"In The Chronicles of Narnia, the lion Aslan represents Jesus Christ as a Christ-like figure. Created by C. S. Lewis, Aslan sacrifices himself to save Edmund, dies on the Stone Table, and is resurrected—paralleling Jesus’ crucifixion and resurrection. Aslan is also portrayed as the creator and moral authority of Narnia, reflecting Christian beliefs about Christ’s divine nature. Lewis described Narnia as a “supposal,” imagining how Christ might appear in another world—hence, a lion."It somehow escaped me that the Lion in the "Narnia" story is a god and world creator.What a coincidence.
Maybe read the 1st book in the series it has my favoirite written showing of a creation process
>>41978472>creation process
>>41978498for me, its "siri, create da earf">>41978456>world creatorso not a jewsome of the best pagan works are actually written by christcucks who unknowingly tap into an unconscious nono part of their brain, and in their consciously trying to appeal to jesus and their jewish brainwashing, their unconscious ends up overriding that and projecting something beautiful.essentially, the gods sometimes use npcs; artists as their own personal vehicles for the distribution of their ideas. these people arent worth celebrating, for they were divine instruments. faust, dune, the silmarillion, narnia, to name a few
>>41978456Well, the NT does describe Jesus as being God and Creator so that seems fine
>>41978600"Nothing to see here."
>>41978599Isnt that just all creativity?Is any person really worth celebrating or is everything channeled?
>>41978618Ok we get it youre mad at the demiurge now let us have a conversation without your intellectual well poisoning ty
>>41979052If even 1 real lad reads we are gucci it was all worth it all alongStop demoralizing it will eat u
OK back to topic:WHY is it my fav?Because 5yo me read about a world being born from the VOID with Aslan SINGING and life appearing in HARMONY to his song. Sure christcuckery blabla but a christian raised child is not gonna receive these thoughts from anywhere else.
>>41979052>OP IS FAKE AND GAY AND PAYED TO SHIT THIS PLACE UPSo you find it "shit" when I mention that the creator of Narnia is a lion, and the only analgy people draw is to the figure of Jesus, no word abouy gnosticism anywhere.If you find that "shit" on a board for paranormal topics, this says more about you than about my thread.
>>41978968no anon its not all creativity. there is Creativity where youre aware of your genius and the muses blessing you, and recognize the divine favour and then consciously act as their vehicle because it is your destinyand then there are npcs being hijacked who are completely incapable of recognizing any divine presence whatsoever. but because the gods couldnt catch a break and use the person they wanted to use because that person was stuck working at a car wash or something they were never meant to do as a result of human greed obstructing every single aspect of purpose for creation, they use the npc, and the npc then goes back to their two thousand more years trust the plan npcness, totally oblivious to having been in any divine presence whatsoever, having found no differentiation to the lack thereofhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius_(mythology)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musesthe Genius relates to the Archetype, but because npcs have discarded their Archetype in favor of a manmade artificial one, (i.e. jewish guy in sandals, yahweh wanting to enslave goyim, etc) they lack the awareness to distinguish their charioteer, which is their lifeline to divinity and which provides them their meaning and purpose in life, and is the instrument for the development of their soulhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platonic_epistemology#Charioteer_myth
Any elaboration from gnostic trollface man on what Aslan might have to do with the demiurge?
Don’t they mention Dionysus as a character in the second book?
>>41979742im sure Tumnus is totally christian and definitely not in any way related to Panor maybe the jews just got lazy and never got around to canonizing Saint Pancake to retcon him inlazy by jew standards i mean, paul bunyun cutting down a tree literally nobody worshipped and Longinus the centurion who stabbed jesus converting to christianity 500 years later was already pretty fucking lazy
>>41979728Wow wow interesting stuffAre you able to differentiate the two cases by examining only their works? Is it easier or harder if you know the supposed "life story" of the person?
>>41979729>Any elaboration>on what Aslan might have to do with the demiurge?What, are you serious?...
>>41979805Do u habe answer??
>>41979742also, yes Bacchus is a character>>41979799the works are the samethe only distinction is whether the person is worthy of our praise, or just the gods.i am a great fan of all of those works i cited, but more often than not the people responsible are handicaps and impediments to that creation after the fact. herbert probably being the worst, jrr tolkien being up there, but surprisingly his son christopher seems much more spiritually pagan. like theres an example of family members sharing identical dreams, its a pagan family, some will be more attuned than others.as far as their further post-contribution, i.e. interpretation of their provided work, it depends on how spiritually pagan/spiritually not-jewish they are, as its something which is underlying their conscious selves which motivates their actions and interpretations. and youre either a knower, or a believer. its complicated, very rarely will they miss the muses and then attune themselves after the fact.
>>41978599>these people arent worth celebrating, for they were divine instruments.You know the body of Christ was a vessel for God's will too, right?
>>41979837>Do u habe answer??Yeah I mean...it's kind of a coincidence that Aslan and Yaldabeoth are both lion-faced deities, and rulers over their worlds. Maybe the "christian" C. S. Lewis wanted to tell us something with that.
>>41979842>>41979799and i say it all the time, but just think of where you have to be to worship a jewish guy in sandals as your creator. theres pretty much no coming back from that, atleast with that generation. and these cases of their being used are exceedingly rare. thats about once per century by my estimate, and i think its probably only possible because their blood is still relatively pure, therefore there are certain gateways available, unconscious motivators and various aspects of their underlying biology whicb qualify them as potential vehicles. and christopher tolkien prove thats the case, as he seemed to have a closer alignment than his own father, the author.much of the involvement of the gods in human affairs has to be done outside of the awareness of npcs. if a tree falls in the forest, quantum superposition, and all of that. divine intervention is restricted to knowers, the players, people who have volunteered to be here. to reveal themselves to npcs would be a sort of breaking of reality. its possible of course, but its meant to be avoided as it relates to the overall purpose of creation itself and minimizing involvement as much as feasibly possibly.the jews are the sorts who will kill their own children as a way to try the blackmail the gods into revealing themselves, very selfishly, completely oblivious to the wider implications and the setbacks it will cause.in this way it is preferable the npcs are used, ideally, it would be entirely npcs who serve as the vehicles. but because theyre not, we can actually use that, among other things, to gauge our position in the overall process of divine perfection to determine where the gods presently are in that process, and then use that to determine our own course of action. but i think ive said too much, and i'll leave it there.
>>41979842Iguess pagan = greek pantheon as so far in your messages? Pagan hits differently as hungarian wehave sky god and steppe style stuff with hundreds of years of khazar stories mixed in for good measureSo, isnt their contribution further awakening potential (sleeping or whatever) souls to knowing over beleiving? And what does that have to strictly do with pagan//jewish world view duo? Can you not kind of act secular inside your culture, Mentally? Being labeled crazy ofc but tolerated
>>41979853we're not having the same conversation anon. going from kill all goyim to god is love in the span of 300 years is just poor research and writing. it attempts to just pretend we skipped all the tribulations and the work involved and divinity achieved a fairy tale ending without doing any of the work, as if by magic. that isnt how it works.if youre a christian youre basically praying to a god in the very distant future, rather than a god as it currently exists. which is fine, if you dont want to be involved and just want to clog up resources, and make things as difficult as possible.
>>41979944>if youre a christian youre basically praying to a god in the very distant future, rather than a god as it currently exists.what?
>>41979944>going from kill all goyim to god is love in the span of 300 years is just poor research and writing.300 years? It takes the individual a fraction of their lifetime. Apparently. But in seriousness, I'm pretty sure the aspects you take issue with is exactly what the appeal of mainstream Christianity offers. "Come as you are" and all that.
>>41979925nah, pagan just means the natural religion. youre the only human alive and have to make judgment calls for yourself. every culture will hit a threshold where corruption or schizo seeps in and it derails, but there is a natural process one would undertake as is evidenced by the similarities in cultures all throughout the world never having come into contact with another. its just the natural connection, a constantly evolving process, not something set in stone.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manitouyou can use the greek as a baseline though, its the one i prefer. think of it as the entirity of all divine things, aka the gods, as "god". each god represents a perfection of some aspect of reality, i.e. war, beauty, justice. the problem is, the more you engage in this process, the more abstractions you have to build, and abstractions of thought are not humans strongsuit. some cultures will peak fast, others will go for a while, but eventually inevitably hit their limit. whereas others, like jews (gnostics) will lose all semblance of reality and start talking about abortion survivor gods with cat faces and transgender born babies and completely lose the plot and drive themselves insane and just resign themselves to "god", and reducing all aspects of divinity down to one simplistic concept so easy a toddler can understand. which might be helpful for some people, i dont know, ive never seen it actually work. combining it with 'the word', which sets itself in stone, and is antagonistic to the nature of divinity itself which is a constantly adapting and evolving force has always resulted in a complete spiritual isolation. those abrahamic faiths needed to infuse pagan works like baby blood just to keep themselves alive, and when those dried up, so too did the further development of their understanding.
>>41980016I think i start seeing youThe complex mental part sounds like what steiner explains when he talks about spiritual faculties you have to develop with hard work, also i heard you can kinda go with euclids elements theory and imagine harder by trying to structure it imagining it as geometry (then later idk if you really can see any of these geometric stuff with 3i and they get real meaning then woo)Other point is I think all people get multiple chances of self-initiation in life, as in a chance to step out of their mental prison and leave it behind completely. It usually comes by losing all material but i guessthat is just classical mechanics at play as well. ppl are suffering in these mental conditions and there is always a chance for a way out. Maybe not so easy with modern psichostudies and medicine which aims to stop you from this?
>>41982680its not exactly a question of willpower or mental exercise. however, the gods, when revealing themselves will teach of themselves in ways beyond your comprehension, using something as simple as 2d geometry, a series of dots to depict a love story, like pacman, but with just the crumbs, the dots. things entirely beyond comprehension, which you will see says less of what youre being shown, and more what is occurring behind the process of what you are being shown, in the background, happening in you.doing cognitive exercises is helpful just in general though, its just important to stay grounded in reality and to always be mindful that what is true in your subjective experience might simply be a byproduct of reality, rather something truly innate to it, and which might not necessarily true for everybody else. the most important thing to remember is that distinction. otherwise you end up with "siri, create the 6000 year old flat earth", and its been 2000 years and you are stuck praying to eternal silence having left nothing but a disaster of entropic devolving humans in your wake whose only virtues are "do what feel good" whose natures are closer to monke than human being
Stature Idolatry is sublime practice of Satanist ideology, for idiots (of common understanding).Stature Idolatry is the re legion of the demoralized. What you are, who you know. Not what you know and who you are.Stature Idolatry PRE SCRIBES what Truths the Other is allowed to speak.Stature Idolatry is roteService to self materialist hierarchicalismMoral relativismSocial darwinismLay Satanists have no heckin reason to love Man or Logos because Stature Idolatry APPEARS productive.The ascendency of Giant Psychopaths within every institution FEELS rational as a meritocratic pyramid because Stature Idolatry is the religion of The World (an idol).Standing up to this coercion is immediately recognized as ideological violence against Satanism and the giant psychopathic sons and daughters of satan. Stature Idolatry is what the wolves food is most obsessed with.Every bit of meditation (measure) is about feeling how well the other conforms to the Golem-Satanic ideal.How often will a lanklet tell you how tall he is (on the internet) in order to qualify his opinion?This neurotic need for control over which bodies may speak Truth, is how Man and The Lord God are mocked.Meek Man defeated The Giant Cainable Psychopathic predator of Man and the seething is imeasurable, because what the Satanist must do is define The Law Of Nature for its VAIN DYSGENIC benefit.Remember, removing overhead (you) appears to be productive because they get to try to cause God's sheep to suffer.
>>41982680>Other point is I think all people get multiple chances of self-initiation in life, as in a chance to step out of their mental prison and leave it behind completely.you are correct. life consists of a series of skill checks, not usually in the material, but in the immaterial. dreams are usually the infrastructure which allows the gods to peak under the hood and make sleight alterations. tweaks to patterns of thought, variables introduced outside of material possibility, QTE events to judge your reaction to certain scenarios.once someone becomes a potential candidate for ascension they will screened in the material. it begins with an experience some sort of Noticing event, which will involve a series of escalating increasingly noticable syncronicities that exist right at the boundary of possibility, and statistically, will be impossible, in an effort to get you to "Notice" [the gods], and the lack of privacy in your own consciousness.from here there are several possible outcomes, the person returns to their programming, the person attempts to play god with the gods, or the person casts aside environmentally imposed precaution to witness and observe, learn and ultimately, remember.
>>41983762The hand that holds your chain is the same hand that helps you unbind it..... if you can prove you desire and deserve it like other anon says. The archons run the simulation but they also dispense the cheat codes to all the "wizards" using will and intention to warp their material circumstance.
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>>41978456Libraries are kino places to pass messages when the vagrants aren't pissing in the hallways.
>>41978456I enjoy the Narnia stories conceptually but I find them woefully difficult to read and/or watch because the children are utterly insufferable. I actually think a lot of people would benefit greatly from a retelling of these tales that frames them slightly differently and has a touch of modernisation.
>>41978456Aslan knew he would be resurrected after being killed on the altar, which means his death was not a sacrifice.Compare it to John Constantine committing suicide so that Lucifer would appear to take him personally. He used the business with Mammon as leverage so that the Devil would offer a life-extension, but Constantine instead asked for Isabella to be allowed to leave Hell and go to Heaven.Constantine knew that this would count as a sacrifice, and would mean that he, too, would go to Heaven. However, Gabriel had already warned him that Constantine doesn't have faith, but rather "knows" these things, and that knowing didn't count. So, knowing this, Constantine knew his sacrifice was void and that he would go to Hell, AND THAT is what made his sacrifice an actual sacrifice and allowed him to stay out of Hell.
>>41984089>which means his death was not a sacrifice.the suffering is the sacrifice
>>41984089My point is that The "god" of Narnia appears as a lion, and that reminds on the Demiurge.That's somehow odd when a christian writer does it, almost like a gnostic dog whistle.
>>41984112the Lion of Judah is a biblical thing too rememberhttps://www.gotquestions.org/lion-tribe-Judah.html
>>41984143>"In Book of Genesis 49:9–10, the patriarch Jacob blesses his son Judah, describing him as a lion"There is no mention about God being a lion in this case.
>>41984182why did you ignore the other reference and the rest of the article?
>>41984187No, I just asked GPT.
>>41984193this is one of your problems
>>41984110I disagree. To sacrifice something is to give it up. You can suffer for penance, but it's not a sacrifice.You could argue Aslan sacrificed a cozy night at home to be killed by a witch, but that's kind of weak. I'd be willing to give my life for another if I knew I'd just come back anyway.
>>41984211>To sacrifice something is to give it upwhat if your definition is not complete? The Bible calls praise a sacrifice, for example. And if you're going to try denying that Christianity has a tradition of seeing suffering as a sacrifice then you've got an impossible hill to scale.
Fascinating thread. A rarity on this board.>>41979728>>41979842>>41979920I wish I could light one up with you and talk about all this. So many questions.>>41982854>from here there are several possible outcomesCould you elaborate on that point?
>>41983762call it whatever you want, i thought of loki. statements told in surface level lies, which create branches of cognitive investigation that i would not normally use, and after some time, i am eventually lead to some greater truth.had i simply been told outright, itd have and come and gone, but because i followed the thread, it bore fruit in the end in a way that has lasting implications.
>>41984275lots of people get one, but most fail immediately. most dont get past that initial creepypasta phase, theyll cry to rabbi yeshua, or call what theyre seeing demons, archons, judgment values other people have determined for other things probably not even related to what youre seeing, your subscribing to those peoples expertise over your own actual experience, says alot, and will usually end pretty quickly. some time after that, exploration and communication begins after that. i cant speak of where a jew would drop out, but itd be the communication phase at the latest, though its possible they never qualify to begin with so idk.
>>41984325What would then be the "objective" best course of action? To shoot with you, I feel that's what happened to me very recently. My perspective was to learn and try to understand what was wanted of me. I did my best to keep an open mind as much as I could as I deconstructed everything about what I had learned bit by bitAlso what did you mean by some trying to play god with the gods?
>>41978968Schizos think everyone has voices commanding them to do something
>>41984360some people like to go to the movies to watch the movie, other people try to get up out of their seat to find the projector room so they can play their own movietheir lust for power is too great, they believe lies meant to induce skepticism, merely because they were told to. abraham murdering his own child. he needed to go up to the projector room rather than simply know it was a test.
>>41978456It didn't escape you, you're remembering wrong. Lewis (And Tolkien) taught Medieval Literature. The Narnia books were a hobby, applying a Medieval worldview and cosmology. Tolkien didn't like Narnia because he thought it was too hodge-podge and gaudy, with "Father Christmas" and Satyrs. Meanwhile, the world of Middle Earth was also "sung" into existence. So you need to look into Medieval Literature to understand the cosmology, alchemy, and "music of the spheres".The idea that Aslan was Jesus was really pushed by the Christian Publishers.
>>41986346>The idea that Aslan was Jesus was really pushed by the Christian Publishers.Maybe it wasn't clear in my op, but what I meant is that Aslan is Yaldabeoth.
>>41986359Completely opaque. Did you read your own post?
>>41986463>the Lion in the "Narnia" story>is a god and world creator.>What a coincidence.Yes, I expected people here to get it what I mean.
>>41979861Aslan isn't "lion-faced", he is a lion.Yaldabaoth isn't a lion, it's a serpent with a lion head. These are not the same thing. You saw a superficial similarity and ran with it. You are playing fast and loose with the symbols to make tenuous connections. You should let the symbols speak for themselves, maybe then you will come to understand them, instead of trying to force them into patterns that match your limited understanding.
>>41988636>trying to force them into patternsIf you don't see it as a hint that the autor took the form of a lion for his deity, from all possible form he could choose, then your perception of patterns and occult symbolism is very differnent.I can't say for sure that C. S. Lewis knew that the demiurge is described with a lion head, but I assume it since he was a learned man.It can be just coincidene, but through my studies of the occult I stopped believing in such coincidences.
>>41988728Of course he knew that, but it's irrelevant. The lion is a very ancient symbol, much older than the demiurge depiction.In effect you are saying the symbol of the lion is modeled on the demiurge, when actually it's the exact opposite.The entire point of the demiurge's appearance is that it is a serpent who believes it is a lion when it really isn't, it is ignorant and unaware of its true nature.How can you look at two symbols and conclude that the composite symbol is the older and more primary? You are deeply confused or just not even thinking seriously about what you are saying.
>>41988758>You are deeply confused or just not even thinking seriously about what you are saying.What an amazing ad hominem. You must be a really wise man.
>>41988774Am I unwise? Then so much the worse for you by comparison. You ignored the multiple other points I made because you lack humility and don't really care about the topic anyways. I feel totally vindicated in my assessment of you, if anything I should have been meaner.
>>41988789What an amazing self reflection. You must be a really wise man./conversation
>>41988728"Behold the lion of the tribe of Juda, the root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals."The lion is a symbol of Christ, and has been since the Bible was formed.The demiurge PRETENDS to be a lion, as other anon said.
