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>>41978391
Previous thread >>41930100

>>41978391
>Sandalphon
is he the lord of sandals?

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>>41978436
He's a child of the self-deceived serpent who killed his own in a vain attempt to save his own tail, from himself.
>Jesus Christ
sounds like a snake hissing then opening its mouth

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FkWkhiU0zU

>>41978394
>Philokalia
>Gregory of Nyssa
o i am laffin

regardless though the first two sections seem solid enough, I'd add The Sayings of the Desert Fathers

Theosophy having its own section seems odd though
t. eastern catholic

>>41978691
I did fix that mistake in the updated list I haven't finished yet
>Theosophy having its own section seems odd though
It's divided into pre Schism, Post Schism and Post Reformation in a way, and after the reformation it all mostly becomes theosophy

>>41978391
I know this is more Islamic, but can anyone here give me more information about shams al ma'arif? Is it just muslims larping in fear or is there some use in it. Not having a full english translation and also having its rituals largely based on Arabic keep it out of the wests sight.

>>41978704
https://youtu.be/kAzdgYl0-lQ?si=tpVrfObqTLNb_w9_
https://youtu.be/vvyyTkhfNiE?si=rFm0GrMwyxukHJD2
Have you seen these?
The shams is like the other magical texts of its time, it's used by one sufi order for theurgy, i like to think of it as the muslim Three Books of Occult Philosophy
It would have never made sense to translate it here, we don't give worth to the supposed power of the arabic alphabet, the Picatrix however preserved pre-Islamic greek traditions which fit well with european tradition

>>41978506
Michael needs to reconnect with the Real.

Simulation theory lines up with Christianity extremely well and I can't ignore it.

>>41979398
If you mean Michael Sauter, then yes.

I'm in the Rudolf Steiner rabbit hole

>>41979734
You might like the "Challenge of Rudolf Steiner" video series, if you haven't checked it out yet.

>>41979499
Wait until you realize that Angels work with computer like efficiency and are essentially hyper intelligent automatons. Fortunately we are not like the Angels we have flesh and bone as designed by God.

>>41979686
Im talking about the one thats been so sucked into political circus that he’s simping for marco rubio now

>>41980116
https://realnewsandhistory.com/anyt-index/

I have been reading a book on the Emerald Tablet and alchemy. It describes the instructions of the Emerald Tablet as a process of destroying the ego and getting rid of earthly impurities of the spirit. When I think of my own life, I struggle to define myself by anything other than a collection of desires and a handful of relationships with friends and family. Left without ego, what would remain of me?

>>41980734
Nothing it's just setting you up to be possesed by demons.
Christians seek to empty the negative parts of the ego but retain the good. We ask God to replace those negative parts while magnifying the things that are good.

So many people want God to be their hyper-authoritarian sky daddy who smites all the degenerates. But when I tell them that he is loving, and merciful, and benevolent, they call me a cuck. If I then tell people that I talk to the holy spirit personally while meditating in the shower, and that they can talk to it too, they call me a schizo.

Is love such a bad thing?

>>41984025
American Protestants are more concerned with politics and affirming their viewpoints than anything biblical or metaphysical. It's a lifestyle brand not a religion to them.

>>41984912
America is in the midst of a culture war, and any very large group of people will have a large number of hypocrites who are just following a routine or status quo
Not that you're wrong, but you should probably look at your own denomination in the mirror. Everyone tries to pull the "wait no but my side is the exception" shit

It seems like people can only accept the divine feminine aspect of God in Christianity through mystical experience. Even when I share the scripture and explain why it makes sense, people just react as if it being uncommon knowledge makes it wrong or bad

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Who has any mystical or esoteric tips for lent this year?

>>41984912
That has not been my experience. The best among the Protestant theologians/philosophers are so much deeper and more mystical than anything the Catholics and Orthodox churn out. It's not even close.

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>>41978391
>No mention of Maria Valtorta's "The Poem of The Man-God" (AKA The Gospel as Revealed to Me)depicting the life of Jesus Christ
>labeled forbidden by the Vatican, considered as a work of fiction... yet strangely allowed to be published instead of being shutdown
>The author -despite being an average educated woman, bedridden for life and with no knowledge of the outside world- described ancient authentic Jewish rituals, towns, customs, astral maps and locations only archeologists know. Thanks to her they discovered were Lazarus' mansion was for example
>Lorenzo Ferri, who was at the time the one in charge of the Holy Shroud research got precise info on Jesus' face and wounds and there is a museum with his name in Italy with most of his paintings, illustrations and sculptures according to Valtorta's instructions

https://en.mariavaltorta.wiki/wiki/The_Gospel_as_Revealed_to_Me

>>41978582
https://traditionalistblog.blogspot.com/2026/02/russian-conservatism-and-alexander-dugin.html

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>>41986576
NTA Been really into the mystical traditions lately, but it's all been early Christian Fathers like Origen and Gregory of Nyssa. Which Protestant literature do you recommend?

https://annas-archive.li/search?q=protestant+mystics

>>41978391
Videos on Gnosis, its various types (SPG, UPG & VPG) and Gnosticism:

https://youtu.be/0F7knBtLsNs
https://youtu.be/260L-DEZVQ0
https://youtu.be/diHf_Tup6tE

>>41979250
Ty anon.

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Guys
What do you make out of all the Early Church (first five centuries or so) heresy/orthodoxy nonsense. Gnosticism, arrianism, modalism etc like, perhaps gnosticism vs orthodoxy was the most substantial and consequential but overall it just reads to me like the most educated men of their time fighting each other to death even and with politics involved over mostly just semantics.
Doesn't sit right, there must be something else to it. Like it's foundational for some esoteric stuff, systems of magic or whatever behind the scenes.

Any fan of St. Isaac of Nineveh here? Can we think surely that he wasn't a nestorian? Both the Orthodox and Roman Catholic have him in their modern canon

>>41990437
The Oriental-Eastern split should have never happened

Saw a follower of the left hand path and got an odd feeling like that's basically blasphemy against the holy spirit. I'm not sure if I have the ability to articulate why, however.

>>41993721
This is why my preferred Bible translation is the MEV. It uses the same Textus Receptus source as the KJV, but feels much closer to just... plain modern English.

When I peay or talk to God and an answer suddenly comes to me out of the blue, how am I supposed to know if that response came from God, myself, or the enemy? I'm certain that God could easily "plant" a thought if He wanted to, but how can I be sure it's not just me thinking something?

>>41993786
...I meant "pray", not "peay"
Still waking up.

>>41989948
There's a lot of great stuff in early Christianity.

>>41993786
A discussion I've had often in my meditation, and the answer is "do you have doubts?"

>>41993935
That's the entirely wrong question to ask someone with depression/anxiety, because the answer changes based on the day. When I get an idea or feel inspired, that day I usually have no doubts. When I'm struggling, nothing BUT doubts. I mean, I had doubts about returning to church and finding faith in Christ, at least at first. I have doubts that God could ever give me the tools or ability to accomplish anything, not because He's incapable, but because I'm such a retard. I told God I'd do anything He asked of me but now I feel like He's never asked anything of me because He knows I'm not capable, and what I thought was divine inspiration was me being a fool. Other days I wonder if I haven't accomplished anything yet because it'll happen on His time, but sometimes I think nothing's happened because I'm a 40 year old man and it's too late for me to learn anything.

A few years ago, I found Jesus. Then long story short I fell into a sinful lifestyle for the past couple of years. I never abandoned Jesus, but I did get comfortable in my sin. The thing I desire most in life is to be close to Jesus like I once was. However I admittedly find it hard. I’ve lost basically all my friends, and I struggle every day. What advice can you give as brothers in Christ?

>>41978705
Faggot

>>41996676
She's a woman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaieNkcjzdI

>>41994425
What I am saying is that "do you have doubts" is the answer given to me from the holy spirit. Which is to say, "if you are unsure whether a voice in your head is from me, then you don't have to treat it as gospel".

>>41978391
This might be a cousin thread if you want to drop in sometime. I made a post suggesting that Lent is a super charging thing and I don't even care if it has pagan origins according to some (as Catholicism absorbed various conquered religious traditions) >>41999006
Happy lent!

>>41995711
Lent is happening right now. Considering hopping on. You might receive the answer during prayer. For me it's a flash of inspiration or a single thought sometimes. You probably need that more than you need any person to write you a paragraph of platitudes or advice.

>>41984025
>So many people want God to be their hyper-authoritarian sky daddy who smites all the degenerates.
Well I want the sun to rise everyday but it's going to do it whether I want it to or not.
>Is love such a bad thing?
No but you shouldn't be delusional. Life isn't a cartoon where the bad guy will magically become a goofy soft hearted figure just because some happy music is playing during the credits.

>Driving to pick up wife from work
>Suddenly feel "distant" almost like I'm going to doze off while driving
>Perk up but realize that I'm not even remotely tired
>Just feel "distant" (no idea how else to describe it)
>Make it to wife's job, find parking spot, text her that I'm there
>Texts me back that she's almost done, just has some paperwork to finish up
>Close my eyes to relax
>Suddenly feel like I'm a dozen miles away
>Flashes of Jesus in my mind
>Eyes snap open and I briefly wonder if I'm having a stroke or something
>But I feel totally fine otherwise
>Close eyes again
>Distant once more
>More flashes, followed by the phrase "Be eager to repent" then something I can't quite make out
>Wife gets in, we get home, I decide to sit downstairs by myself for a bit
>Struggle to recreate the feeling for a bit before it finally happens again
>"Be eager to repent, be not like the others who value sin."
>Whoa
>Interesting
>Close eyes and listen
>Sudden flurry of images of Jesus standing in a stony hallway, looking at me (maybe?) and talking to me
>Don't understand the meaning of most of it but write it down nonetheless

>Be together in suffering but not in time
>These men in effeminate relationships, be on the lookout for them
>Welcome the Lord with open arms (open hands?), not a heavy head
>If there are ten soldiers, read the book
>Find Him and follow Him (His exact words were "Find Me and follow Me.)
>Tell them it is a time for prayer
>From the culture it flows

>Go to bed and fall asleep feeling lightheaded and distant still
>Wake up this morning feeling totally normal
>Still no clue what most of it meant

Did I actually have some sort of connection with Christ? Is the enemy trying to lead me astray? Was I just tired without realizing it? Very confused right now.

>>41999017
Lent is for faggots.
Can you christ cucks get the fuck out

>>41978391
This thread got soft deleted. Bump disabled and slid off into the archive.

>>41998517
Kind of makes sense because it wasn't a paranormal thread but. I have anti-christ fatigue. Unless /x/ is spammed with tons of Christian threads there should be no need to soft censor like this.

Satan and his servants is/are gay and lame.

>>41999232
Go cry to your discord groomers who have blackmail on you about it, maybe they'll do you a favor.

>>41993721
These are in my Orthodox Study Bible.
>Scofield Study Bible
Scofield was a heretic subversionist.

>>41999077
Checked.
>Be eager to repent.
Sounds like you heard the message. Now time to put it in action.

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Can someone explain to me Hebrews 6:4-6?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRpocteuf7s

https://voxday.net/2026/02/20/most-science-is-fake/

https://realnewsandhistory.com/anyt-02-17-26/

>>42000982
That one I understood loud and clear, the others still mostly confuse me

>>42003936
>>42003937
>>42003941
At first I thought "it seems like OP hasn't really read Evola" and then on pic #3 he says "yeah I haven't really read Evola. 10/10 waste of time
I have seen in multiple instances how readers outside Evola's intended audience can get stupid ideas from him. I have personally benefited from his work, particularly on Buddhism and the Hermetic tradition, but I don't generally recommend it.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uvb0_f8ykj4

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X753laNS4FU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l08OnbROl3Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdaWbW6MbCA

>>42004397
I read Ride The Tiger front to back. It was one of the most difficult reads I've ever done.

I took notes and everything. I learned literally nothing. Some great concepts in the first couple chapters though.

>>42007136
I'm not OP btw just wanted to agree that generally I think most people who mention Evola haven't actually read him they just namedrop him constantly.

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https://thelightinvisible.org/2017/02/03/towards-a-manifesto-of-the-church-magical/

https://www.contemplation.info/post/unveiling-the-depths-of-rudolf-steiner-s-esoteric-christianity-and-the-mission-of-christian-rosenkre

Does crossdressing fit into Christian esotericism in any way?

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>>41978391
Implications of Prophet Mohammedﷺ being the first created being?
Also is discussion of Islam welcome here? Considering that historically it has been viewed as a Christian heresy related to Arianism?

>>42007136
He is a highly polemical writer and a weak minded reader will just accept his exaggerations at face value. For instance in Revolt he deliberately contrasts the best examples of kingship against the worst examples of priesthood in order to force you to think about their relation. There are no traditional doctrines in which kingship is actually prior to priesthood, but the reader probably imagines the primordial tradition as no different from priesthood as we know it, i.e. distinct from temporal power, and that is who he is addressing.
In the Doctrine of Awakening he explains that the Buddhist teaching of anatta originally served a similar purpose, to shock the decadent metaphysicians of his day into attending to what it is in their direct experience that their doctrines had once clearly pointed out. Today also for many pandits atman is only a concept.
>>42008671
Light means intellect or awareness. The first created light would be the reflection of the solar ray on the surface of the primordial waters. The Prophet attained to that. When Saint Paul writes that he was rapt to the third heaven, this also connotes vision of the divine essence in this life, which is the highest and first kind of the gift of prophecy.

>>42008671
That's a Sufi adaption of the Shia belief in the pre-existence of sometimes Ali and other times the whole family
Arabs had bo knowledge of pre-existence, it's a Platonic-Christian concept adopted, probably after the sixth Imam, as the Zaydis seem to have no knowledge of this
So just like how Christians have a Pre-existing Son and Church the new Islamic religion needed a Pre-existing "prophet" and Imam
>Also is discussion of Islam welcome here? Considering that historically it has been viewed as a Christian heresy related to Arianism?
At this point we can talk about whatever here

>>42009229
>Arabs had bo knowledge of pre-existence, it's a Platonic-Christian concept adopted, probably after the sixth Imam, as the Zaydis seem to have no knowledge of this
It's a very well known Eastern concept and if the Arabs really "borrowed" the doctrine then they very likely got it, like the Greeks would have, from the East. However, any traditional doctrine is transmitted orally for many generations before it is first recorded in writing, so the order in which extant texts appears does not prove a chain of transmission by itself. Plagiarism and originality are not concepts in antiquity, rather, the more ancient the teaching, the closer to primordial truth it was considered. There would be stronger reasons to invoke the authority of the "wise barbarians," who the native tradition would assert to be its remote ancestors, than to conceal it. The sufis themselves say that their metaphysics was disclosed through direct experience, which agrees with the testimony both of the Platonists who they allegedly plagiarized and the Eastern rishis. Why is this to be denied?
>So just like how Christians have a Pre-existing Son
The Son does not pre-exist in Christian theology, He is existence itself.

>>42009229
>At this point we can talk about whatever here
If you are referring to that interesting side tangent about mormonism we had going for a bit, I'd still count it as Christian enough to fit right in.
Now Manichaeism and Baháʼísm is were I'd draw a line.

>>42009330
Did i ever mention plagiarism?
Because the Zaydis don't have it that means that it's a post "schism" tradition Ismailis and Twelwers have from the sixth Imam onwards, it also existed in the Ghulat sects
>The Son does not pre-exist in Christian theology, He is existence itself.
The super-existential trinity reveals itself in being
>>42010262
I love how a joke thread got turned into an event here

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>>42010390
>I love how a joke thread got turned into an event here
/ceg/ Christian Esotericism General #147 Lion of Allah Edition

>>42010553
Based.

>>42010390
You said that it's a Platonic-Christian concept. Would that not be plagiarism?
If the Zaydis do not appear to have a given doctrine, that does not mean that they really do not have it; if they really do not have it now, it does not mean that they never had it; if it was not written down in the past, that does not mean that it was not transmitted. The content of the doctrine is the spiritual influence directly experienced by the believer and not the form it takes. In theological terms: the virtue of faith and the deposit of faith are distinct.
>The super-existential trinity reveals itself in being
Super-existence is not pre-existence. In the latter the pre-existent being is not manifested at one time, and then at another time it is. The Trinity is the very principle of manifestation and is in all things at all times. It's not comparable to the pre-existence of the Prophet. Rather to "whithersoever you turn, there is the face of God."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt_lsqhIX4Q

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QRtfIynC1pM

>>42010899
>You said that it's a Platonic-Christian concept. Would that not be plagiarism?
If the Zaydis do not appear to have a given doctrine, that does not mean that they really do not have it; if they really do not have it now, it does not mean that they never had it; if it was not written down in the past, that does not mean that it was not transmitted
Evidence can prove something exists, if there is no evidence it can be argued through reason, my conclusion comes from what is available to know, feel free to prove otherwise
>Super-existence is not pre-existence.
When something is above existence it means that it is not dependant on it, meaning it "came before" existence
But i know you mean creation, and that in Islam, muhammad exists before creation as the light/nur, in Christianity the light is the "Energeia"

>>42011157
>Evidence can prove something exists, if there is no evidence it can be argued through reason, my conclusion comes from what is available to know, feel free to prove otherwise
You already know it.
>nur = energeia
In Christianity the light is the Person of Christ, and this is an object of belief. In Islam the light is the prophethood of Christ, and this is something to be realized within oneself. You are probably referring to the uncreated light of Gregory Palamas; while it is true that this is one of the divine energies, nevertheless, all that which is uncreated is God alone. Energeia is a transcendental.

>>41989948
Early Christianity, particularly the first 400-500 years or so, was more theologically diverse than a lot of people are willing to admit. Even within mainstream Christianity. Apokosteisis was still popular and so was Origen

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>>42011547
>In Islam the light is the prophethood of Christ
NTA but the light in Islam is Mohammed not Jesus, right?
>God first creates a primordial light
>That light is identified with the spiritual reality of Muhammad
>From this light, the universe and all other beings were created
>The historical Prophet is the earthly manifestation of that primordial reality

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>>42013592
Yes and no; according to Ibn Arabi the spiritual light of Muhammad is his prophethood, which is the same light that is incarnated in Adam and the other prophets including Christ.

>>42011547
>You already know it
Yeah I know that I'm right
>In Christianity the light is the Person of Christ, and this is an object of belief. In Islam the light is the prophethood of Christ, and this is something to be realized within oneself. You are probably referring to the uncreated light of Gregory Palamas; while it is true that this is one of the divine energies, nevertheless, all that which is uncreated is God alone. Energeia is a transcendental.
Please read Saint Albertus Magnus where the the light is the first creation of God as a mixture of limit and unlimited

>>42013630
>The Muhammadan revelation is explicitly viewed as the confirmation and fulfillment of the revelations preceding it (musaddiqn bi-ma bayna yadayhi, Qur'an 46:30): according to the Qur'an (2:4, 2:136, etc.,), the true believers are those who believe in what was revealed to Muhammad and in what was revealed before him. The concept of the verus propheta, symbolized by the long pilgrimage of the Muhammadan Light through the aeons, is a logical consequence of this fundamental doctrine, according to which the successive prophetic messages, as multiple manifestations of the one Truth, are so many stages leading up to him who will bring the 'full sum of the Words' (jawami al-kalim), simultaneously perfecting and abrogating the previous Laws.
Chodkiewicz 64-65
>>42013664
You have read Plato but haven't understood him, if you still think that your opinions constitute knowledge. What you really know, you know without knowing how you know. Such is pre-existence, known by anamnesis.
>Please read Saint Albertus Magnus where the the light is the first creation of God as a mixture of limit and unlimited
Point me to the text and I gladly will.
According to Sahl al-Tustari, Khidr said to him, "God created the Light of Muhammad out of His own Light."
Genesis 1:3: "And God said: Be light made. And light was made."
But in John 1:1-9:
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him: and without him was made nothing that was made.
4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 This man came for a witness, to give testimony of the light, that all men might believe through him.
8 He was not the light, but was to give testimony of the light.
9 That was the true light, which enlighteneth every man that cometh into this world.

Found a deuterocanon verse that might have some esoteric/mystical depth to it. Eager to see if you guys have any thoughts on it

Sirach 42:24
All things come in pairs, one opposite the other, and he has made nothing incomplete

And just to add a little more food for thought
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syzygy

>>42013727
You know Latin? If not go to the seconds source, History of Christian Philosophy in the Middle Ages by Ettiene Gilson
>>42015160
Yes thus is a tradition also found in:
https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/080802.htm
Go to chapter 33, the Ebionites have this doctrine of pairs
To clarify there are two different "pair traditions" the Valentinians have one dependant on "united pairs", not sure what to really call them, like the syzygies which are together, whereas the older tradition which the Clementines preserve also exists in the Pre-Christian Qumran sect, where the pairs are opposed to eachother, so for every angel there's a demon equivalent for example, and for every true prophet there's a false prophet

Been following more on that Emerald Tablet book, focusing on the first step in alchemy: Calcination. It recommended a practice known as roasting cinnabar meditation. While practicing this, I discovered the weakness in my ego relates to my habits of inaction. That I am afraid to stand up for myself with regards to work, and that I further tend to avoid working many hours to avoid discomfort. That my actions in general are guided by an avoidance of discomfort to my own detriment.

This analysis by my own anima/spirit cuts deep, although it doesn't line up with my traditional preconceptions of what "ego" is. Nevertheless, I am told that *this* is the element of my ego that must be burned away to continue in this alchemical, spiritual purification. I hesitated for a long while to accept that this is something I will go through with, and I am still struggle to want to push myself forward here.

Any thoughts/spiritual advice here?

>>42015383
>To clarify there are two different "pair traditions" the Valentinians have one dependant on "united pairs", not sure what to really call them, like the syzygies which are together, whereas the older tradition which the Clementines preserve also exists in the Pre-Christian Qumran sect, where the pairs are opposed to eachother, so for every angel there's a demon equivalent for example, and for every true prophet there's a false prophet
I figure both could be true. You have opposites that complete each other like male and female, and opposites that oppose each other and can never unite like good and evil

>>42012015
Thank you, this so much I could tell for myself. What I'm wondering at is why on Earth would the brightest men of their time split their hairs, hate, assault and even murder each other over all that shit. “That guy there, he believes Jesus is of two natures merged into one, instead of two natures, I hate him and I must kill+rape him”. Nonsense, there HAD to be something more to it, perhaps hidden under the surface.

https://x.com/johnmilbank3/status/1165916892378402819

>>42019544
Based.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uPL_i_rSl4k

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>>42023074
Like making uppity religious tweets?

Sent the local diocese an email yesterday about acquiring my baptismal certificate. Hopefully they respond soon.

>>42023074
True.

has anyone here read the urantia book?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gEKypIvNBA

>>41996546
Meanwhile 400k white english lolis were deflowered by muslim trash over 50 years. And your cops not only did nothing, but facilitated some of the glory walls. This is a joke

>>41996542
>>41996546
>>41996549
What do these have to do with /ceg/?

>>42025378
Poor man's Oahspe.

>>42025521
shut up and love thy neighbour chud.

>>42026277
That bread looks really tasty. I think eating a more modest diet would be easier if I could bake loaves like that.

I wanna ask whoever happens to know, how is the literal standard version of the bible that I've seen floating around?

>>42025378
I've been reading the Quran

>>42028914
Which version
How is it

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Death Stranding is based on Saint Christopher

>>42026396
i take it you haven't read it then

>>42028914
Good man.

>>42030659
Why

>>42028914
Gay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpEBJgzyRSg

>>42031357
ew

>>42033146
If the Idea of God exists then God exists, that's the platonic conception, the Idea of God would have to be "Idea" the form of forms, the original and first Idea all others are dependant on, yet the Christian God is above it, Idea is his "Body", his bride, we know her as Sophia

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When human beings are faithless and do not stand firm when tempted, and Sophia sees that She cannot approach the soul in love:
>Then She is very sorrowful and withdraws, She darkens the fire of the soul and let's him fall into sin and foolishness, giving him an inconstant and foolish wife to hang around his neck.
>Then things become grave.... Then the devil comes looking like an angel.... Thus beginners must be careful and on guard. They will not be accepted again before they have learned their lesson and overcome the dragon.
>Christ's poverty is the fortress of divine Wisdom where She lives protected; those who want to go to Her must first become poor.... Fools scorn Her, but the wise esteem Her greatly. All earthly Mammon is mud by comparison.
When self-will has been overcome, however, Sophia returns and clothes the soul in new garments to show that it is worthy again of Her love and participation in the divine life of the Trinity:
>Thus when human beings have overcome themselves, divine Sophia goes forth to meet them... And quickens their souls with inexpressible sweetness and clothes them once again with Her divine nature.
In addition, Guchtem also understood Sophia Christologically and often identified her with Christ.

The above is from pic related, with the greentext parts excerpts from Johann Georg Gichtel. The book also went over some Sophian poems by a theologian named Gottfried Arnold that were very interesting, maybe I'll post one or two of them later.

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>>42035475
Arthur Versluis translated picrel from Gichtel
John Pordage's Sophia is also available, hopefully soon his Magnum Opus will be translated, "Divine and true Metaphysics"