what are the spiritual consequences of leaving everything behind and becoming a homeless wanderer with only the most necessary equipment
>>41984878Regret
>>41984878I have sent my heartlong sinceinto the mountainsyet still this bodystays on in the sad world–Saigyō
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>>41984951You don’t think it’s possible to make a choice without regret?
>>41984878I think you would need a solid spiritual foundation to make the most of it. As in, a decent understanding of how the spiritual world works and of God. Otherwise I imagine you'd just go crazy or feel lonely
>>41984878being a bum and being lumped in with other bums and homeless people when you actually need help or resources
The West is cruel, they hate the poor
Preddy good
>>41984968It really isn't. Unless you take a policy of purposeful ignorance, regret is inevitable.
>>41984968regret is just misunderstanding the way that things arethe concept of regret is a poison, you should take revenge on whoever planted it in your mind
>>41985368Verifiably false. I’ve made many decisions in my life that I don’t regret>>41985383I don’t think that’s always the case. Regret exists and we use it to teach ourselves a lesson. It can be poisonous just as too much water can be poisonous. But taken in its correct form it helps us in the long run.
>>41985368Ignorance serve a purpose sometimes. What is the alternative? A policy of purposeful indecisiveness? Mourning the loss of every opportunity? We have options in life and often their consequences aren’t clear. We make decisions the best we can and move on. If you find yourself with constant regret, that could be a sign you are not acting in alignment with yourself. In OPs case, moving into isolation will almost certainly be proceeded by regret. Humans are social animals and denying that part of yourself is harmful ignorance.
>spiritual consequences+actual hobos (different from urban homeless) are deeply spiritual and zen folk generally+disconnect from spiritual miasma from city folk and country bumpkins alike+focus on the essentials, likely unable to use any distractions consistently+ability to spend most/all of your time in nature+unable to eat shitty junk food; spiritual endeavor in obtaining your own ingredients and preparing your own meals-unable to seek advice from someone who might actually be knowledgeable-the worst kind of spiritual miasma if you hang around the urban homeless-everyone will assume you're urban homeless if you ever need anything like >>41985062 said-even if you do convince people you're different, you're still gonna come off as weird and bored people will do everything they can to fuck with you because they're boredAll of the minuses are absolutely terrible for your spirituality and general wellbeing. I don't know what gave you the impression that the average urban homeless person has any degree of spirituality, but they are the final product of urbanization. Extremely few true hobos exist today. There is a reason that even those that dedicate their lives to their religion still live in monasteries.
I don't think you will accomplish jack with that sort of method.
>>41987495Even most actual hobos (as in freight hopping wanderers) are either degenerate troon anarchist trustfund morons or fent/meth/booze addicts. Usually a combination of both.
is there even a tradition/practice that's purely based on wandering or ist only an extension of one?
>>41984878At worst, a cope in order to feel like one is doing anything useful toward Spirituality.At best, an abolishing of distractions and single focused purpose toward attaining some realization. But it is not essential. I solved reality while just chilling and doing philosophy with the Vertiginous Question. Now I'm fully enlightened.
>>41988768>Vertiginous Questionbuy an ad->he already bought the ad
I’m gonna be real I think for like 99.99% of people the path of renunciation is not actually conducive to any meaningful spiritual growth. You really think we have this entire planet, possibly realm, that we’re on for whatever reason, and the way to become more “enlightened” is to go “hmmm… no!” and to sit around and do nothing for the rest of your life? Strive for the golden mean. Being too invested in either the material OR the spiritual world is unhealthy. IMO if you can’t navigate the “real world” while still maintaining your spirituality, it’s probably an issue. I’ve met monks and some of them are more neurotic than you’d ever believe. IMHO you’d know if your dharma is to become a monk or whatever, this wouldn’t really be a question in that case.
>>41987495Bump.>>41988759Yes, Freemasonry originally honored vagrants and travelers in the guise of Diogenes. Hermetic religions for Hermes.
as if people would let you enjoy it just like that.
>>41989078>You really think we have this entire planet, possibly realm, that we’re on for whatever reason>for whatever reasonThe reason is we went "I want to be the central enjoyer" and God gave it to us, with the stipulation that it is temporary (cuz we ARENT) and thus will cause suffering.The way OUT of that suffering is indeed to look around at all the ways you can pretend to be God and enjoy existence as if it was yours, and go "Nope! I'm done with this delusion of separation.">Strive for the golden mean.Well that is where religions come from, and they are decent for the vast majority of normies.>if you can’t navigate the “real world”Asceticism IS the topmost navigation of the material. Indulgence and regulation is basically a methadone clinic.I think people should be eager for pure eternal existence and joy, and that involves being bold, and taking risks.Besides, you can always go look up what the consequence of "failing" such a thing is, and see if it's worth trying.
>>41984878difficult to make spiritual progress if malnourishedthe body must be well cultivated too
>>41988759Dunno if you could call it pure wandering, but I think there was a Japanese shamanistic practice in which a shaman would spend their life in pilgrimage to commune with geographic divinities. Also, pilgrimage in general. Also, service-based spiritual traditions, not limited to shamanism, would sometimes have the adept wandering around the world to serve where needed. Wandering and wanderlust could indicate and serve as an entry point to a higher spiritual calling.
