im so tired of being trans, dysphoria filled nights. but i know for a fact the body i was born with doesnt match the nature of my spirit. ive read in old norse stories that the gods knew spells to change your shape, your hamr. i want to know how to do this, i need to learn how to permanently shift my sex. does anyone know of any rituals or spells or whatever that can help with this? killing myself isnt an option ive already tried and ive been stopped every time by loved ones or supernatural things out of my control
>>41982259you can wear a dress and still have a penis if you want, anon. people will stare at you, sure, but what you’re looking for sounds far more unhealthy
Nothing you can do will change this in a way that won't be a pain in the ass long term. There is no magick for it.Why can't you just accept whatever is between your legs AND whatever stupid fucking personality traits you've assigned to a certain gender? TOGETHER?I rarely "feel" like my gender. I play it up when it benefits me. Being attached to your gender is fucking stupid
>>41982259I had sex with a spirit and now my astral body is pregnant.
>>41982283im not sure exactly what part of this seems "unhealthy" other than the dysphoria. just looking into magic and options other than pharmaceuticals or surgery.
>>41982259There's no shapeshifting. Best you can do is HRT or surgery or both. I don't think it's a great idea, but your body, your choice.
>>41982307this is less about my gender and more about my spirit feeling unfulfilled with the constraints this body has left me with.
>>41982259Focus on the higher body, not the mortal, physical sheath, it is temporary and you will lose it. Shapeshifting comes later.
There are no known options... unfortunately for many.It's very sad when your expectations or desires (or dissatisfactions) in life cross the line into the realm of possibility (and it's especially frustrating if they weren't "special" but rather simple and accessible) and no one has done anything about it yet... miracles are unknown.Probably, if people were offered a choice, millions, or at least a significant portion of them, would take it. And all that remains is despondency.
>>41982259I genuinely believe what you are seeking exists anon. It is not simply a matter of the right ritual though. YOU need to be a powerful enough sorcerer for it to work though. Become powerful. A legit fireball slinging master of the arcane not some simple occultist who knows a few Hebrew letters and jacks off to fractal drawings.
When the shitposting ramps up, you know there's a hot one on the board..
>>41982320>>41982336i'm saying that looking for magical solutions to a problem like this isn't something you should pursue. i understand that your heart is in immense pain, but the fact that you're asking for literal magic as a way to solve these problems should paint a pretty clear picture of how irrational and dangerous this could become.may i ask what you feel is lacking in the way you are now?
>>41982355Why are you giving someone hope?A copy of an executable consciousness is just a copy.An executable consciousness, lacking critical correspondence, will be different from what a person already has.Imitating a form when it actually doesn't exist is simply a deception.
>>41982320There is a sort of metaphysical light body you can activate and use to transport your consciousness into its other form. It won't be physical, but that might be better, your species might not even be human for all I know. You do it by allowing your love to reach your physical body, and that does something to the dna and makes you start feeling and hallucinating more and more that you are how you feel. Somewhat paradoxical in feeling. Its like the more you let your consciousness love your body, the more your opposite parts come into contact, the more you feel aroused, the more you feel like you are the female that your male body is trying to have sex with. Its both extremely gay and extremely heterosexual, its like trying to marry your body and soul together. At a certain level of awareness, you start seeing a multidimensional view of your body and dna, and thats when the hallucinations of your multidimensional nature starts taking over, and you see more of yourself manifesting into ethereal awareness.I don't really know how to take the process all the way, as far as I can tell it actually makes you less physical and more metaphysical, rather than what you seem to want, which is to make your feelings more physical. This is like making your desire to physically manifest your feelings take a backseat to the actual metaphysical nature of said feelings, and allowing them to express what they actually are to you, rather than what you want them to be.I've temporarily shapeshifted into various other forms of female life this way, ive seen other sorcerers who can shapeshift as well.I heard one sorcerer explain it to me, that the male dragon spirit takes control of the female body and shapeshifts with itself by immensely pleasuring the female side of the consciousness until it manifests itself.I can't say whether or not this will ever make you truly 'physically female', but I think the final outcome would actually be better than that.That said,>>41982317
>>41982259thier used to be talks of biomancy here but that ship has sailed.
>>41982366i have seen my spirit, other people have seen it, and its restless. i can feel it writhing, wanting to escape. how do i describe the feeling of wanting to bring life into this world when i dont have a uterus? its almost like phantom limb but in the opposite direction. my mind knows what it wants but my body can only change so much. HRT imo only works for people whos spirit is reflective of their understood "gender". thats why there are people who HRT just does nothing for them. my body and mind accepted that and i have transitioned really well. my husband didnt even know i was trans when we met, but physical substance only goes so far. magic however?..
>>41982361i believe it exists too. historically its been talked about. i believe the magic for the norse was called seiðr. they were even trying to do it with alchemy, i just dont know where to even start
>>41982366>may i ask what you feel is lacking in the way you are now?Not the tranny OP but I get annoyed every time this question is asked. Sure in theory the world as it is could sate any emotional desire people have but practically it is impossible for most. For example I would like to change the world and fight back against the evil ruling it. Volunteering at a homeless shelter isn't going to cut it. In theory if I had several billion dollars or extreme charisma I could create the sort of change I would like to see. Practically I could never get rich or influential enough to do so (and all collective action is infiltrated). So yea I am pursuing the Occult instead.
you can use spiritual projection to alter the way others perceive you.
>>41982382The higher body is a reality.
>>41982432For Seidr specifically you want Freya and Odin. There isn't a book out there to really learn it but the Gods never left us and can still be communed with. Remember every spiritual practice ever started with a Shaman out in the woods who figured stuff out directly.
You can try morphrasm or however its called. Its basically understanding that light is the center of the spiritual world but shadow is the center of the physical and shadow energy is needed to shapeshift until your other form is solid. There's a lot of other mechanics at play, but that should be enough for you to try and begin.
>>41982449going to try and commune with freya tonight. if i can catch her in my dreams then maybe i can get some insight, im getting tired and its been a really tough night
>>41982441>Religion is basically self-purification with the aid of higher than human powers. This self-purification is much like cleaning tarnished silver: removing the old deposits that hide its true and natural brightness. This process must be voluntarily chosen and cannot be performed without a deep and sincere effort to change one's behaviour in accordance with one's original bright nature. Thus this purification process may be looked upon as salvation in the sense of saving oneself with the aid of higher help. The conventional concept of being "saved" (found in both Eastern and Western conventional institutions) by a mere verbal affirmation or assertion, is obviously in the light of the above facts a patent deception if taught to others as a true doctrine, and an equally sad self-deception on the part of any who have given it their credibility.>Religion is thus the hardest work that one can do and it requires sustained practice until the margin of safety is reached, before which point one could easily slip back down a too easy slope into the tarnished, groping and half-blind state of ineffective and/or baleful behaviour.>–The Lion Path, 5th Edition
>>41982405i don't intend to sound reductionist with this, but i'd like to ask about your husband. you've found someone who truly loves the "you" inside you, regardless of the physical form you started with or the one you have nowbeing blunt, is the core of your restlessness specifically tied to the grief of not being able to have children with him? if that's the case, is it possible the 'poison' ins't actually your spirit form being incongruent with your body, but rather a deeper, painful conflict in how you perceive your own value?if the person who knows you best and loves you, maybe the writhing you feel isn't your soul trying to escape your body, but your mind struggling to accept a body that can't fulfill every dream you have for your marriage>>41982435the occult won't help you, anon. the world is very ugly, but in that ugliness is beauty, in spite of the flaws. you're clearly very passionate about the wrongs that surround you, but the best thing you can do, as useless as it may sound, is trying to see good in things, and doing what little you can where you can
>>41982467Good luck. Dream work can be tricky so I recommend persistence.
>>41982478>as useless as it may sound, is trying to see good in things, and doing what little you can where you canIt's sounds worse than useless anon, it sounds complicit.
>>41982478he does love me, and he tries really hard to help me shift away from my perspective on myself. maybe my pursuit is meaningless but what kind of wife would i be if i didnt try my best to be everything i want for him? we want to adopt soon but giving him his own blood, our own blood, would mean everything to us. and not in means to say we wouldnt love an adopted child as we would love a biological one, but there is definitely something deeper with merging our spirits and bringing life into this world. its a tough spot to be in.
>>41982441Without any confirmation...(religion and beliefs are either tools for population control in the hands of rulers or attempts to systematize and explain the world order around us based on previously accumulated experience, which, however, is already outdated... in theory, people themselves, given enough time, can understand the rules of morality and the logic of behavior, but usually it's not fun)>>41982405Are you from Switzerland or something? Look at the world, at the structure of society, the level of exploitation, hypocrisy, and suffering that is potentially available to everyone (you can be eaten, bombed, enslaved, and all sorts of other things) – and you want to condemn someone you care about to this?
>>41982515you must be from that other thread. we live in a good place away from all the bullshit. we want a family.
>>41982515>As the foregoing healing, cleansing and transfiguration continues, a time field goes ahead of you on the Lion Path and creates harmony before you. Compare the old Navajo chant: "May beauty precede and follow your steps and be present on your right and left, above you, below you and all around you. May you be clothed in beauty." We recall also Byron's lovely and significant line, "She walks in beauty." But on the Lion Path, if we persevere on it, we ourselves, like the Great Goddess, our Divine Mother, shall walk in beauty too.
>>41982478>The Occult won't help youWhy not? It seems to work wonders for the dark forces. I can't help but think part of why this world is so messed up is the forces of good never seek power, even if it means that evil will rule unopposed.
>>41982502i understand, anon. it's okay to want that, and it's not meaningless to want that, either, but i think you're putting a burden on yourself that your husband hasn't asked you to carry.>What kind of wife would I be if I didn't try my best to be everything I want for him?have you considered that 'being the best' for him might actually mean finding a way to be at peace with yourself?if he loves you for the (you) he already sees, then he probably would want a wife who is happy and present, not a wife who is constantly in agony, feeling like a failure because she can't perform the impossible. by focusing so much on the one thing you can't give him in a biological child, i fear you may be overlooking the fact that you've already given him the person he chose to marry.have you told him you feel this way? does he know that you feel like a failure as a wife because of this, or that you're looking into rituals and things to fundamentally change yourself? if he loves you as you say, he may truly be heartbroken to know that you think your form is something that needs to be fixed for him to truly love you>>41982496i won't soapbox on religious things too much, but the materialists will probably always rule the material. there's little one can do about that without playing into their game, effectively toppling the hierarchy only to replace it with yourself. it's 'what comes after,' that counts, beliefs aside.
>>41982546the christ pic hits harder than you even know. thank you for this. i think its time for me to go to bed
>>41982405GO NURTURE AND PROTECT LIFE THEN YOU ABSOLUTE FAGGOT. STOP ROMANTICIZING SOMETHING YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT. BIRTH FEELS LIKE FUCKING DYING TO A STOMACH VIRUS AND PERMANENTLY BREAKS YOUR BODY
>>41982529Are you sure of this? That you won't be affected not only by personal problems, but also by any global events that have been ruining the lives of many for generations? Why do you have this impression?If something can physically happen, it will happen; it's only a matter of chance. Lately, people have been creating the main problems for others themselves.From culture, to economics, to ordinary violence... Sure, losing your job for a couple of years is disgusting, but not like discovering a crater where your home once stood.
>>41982571i hope you find some peace somewhere too, geez
>>41982554don't mention it, fren. just remember that love is the strongest force in the universe, and as long as you hold it tight, it'll all be alright>>41982571there is no need for cruel words, anon.
>>41982546Oh so you are a Christian. That explains the self flagellation and masochistic acceptance of evil. Don't immanentize the eschaton and all that. If the elites start dieing of mysterious heart attacks just remember our conversation.
>>41982582I've ripped dead children out of my fucking body. Shut the fuck up about this desire to create life shit, YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR.You need to find a way to create something for and WITH your spouse. Maybe go adopt an animal you're BOTH invested in. I don't know. But you calling this a desire for the ability to create life is you fucking mislabeling whatever this thing you're dealing with is.
>>41982588put the book down mr. yagami, you don't need it.one star cannot light the whole night sky alone, but if you shine as best you can together with others, you can make beauty as bright as the dayi understand wanting to bring bloody justice upon the wicked, believe you me, but a spiral into the supernatural to try and achieve it won't help you. the wicked want you to obsess over them. there's nothing they hate more than someone who can be happy, in spite of it all>>41982607you didn't do anything wrong, anon. i'm sorry you went through that, though i can never know the same pain.
>>41982607seems like youve got some things you need to process too. i cant help you with that but i hope you find what youre looking for. raging at people on an anonymous forum really isnt it
I use youtube subliminals at the right volume they work right, there's gene editing ones female golden face ratio ones and fountain of youth binaural beats. I use the fountain of youth binaural beats a lot. c: hope that helps anon
>>41982624I hear you, and that is my point. The only reason anon dreams of this is because they've fantasized it. I used to be young. I used to think it was the most beautiful natural thing. It's not. It's disgusting, hurts like hell and will leave scars you can't fade or heal on your body and your heart. I cannot stand hearing people with no experience ache over this horrifying thing. Contend with the fact if you could have kids the GODDAMNED ELITE ARE GOING TO FARM THEM? No.And the fact you don't get the ability to create life without OTHERS BEING ABLE TO FORCE IT ON YOU? No. Yall cant contend with how fucking awful it is, actually.
>>41982624Go ahead make jokes. The thing you seem to not get is that Magick is real and is the only thing to have demonstrated it's power. Everything else whether it is Jesus, or Mohammad, or Buddha, or Krishna has shown itself to be an empty promise.
>>41982651Man being a feminist really sounds awful.
>>41982639Do you have a playlist? I want to find new music.
>>41982651you must understand anon. though the experience has left scars upon you, it is still an impossible dream for others. i'm not here to romanticize the pain you've lived through, nor tell you it wasn't as bad as you say. i believe you completely.but for op, that hell is a place they would give anything to stand in, just for the chance to hold what you lost. you are grieving the presence of a trauma, and they are grieving the trauma of an absence. neither of those pains cancels out the other>>41982653i have no doubt in there being something magical about the world that we don't understand, and probably never will. humans are capable of the infinite, i think.the problem i see is you trying to devote yourself to striking down evil, when doing so will very much blacken your heart to the very same level as those you despise.
>>41982709I think saying for certain anon knows what the fuck they're talking about is fucking stupid. Why can't the answer be that OP is the special kind of fucked up that fixates on unattainable shit because they're reinforcing a lifetime of trauma experiences of feeling like they "can't ever have what they want"?It's real easy to mislabel yourself when you HAVE NO EXPERIENCE and are delusional about that>>41982661It's just being a fuckin woman man. I'm more of a man than most of the men I know but that's alright. Because being ATTACHED TO YOUR GENDER IS GAY AND DUMB
>>41982740it very much could be that that is the case, but it's not easy as saying "you're traumatized," and leaving it at that. you can't change the past, you can only work with where you are now. it doesn't make the hole in their life any less real to them.
>>41982259Hi, I'm a biological woman, and my autism and bpd make me have transsexual desires. I see an attractive man and I WANT TO BE HIM, but nah, I'll never transition. It's just my autistic mind that makes me experience the attraction like that lol. Btw, this is me. >>41982829
>>41982259Focused intent. In bed at night. Visualize your perfect body as you're falling asleep. Feel your muscles relax to let your structure realign.Take active steps towards it. The body can only do so much with only thought, but add things that align with your goal. Eating better, stretching, yoga, gym, etc.I used this to become a body builder, yoga and all. Really slow down and feel every muscle, ligament, bone alignment, how they interact. Learn to feel all of it, then tell your body what to do to it.
>>41982259It’s not norse but you could try a blood sacrifice to Tezcatlipoca, he was the god of shapeshifters known as naguals. His own naguals Huehuecoyotl and Chalchiuhtotolin were considered to have the ability to change the fate of mortals and could be even better options. You’ll want to cut your own skin, collect the blood on paper, and then burn that bloody paper as an offering. Your calfs, earlobes, and penis are among recommended targets for the cutting because those are areas the Aztecs targeted when sacrificing their own blood. You may achieve better results with thorns or obsidian. Draw a picture of Cipactli and lay it face down beneath the bowl or plate you use to burn the blood offering. You might want to way for a day governed by Tezcatlipoca or his naguals, or a day considered auspicious for communing with the gods as recommended by this site: https://www.azteccalendar.com/Using this method I temporarily lost 80%+ of my ability to sleep, which is a supernatural result.
>>41982259Change your eye color. Then your hair color. Then your height. Then your age. Then your face. Then regrow your teeth.Then your body gender.How?Imagination+intent+focus+energy manipulation+belief+state skin to sleep+moon phase. It's a strong cocktail. All the ingredients are necessary to some extent but quantities vary from person to person Good luck. Post results here of step 1 and 2. Then keep it to yourself and never breathe a word. Ultimately this whole ordeal is futile even when it works.
>>41983793Aren't Tezcat and his naguals generally hostile to people in the myths? Maybe you're losing sleep cause you blood pacted with an old god.https://youtu.be/mQIZ-Esbg_c
>>41983793Tell me if you try this method, I am curious to see if it's repeatable.
>>41982740>unattainableI bet you are the type to cry and shit yourself whenever you see something about gene editing or cloning in the news lmao. Nothing you can think of is "unattainable"
