Will the Afterlife compensate for people who had it bad on earth?like born with no arms, born into a horribly abusive family, extremely poor, warzones, 3rd world, micropenis, etc..or is it all just cope?also, will those who have enjoyed an amazing life, a top 0.1% life, get punished? wouldn't also that be unfair, to punish someone who's had it good through no fault of his own?also, how do karmacels deal with the fact that:>supposedly, having a wonderful prosperous life full of pleasures is a result of good karma;>to get good karma, you have to "focus on spiritual things", which are supposedly "higher" in value than the material;Then why is the reward for focusing on higher things... an amazing life full of material pleasures? how does that make sense?
>>41970386Just read near death experiences. Everyone can have whatever they want on the other side and is restored to perfect health, age and looks.As to why we even come down here? Apparently we just love creating little characters that suffer because it just gives us sooo much experience and growth. (I spit on that.)
>>41970394I've read accounts, like in books like Your Eternal Self and Cosmic Cradlebut there's too many variables, a lot of NDEs are hellish, conform to religion, others deny it and so onand they all sound very honest, like a child reporting what it saw literallyso it's all so confusing
>>41970394Do you have a single fact to back that up?
>>41970412>a lot of NDEs are hellish, conform to religion, others deny it and so onNot really. 80%+ are not hellish. They highlight and cherry pick the bad ones to shill religion, but they are not the norm.>>41970419https://www.nderf.org/Archives/exceptional.htmlOr maybe go and read a book or two about near death experiences.
>>41970412When you die its like you're on the edge of the side of a pool and "dive" backwards/headfirst. It's very quick and sudden, unexpected. You just "dive" like a quick drop out of a skydiving plane. You don't have enough time to be scared.
>>41970429I read them and zero facts.Zero.Opinions with no facts.If I wanted to find out if cars exist it’s easy.Many cars. Reliable accounts of cars. No one can doubt it.Your stories though are not so reliable. In fact they are without facts!Do you have a single fact to back any of it up?
>>41970453What do you mean zero facts? You will not get any facts of ANYTHING paranormal so what is your point? Are you retarded?
>>41970440I'm talking about experiences where you are clinically dead and then come back to life. It's what we usually call NDE, but the term is inaccurate.
>>41970386These things are all karma purification.It happens to people who have done bad things in their past lives.
>>41970541Again, that doesn't make any sense.To supposedly get good karma, you have to abandon yourself and focus on "higher" things.So why would the reward be a comfortable material existence on your next life?It's totally contradictory.If those supposedly "higher" things were TRULY superior, than good karma would actually give you MORE of that; meaning more of an incentive to practice those higher things, rather than giving you a Chad-like existence where everything is easy and gives you immediate pleasure
>>41970557>comfortable material existence on your next life?New game plus. Can you keep focused on higher rewards or will you give in and fall back down? The endgame is abandoning the physical realm for the endless Nirvana or ascension. Coming back means you're not ready yet.
>>41970557>To supposedly get good karma, you have to abandon yourself and focus on "higher" things.No. Who told you that?
>>41970440This is exactly why I went backwards when bungee jumping the first time, to not be scared.I went again immediately after face first, and seeing the drop, and putting your center of gravity over the point of no return, it was 10spook10me.Face first also happened fast.>>41970460Exactly Anon's point. There are 0 facts, and you have confirmed this. 0 facts to present.Since we have 0 facts, we can answr OP, the facts we do have, or rather don't, there is no proof of an afterlife.Only speculation.Do you get a better lot in the next life?We aren't certain there IS a next life.So, people without arms, legs, abused, brain damage, physical parasites, physical diseasesIt just is.Like a bad hand of poker.You play the cards you're dealt with the best you can.Religions talk about consequences to keep people in check.ike when you're acting up as a child and your parents remind you Santa's watching. Or they are going to tell Santa you've been bad.Same control mechanism.And it works.It can be used for good, and it helps create societies which trust one a other because they believe they are all accountable to an all knowing higher power.Sometimes religion doesn't work - plenty of third world countries with main stream religions and they stay sithole countries.So maybe religion doesn't regulate societies.There is no evidence for an afterlife though, OP. Nothing beyond this moment.You can decide if hedonism will help you.You can decide if hedging your bets and sacrificing now for potentially something better makes you happy and is worth it.You, at least get to choose.
>>41970693>There are 0 facts, and you have confirmed this. 0 facts to present.Yes, that's what PARANORMAL means. No scientific evidence or "facts" - that's a no-brainer.
>>41970386the entire idea of afterlife is cope
>>41970730It really isn't. There's even studies that confirm some psychic mediums can access information that can't be explained.
>>41970759NTA. I'm a medium and just yesterday I read a kid that was somewhere with a citadel in a healing calming space and the energy had laughing, love and joy in it. They all have different stuff.
>>41970386>or is it all just cope?Probably. Near-death experiences sound less consistent than sleep paralysis hallucinations.
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>>41970693>You can decide if hedging your bets and sacrificing now for potentially something better makes you happy and is worth it.For some of us this is not a sacrifice or a hedge of bets. Hedonism is genuinely unappealing and offers no pleasure or fulfillment. Materialism and the pursuit of monetary gain or status/power are disgusting and uninteresting. It's not a sacrifice when the ascetic lifestyle is genuinely the most appealing and fulfilling way to live for you. If that's not the case and you are doing it to "hedge your bets" then you are not doing what is right for you.
>And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
>>41970394>restored to perfect health, age and looks.you don't have a material body in the afterlife. You people really have to get past materialism
>>41971287some men are born handsome chads, live a happy life with no struggles, get forgiven and go to heaven either wayif christianity is true, it's a scam.
>>41971341You do if you want to. Also implying having a spirit body is that different? Literally just semantics at this point. Sure you don't have a HUMAN BODY, but people will describe touch or grabbing things or seeing limbs or faces so.... ?
>>41970386>micropenisFreudian slip much?
>>41971372It's not semantics. You are just an awareness, no body involved
>>41971388And yet people describe SEEING, TOUCHING and SMELLING. So they clearly have a spirit body if they want to.
>>41971396not all NDE stories are real
>>41970386its all bullshit to distract you from your own health and wealth. they consider themselves to be dragons. until the people figure their bullshit out and do a national socialism, the madness will continue.
>>41971402Astral, OBE, the same. Many experience limbs, sight, faces, smells or taste.
>>41971415Nazism is as cringe as communism. They are both ideologies where you worship the state. Everyone will die at some point
>>41970386God has attributes of justice and mercy. The attribute of justice pays people according to their deeds, but the attribute of mercy will forgive some of the bad deeds and give undeserved rewards. The payment may be made in the material life, or in the afterlife, or in a future incarnation - making it hard to track the cause and effect. However there are some simple guidelines:>why does helping someone feel better than drinking a beer? One is a heavenly pleasure and the other is an infernal pleasure. But the heavenly pleasure leads to lasting and unending happiness, and shows that happiness isn't purely a chemical reaction, but that God has created souls to feel good and prosper when they things that are good.
>>41970386>like born with no arms, born into a horribly abusive family, extremely poor, warzones, 3rd world, micropenis, etc..The people born into hard conditions probably had the karma for it - they may have done similar things when they were adults in a previous life. Also part of incarnation is accepting a test that will strengthen your soul.
>>41971520>probably had the karma for itso you're blaming a poor soul even more
why do i become cold when I read about NDEs?
>>41970386>Will the Afterlife compensate for people who had it bad on earth?couldn't give a rat's ass about anything related to after dying , those niggerfags can all go get buttfucked by each other because im never coming back nor staying in their "heaven" or "hell" shittery
Its like waking up from a dream, and you'll be in total knowing and think "ah everything happened as it should" and leave it at that.
>>41970386No, because it's all deserved.
>>41975095You're a cold, evil person.I dare you say that to a woman whose child died of cancer.I dare you.
>>41975364Nah, I'm not.There's a time and a place, but when a child dies of cancer that was their karma.Not more and not less.
>>41970386There is no afterlife and there is no compensation either.
>>41970386>Will the Afterlife compensate for people who had it bad on earth? No.