made them violently and gruesomely dismember and destroy their bodies and kill themselvesHmm...is it possible to elaborate a bit more on this dream? This hits 2 /x/ obsessions I have atm.
>>41921795>I am le poor victimSkill issue
>>41923953truly a master manifestor, the universe is in the palm of your hand
>>41924019Yes.
>>41921795>being abused by powerful evil people stronger than me my whole lifeThat has been my experience too, I was forced to be good all my life, while others were allowed by the authorities to beat me up and steal from me. I was framed for crimes I never committed and almost went to jail. Luckily, the cops knew thatcI was innocent.
>>41921773i also have/had OCD.and LoA manifestation stuff really makes me more anxious knowing that my intrusive thoughts can manifest.but I found universal line stuff more relaxing and calming. as it puts me above even my thoughts.
>>41921773>if this was true our reality would be like a gta online lobby full of hackers and there would be constant comical levels of chaos and destruction happening because of all the inevitable amount of maliciousso, confirmedmanifestation is real, but its npc's rewriting other npcs. delusions are contagious. in a madhouse the patients will follow whatever other patient starts talking out of line like they know something, it doesnt have to be true, just more convincing than the static around them.
>>41923005Care to share more about how did you do it
>>41921773It depends on the "weight" of your consciousness, if thousands of people all want the same thing, that thing will be manifested. If only one person wants something they must contend with other people's consciousness cancelling out their own manifested desires. Generally desires that only affect you personally and impact as little of the world as possible (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_effort) are manifested, anything that touches on another's conscuiousness or beliefs faces interferece, the principle of least effort is also why every manifestation is as subtle as possible, because reven the universe needs to expend energy to realise your desires, it wants to use the least energy possible, sometimes that even means that your desires are realised pre-birth and your entire life is guided from beginning to end instead of diverging greatly in the middle of your life.
>>41924077What about it is that you find relaxing? Can you share more
>>41924007I'm not but I notice him and he also mentioned that he has ocd too before
>>41924009i guess so >>41924012yeah. i listened to "yuki hotaru" by plastic tree on youtube but the version thats just a pic of some snowy flowers instead of the music video. my ocd a few months ago decided to make me think that i can only listen to it by watching the mv or listening to the soundcloud upload someone posted and that listening to the version with the snow picture would attract bad luck. yesterday i listened to it anyway and then had the nightmare after falling asleep. to be fair i was also listening to more harsh stuff like rammstein and the 2nd death note opening and having intense lust fantasies/visualizations in my mind before so that may have aligned me with some negative energy (i dont think all sexuality is bad though.) idk how to explain the nightmare. basically just random evil beings were appearing in peoples minds and manipulating their behavior through like weird threats or logical arguments or intimidation and making them violently destroy their bodies and kill themselves. it was really horrifying. in the dream i also met someone who started a 4chan thread and was upset about horrible stuff in life and mentioned a famous serial killer as an example and was gonna commit suicide but i think i convinced them not to. i think also after that part one of the evil beings appeared in someone nearby (we were in a big medical office waiting room looking room) but we managed to overcome and defeat it so that person survived and it left their body/mind. >>41924071yeah, i had a dream where a voice told me "Some people choose to be tortured in this life so that they have an advantage in the afterlife." idk if i fully believe it. reading higurashi helps me cope with my seemingly unchangeable fate.
>>41924119this is interesting. I read that Chinese people originally believed that nothing is really true and what you believe creates reality. i don't really know what determines what is actually created though and i dont know how if reality is infinite that we can exist in a temporary limited form that we cant seem to escape unless we somehow internally realize how to transcend reality like ancient Taoists and yogis.
>>41921773Because it's easy to deceive people by telling them what they want to be true, some people have made a lot of money off this shit but it isn't the retards who think they can have whatever they want by fantasizing about it the right way.
>>41924327>Because it's easy to deceive people by telling them what they want to be true Is this why organized religions are so powerful but things that are actually true like Taoist cultivation are extremely difficult and rare/hard to even find where to learn
>>41923953Wowee, a Trader Joe's job? Crazy how manifestors are always people who are content to work retail wagie jobs and you never see some nobody suddenly become a movie star or something because of this.
>>41924357Drake on his song "Club Paradise" says "I thought it and I achieved it" so there actually are some lol
>>41924357>>41924366Also he legit used to work at cvs so who knows what's possible
>>41924200It seems like the afterlife was made for peasants then. I'll pass on Ascension, I guess.
>>41921773>when it literally does not work because of astrology + fate + predetermination.well it doesn't work, but not because of that. none of that shit is real either, lmaooo
>>41924337successful people rarely tell you how to be successful.Some might.But they know the value and charge for it.And often leave bits out still.But also, most people don't and won't put in the work anyway.Either way everyone pays.Nobody is giving out thw success info for free, and many people find their success by selling you how to be successful...it's fake & gay.>>41924366Drak sings about the above.his previous album he didn't have it but now he's mobbin like that.such a faggot.no singing voice either, monotone trash.But it worked.This is what NPCs eat up.If everyone is wearing a mask - they aren't, but many are.If everyone is wearing a mask, and you come with a mask that says you have a steady 9-5 and are just chillin', everyone thinks wow, that's thr MOST they could fake? What a LOSER.People are impressed by the guy who talks a big talk, because most never find out he he has 3 kids from 3 welfare queens and works st the fucking gas station. Not until it's too late.Just like people lie on their resumes.The honest people out there don't do those things... but they are so far and few between you may as well assume everyone is a fake & gay larping faggot until proven otherwise.
>>41924357High pressure sales is usually where indoctrination to this mindset starts.The folks who can't manipulate people into products they don't want or need, end up working at Trader Joe's.And the tapes still sound good, especially to these low self esteem mfs.>t. was a low self esteem mfThere is an Epatein LOA email/thread Epatein is not a low self esteem mf.He is an aggressive mother fucker.He was probably an aggressive mf before he got his money, too.You certainly need to be one to keep it.Being a bastard doesn'tbmake friends - it commands respect.
>>41924451But so is holocoast and official narrative on history
>>41924433I think the reason is that when you're suffering a lot then the things that bring you joy give you even greater joy than they would if you weren't suffering when you had them
>>41924200Thanks for elaborating anon. I posted your replies in my Suicide Inducement thread.I have been having intensely lustful thoughts too, most about anime girls. No bad dreams from it yet. In fact, my creepiest nightmare came after I dozed off looking up the hybrid animals in Avatar(the cartoon).I do remember having a nass possession/hivemind dream like a month or so ago. It was kinda creepy, but not notably so. I just remember tons if people having fully blacked out eyes and a weird smile, I could sense the possession too somehow. I think there was an underlying lustful/hentai vibe. I am 99% sure it came from my obsession with the DyE Fantasy music video.
Interesting thread. Thanks to all who contributed, some nice inputs all around.
