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Continuing from last thread. heres what we know:

So the streamlined version;

1. Gino Yu (polyu professor) is one of the main people conducting research into Special Abilities.

2. Gino Yu created and organized teams of scientists, both in private and government sectors, globally. He did this to locate people with "special abilities".

3. Gino Yu developed a 5 stage (?) model that tracks the depth of Special Ability, and also trauma.

4. Gino Yu seems to hypothesize that Sex (sexual energy?) and Trauma are directly proportional to the abilities developed.

5. Gino yu used organizations such as the Caravan Express as covers for locating "stage 3" (severely sexually traumatized people with high potential in Special Abilities) individuals

6. Epstein has a direct interest and relation to all of this. There's mention in other parts of the files about the role of Sex & Magic. One of his estates apparently had a statue of the god Pan with an erection. Gino studied into the relationship between Sex and Qi Gong.

7. Gino Yu, Epstein and the others involved in this mess, had an end goal of "using" these special abilities people. They wanted to put them into space, and coordinate them to training others into developing powers.

I found the 5 stage model. Can be found in this video at 12:13

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EV0hNYIQpw
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lmao I fucking hate you all crazy cunts. Cant wait until the reset.
You will all be happier.
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>>41943129

The 5 stage model is a model based on observations of people undergoing awakening

>Stage 1

this is just normal people. it just means functioning in basic reality unaware of anything spiritual or mystical

>Stage 2

This is the outlier stage. Artists or other people on the fringes. their reality is expanded but not exactly completly outside just basic reality. BUT they have a harder time integrating with society, which is seen as natural consequence of expanding ones horizon

>Stage 3

I call this the average /x/ poster stage. Awakening to something more than basic reality has happened. explaining the model Yu Gino says that what usually triggers it in natural setting is huge life change - shit like death of loved ones, near death experience, profound loss of some kind. Shatters your old reality, and if it expands it into a spiritual domain, the adjustment is hard especially when its not something one purues with guidance. Withotu a map, the person cant distinguish real from fake and cant care for themselves, needs psych ward, and even after more stable just cant cope with the normal wageslave life. This stage has three levels, which i like to call:

>NEET Autism sorcerer
cannot care for themselves without help of others, basicly in acute psychosis but discovering the deepest truth of the universe

>/div/ poster

has stabilised a bit and able to take care of food and shelter, trying to figure out how to live with their newly expanded reality, training a related skill possibly.

>New age influencer

has stable income doing something spirituality related

>Stage 4 and 5

the last stage of stage 3 is basicly stage 4. Stage 5 is called a mystic and mean osomeone who fully integrated their mystical abilities, and is able to succeed in all areas of life not despite but because of their new expanded reality

ngl i love the model.
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>>41943129
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYxXk3Hu24g
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>>41943201
>Stage 3

>I call this the average /x/ poster stage.
If that's the best way you could put it, it sounds like you're describing cancer lmao.
The average /x/ poster is a clueless retard, literal Stage 0.
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>>41943129
Thank you for making this thread, anon. It is a very much needed direction of research. We must understand our spiritual enemies if we ever to frustrate their efforts. I will be following this thread and others with much attention. My personal working theory is that the Epstein set were/are trying to raise an army of psychically awakened slaves they can control and use that to put their thumb on the scale of the global consciousness. The mass hysteria surrounding Covid and other events lends credence to this idea. They have the power. In order to frustrate, disable, counter, and condemn these dark powers we must first understand their mechanisms.
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>>41943201
This model does seem to make sense and it lines up with experiences I have had and people I have met. I wonder how this ties into JE's "jerky" practice. Do we think that is somehow related to the spiritual/psionic element of the group?
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so he wanted to make psychic superhumans and send em to space? for what purpose? how does this relate to his other magickal practices like sex magick and kabbalah?
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>>41947055
if i undertand it, thats the point of most stage 3. the stage 3 is the connecting point of all legit schizos, hardcore conspiracy-induced schizos, naturally occuring past/life expanded consciousness individuals and unguided occultists as well as sudden shock induced spiritual experiencers. All thats required is that the way you see reality is no longer basic concensus reality - you accept more things as real for better or for worse.

stage 3 at first is being useless autist

as one integrates the new reality more and more (which is impossible for most posters, but in general most people who go rogue into spirituality become useless too) which he suggest usually is the role of the guru or mystery school.
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>>41947133
>>41947185
>>41947148
after doing this research, im wondering how important this guy has been to Epstein. He strikes me as a very unhinged individual, like a little too stage 3 and not stage 4/5 if you catch my drift. In the yt video, he talks on a legit science conference about how he plans his business moves - talks to someone 'awakened' and they randomly say they see light when he says a plan, and thats the plan he chooses. not here to judge whether that is a valid way of strategising, but i dont think Jeff thought it was. Every email from this Yu Gino guy feels long, all jeffs responses are short and to the point.


Yu gino messages (according to j mail) jeff around 1121 times, most of it from what i see asking jeff over and over for an appointment. I feel like ive met people like him - spiritual, naive, believing everyone is their friend and not able to read the signs (that jeff wants him to fuck off). Pic rel and emails below are just examples

https://jmail.world/thread/vol00009-efta00325641-pdf?email=vol00009-efta00325641-pdf

https://jmail.world/thread/EFTA02656315?email=EFTA02656315-3

my verdicts jeff used him to locate individuals of interest, but once he saw he surround himself mostly with new age autists he politely stoped responding but still received the mails in case his (yu ginos) network does come upon someone more worthwhile.


Maybe some anons got more time but from what i gather Yu Gino was a profesor of something to do with game development, then had a sudden 'awakening; and since then has an autistic obsession about this. i feel like his intentions are pure, he just cannot read a fucking room for the life of him. I like the gist of his ideas (models cool, global nondenom network of awakening autists helping autists is also not rotten atleast not at the core).

god speed anons. I dont think this is our enemies, just misguided lucky autism.
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>>41947326
so he was just a naive retard who didn't know any better and helped epstein form a community of traumatized children to turn into his psionic goons?
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>>41947452
no, i think whatever epstein did withchildren and psionics was not this guys doing. This guy likely seemed interesting to epstein before they met due to his claims of having a network that identified psionics. Jeffrey strung him along, got to know everything there was to know, Yu Gino seems to have been pushing people onto him.

https://jmail.world/thread/EFTA02453917?email=EFTA02453917-4

>heres a cool mail i found just randomly trying to get to the end of the 1121 mails, its wait longer than you think lmao. Seems like jeff had a cool way of checking for psi abilities - unironicly something everyone can do with a friend and any social media.

anyhow seems like a person yu gino connected him to. What i think happened is jeff used his network to milk it for anyone valuable. seems like the Joscha Bach guy was invited and allowed to stay in Epsteins NY place a few times.
https://jmail.world/thread/vol00009-efta00463595-pdf?email=vol00009-efta00463595-pdf
heres just an example. i dont have the patience to go through this dilligently.

if you search for joscha on jmail 3k emails come up. he was introduced by Gino but he became the main person seems like.

>tl;dr
jeff used Ginos network to see who was worthwhile, ditched gino.

Gino saying shit about sexual abuse and the level - in gins theory/model you basicly get awakened whenever your reality shatters. In the lecture he mentions psychodelics, huge loss and near death exp, but if we just take it to the logical conclusion, its all abuse too. Jeff likely asked to gino explained how it applies in model.

Going off on just understanding the model and the basic premise - if all shock is truly equal, its not that sex abuse is special in any way. its just the earliness that mattters - gives you chance to stabilize when you are allowed instability rather than when youre already a wage. Plus due to the period of higher neuroplasticity the changes are more profound.
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>>41947541
so is this a nothingburger or did jeff do anything with this shit, like forming that previously mentioned community of psychic individuals/children?
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>>41947452
>>41947541
Basicly, spiritual paths are meant to slowly step by step expand ans shatter your reality over and over again. It requires effort, wisdom, guidance. You have to try to shatter your reality through apoplying the methods. This is done in accordance with the way the universe works, you harmonize into the shatering, more like a psychodelic experience of ego dissolution than a dissociative crash.

We could call this the Deva dharma, the dharma of the Gods of natural order.

But there is also the Asuras, the titans, the dharma which traveled/stayed in babylon. They represent not disorder but abstraction. If Devas are gods of the harmony and balance of natural universe, Asuras are abstract ideas of morality. If Shiva is Impermanence (tendency for things to change, making place for now, getting rid of whats old, its both good and bad, transcended), Vishnu is perservation (tendency for all things to try to persist, for complex systems and life to find a way) Brahma is creation ( infinite possibility of concepts ideas and interpretations)

The asuras are embodiments of ideas of Morality, ethics, democracy. The USA killing people in the name of freedom is asuric ifu catch my drift. Asuras have wisdom, but they disrespect the order, they believe they are wiser than reality.

Epstein did the asuric approach - if all we care about is powers and awakening, fuck spending effort guiding individuals - lets play it by statistics, traumatized thousands, by 18 (lets say) 10 % get powers - and you know exactly who will and you can track their mental health over time. Disgusting. but effective.

The Guru of Devas is Jupiter, the embodiment of morality in harmony with law

The guru of Asuras is Shukra, Venus, the god of hedonism and pleasure.

something to ponder
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>>41947567
Pretty sure The Boys is disclosure. Before that it was picrel about serum-turned mutants. Agents of [Roth]Shield? I think they exist but there's no telling how fantastical the 'powers' are or if it's more mental psychic stuff, let's hope it's the latter.
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>>41947662
the powers are just intuition on more or less steroids. Thats why they woudl then push them mostly into art and Hollywood. The best ones go into science. thats how they control opposition - they raise them literarly from childhood. They ensure their greatness through hardship. its actuallly very simple. its retarded because by trying to integrate spiritual paths into every day life you could get better results from most peoiple by slowly guidijng them like all civilisations did in the past. Instead they are throwing dice with trauma, seeing who and what sticks nd if someonegoes schizo, thats a life long money payer for the medical establishment
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> Sexual energy

I should have never gotten into x.

I suffer from strong OCD and all this talk about sexuel energy and what not has led me to a breaking point. To put it simple, i can not jerk of in peace anymore. I have very bad thoughts even during orgasm. And afterwards it gets worse, thinking i have manifested something bad for example. Wich only fuels the OCD. This downwards loop has caused me to become very anxious. If anyone knows more i would appreciate it greatly. To simplify my question, is there something x about orgasm etc. And can i jerk of in piece.
If you think my question is funny laugh about it. But it is really stressing me out.
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>>41947662
>>41947748
It's standard psi abilities. precognition, telepathy and astral projection
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>>41947806
You can jack off in peace. For coom to have magical mystery powers it needs a concious though and intend behind it.
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>>41948220
>This
As i said i can not controll my thoughts.
Still thanks.
But there has to be more behind it.
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>>41948259
You don't need to control the thoughts, you have to control the reaction you get from the thoughts. Why should bad thoughts make you feel bad? This doesn't need to happen, you can simply observe the thoughts without feeling anything.
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>>41947541
>i think whatever epstein did withchildren and psionics was not this guys doing
I agree 100%. I suspect (with no evidence beyond my own intuition) that Epstein represents whoever inherited the MK MONARCH research and legacy. I don't think Gino was even in the same solar system as these guys. The Church committee drove them underground. If any anon doesn't know what MONARCH was or did I encourage you to research it and look at the parallels to Epstein. They are striking.
>ritual abuse
>of children
>usually sexual
>to induce alter egos and disassociations
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>>41948259
I know ocd anon. Theres no desire or want to do the things seen in intrusive thoughts.
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>>41947806
>bad thoughts
you are the one labeling thoughts as good or bad, yes they may be disturbing, you might even think there's something wrong with you for having such spontaneous thought. Everyone has those, it is your very reaction that give them "weight" and because of the weight they stay around, orbiting, if you will. thoughts re not "yours" in the sense that they are coming from you, but they are part of the body brain complex that you inhabit, which is transitory. if there were something wrong, it would be with your body brain complex which we call "you" this is one of the misconceptions of humanity in general, the real you is not the body or the thought, this is an important distinction. Second important distinction is that thoughts operate different to physical reality. In physical reality we learn to solve problems by focusing on them and working on the solution. In the realm of thoughts things are different. You have learned to treat thoughts as a problem needed to be solved, but that's what gives them "weight". Instead you have to stop caring. Understand that the thought isn't "you", don't "try" to do anything about it, don't react to it, instead bring your focus back to self, back to the present moment. The more you practice this the easier it would become to ignore it.
Also there is nothing wrong with sexual energy, it's divine energy after all, people just want you productive but that's a whole other topic.
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>>41949124
Thats a good and nice post but not everyone has the kinds of intrusive thoughts that come with ocd.



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